Sim2, manufacturer of high-end home theater projectors is set to launch a new HD disc which it claims is "Better than Blu", a reference to the industry-backed Blu-ray Disc.
Consumers just went through a format war... I really dont think we are ready for another one. Unless this disc has superfast read times and way bigger than blu - nice try.
There nto gonna suceed. Its too late !
The world is blu.
they can get MS into this format and the 720 instead of using blueray can use this! thats the only way the have any chance of taking over from BR
Yeah seriously, if Blu-ray is slowly but surely catching on to consumers, how long will something "better than blu" take? And at what price? If this even became a competition between the 2 formats, Sony might even cut prices on Blu-ray. All this would do is make people adopt Blu-ray even faster, so bring it on Sim2, but you can't stop the inevitable.
A dual layer, double sided DVD toping out at 16gig has a higher / better resolution than a blu-Ray disc? Have they not learned that compression = loss of quality? HD-DVD was the best shot against BD yet even they lost out because of lack of storage space. Yeah, this is not going very far...
The Industry just went through a format war (as someone above stated) and are not going to want to play it out all over again. That's great that they have this new superior tech. Maybe some major studios release a movie here or there on it but the majority of movies will be Blu-ray and DVD. Any more than that would be over saturation of the market and no good for consumers, distributors, or retailers.
hey maybe they use dvd as the standard drive on the 720 (compression will be great in 2010), license the sims2 tech for a 720 add-on, and then tell the customers "sure baby, I'll call you" This will probably happen just after they tell 360 owners that they will no longer support the 360.
"...for $40 USD and on double-sided dual-layer DVDs with a capacity of just over 16GB" BWAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!
This is stupid. even if there format was superior to blu-ray in every way (which i doubt), with no one in the industry backing them they wont sell a single disc. The format war is over, blu-ray won, the only chance of making money on a highdef disc now is to back blu-ray. Thats just how it is.
I know I’m stepping in the lion’s den with this comment but I’ll try to shed a little light on this. Yes we just went through a format war. The problem is while BLU RAY delivers enough space for high res 1080p movies, it doesn’t offer enough space for backing up Terabyte data storages. I know everyone is saying BLU RAY is the format because the movie industry is aboard but it doesn't meet data backup storage needs of the computer side of the house and at the rate in which games sizes are growing I don't think BLU ray will keep up with demands for next generation gaming consoles. If BLU RAY doesn't make a dent in DVD sales in the next year expect it to be another failed Sony format.
They state "better than 1080p" without actual numbers...and most televisions are only capable of 1080p (if even that) which means you won't get "better than 1080p" anyways...FAIL!
I was just about to say the same thing and what is making Blu-ray disc becoming main stream is that most people don't have 1080p televisions. Not only that 1080p is the highest television stations don't even run that high only 720p/i or even 1080i the most.
Blu-Ray has just really started, let's forget about trying to kill it off and just get as many movies released on it as possible. I just bought Batman Begins on BD for the Dark Knight prologue feature and as far as i'm concerned it's picture perfect.
RIIIGHT.. better than 1080p.. Ok great.. Now if they sold a TV commerically that is better than 1080p awesome.. Oh wait they dont.. only like 30% of people own a 1080p TV.. and your talking passed 1080p.. One step at a time people.. HD Age just began.. Obviously 1080p isnt the ceiling but we arent even in full HD swing yet.. This annoucment would have been great like 7 years from now
like hd-dvd was better than BD too. LOOOL I know somehow someday BD will be beat but, not today and not tomorrow. Maybe, with good odds, in 6/7 years, again, maybe.
I thought Hd DVD was better.......well at least for the in-movie features that bluray is just starting to add.
HD-DVD is better. Why? You can play HD-DVDs in your *EXISTING* DVD player -- how many HUNDREDS of MILLIONS of DVD players are there? You can use HD-DVD players as upscale DVD players. HD-DVD was cheaper to produce. Q) The reason HD-DVD is gone from the market? A) Sony paid its MPAA / RIAA partners to stop supporting it. End of story.
Aeh, no, you cannot play HD-DVDs in your DVD player. You can play a HD-DVD/DVD combo disk in your DVD player, though. Not a lot HD-DVDs come with a DVD side, though (or should I have said, "came"). Well, and yes, you can use an upscaling DVD player to scale DVD to HD/1080p, and you can use any BD player to do the same. And, I have a motivation to get another PS3 for my bedroom :0, and and argument which even my wife would understand, lol. And sure, Sony was a driving force to make BD a success, and the PS3. MS/Toshiba had their chance. They could have put an HD-DVD player into the XBox. But noooh, they did not. Game over. Get over it. Then we would have said, MS paid them off to establish HD-DVD. BTW. MS tried to bribe the studios into HD-DVD by selling them exclusive contracts to DD when they sign up for HD-DVD. Haven't heard that from Sony (or the BD group). Ah, what I forgot. To be on topic. $40 a movie ? That's even more then BD now. WTH.
Yeah HD-DVD was soooooooooo better. That's why it's only capable of half the bit rate of Blu-Ray's. And not to mention, some movies weren't even capable of TrueHD sound like Transformers.
Looks like Ju stepped in before me. I was just about to say the same thing *laughs*.
You all know who is behind this...microsoft and toshiba...they are still very bitter from losing big in the last format war. They lost so hard, that all they can do now is post viral information against bluray...when they know bluray will big super big starting now.
why would Microsoft be bitter? Do they not have a hand in bluray as well?
i didnt know microsoft had a hand in bluray thats news to me
until somebody else had mentioned it int he past...then I found, "The Blu-ray Disc Association and Microsoft Corp. have agreed to include the VC-1 advanced compression video codec, the proposed SMPTE standard based on Windows Media ® Video 9, as a mandatory codec in Blu-ray Discs BD-ROM specification for video playback equipment.:
There are some genius people out there and then you have those working at sim2...
What makes me wonder. It looks like inventing a new format every other day seams to be cheaper then simply paying BD royalties. hm. So some people think. But then the disk costs $40 bucks.
Blu-Ray is here to stay, let it go. HD-DVD lost and now you're mad. Like it or not, the future is Blu...
within 2 years time In Japan and europe in <1.5 years time In Japan BD might overtake DVD this year
What's this have to do with HD-DVD?
"What's this have to do with HD-DVD?" nothing. nothing at all. why it was brought up should be questioned.
These people need to let it go...
[[if a 200 Billion dollar company failed,lets see you win]]
oh god, Just stop, ok, stop it. People have been through a Format War, it was the reason why HD pententration hasnt happened yet and its about to by the end of this year,why are they attempting to delay that?
LMFAO ils this what bill gates is doing with his spare time? wooing companies into trying to overtake blu ray?
ps3 sucks sooooo much, its not even funny, in fact its quite serious
I think so. Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha. Blu ray is here to stay. Get over it you hddvd luvin mother farker.
This doesn't have anything to do with the PS3 you dumbf*ck.
with jewkin mb this format will be implemented in the 720
Is that so? And f*ck off. Jewkin? Does it make you cooler like the other dumbass bots here to call me jewkin?
girl take it easy you need to get laid
Don't tell me to take it easy when you're probably the fifth dumbass to use that. What is this 'follow the leader'?
I don't get it 360 fanboys, why so many personal attack/insult against juuken. A lot of you sound like 12 years old (if not physically, than mentally). Anyway, if this company wants to lose money, be my guest but I'm buying Blu-ray. (Can't wait for Wall-e)
video games and srsly i have no idea why you ppl take these insults seriously guys plz help out in the bublez ty
If you didn't hear the other bots use that word StrikingDMC, you wouldn't have used it. I'm trying not to use too many insults in my comments these days so maybe you and the bots should do the same. EDIT: Agreed.
ok lets try not to insult each other k?
“This high-def alternative is bull; it’s all about Blu-ray,” one industry source told Video Business. “They’re grasping at straws. The entire industry is all behind Blu-ray.”
Yeah because this company has more industry power to launch a format than Toshiba did... I'll look forward to seeing these on the shelves next to the Triple Layer HD-DVDs....
POG, Bladestar and the likes will support this format... :)
I liked Fatman with eggface better, Whoooop.
If you think people are gonna keep buying new formats every two seconds then dream on dream on.
wait couldn't a normal dvd disc have the ability to hold 1080p videos? but the problem being space hence blu-ray. THis technology that they are talking about is going to hold a movie on a dvd disc that is dual layered and 16GB in total somehow, okay so really whatever resoultion they are talking about could also be held in blu-ray with more features too. As its really 16GB of their DVD(modded and dual layered) vs 50 GB of Blu-ray(dual layered). Hm i say this is pointless because to even buy one movie would be 40 bucks. EDIT: sorry if this makes no sense
These companies are just wasting time, money and resources to fight something that just doesn't make sense. Better than 1080p? Show me a TV that is higher than 1080p and is consumer friendly. You can persuade the average joe to trade in his 92 toyota for an 08 Lexus but you'll have a harder time persuading him to trade in his 08 Lexus for another 08 Lexus that's just been made a month later and shinier. Unless these discs are 200gb capacity, incredible seek speeds and is coated in diamonds so it can never scratch and has a data retaining capabilities to survive 100,000 years after a nuclear war they might as well just call it a day and do something else for a few years. Like make sock puppets or something..
But they just want to sell you a Lexus for a (smaller) Lexus, and say its cheaper, but then charge you more. How's that gonna work ?
Blu-Ray has this generation. Some people just need to accept it. Learn from Toshiba.
I wonder how they will convince the entire cinema industry to use their new format.
Who said this format is trying to take over blu-ray?? It just says its better than blu-ray.. =P I assume it could be some uber high-end disc for AV-enthusiasts so they could watch Fifth Element on 2450p on their fancy projectors and 8.3 surround sound systems.. The company makes high end projectors so it all makes sense.. not.
its way to late for these guys, they must have money to waste. plus i never heard of them. an dif i never heard of them, then the average consumer will go with Sony over them.
Good luck marketing that and taking any market share away from Sony and the Blu-Ray Disc Association.
lol i dont see this going anywhere, its just too soon for another format.
Give it up. I know denial is a b!tch, but Bluray is here and it's going to last. Millions of PS3's on the market and it beating HDDVD to a pulp is going to be proof on that. Just as the PS2 helped push DVD's, the PS3 with it's trojan horse of a Bluray player will keep it on the market. Oh and anyone remember when DVD's came out and there were these other fringe formats trying to get a foot in the door on the market? I think one was DivX even or something close.. Just stupid. Unless MS works with them and makes another add-on player *guffaw*.
This is why I'm not buying Blu-ray, it's just not going to last. Why waste your money. A better format is just around the corner!
..but the thing is this ISN'T a better format lmao. Did you read the article? "$40 USD and on double-sided dual-layer DVDs with a capacity of just over 16GB. " Even more expensive than Blu-ray currently is (19$-35$) and less storage, and no actual proof of higher than 1080p resolution, not that any TVs or projectors are being commercially manufactured and affordable beyond 1080p anyway! What a joke, lets hope this is fake or it's likely to put Sim2 out of business. The technology industry as whole relies on slow release of formats and hardware to the general public. This is how they PROFIT. They could surely be making 2TB discs at resolutions far exceeding 1080p for TVs that are rediculously thin and the size of walls however they don't. It's simple technology bisuness economics 101. Stagger the products. EDIT: For those who disagree, please, speak up and let me know where I made any errors.
I don't understand people that say "I am waiting because the next best format is just around the corner". Ok that fine and all, but technically that means you will never buy into any format. It's like saying "Im not buying into VHS, there is something bigger and better around the corner", or "Im not buying into this DVD fad. There will be something better very soon". You will be forever waiting. It's the nature of storage media to constantly evlolve. If you are just to proud to support something Sony created... ok that's fine. It's silly not to go with Blu now that HD-DVD is no longer in the picture. Bah... just my .02
With that logic, you probably wont be experiencing any new format at all. Same thing applies to everything. Why get the 2009 GTR R35 when a new GTR is already in the making? Its a risk but, you need to pay to play.
Will Sony have to open up its bank account and pay its MPAA / RIAA partners to not support this format? Just like it did with HD-DVD? I expect they will, and this little firm may end up with an excellent RICO case against the MPAA/RIAA and Sony.
...the rest of the Blu-ray Disc Association will only worry about what kind of jokes they need to make for a format that will FAIL before it reaches consumers.
Way too late, no studio support, no industry support. Epic Fail right out of the gate.
Blue Ray is industry backed. No matter how good something is if its not industry backed than it will FAIL. Companies already committed to blue ray and it will cost them too much to change now. Sony won end of story all you companies move on and wait another 10 years before you decide to show off your next idea.