Hardware specs, screen size described.
"Additional info: whatever the solution will be, the computing power it has falls far behind a PS4, let alone a PS4 Pro. Don't have high hopes for that. The selling point for it is high portability and hybrid providing rich gameplay possibilities." Exactly what I figured would happen. Say goodbye to 3rd party support yet again. The portability seems pretty nice but that's about it.
If its true, then im sorry nintendo, being a nintendo fan for a long time i must say we need to lart ways, nonway i will buy another underpowered with no 3rd party suppory again
I bet a lot of people feel this way. But it launches with Zelda :-)
It might be fake. Read the comments in the article.
Can u sell me your games to me instead of GS. I'm only looking for what I don't own & I will pay an extra $1 on top of what GS price trade in.
If this is true, I'm not buying an NX. They have an APU deal from AMD just tugging at their shoulders and they still refuse. They should have brought their A game with a console atleast as powerful as PS4-OG, at the lowest price possible. Cartridges? Fine. Small 500 GB HDD? Fine. Not as powerful as PS4-Pro? Fine. But being half as powerful as PS4-OG is not fine. That's 2013 tech, and you're halving the power. TF?
Agreed. I am beyond pissed at buying a Wii U and watching its fate. Especially in this generation where everything is about power and graphical comparisons.
nintendo knows its own franchises are the key selling point so they dont care about specs and trying to compete with microsoft and sony on performance. they feel they have to make hardware designed around their software which of course ignores third party wishes which is an easy port that can keep up with todays technology. this will probably be priced at $249
Disappointing, but expected. It is Nintendo, after all. Hell bent on using gimmicks to sell weak hardware, not giving a rat's ass about third party support or online.
Called it. The NX can't be a powerhouse and be able to do gaming on the go at the same time. This will be another failure ;)
To be fair with a 1080p 6" screen it can be difficult but not impossible to detect the difference between 720p and 1080p.content but a 720p screen is just rediculous especially since many mobile phones do have screens that can display 1080p and some can display 4K (ok they are expensive). I would expect the device when docked can display at least 1080p to your HDTV. Going back to cartridges may be fine for a handheld where you have limited storage and require a high degree of shock resistance, but cartridges even in OEM quantities are expensive compared to disks which can be as low as a few cents in OEM quantities. Yes, there goes third party support.
This is essentially just like the WiiU, but with a longer battery life, and with higher performance in the handheld part of the console, but also with the handheld part of the console being interconnected with the dock for increased processing power when used on a TV? I really don't understand what Nintendo is thinking!! They should just call this the WiiU2, because that will be the fate of the NX.
What a disaster. Bye Nintendo. I hope it's fake. Nintendo used to be cutting edge... those days are gone. I don't even think kids would want to play this thing. Kids aren't stupid...even as a child I knew the difference a powerful console made.
I guess for people who are Nintendo only gamers, it's maybe a bad deal. For people like me who OWN a PS4 and Xbox One, I don't need 3rd party games because I'm not gonna buy games twice, just to have on PS4 and NX. All I care about are different games- games I can't buy on PS4/X1. But even for Nintendo gamers, it doesn't need multiplats- it needs ENOUGH GAMES. Regardless of how it achieves that. People assume multiplats are the only way- the be all end all. But follow me here. What if, by virtue of being a hybrid, it gets TWICE the 1st party games (handheld and console combined into one). Plus, it gets a few stray exclusives on the console side like Wii U got (Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate, Bayonetta 2, etc) and maybe better multiplat support (Dragon Quest XI already coming for example) plus it gets the robust lineup of 3rd party exclusives from the handheld side of things like 3DS got (too many to list- but everyone knows how many 3rd party games 3DS has). All that combined, NX a could have well more than enough games to keep people satisfied, all without ever touching the slew of modern day western AAA. Have people not considered this? Or are they just blindly reciting what they hear, that "it's gotta have multiplats"?
Nintendo has 3rd party support on 3DS, and we all know NX has initial 3rd party support. UBI Soft seems to love system (yes they said that about Wii U too) Ubi says something like 'the system has something built in that is going to attract a lot of different people' that's not exact, but close. Also that the interface is great, and " Nintendo learned from Wii U.. So for me, day one with BOTW! With better graphics than Wii U,'s version. Also hopefully this new game Ubi keeps hinting at!!! Also what could be built in that would attract people? I have to wonder what that could be?!?
Finally you Nintendo fans see the light. Took you three generations to figure it out. With that said I am buying it for exclusives. Where else am I gonna spend my disposable money.
If any of this is true the Nintendo NX is DOA. Hopefully this is just fake garbage. But we won't know until Nintendo comes out and gives us all the info.
We already knew this based off insiders. It will be almost as powerful as an xbone if rumors are true.
Which is massively impressive for a portable. The NX isn't underpowered it's bleeding edge. a handheld that can run scaled down versions of current gen multiplats. It'l be able to run almosteverything the bone can with a small downscale. I think you'l find that makes it A BEAST handheld/hybrid
Eddie... Which isn't impressive as a console for most. You will have those who will see it underwhelming as a console and others loving it as a handheld. Now as a handheld it will be great, I agree. I mean at this point the last handheld released that was cutting edge in power was the vita but that was many years ago so I would expect this bump in power and it is welcomed. Where do I stand in regards to the NX?I've grown to not expect premium console hardware from Nintendo so that won't be my gripe. If it is priced well (according to rumors consumers will be pleasently surprised by its price so that's a plus if true) then I'm all in. I also like the TV dock aspect ala PSP go and welcome that feature. Rpgsama... Rumors are just that rumors but all sources mentioning the screen all say 720p so its a safe bet that's what it will be.
I expected that the Hybrid wasn't going to be as powerful as the Ps4/One, the most dissapointing thing for me in this rumors and hope that it isn't true is that the screen will have a maximum resolution of 720p, in an age where cellphones have 1440p resolution and HDR on them, 720p screen will make the games look even worse.
We don't know. 0.5-1 TFlops is looks like. 1 TFlop in 2017 is still 2007-2008 power levels. For a console that sucks. Plus, it would only be that way when docked. When 'on the go', it's power would be substantially less. Like 0.5 TFlops at most, probably more like around Wii U power. Still rumors, but more and more rumors from many different sources are triangulating it.
Imo. It's not about the power for the handheld, it's about the build specs. The vita is far less powerful than phones I pads and other handhelds but the specs make it great for devs to make their games look amazing through dynamic lighting and shaders etc. Even with a sub 720p rez. Look how great killzone mercs looks. I'd take that over a shiny-bland android game any day. It's up to the devs to make a console game on handheld optimized for it rather than a dull looking game at 1080p 60fps on a much more powerful phone. Nintendo needs to dump money into first and third party if third parties aren't gonna willfully jump on board. I'm sure they have plenty of room for another failure but it doesn't make sense to not fix any of the mistakes they've had last gen. If they don't, it would be a weird occurrence and just a facepalm. I think pokemon on console will be their killer app. And if they can get COD on the go with little input lag, thatll be another killer app for what they're tryna do. I'm excited for the handheld aspect for my vita is slowly dying and I'm ready for something better/ more powerful. The damn thing just better have joysticks and buttons that's all I care about lol.
@eddienx What's the use of the 3ds if they have a handheld/console. I wish they would make the 3ds more powerful and make a traditional power house of a console! I feel like they don't listen at all to the gamers. Most of Nintendos followers have been with them for years! I know they've been screaming what they want but they never listen! I think that's why Sony and Microsoft have jumped way ahead in the race. They seem to pay attention to the consumer.
Maybe Sony could port their Vita catalogue over? I know they won't, but it would be a phenomenal success if they did.
It won't be anywhere close to as powerful as the XB1. Maybe as powerful as the PS3 or XBox 360. Seems Nintendo just wanted to make another handheld since their 3DS is the only thing selling like crazy for them.
well it is a portable. i expected 1 Tflop max. Since it was to be a portable thing. Still 2 to 3 times more power than Wiiu which is the funny part.
I think more then 1tf on it.
Nintendo NX "Performance module" could fit GTX 1080 for 8.9 TFLOPS of Power!!!
Funny? I think you meant "sad".
yah, if they're not going to have MAJORITY of 3rd parties en-masse making games on this thing, it's doomed to the same old audience (unless it does something radically different hardware wise). Might still jump in if it's below $250 or so, no way I'd spend $300+ for any nintendo console, ever. Even $250 for a handheld is pushing it, but hey, might still have free online for the few games I want to play online.
FC is 1 out the 3 that Nin has put to work to make the NX. Nin is smart & again this is a trial run. If true I won't care as XenoBlade on the NX will make all RPGs try to make sex with it but XenoBlade won't allow it!
Color me skeptical. I'll wait for the reveal. One of the things that make me question this are things like not knowing what exact chips are inside but yet he/she can discern the power level. I don't expect it to be super powerful but again I need some more concrete details. @miyamoto From what I understand this is not the same artist who sketched the pictures of the PS4 Slim and the PS4 Pro.
The Foxconn artist has always been spot on credible like with the PS Slim and the PS4 Pro. http://static1.gamespot.com... http://cdn.wccftech.com/wp-...
Way to stir up negative sentiment with baseless statements. Here's the truth; if it matches the XB1, it will be capable of getting ALL THE BIG MULTIPLATS that are coming up. Watch Dogs 2, Kingdom Hearts 3, anything that could functionally run on the XB1, would be capable of running on the NX. And since third parties have admitted that THEY AREN'T ABANDONING THE XB1 OR PS4, that means they won't have any tech-based excuses to avoid the NX. Not matching the Pro is not a death sentence for third party support on NX. That's just how it is.
Well first off, it has to actually match the XB1, not just GPU but also CPU. The rumors put it between 0.5-1 TFlop. Even 1 TFlop is 2007-2008 power levels. A game that runs say 720/60 on the XB1 is going to struggle on the NX. But you forget a few things when making such a declaration. It would only work in docked mode. Because almost no way when 'on the go', it has more than 0.5 TFlops. So if you think you're going to get the AAA 2017-2020 AAA 3rd party multiplats at 0.5 TFlops... no way. Even 1 TFlop is going to be hard for most devs to pull it off if Nintendo even allows company to forgo the whole mobile aspect. I.E. Some games might not work at all in 'on the go' mode, they ONLY work when docked. Can devs even do this? If they are forced to do a mobile mode, that's going to destroy pretty much any hopes on two fronts, it has to include a 0.5 TFlop of less version, and that in of itself makes it more expensive to make than a PS4/XB1 game because they'd have to create brand new ultra low assets. Right now the Pro/Scorpio will just utilize PC high/ultra settings that already exist. All to match a XB1 which anyone will tell you isn't really a good performer for AAA 3rd party games. That's why if people have both, they overwhelmingly buy the PS4 version for AAA 3rd party games. Even then on the PS4 these games leave alot to be desired, which is one reason why we are getting Pro/Scorpio, and even there's a level higher than that with PC. Of course they aren't Abandoning the XB1 or PS4, but the PS4 is still massively more powerful than the NX as rumored in docked mode. But you also have to realize that even for the PS4, the life expectancy of it getting AAA 3rd party games in an acceptable manner is about half gone already. Plus it's not just about power, it's about SALES. Not just about SALES, but HOW it's used. You see with the NX, as rumored, you can use it as a handheld or hooked up to a TV. The AAA 3rd party games are going to focus on the people who utilize the system hooed up to a TV. They are not going to assume that most people are going to use it as both. Most people are likely to use it mostly as a handheld, and thus while it's a 'sale', it's not really a sale that indicates a likelihood of buying console style games. Thus if it sells 30 million as a handheld, that doesn't mean a significant number of those 30 million handhelds owners will buy a console game on it. To really get AAA 3rd party support, it needs to sell 20 million units in the first year for CONSOLE style usage. That's highly unlikely. It may get 5-10 million sales in it's lifetime for that usage. Also when Ubisoft talked about the projects it has on the NX, they didn't say Far Cry whatever or Watch Dogs 2, they said Just Dance and Rabbids. So that's just how it is, and with that how it is, AAA 3rd party support will be few and far between.
" And since third parties have admitted that THEY AREN'T ABANDONING THE XB1 OR PS4, that means they won't have any tech-based excuses to avoid the NX. " Isn't that the same thinking Nintendo had with the Wii U in regards to PS3 & 360??? And look how it turned out... "Not matching the Pro is not a death sentence for third party support on NX. " Nor does it future proof the NX 4 to 5 years from launch. So which business model will this console-portable hybrid follow? the home console model or the smartphone model?
@jmc "Well first off, it has to actually match the XB1, not just GPU but also CPU. The rumors put it between 0.5-1 TFlop. Even 1 TFlop is 2007-2008 power levels. A game that runs say 720/60 on the XB1 is going to struggle on the NX. But you forget a few things when making such a declaration. It would only work in docked mode. Because almost no way when 'on the go', it has more than 0.5 TFlops. So if you think you're going to get the AAA 2017-2020 AAA 3rd party multiplats at 0.5 TFlops... no way. " #1 Way to ignore that there are also rumors putting it above the PS4 in power, as well as rumors placing it between the PS4 and XB1. #2 On what basis do you assume they can't make it work just as well when undocked? The tech to do it is out there, so assuming it can't just means you're wishing the worst. " All to match a XB1 which anyone will tell you isn't really a good performer for AAA 3rd party games. That's why if people have both, they overwhelmingly buy the PS4 version for AAA 3rd party games." Citation needed. Raw console sales do not reflect attach rate for software; Wii and Wii U prove that several times over. Also, it doesn't matter; they run and play perfectly fine on the XB1, and devs keep making big games for it regardless of the PS4's sales. That means the same will be true for the NX. "To really get AAA 3rd party support, it needs to sell 20 million units in the first year for CONSOLE style usage." You've got it backwards; to get 20 mill in sales first year, barring one of those frequent Nintendo surprises that does the opposite of what everyone thinks that takes off big time, it needs the right games from third parties. Which, if it matches the XB1, which many rumors have suggested it will at least do, it will be getting. Honestly, with the fact that you only believe the negative rumors, I can only conclude that you want this system to fail. Me, I'm not even assuming it's a hybrid at all. I'm not assuming anything until Nintendo shows it.
Wonderful doing what he does best damage controlling. You do realize how much bad press the X1 received regarding its multiplats, right? And basically you're okay with Nintendo repeating what the X1 went through? I find that funny since you're always crying foul over all the negative articles related to the Nintendo. Now you're pretty much asking for it LOL. ;)
I'm OK with it even if it isn't quite as powerful. Personally, being able to play some of the better handheld games that come out on Nintendo consoles on the TV, as well as it doubling as a mobile console, but with better quality than the 3DS can deliver(assuming at least it's going to be close to X1 or better than last gen graphics), then I'm perfectly content with that. I don't need another system to play multi-plats, but Nintendo systems do offer enough uniqueness to gaming as a whole to make it appealing....particularly on their handhelds which is where most of their JRPG's will show up. I think it could work out for Nintendo though. Their handhelds are quite popular, even with the market diminishing, they can still manage to sell quite a few units. This will mean that it should get notice from the 3rd party providers, because they do not need to segregate their builds between a home and handheld market, and with the larger install base coming from handheld(assumedly) it would be hard to ignore. As it stands now, Nintendo's home console doesn't have the install base to warrant big support. Last gen, it didn't have the power to bring the big games. Their handhelds don't have the power to bring the big games. This model solves both problems for pubs/devs with a single product, and opens up games which were traditionally for home console/PC onto the larger market of both home and handheld owners. It's something Nvidia shield tried to do, but couldn't make headway in most likely due to price and poor marketing. Some concessions may have to be made if it isn't quite up to X1 standards, but I can't imagine they're going to be something that would deter adoption for those that prefer handheld, and the added bonus of being able to dock to a TV with an upgraded "boost pack" for more power could bring some level of parity for the more casual types who don't get all worked up over every pixel or how many blades of grass are on the screen. In the mean time, those people who want more home console like experiences on the go, can also get it. I think it's a good idea personally, even though I understand that some people may not find it appealing unless it's the most powerful thing available, as if that amount of power is required to deliver the most exhilarating games possible.....which ultimately isn't true in the least. I am dubious on the claims of less than 1TB though. Not sure how the foxconn employee would know that without doing some research, or having access to things the average worker wouldn't. Plus, 1TB in a mobile nowadays isn't that much overall that power consumption would be an issue. There was a comment in the article which linked to this supposedly being fake, and while it's possible the actual set up is correct, it doesn't mean the specs are.
" it will be capable of getting ALL THE BIG MULTIPLATS that are coming up" Did Wii U get those PS3 and 360 games that released afterwards? I mean....Wii U didn't even get games that were releasing near the ending of PS3 and 360's life. Resident Evil Zero and 2002 remaster skipped Wii U, Revelations 2 skipped Wii U and its actually on Vita and PS3 and 360. What about Destiny? That was on PS3 and 360 too, I'm sorry but your statements basically ignore reality once again as your not even acknowledging that this has happened before. That doesn't mean anything bud. If the platform is successful and is easy to work with, we'll see ports, if not...don't expect it to get ANY support. The rumors we are hearing are suggesting its even worst then Wii U in regards to 3rd party support. If its merely a handheld, don't expect huge support from western 3rd party. If its indeed using sd cards, don't expect MANY games that will be using lots of space. "THEY AREN'T ABANDONING THE XB1 OR PS4, that means they won't have any tech-based excuses to avoid the NX" PS4 and XONE are not NX though bud. They are merely saying this based on the install base and not fragmenting the market based on what Sony has stated, they can't considering Sony stated they won't allow developer to make titles on JUST Pro. (MS is another story, but I expect the same outcome) That has nothing to actually do with NX getting the same games bud. Developers supported PS3 and 360 MORE then they did Wii U....EVEN AFTER PS4 and XONE's launch. Again...look at how many games went to PS3 and 360 after PS4 and XONE...THAT DIDN'T go to Wii U. Sooooo no. PS4 and XONE getting support, doesn't mean NX will get the same. Did Wii U when PS3 and 360 was out? Sure. Where is the KH Collection on Wii U bud? Yet you are asking for KH3? LMFAO! ON a system that has a zero install base compared to PS4 and XONE? Funny.
Will the architecture be easy to port to like bone/van4 though? Graphics werent the problem for me with the wiiu as SM3DW was and still is one of the best looking games around. The problem for me was no Metroid, no Zelda, no TRUE 3D Mario.
@wonder- " You can play it on the go, or you plug it into an HDMI port on your TV" Soooooo exactly what I stated it would be a year ago? Annnnnnnnnnnd called it. Nintendo is quietly existing the dedicated console market. Likely exactly for the same reasons i stated a long time ago. The X means "cross" bud, trust me. They are not making dedicated consoles anymore.
The NX might be too expensive for handheld gamers i remember back in 2011 when the 3DS wasn’t selling at $250 so Nintendo had to lower the price to $179,99 so the NX might be a disappointed for both handheld and home console gamers because one side wants the NX to be a home console atleast on par with PS4slim computing power and the other side wants the NX to be a affordable portable system just look at the WiiU it’s still $250 and that’s too expensive for a system that has no 3rd party support.
Some of you people are stupid as ####. "There are two candidate SoC for it: Pascal SoC from nVidia or AMD R9 SoC." Do you REALLY believe Nintendo is going to send the NX into mass production without having already decided on the MAIN PROCESSOR? BULLSHIT.
That's why I'm questioning everything. The uncertainty of which cpu/gpu makes me skeptical. They didn't know the innards of the device but some how know the power level?
No one bothered reading the comments section for this one; apparently the whole thing is a fake, made up by someone on a reddit-like chinese site, or something along those lines.
Whats worse is that some of the people here buying into this are the same people who bought into many of the other NX rumors that turned out to be fake, they just don't seem to learn.
@wonderfulmonkeyman- LMFAO! Like they made up PS4 Pro's specs and picture along with slim? Like they made up Scorpio? OH wait, those were actually real..... Maybe you best deal with reality on this one bud. The same folks leaking this, leaked out Pro, Slim, XBONE S and Scorpio. At this point, its just pure denial on your part bud and sad too. You seriously, legit can't take that this is likely real? Even with all the evidence based on the sources?
Have no interest for portability. That's what a cellphone is for, and I don't even use that much for it. If this rumor is true, it better be $199 or less, and even at $199 it's going to struggle against $299 dedicated consoles which are far more powerful, have a library, and get AAA 3rd party games. It's a handheld, not a console. You just can hook it up. Most of the games are still likely going to be FP16 mobile games and not FP32 console games. Which means, if you don't have a use for mobile handheld games like those on the 3DS, then it's basically another Wii U or actually worse. Wii U got a decent amount of 3rd party support for the first year. Games like Call of Duty, Splinter Cell: Blacklist, Resident Evil, Deus Ex, Need for Speed, Lego City undercover, Madden, Zombi U, Batman Arkham City, Mass Effect 3, Darksiders 2, NBA2k13, Assassin's Creed III. I don't think you'll get anywhere near that sort of high end AAA 3rd party support from NX. So yes, it's looking like another Wii U. As for Zelda, I'll just get it on my Wii U. Hopefully this rumor is false, but if it isn't, they've basically given up on consoles and focusing on handhelds with their usual IP's making up the bulk of the console type games on the machine.
The Foxconn artist so far was spot on with the PS4 Slim and the PS4 Pro.
@miyamoto- Buddy, Nintendo fanboys basically are in MASSIVE denial even with the source being spot on, on many....many leaks.
I agree, the NX might be too expensive for handheld gamers i remember back in 2011 when the 3DS wasn’t selling at $250 so Nintendo had to lower the price to $179,99 so the NX might be a disappointed for both handheld and home console gamers because one side wants the NX to be a home console atleast on par with PS4slim computing power and the other side wants the NX to be a affordable portable system just look at the WiiU it’s still $250 and that’s too expensive for a system that has no 3rd party support.
The quality of graphics seen on TLOZ: BOTW already gave the power of the NX away many months ago. To the power hungry gamer ... sorry for you nothing for you. Anyways ... before the PS4 even launched I wanted Sony to make a Portable PS4. Mark Cerny kinda did that with the PS Vita but the lack of Android OS integration kinda worked against it. It could have been better for the gamer if the PS Vita runs on Android games too like the NX will be doing.
lol. Sony (hires cLappers) to cheer for their casuaL gaming machines every E3 show, bro. They are pathetic. As a gamer, i still play all the goods. yet Sony is False power. :(
Yeah, but the idea of replacing the DS and allowing you to take games with you on the go, or play mobile games like a console is great. Imagine playing Breath of the Wild on your TV, picking up and leaving your house, all the while continuing to play. If you look at it more like the evolution of mobile gaming, it may work. It will not compete with consoles in and of itself.
This has been proven false ages ago and everyone here is still acting like it's true :/. Do you people do no research for yourself or do you just believe whatever appears in the windows on this website?
Crazy talk. Give me a 720p handheld all day. They are not looking to compete with PS4/XB1 from a raw power standpoint, no handheld will ever match that of an only-console. So pumped for this, with it actually being something different (Nintendo has to deliver as last two consoles were letdowns imo). I already have a Ps4 and Xb1 which share 90% of the same library, i dont need a third console to release the same games along with their 5 exclusives each year.
It doesnt need to be more powerfu but at least close. Since its not then 3rd party support is doa on cross platform games.
Nintendo doesn't push enough games, thus, enough software, back when power wasn't an issue, NES and SNES and N64 just reigned in 3rd-party games and 2nd-party games. Now, power is needed to make it so games made for PS4/Xbone can be ported over, but if it requires a lot of hassle to degrade it, or make it so optimization is worse for PS4/Xbone, many publishers will just say "Nah" as they did for Wii later in its life after seeing abysmal sales, and Wii U completely..... I don't know how NX is going to remedy this serious issue.
If this fails I hope they join forces with Sony...seriously I'd rather see a Nintendo-Playstation then them focusing on the mobile market Sony does the console Nintendo does the handheld Then we can get an ultimate Nintendo v Playstation Smash Bros game or Kart racing game.
i agree home console gamers and 3rd parties won't be happy about a weak console system and the NX might be too expensive for handheld gamers i remember back in 2011 when the 3DS was $250 it wasn't selling so Nintendo had to lower the price to $179,99 so the NX might be a disappointed for both handheld and home console gamers because one side wants it to be a powerful home console and the other side wants the NX to be a affordable portable system.
Falls far behind a PS4? I thought Nintendo would have wised-up since the Wii U how are they going to get third party developer support if it isn't powerful enough?
nintendo sweats anything sony does ? lol
well they put their game on non nintendo platform so the must be sweating
As evident by its sucking up to the mobile market.
Dragon Quest XI Sonic 2017 Ubisoft has games coming to it
Sonic franchise is dead already