Project Scorpio Will Make 2017 Microsoft's Year, Phil Spencer Hopes

Xbox Executive Phil Spencer Talks Scorpio, addresses fans about the company's response to competition by saying nothing has changed.

[Hoffmann]

He is such a great guy, I wish it to the xbox audience that he can do some good stuff for you guys next year.

Maybe a new Battletoads game that will also be on PC?

[Gazondaily]

I like Spencer but:

"We build our Xbox plans for Xbox customers, not in response to others"

Not exactly true is it? The Scorpio is almost a response to the PS4 and the struggle MS had in terms of power. Obviously the PS4 was also designed in response to the 360 so it is all swings and roundabouts.

I do think MS need to respond to the competition, particularly as far as exclusives go. MS need more titles and the strong PSX 2016 showing just hammered that point even more. Yes many of those games will be years in the making on playstation but they are there. MS need to get off their backsides.

Scorpio however will be beastly. I'm interested in how it will handle VR. Also that price point!

[Christopher]

This echoes Mattrick a bit when he said the PS4 wasn't a competitor. I think they know that's not true, they just want to send a message that they aren't always reacting to the competition and instead try to do things a bit differently when possible. The problem is that's been great in the past, but this generation their new stuff has been extremely slow to come (cloud, dx12, etc.).

[Lennoxb63]

I wouldn't say it's totally a response to the Pro. Their decision to put their games on PC is a clear indication that they were looking for fast, easy porting and backward/forward compatibility. This was done long before the announcement of the pro and was likely done to take the work out of porting to future consoles.

[blitz0623]

Hardware is good, but where are the games?

[ShottyatLaw]

Very true. Let's hope they learned that launching a weaker spec'd machine at a higher price than their competition is the wrong way to launch a system.

I'm being cautiously optimistic about the Scorpio. Since Spencer took over, they're clearly moving in the right direction as a division, and I'm curious about what he brings to the table as they have a real opportunity here. He's smart enough to know the price point required to see success.

I'll give them credit, though. Based on what we know, 2017 is shaping to bring the most diversity in their 1st party efforts we've seen in a long, long time. Their line up next year includes an RTS, a pirate-themed MMO, an action RPG, an open world zombie survival game, remasters of uncharacteristic Xbox classics like Voodoo Vince and Phantom Dust, and an open world action game. I hope this is a sign of Spencer's influence on the games getting green lit over there. Let's see if they're smart enough to fully take advantage of the Scorpio as a launching point.

As for the "Article," the whole thing is based on an innocuous reply tweet to some fans talking about E3 in general. It's not about Scorpio or how it will "make 2017 Microsoft's year." 2017 could potentially be really good for Xbox if they play their cards right. That's still not a reason to stretch this tweet into a ridiculous article.

Here is the tweet: "Looking forward to E3. We build our Xbox plans for Xbox customers, not in response to others. I think 2017 will be a good year."

I hope they treat it like a proper console launch.

[bouzebbal]

how can it make MS year when it is coming out in the end of it?? Can anyone please explain?

[Godmars290]

@bouzebbal:
MS double speak. The Xbox division may be aware if it's shortcomings, but whether or MS will them to act upon them will be another matter.

[IamTylerDurden1]

You're dead wrong on PS4 being a response to 360.

PS4 was a direct response to the PS3, the cell processor, and the price point.

The PS3 was a beautifully designed, intricate, and elegant machine loaded with expensive features. However, the cell processor made it very difficult for developers early on and the jam packed features inflated the price point. The PS3 was wildly ambitious, just pop open an OG DS3 and pop open a 360 controller and take a look inside. Sony was attempting to one up the most successful console of all-time (PS2) and by doing so they in a sense overreached. PS3 was almost ahead of its time and too ambitious, it too proprietary as well.

This directly influenced the development of the PS4. This is why Sony switched to the x86 architecture and this is why Sony built the PS4 through developer feedback. It was a very involved process, even the DS4 was an iterative process that was shaped by developers like Sucker Punch. Also, the low price point was a direct response to the PS3, and palatable price points have been at the forefront of Sony's push this generation. From the PS4, to PSVR, to the PS4 Pro they have all had very consumer friendly launch prices. Sony also realized from the PS3 just how little backwards compatibility affected sales and that a low price point was a far more effective sales strategy.

The PS3 shaped the PS4, not xbox 360.

darthv72,

It had less to do with 360 being simple to develop for and more to do with the PS3 being difficult to develop for. Sony had a team (ICE) that helped devs to figure out the cell processor and how to properly use it, and ppl still had trouble. The PS4's configuration is a direct result of the PS3. They asked devs what they wanted when building PS4 specifically bc the PS3 was such hassle to develop for.

Septic,

You're wrong. The PS3 was incredibly efficient after ppl finally figured it out. The level of quality squeezed out by Naughty Dog and Santa Monica was nothing short of amazing. Early on it wasn't efficient bc ppl didn't understand it, but in the end it created magic. Look at the last few uneventful years of the 360 and then look at what the PS3 produced in that same time. Look at the most impressive/most technically impressive games of last gen. Uncharted 2, Uncharted 3, TLoU, God of War III. Those were arguably the 4 best games of the generation (MGS4 and Gears 1 were great as well) and unarguably the 4 most technically/visually impressive games. Say what you will about ram but 360 just didn't have the guts to create the same level of technical greatness in the 2nd half of its life. I do remember having to swap out discs half way through games due to the lack of blu ray in the 360. I also was left holding a useless HD dvd player bc of that lack of blu ray. So each had their own deficiencies. I remember King Kong came with the HD dvd add on.

[darthv72]

@tyler... "This is why Sony switched to the x86 architecture and this is why Sony built the PS4 through developer feedback."

Feedback like... 'Please don't make your next system as difficult to develop for like the PS3. You need to make it easy like the 360.' (paraphrasing)

Seriously though, it is not uncommon for companies to take ideas from each other as a means to try and improve their product. There is no rule that said each system has to be radically different. That kind of choice is on the platform holder and what sort of vision they have for the product over time.

Sony focused solely on graphics power where as MS went with a more rounded approach and yet both are within the same realm of specs and performance with the nod to Sony.

[Gazondaily]

@iamtyler

"The PS3 was a beautifully designed, intricate, and elegant machine loaded with expensive features"

That's a nice way of saying it was an inefficient, pain in the backside to develop for console with a bluray drive and not enough ram to accommodate basic features like party chat.

[zaherdab]

"Xbox Consumers" And "Playstation consumers" are one and the same... many jumped ship from xbox 360 to ps4 becoz of what the ps4 was offering hence the ps4 is selling way better than xbox one this generation.

It's all about the marketshare and how much they make it worthwhile for third parties to develop for their system. Nintendo made the mistake of catering to "Nintendo audience" and thas what they got exactly with Wii U their hardcore fan base and a niche market that drove 3rd parties away.

Scorpio is playing the performance game and in the end it's what will drive consumption, bigger and more powerful make it easier for third parties to develop without focusing too much on optimizing and more appealing for consumers to buy obviously. i am playing more backward compatible games on my xbox one s ( majority of the exclusives are 360 games ) while i tend to buy mutiplatform on the ps4 pro simply because this is where they look better.

[IamTylerDurden1]

MS has responded to the competition over and over this gen. Many of their major decisions have been direct responses to Sony, Phil is full of it.

Dropping Kinect in order to squeeze out more power and jump from 720p to 900p was a response to the PS4 running games at 1080p.

Scorpio was a response to PS4 being more powerful and likely a response to when they first heard whispers of PS4 Pro. If it wasn't, it wouldn't be releasing a year later. This is the absolute fastest they can get the thing out.

The Tomb Raider deal was a direct response to Sony being scheduled to release Uncharted 4 in holiday of 2015. Even Ryse and Sunset may have been influenced by GoW and Insomniac's relationship with Sony. Elite may have even been a response to the early NMS hype.

Xbox getting involved in VR is obviously a response to Sony, Oculus, and Vive, but most of all...Sony. MS is contracting out for the VR HMDs but my goodness that design is ripoff of PSVR. No other company had used anything similar to Sony's intuitive forehead resting, "crown" design until these two xbox VR headsets were shown.

[Muzikguy]

I'm curious how a console released at the end of the year, would make it their year. Should be more like 2018. I know I'm probably reading too much into the stuff, but with PR you have to.

[lastking95]

You're in for a surprise

[XanderZane]

The Beast is coming. I would love to see a new Battletoads game as well as another MechAssault, Links, Crimson Skies, Lost Odyssey 2, and some new sports games. They really need their own Baseball, Golf, Football and Basketball games. They definitely need a lot more games and new IP's. Phil should reconsider having XBox exclusives that aren't on the PC. Should be interesting to see how many Win10 PC games get transferred to the Scorpio in it's first year.

[SpaceRanger]

I've said it once and I'll say it again:

Scorpio will no doubt be a beast...but if there are only a handful of exclusive games next year, then it will not be as successful as it can be. MS has new IPs, but their fanbase (who doesn't normally frequent these sites) have a set taste for games (fps, tps, and sport games). They need more diversity to go up against Sony and Nintendo's switch next year.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

I definitely agree that's the reality of it.

[UltraNova]

It seems we all agree on this one.

First we need to see what is Scorpio to MS and by that i mean is it their Pro or XB2? Then we need to see what's up their sleeve- maybe they are planning to announce a couple new AAA launch games along with Crackdown and a new Forza ...maybe some Halo 5 SP DLC ?

I cant for the love of GOD beleive that they dont have at least all those things lined up for Scorpio's launch.

Plus, a price of 400 maybe 450 bucks max would help them get serious traction.

But lets not forget that they wont be alone next year...Sony and their AAA onslaught and a potential Pro price cut can seriously dampen Scorpios thunder and we dont even know what Nintendo has in store for us with the Switch.

One thing's for sure regarding 2017 and beyond- we, the gamers need to get a second job.

[Finch]

@UltraNova

I am just going to start saving now and forget the second job. LOL

[Lennoxb63]

Xbox gamers play way more games than just fps, tps, and sports games. Were we not the ones who made some indie studios famous last gen? Inside (which released this gen) for example sold a million in a week before it even went to PC. Xbox gamers like variety. But we don't like variety resulting in a decrease of quality. Which is what variety brings more often than not.

Not to mention the free to play games like Neverwinter and Smite which are also very popular on Xbox.

@ninsigma
More times than not variety brings a decrease in quality because these things are either new or unorthodox.

@P_Bomb
I just explained it to @ninsigma. I'm not saying that variety isn't good. But a lot of times variety ends up being undercooked because it's not a tried and true formula. You have those games that break the mold every now and then of course.

[ninsigma]

No, variety does not bring a decrease in quality. I think you're thinking of large quantity.

[P_Bomb]

How is variety a decrease in quality? It's not one developer being stretched thin here, but several developers merely being allowed to do what they wanna do. One doesn't affect the other.

[DJustinUNCHAIND]

People have been covering up bad games under the guise of variety for a while.

[P_Bomb]

@DJ
Such as? What specifically's been covered up under the guise of variety? Bad games happen to every genre, from point'n'clicks to shooters.

[nitus10]

Neverwinter (MMORPG) and Smite (Multiplayer online battle arena) which are free to play are also on the PS4 and have been for quite some time.

While I can't speak about Smite I do know Neverwinter heavily pushes microtransactions although they so far have not pushed pay to win. You can easily get to level 10 within a few hours without any need to purchase anything and by yourself. You can grind if you wish but the quest system is fair and IMHO quite interesting allowing you to level reasonably quickly.

Between levels 12 to 16 you can get an NPC companion and a horse, both of which are free. Both horse(s) and companion(s) can be upgraded although whether you spend real money or just use in-game money (not all that difficult to get) is up to you. A good player need not spend anything while a poor or inpatient player (can also be someone who wishes to stand out) could spend hundreds of real world dollars on what effectively is fluff.

Personally, I found the game to be quite good although I find that on occasion I do get lag (most likely from my end) which can be offputting especially when you are fighting higher level monsters such as dragons, demons, etc with many other players. The longest I have waited to enter a dungeon with a random party (3 to 5) is two minutes although this depends on how many players are on-line. Dungeons are an excellent way of farming wealth although don't expect allot of help from random players. Guilds are worth joining or creating if you have a lot of online friends playing the game and you can adopt a more tactical approach to all quests.

[lastking95]

PREACH!

[UCForce]

@ninsigma is right about this. Everyone have different flavor. Variety is important.

[trooper_]

Play more games than first person shooters? Name some good games that don't involve killer Instinct and Forza.

[Christopher]

I enjoy seeing people supporting one side or another as if either side stands for greater quality or diversity.

Facts are:
* Both consoles have great games
* Both consoles have shitty games
* Both consoles provide a lot of options, some more than others in specific genres
* Players of all types who want something specific will get it on the platform that supports and oftentimes they own both platforms in order to have a full selection of games from which to choose

All this BS "Sony is about diversity" and "Xbox One is about quality over quantity" is just that, BS you tell yourselves to continue these stupid debates. Sony having more games doesn't mean they have more options of value nor does Microsoft having fewer games mean they have better quality.

Each system has its games, no one system is better than the other unless it comes to tastes, which are always subjective and nothing else. Any person who wants to experience all they can will support both systems because they both deserve our support.

[PFFT]

That they do. There is so much Halo and Gears can do for them. Hopefully MS can bring us more first party titles.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

PS4 became the default platform for multiplatform games (which sale more than 99% of exclusives) because it performed better than the Xbox and was $100 cheaper. Diversity is just icing on the cake.

[babadivad]

What's really going on is, the people who bought 360s last gen bought PS4s this gen.

These are the consumers who actually buy games. It's the reason the attach rate was so high on 360. The hand full of fanboys on this site are just cheerleaders.

Those consumers buy what's the best. 360 was the better buy last gen(especially early on), the PS4 was the better buy this gen. They're the consumers that drive the industry.

Microsoft needs more first party diversity. Like they did in the beginning of the 360 era. They were on fire then. They have culled too many good studios.

And they let EA buy bioware. Effectively letting the best new IP (Mass Effect)from last gen go multi-plat. Sony would have NEVER let that happen.

If Sony didn't buy them, they would've had a 2nd party studio relationship.

They need to try to get some of that back. At least it seems like they are trying again.

The backbone of Sony's business is PlayStation. And it shows. They give studios time for a game to come together.

Microsoft is starting to get their shit together. They are hungry again. And that's only good for gamers.

Besides Recore, the only thing I have been turning my X1 on for is BC games. BC is saving X1 right now.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

Cost and better performing multiplats. Xbox launched first at $400 and had better performance than the $600 PS3 that you needed a second job to get.

[extermin8or]

This isn't correct the fact the ps3 sales equalled the 360 in the end. With a year less in the clock and alot more xbox resales to replace faulty hardware.

[christocolus]

Can't wait for Scorpios reveal. I hope they keep the design similar to that of the Xbox One S.

[XXanderXX]

Was thinking the other day , wonder what Scorpio will look like.
You think it will look like the S or maybe a bit different so its distinguishable from the S .

[mcstorm]

I think it will be along the lines of the s but with an extra look to tell them apart like the elite controller I also think it will be called Xbox one elite to. I'm probably way off but going off what doing that's what ide expect.

[kraenk12]

It's gonna be much bigger obviously.

[lastking95]

Take the S.....make it black.......add a big X light up logo on the top left side. Call it day

[GrubsterBeater]

How creative...

[i3eyond the Circle]

I think if Microsoft can't get any and all PC games compatible with Scorpio that's a feat in itself. It'd be the only console with that many games

[Christopher]

Not likely to happen for 'all PC games' but can definitely see it for any PC game on the Windows Store. Especially anything that's using DX12 and UWP.

[TKCMuzzer]

What would be the point of the Scorpio? May as well just stick Xbox Live on a PC and let the Xbox Fans transfer over.
MS have been banging on about the Scorpio for months now and it's still 10 odd months away, yet its nearest competitor continues to announce new games for next year, the year after, for next month and so on.
The clues to success are staring them in the face and have been for some time.

[mcstorm]

People don't want to game on pc that's why we have consoles but bringing a plug and play pc to the market so to speak could be good for Microsoft. I think windows 10 will have a lot of say with the new console and I like them keeping things close just like Nintendo have done with the switch.

[i3eyond the Circle]

See that's what I don't understands.

Xbox has 2 'new IPs Scalebound and Sea of Thieves and multiple established heavy hitters Crackdown 3, Halo Wars 2 with the inevitable Forza and the most powerful console dropping 2017. Besides Horizon and Detroit....Xbox to me is looking much more appealing 2017.

So when people say they need to take notes on games I don't see where there logic comes from..

Are we simply assuming Microsoft is not going to announce anything again ever in the future? They get judged as if there will be ZERO games in the works during 2019 when those awesome PlayStation games will all finally be on shelves...and even that's a maybe.

Edit@ Below... Of course not. I just don't think those games are releasing 2017.

[kraenk12]

@i3

So you're just going to pretend Days Gone and God Of War don't exist?!

[MRMagoo123]

😂 says "heavy hitters" then lists halo wars and crackdown 😂

[lastking95]

Console exclusives, console gaming, low cost gaming entry point, game space.

What "NEW" games the competition annouce recently that we didnt already know about since the first half of 2016 ?

[mkis007]

circle

You mentioned inevitable Forza but didn't mention inevitable MLB the Show? You also forgot about Gran Tourismo Sport and Ace Combat 7. Aside from those omissions. Sea of thieves (xb1), Detroit(ps4), and Crackdown(xb1) don't have hard release dates yet. Just as Days Gone/god of war/ spider man/ Dreams don't have dates either. Dreams is due for release and I think there is a good chance at one of those others making it too.

Plus the other games sony has announced within the last year that we haven't heard again like Wild.

[XXanderXX]

It will make my day and complete my year , cause am ready for my unit .

2017 E3 reveal & holiday 2017 release and 2017 is 18 days out . what a great year it will be can't wait so much fun inbound

[TKCMuzzer]

Do you not use your Xbox One? Your desperation for the next MS console says more about the current state of that console than anything else.
Do People even no why they want the Scorpio?

[jmetalhead77812]

I got the XB1 and used it a ton. Got the XB1 S, because it was a better version and went with my 4K TV. I'm going to get the Scorpio because it's going to be a bad ass console that plays my favorite games. I know that's super difficult to grasp.

[Muzikguy]

Cuz moe powah!!

Jk, I really don't know. Valid point though on the current system. I'm sure plenty want the Scorpio, just like plenty want the next system from Sony too

[XXanderXX]

I use both my Xbox one & S , it not desperation its me being a consumer , supporter and wanting what I want.

[ShottyatLaw]

I've used my X1 since 2013 just as much as I've enjoyed using my PS4. People were/are just as excited to get a Pro, and I don't see anything "desperate" about that either.

I like the high-end graphics of my PC, but as someone who spends 40+ hours a week sitting in front of one, I don't always want to spend my free time on a PC, too. That's why I'm interested in the Scorpio.

[bluefox755]

I wanted PS4 Pro because I'll be able to play Sony exclusives in their superior form. I can already play Xbox "exclusives" in their superior form, why would I wait a year and spend $500-$600 on an inferior version that's already beaten by hardware today? I really don't understand, must be brand loyalty driving them.

[jmetalhead77812]

@bluefox755

For me personally I prefer XB over PS. No issue with PS, just my preference. I have never gamed on PC and never will.

BTW... What's your reason for being on an XB article, other than trolling? That's what I don't get. There's zero interest in XB by most commenters on here, but here they are spreading their negativity. It's hilarious and pathetic at the same time.

[Pancit_Canton]

They need plenty of good luck charm like;

2 sets of horse shoe
7 four leaf clovers
3 rabbits foot
1 unicorn horn
2 buck tooth Leprechaun
Human sacrifice Milo

[nitus10]

You forgot the demon's blood and fairy wings.

Oh, wait you can't use them they are for casting curses although they do inflict deadly poison and wind magic when applied to a steel sword which must be forged by the light of a full moon. 😉

[DashArrivals]

bahahahaa A bloody sacrifice of Milo all in native 4K

[rainslacker]

Milo was already offered up to the gaming Gods during MS scramble to do all those 180's early in the X1's life when they nixed the Kinect requirement. Milo is stuck in back of the closet purgatory reserved for all those peripherals that people stop caring about.

[jukins]

It's about content not power.... power is nice but when all we've had is multiple doses of halo gears and forza for 4 years I just don't see an even more expensive console changing that. Didn't work at launch doubt it will work mid cycle

[TKCMuzzer]

Thats why they will always be chasing. Their nearest competitor keeps showing off content, future near and future far which keeps their audience engaged in the hardware they own. There are more people talking about 'The Last Of Us Part 2' than the PS5 and that's were you want to be with your audience.
I hear a lot of Scorpio but not a lot about games, from both MS and its fans, it continues to mask the obvious issue.

[lastking95]

Daaaaamn so power now matters 0? Why are ppl buying the pro then? Lol what a joke give it a rest with the flip flop

[UCForce]

Wow ! Your attitude are completely out of control.

[trooper_]

Because the pro has...

GAMES!

Ding, ding!

[GUTZnPAPERCUTZ]

I hope so! What is the CPU already dag nabit lol. GPU = Promising, Memory = Hell yeah!, CPU = ?

[DarXyde]

The reality is that Scorpio will likely not have the effect they're going for. Power is great, but it is not the deciding factor. It never was and the most powerful consoles that DO win are successful because of their software. That is honestly the bottom line. It's the reason consoles are still relevant when you get mods and power on PC. If you ask me, when it comes to software, Sony has an almost unfair advantage over the Xbox. Add to the fact that you've got Switch and a new Zelda and Microsoft is in a position to do well, but not to their expectations. The JRPG enthusiast has Persona 5 to look forward to. The masochist has Ni-Oh. Fans of The Witcher have Horizon. The young at heart and nostalgic have Kingdom Hearts 2.8. The Platinum faithful have Nier. That's just the first quarter. Then with Switch launching and Zelda soon to follow, I just don't see where Microsoft fits in. "Dead on arrival" is a bit hyperbolic and not a phrase I'd use to describe Scorpio, but it's pretty much going to sell to the hardware fanatics. I don't see the average gamer ignoring the plethora of high quality titles elsewhere for the Scorpio.

Sony has potentially opened up the powerful hardware market with Pro, which may attract some sales for Scorpio and work against them, but we'll see soon enough.

[lastking95]

Wii software> ps3 and 360? Gtfoh
How you ppl stop saying stupid 💩

[UCForce]

How about calm yourself ?

[trooper_]

Keep living in denial. 😂

[DarXyde]

Your interpretation needs work.

Did I say that? No, I did not. And that's a subjective matter anyway.

The Wii tapped a market that didn't exist before. Last generation was an aberration in every sense of the word, but let me explain what you so eagerly replied to without understanding. I wrote...

"It never was and the most powerful consoles that DO win are successful because of their software. That is honestly the bottom line."

Where did I say Wii had better software, sir? Oh wait, I didn't? Ah, now it makes sense.

See, you took my explanation of software being the determining factor as meaning "superior software". That is not the case. It's about having the software that reaches people. In the case of the Wii, because it was such a casual friendly console that anyone can get into, the software did, in fact, help it out.

[PlayableGamez-]

Phil you need more games!! Not more hardware.

[UCForce]

I usually disagree with you about everything, but you are right about this one and I agree with you. Xbox need more games, not just shooter.

[nicsaysdie]

Isn't the Scorpio releasing holiday 2017? Is Phil saying that the games line up and price point are so outstanding that the other 9 or 10 months of the year will be completely obliterated? Meaning that the success of Sony exclusives and console sales won't matter because MS will totally destroy all of that with just the release of a system that has no breathtakingly mind blowing games announced so far? Nothing to show except specs and talk? Not even a price? I hope it is mind blowing. But I think it's pretty hard to believe they will negate all competition and make 2017 Xbox's year by releasing a beast of a console at the tail end. They certainly must think they have a lot of pretty sweet magic in that hat. Just sayin'.

[Tallpine]

Xbox needs games not power, simple as that.

[Automatic79]

@Hoffman

"He is such a great guy, I wish it to the xbox audience that he can do some good stuff for you guys next year.

Maybe a new Battletoads game that will also be on PC?"

When I hear comments like yours it feels like a direct insult to the Xbox One Team and its fans. First I want to tell you that the Xbox Team has done a whole lot for us gamers, fan feedback, Back Compat a steady stream of games since launch. From Fan Favorites like DeadRising 3, DeadRising 4, Rise of the Tomb Raider to returning core IP like Halo 5, Forza Motorsport and Forza Horizon, they brought on a new team that delivered on Gears of War 4, next year Halo Wars, Crackdown(Tell me what company is doing what this team is doing with realtime destructibility). Plus they have delivered every year fantastic new IP's RYSE, Titanfall, Ori and the Blind Forest, Recore, Quantum Break, next year they will deliver even more like Sea of Thieves(look at the massive scope of this game), Scalebound, Cuphead, Below, Tearaway. We have the best online network, best controller, Xbox One S with HDR and 4K Blueray player. They have listened to the fans and will continue to deliver. When you say I wish to the Xbox audience that he can do good stuff guess what to us Xbox gamers he has done good stuff.

I also want the community on this website to know that yes Xbox will always have less JRPG'S than Sony's console, but in my honest opinion and for me personally, I truly do not run out and buy any system for JRPG's, this is not a knock on that fan base. However, Xbox is an American product and the games are made more for that audience while the competition delivers JRPG's because its a Japanese product. While Xbox may not have the general amount of support from the Japanese developers Xbox has brought out a few products that cater to that audience, for example, Crimson Dragon, Attack on the Titans, Final Fantasy, One Piece Burning Blood and next year Kingdom Hearts 3.

People need to stop comparing the two competitors due to one offering more than the other in terms of JRPG's. I honestly think half the time the people that throw these JRPG's out there are doing it to fluff there list. Can anyone answer me this how well did Star Ocean sales do this year?

Enough with the disgusting fanboy nonsense lets enjoy both consoles and enjoy all the games available.

[Razzer]

"When I hear comments like yours it feels like a direct insult to the Xbox One Team and its fans."

lol.....what did he say that was so insulting?

And use the reply link!

[DarXyde]

A very respectable comment, mate. Indeed, Microsoft has done a lot. Anyone who questions that is likely in denial. But see, it's definitely about different strokes for different folks. Conceptually, Crackdown sounds technically impressive, but it's unusual for them to place so much emphasis on this franchise when it wasn't known to be groundbreaking. I think they missed the chance to do something really great by introducing their cloud technology with something more renowned. That's just me, though. Not to undermine your statement, but what's "most impressive" is pretty subjective. Destruction and physics calculations are neat, but ultimately no better than Sony saying PS3's HDMI can output colors that we can't even perceive: it's cool, but ultimately, it just screams "look what I can do". If a building is destroyed, does it really matter exactly HOW it goes from high standing to rubble? Clearly, it's supposed to take it to the next level, but there's only so much that you can tangibly do with that.

Some of the games you mentioned like Ori and Cuphead are basically guaranteed hits (Ori was phenomenal), but you know Tearaway is a PlayStation title, right?

As for Xbox not having much in the way of JRPGs, sure it's meant for a more western audience, but PlayStation thrives there because they have enough for everyone. There's no shortage of eastern OR western games on PlayStation. I'm sure some people use JRPGs to enhance their lists, but I'm actually someone who enjoys the good ones. I'd not refer to Star Ocean sales; it wasn't that great, so low sales are pretty understandable. Having those titles is great, but they also need to be good.

Microsoft is trying and I respect that. I don't game much at all on the Xbox since my needs are met pretty well between PlayStation and Nintendo. But I have one to get those must have games.

Anyway, I'm glad you were able to write about the consoles in a partial but admirable way. It's a level of probity often unseen. Well, cheers.

[nicsaysdie]

Well said. Cheers indeed.

[Automatic79]

@DarXyde

"but you know Tearaway is a PlayStation title, right?"

Pardon, I meant Tacoma.

"As for Xbox not having much in the way of JRPGs, sure it's meant for a more western audience, but PlayStation thrives there because they have enough for everyone. There's no shortage of eastern OR western games on PlayStation. I'm sure some people use JRPGs to enhance their lists, but I'm actually someone who enjoys the good ones. I'd not refer to Star Ocean sales; it wasn't that great, so low sales are pretty understandable. Having those titles is great, but they also need to be good."

You say Playstation 4 thrives because they have enough for everyone. However, I don't see it that way, Where are the shooters, the action adventure games for 2016? If you are only relying on remasters, horrible third party deals like Street Fighter V, plus hyped up indie games like No Mans Sky. Than I don't see what they offer me. Yes they have a ton of JRPG's, but like I said I don't by a console for those games. Do you remember the great games that PS3 had like Resistance, Socom, God of War where are those games. For me 2016 only offered Uncharted 4.

To be honest, 2016 was probably the worst year since I owned the PS4. To clarify, I play third party games on Xbox One. So to me. The PS4 may offer a lot but its not checking off the right boxes for a system that is selling incredibly well. To me Sony is really far from offering greatness. Personally, I am looking forward to Nintendo. To me, the combination of Xbox and Nintendo for 2017 will probably one of the best combos in gaming history.

I am glad you wrote a decent response, it feels good to speak to sensible/civil people on this website.

[nitus10]

Err "Tearaway" is a PS4 and PSVita game.

As for "Below", "Cuphead", "Scalebound" and "Sea of Thieves" they are for the XB1 and MS Windows which kind of negates the reason for purchasing an XB1 or the Scorpio.

Yes "Crimson Dragon" was an XB1 exclusive and I can't even get sales figures they were so low, but Attack on the Titans (I think you mean "Attack on Titan"), Final Fantasy, One Piece Burning Blood and next year Kingdom Hearts 3 are all multiplatform.

As for Star Ocean 5, to date the game has sold approx 310,000 (PS4) and 40,000 (PS3) so not that well although you do have to take into account if the game was profitable or did it make a loss?

>> Xbox is an American product and the games are made more for that audience while the competition delivers
>> JRPG's because its a Japanese product.

You are sort of correct with the XB1 but Sony has targeted the worldwide market and that market also likes RPG's which include Action, turn based and active turn based.

Note: I don't like distinguishing RPG's as Western and Japanese since most RPG's are based on English, Irish, Scotish and European mythologies with the Japanese injecting some of their mythology into some of their games.

[nicsaysdie]

Can you really consider tearaway something Microsoft is bringing to the table?

[DashArrivals]

It's not just JRPG's buddy. It's a whole lot more than that. Real AAA exclusives. More 1st party studios. I could keep going, but you sit in lala land ok. You'll be fine there. Let the PS4 fans worry about what the PS4 has, ok? Thanks man

[Sciurus_vulgaris]

I would rather 2017 be the year, that the so called classic IPs and games he teases finally show up.

[DarkSniper]

Phil Spencer is once again having delusions of granduer. Microsoft's 2017 is already over. In fact, you can say the same for their 2018,2019, 2020 and beyond. The Xbox One has been what Dark Sniper considers to be their biggest commercial flop since entering the market. With abysmal console sales, abandoned support in Japan and a games lineup that's emptier than a bachelor's refrigerator, Xbox One is definitely what you would call a colossal failure.

The Xbox Scorpio is nothing more than a smoke and mirrors "add-on" that contributes absolutely nothing to 4K gaming. You can expect to see the same 2-3 shooters with slightly better graphics and a drought of unoriginal exclusives and inferior third-party ports.

Dark Sniper will gladly say no thank you to Project Scorpio. He already has made his choice for his 4K gaming needs.

$niper

[kraenk12]

Abysmal console sales?! It's selling as much as the 360 in the same time frame. I agree with the rest you wrote though.

[joab777]

It will if the software follows. It's all about the games, though I haven't bought an X1 yet and I am looking forward to Scorpio. Though, I have considered just upgrading my PC if every exclusive is offered on Windows.

We will see, but it looks good for MS in 2017.

[Nodoze]

Sorry to say it won't. There is no catching Sony at this point. The Scorpio is frankly a bit confusing. While it will be very powerful, what happens to the current users? Will they be abandoned? The console is already underpowered, and with this new hardware devs will be wanting to put it through it's paces (leaving current owners in a bind to upgrade). Sony played this smart by having a smaller cost differential. MS will not be able to do that. The scorpio will be 499+ effectively limiting it to a niche market (the hardcore Xbox fans).

[kraenk12]

Very true...they probably expect all XBox fans to upgrade as soon as possible. X1 game sales will decline and it won't take long until they will drop support and will try to forget about that chapter. I really do think this will haunt them later though...it doesn't really enforce consumer trust.

[DarkZane]

He said it will be a premium product, so it's likely gonna be 500-600$. Even if it's 400$, the Ps4 Pro will have dropped in price by then, so it's gonna outsell it like the PS4 does right now.

Plus the fact that the Xbox One doesn't sell as good as the PS4 is because it has less games, the same will happen with the scorpio.

[PhoenixUp]

How can 2017 be Microsoft's year when their console will still receive less games than PS4

[SirBradders]

I was also thinking the same but also the things releasing toward the end of the year. So xbox gonna take a beating for most the year regardless.

[Rob_Ko]

just wait for .... 2017

[medman]

Author says " Scorpio will make 2017 Microsoft's year". Meanwhile, the quotes from Phil Spencer say nothing resembling that statement. What journalistic integrity.

[OB1Biker]

Exactly what I was thinking. He wrote an article based on a single tweet (sounding like a first year student trying to analyse it) and padded with an old interview. It happens too often on N4G.
'Looking forward to E3. We build our Xbox plans for Xbox customers, not in response to others. I think 2017 will be a good year.'
That's all there is to it really.

[ultimize]

Too late
After PS4 Pro
After Switch
And not enough exclusive games!
Just Foza Gears Halo again and again
Haha Poor Scorpio

[81BX]

Thanks for showing up guys. See you in line for Scorpio day 1!

[lastking95]

Phil bout to kill e3 release that bad boy in april! 2017 should be great for me all around.

[UCForce]

I haven't seen you comment for awhile. Now you just jumping gun way too fast.

[Razrye2]

I'm gonna give it a miss. Already upgraded to a pro. So I've already got a 4k gaming machine. This gen xbox has really let me down.

[SynestheticRoar]

Philly Spin cycle spencer hope is great.

[Trekster_Gamer]

Phil.. good for XBOX... Saved the brand.

Scorpio will be the Ultimate Console Power in the Universe... I suggest we use it!!!

[UCForce]

Ok what ?

[hafitz]

I won't be buying PS4 Pro and Scorpio for 4k. Already had the the original PS4 and Xbox One. Currently am playing 4k only on PC as that is native. Will wait for the next console, which is ps5. That's the time I will go for 4k on consoles.

[hahaha]

Hello Phil, unfortunately Gears 4 alone would not be enough to bridge the gap between now till Scorpio releases.

[burza1982]

Show me the games first Mr.
Because with this games XBox have they will not occur far. Need more powerful exclusive like PS have.

[S2Killinit]

Another "phil spencer says" article.

[Artemidorus]

If they can provide decent specs and new fresh games, it will upset Sony.

[UCForce]

Same thing can upset Microsoft.

Edit : @Artemidorus You will find out soon.

[Artemidorus]

You have the pro, you have the games what more are you talking about?

[corroios]

Does the Scorpio comes out on january? Spencer the pressure is already getting to you. By the time the Scorpio is out 2017 will be almost over....

[FyBy]

Oh no, another we love customers BS. But on the other side, there is no other way for microsoft than to love their customers to be able to compete with ps4. Competition is good so I hope Scorpio will be success.

[JMyers]

Make Xbox great again! /s

"We build our Xbox plans for Xbox customers, not in response to others"... umm no... because if that was the case the OG XboxOne would not require always online, check-ins and it would have let you play used games. They also would not have included Kinect... that was changed in response to the competition and market outrage.

What games will launch with Scorpio and what new IPs will MS bring with this launch, and at what price. That's the key consumer question. They have already went back on this being a new console.,. now its a mid-gen upgrade.

[wheatley]

Imagine he had been in charge from the start. I'm not an Xbox owner but he's recovered a lot of the crap that went with the Xbox One reveal and he must be commended for that.

[oSHINSAo]

Give Me Forza 7 with UHD Graphics, that will be a beast of racing game

[Lynx0207]

There are no exclusives for X1 so 2017 will be Ps4 year, too.

[Brohan]

Damn Xbox is the place to play all the next best games.

[SaveFerris]

It won't catch up to the PS4 or PS4 Pro, because Scorpio is a next-gen console.

[Dragonscale]

Big hope, small chance.

Its not just about power Phil.

[MultiConsoleGamer]

E3 2017

[Skankinruby]

Undeniable problem there Phil, you can make this console as powerful as you want but until you start putting out games that people want and can't get on ps4 xbox will continue to be a waste of time to gamers as a whole.

[ASBO-5]

stranger things have happened, hell the ouya may even make a come back! Hold on while I hold my breath

[gedden7]

"HOPES", yeah sure. Listen, I have a XB1 and there's not much they can do to catch up to Sony's lead. Unless someone how they start pumping out EXCLUSIVE to XB1 (ONLY) games that are EXTREMELY GREAT and popular, then they are wasting time and $$$$ with the Scorpio. Let alone the comp that Nintendo will be bringing with the Switch. Maybe if they bundle the Scorpio w/ Vr for $300 they will be able to make dent. MAYBE. Now let the hate start.

[yeahright2]

I hope so, xbox needs a little shot in the arm. If I'm not mistaken the X1 isn't outpacing the 360 anymore as the 360 was well pass 30 million by this point.

[KakashiHotake]

I love my PS4 but i'm looking forward to seeing what Xbox Scorpio has in store. Doesn't make much sense to get a Pro if you already have a PS4 but atleast Scorpio and Nintendo Switch offers something different from the usual. PS4 to PS Pro is like going from Iphone 6 to iphone 6s. But Scorpio actually takes a pretty decent leap that might actually be worth an upgrade, though it remains to be seen.

[PainUzumaki]

Doubt it....I havent seen new one game from MS thats wanting me to buy an xbox

[KickSpinFilter]

MS really need to price this right. 4K is not going to be much better than checker board 4K, were really starting to enter diminishing returns if folks are playing more than 4 feet away. HDR will have a far bigger impact than 4K. Scorpio pricing needs to be on point, along with some exclusives we have yet to see (so not Halo, Forza, or Gears) A launch with Crackdown 3, Scalebound, etc, would serve them well. Cuz you know Sony is going to drop price of Pro at that point by $50 and perhaps have a big launch like God of War a week before Scorpio comes out (if Sony is smart)

[KickSpinFilter]

MS really need to price this right. 4K is not going to be much better than checker board 4K, were really starting to enter diminishing returns when folks are playing more than 4 feet away. HDR will have a far bigger impact than 4K. Scorpio pricing needs to be on point, along with some exclusives we have yet to see (so not Halo, Forza, or Gears) A launch with Crackdown 3, Scalebound, etc, would serve them well. Cuz you know Sony is going to drop price of Pro at that point by $50 and perhaps have a big launch like God of War a week before Scorpio comes out (if Sony is smart)

[Tross]

But...isn't the Scorpio not due out till near the end of the year? If so, how could it be Scorpio's year? By that logic 2016 has been the Pro's year, but if anything that's going to be next year since it will have free reign as the only 4K system for most of it.

[thisismyaccount]

When they finally launch the scorpio, all you get are discount coupons to build a cheap pc. Gonna be a rough year, every week a sordio or phil spencer says article. Why even bother? Everything but Halo/Sunset is now on the PC ... most already have a potent pc and others are happy with their Xbone or S modell.

The only incentive would be exclusives for the scorpio, which would of course backfire. No matter if timed or not ...; this will flop hard

A) premium product, more than $299 around $500 easily
B) 99% of the games are now avaib. for the PC as well
C) PS4/Pro/slim at over 50mill. by then easy 60mill
D) if there are no exclusives for the scoprio, then there´s no reason for anyone to get it
E) if there are exclusives (my tip ME4), then XBone/S ppl. gonna rant about it and others as well

I could go on, from the concept/idea to realization of the scorpio.. everything is clouded in darkness. No exlusives? No need for me to get one, that simple.

[CP_Company]

another delusional propaganda :)