An article about Microsofts failure in Japan, written by someone who actually lives in Japan!
PS3 gets the RPGs. There will be little interest in the 360 even after a huge price difference.
they possibly can in Japan. It's time they move on. After Wii, Ps3 will gets its moment to shine. If someone compares Wii to ps3 sales, then they miss the point completely.
This article is wrong "there doing horribly"
It's not doing well in Japan? I'm shocked. Is this really news though? It seems more like a personal observation. I'm going to bet there will be more insightful comments made here than the actual article. Save your clicking strength, I thought I needed to read the article before making a comment, but you don't, it says nothing new. FPS, RPG blah blah blah.
"They won't win this round, but I beet they will do a lot of business for the next generation." That exact statement was made with the Xbox1.
exactly... and the xbox 360 is doing 10 times better than the original xbox... not only that buy they managed to convince Japanese developer to support and make games for the xbox 360... hell... even FFXIII and Star Ocean are going to be on the xbox 360... So now... think about it... all the next xbox has to do is do 2-3 times better than the xbox 360 and they beat the $h!t out of playstation... not bad... unlike the PS2 that practically made the origignal xbox non-existent....
maybe in the distant future microsoft will win a console war.
Bladestar missed the part when they announced FF13 would only be released on the PS3 in Japan. Now tell me the Japanese are going to care about waiting for the game to launch in NA or Europe 6 months or 1 year later to import a copy for their 360 and find out it's not compatible with their Japanese xbox360 as well as not being able to read English.
The Xbox 1440 might actually have a fighting chance in Japan. Of course, hell will have frozen over and pigs will be airborne but anything is possible.... right?
At present in Japan they; Love the Wii Like the PS3 are Indifferent to the 360. Mind you a nation that loves dating games and train simulators is kinda worrying (tongue firmly in cheek).
and raises you lil boy butt replicas. and i say this because i've seen them O_O
They are doing better than before but in comparison to competition they are doing badly.
When it comes to this "console war", Japan isn't that much of a huge factor like what they used to be back in the PS2 days. They seem to have abandoned consoles altogether in favor of handhelds. The only big factors nowadays is the U.S. and Europe. And the trend, doesn't seem to end.
this article was approved. Its written poorly and factually incorrect. Microsoft is not just putting FPS's out in Japan its made concerted efforts to publish RPG's on the platform and currently has more RPG titles out for it than PS3. So its failing despite this. Also, drop the xenophobic sterotype of Japan. They *love* american stuff, like the ipod, for example. The first Xbox was soo wrong for japan which is another hurdle to overcome this gen. And reliability issues have also hurt the perception of the console over there. I thought this article was going to be some insightful anaylsis but its just some 12 year old makin stuff up.
Apperently it's doing so bad in Japan, that when it sells an extra 1000 units a week it's "Turning a corner!" We know. It's flatlining in Japan. Don't think there's much to be done about that.
i had no idea selling good amounts of units for 1 month then selling low amounts of units afterwards was doing good o.O this is japan this guy is talking about right? or a parallel dimension? i don't mean to sound insulting im just saying it the way it is
Not news.Xbox 360 will not suceed in Japan.But Microsoft will still try though
the idea is not for them to succeed and get the larger market share, the idea is to be competitive. I think there are doing great for an american console in Japan, better then any other in the past.
Name these other American-made consoles.
man, you do get my point don't you? and for the record, off the top of my head... Coleco Vision Xbox 1 3D0 (american design, Japanese production) Atari Jaguar Sega, was founded in Hawaii, but they had good success in Japan, so bad example I guess, lol All I'm saying is that they are doing OK. That's all I said. I don't care if they win or lose, I just want them to be competitive, then we all win, you guys keep on acting like one HAS to win. I keep on saying we just want our market to be competitive . There is a reason Frodo had to destroy the ring, or are you guys just to dense to understand that? brainwashed by this stupid console war. If one console rules them all, we all lose.
I had no idea this article was actually news worthy? Still trying to figure out what in this article was news and enlightening. lets save the MS and Japan articles for when there is actually something posted that we don't already know!
I don't think it's over yet and if Samsung does make the next XBOX then Japan will actually give it a shot. Agent 864 is right and hopefully for MS sake they can change the way they're viewed over seas. MS needs to keep pushing over there and pulling up games and exclusives which will eventually lead to system sales.
Already lost this round so waiting for next!?
Go screw yourself Mr I know the future. Anything can happen in the next 3 years even though Japan doesn't seem likely.
.But Microsoft will still try though dont know why?? who wants a unreliable console??? not me
yep, even I want to get one and the $199 price is good but I just want it for one game and that's GeOW I want to play both 1 and 2. What keeps me out of the 360 is the unreliability and paying for online, then comes the other problem, the $199 console don't have HDD.
so shocking to see an article under the 360 tab commented on by mostly ps3 exclusive owners. who would have thought ps3 fanboys would be trolling the 360 articles?
what happen when you type...www.n4g.com?
what is trolling?
i better ask my Japanese friends just to be sure. More likely i will get "its true, MS aint doing well"
The only way for the Xbox 360 to outsell the PS3 in Japan is if Final Fantasy XIII was a 360 exclusive, and that would have never happened because the Xbox consoles have never been well recieved by the Japanese audience and the majority of JRPG's sell really well in Japan and it would be stupid to make a game like FFXIII a 360 exclusive. Anyone that's rooting for Microsoft in Japan (Kotaku) had better cheer while they can because Infinite Undiscovery and Star Ocean 4 will give the 360 another little boost, but in March 2009 when those Final Fantasy PS3 bundles come out, it will be pretty much over for the 360 in Japan. The Xbox 360 most likely wont even reach a million units sold in Japan during it's lifecycle... it's been nearly 3 years since the 360 launch in Japan and has had plenty of JRPG's, yet the PS3 had no big JRPG's and it still outsold the 360 in Japan by more than double... it's obvious the Japanese just don't like the Xbox no matter what Microsoft does.
Who cares japanese people are weird anyway.They like game where you try to set up tour dates for your band and your the agent. There losers but i do have a japan account on my xbox live and they play the crap out of halo3. so for him to say that it makes them sick to play fps hes crazy.Is that all they have is ffxlll who cares no skill in that. i use to like a good rpg but now they suck to much time out of my life.If its not online i dont play it. i like to play with my friends and family. so let them have there wii and there ps3.
Why japanese hate Microsoft xbox360 ? because its americans :))
once the ps3 gets more rpgs the 360's main function will be to heat houses.
That's the main function of the '360 in my house. I only use my PC to play games on anymore. Consoles are firmly back into the "Meh" sector of the market, anyone who can buy a PC: Should buy a PC
It's cuz no one wants that console period. PS3 has the best games, best graphics, great online, it's customizable, and it's blu-ray what more can you ask for. F*** the 360 it's all about Playstation it's always been that way and it always will be. Europeans like Sony as well. So the one thing Microsoft can do to help them in this console war is please the Americans in other words me. Well even then FPS games are good but that's the only type of games that the Xbox has to offer. I hate their RPGs, controller sucks, XBL is a rip off, isn't compatible w/ other things, and it's unreliable. Get yourself a PS3 for your next gen gaming, a Wii for your casual gaming, and a PSP for your on the go gaming.
*claps* another fantart that thinks consoles are big Robots in the sky fighting with there big lasers. the console wars look like this to you I bet, closest thing to sex up until now?
well i hate them too :))))
Apparently the author doesn't get it, just because American's find something entertaining doesn't mean everyone, every where is going to as well, but isn't that the problem; how predicably egotistical and nationalist of the author to simply dismiss Japanese gamers as nothing more than misguided? The Xbox 360 is just soooooo great and Microsoft is sooooooo perfect, that ALL people in Japan must be suffering motion sickness (its not like 360's library is full of nothing more than FPS right?) and forget that most non-hardcore gamers even in USA complain of disorintation from play FPS. I can already see this guy walking around Japan with a cowboy hat, and the words 'God loves America and nobody else' on his read white and blue shirt. First of all not all Japanese like RPG, just like not all Americans are pompous, racist, self absorbed jerks (I mean except the author). This author makes an outrageous claim that Japan is not Microsoft's target audience... nothing could be further from the truth. Microsoft has spent tons of money on RPG exclusive, hardware discounts and advertisement, but according to the author Microsoft just likes to throw away money in Japan. Then there is the unproven, unfounded opinion that Japanese don't like the 360 because is an American product. Many Japanese are facinated with American culture, even more the PS3 is not doing so hot either. Japanese gamers may not view video games the way many Americans do, but I doubt is has anything to do with them being facists. Maybe the problem isn't Japan, maybe it has something to do with Americans preoccupation with murdering people in a simulater. Don't get me wrong I am FPS person, but I can atleast understand it's not for everyone, and I don't go off blaming people for not liking FPS as if they broke a commandment or something. Xbox 360 is not doing well and instead of this Xbox 360 fanatic just sucking it up and conceding defeat, the author rather insult Japan's gamers by labeling all Japanese as imperial, motion sick, people who just 'don't get it'.
still not sell well in japan they are just like that...
But Japanese People are boycoting non-japanese products. Wii and Ps3 are both japanese products bot Xbox360 is not!
No they aren't. You just don't understand because you aren't Japanese. Different people from different countries have different requirements from their consume goods. Like the majority of Japanese not liking FPSs. Japanese are a proud nation and like reliable well built products. That's why they go for Sony and Nintendo. That's also why they don't buy US cars or US cell phones. Europeans like asthetically pleasing products which is why we buy Sony and Nintendo. And also why we don't buy US cars. We like stuff to look nice. American's like economy. Cars that are cheaply made and go a long way on gas. Like the 360. Sure it's ugly and it has a high failure rate, BUT it has a really high level of technology for a cheap price. Japanese aren't boycotting MS. MS isn't providing an experience that the japanese want.
Some games are releasing for both Ps3 & xbox360 But they buy ps3 versions although Ps3 version is technically worse. There are so many japanese RPGs out for Xbox360, Xbox360 has many good JRPG's but Ps3 is selling in Japan with NO RPGs!
"How can you explain this. Some games are releasing for both Ps3 & xbox360 But they buy ps3 versions although Ps3 version is technically worse." Are you listening to me? Does having a slightly better 360 version of a game, make the XBox 360 a more reliable piece of hardware? No, it doesn't. Just because you don't understand why Japanese people like what they like, doesn't mean they are boycotting US products. Obviously the Japanese know what the Japanese want. The 360 is SUCH a stereotypical US product. Poorly manufactured and ugly design. BUT really high quality of Service (XBox Live, Extended Warranty with fast despatch of replaced unit.) You can't fault US service - I notice how much better you guys are than the rest of the world when I speak to US clients. US service is king and that is really important to you - and I respect that. But you have to respect that Japanese like their gadgets. Blu-ray, reliability, manufacturing quality.
Firstly i'm not a fan. I've Ps2 and 100+ games and xbox1 200+ Games, Xbox360 + 90+ Games. I'm using Xbox360 very carefully and i've not screwed it up since April 2006. and you say Xbox360 is poorly designed ugly console? Smaller than Ps3 and change-able faceplates, much better gamepad and features. Ok i listened you enough, you are a fan Good Luck ...
"Xbox360 is poorly designed ugly console?" - I never said that. I wouldn't say that either, because the 360 controller is better designed than the sixaxis. I am talking purely about asthetics. I said: "Poorly manufactured and ugly design." "Smaller than Ps3" - doesn't make it pretty does it. "and change-able faceplates" why is that a good thing? Being able to pimp out a product is not a sign of quality. See Pimp my ride for evidence of ugly creations. "Ok i listened you enough, you are a fan" - if living in denial helps you sleep at night then so be it, just don't pretend I've written something that I blatantly haven't in order to justify your arguments. I can't believe you call me a fan when you are arguing against something I haven't even written.
i guess that's why their HD tvs breakdown so easily. oh...and the ps2 failure rate was HUGE. and even if the system didn't break (which you got lucky if you only ever owned one ps2), the dvd playback function would lose audio/video sync after a few months of use. and come on...you can't tell me you actually think the ps3 has a cooler design than the 360. it's just a lump. it looks like a george foreman grill
You can believe it or not, none of my work colleague in Japan nor majority of my friends and their kids in Japan even interested in buying Microsoft xbox 360. But the thing is, they are waiting for SONY to release some RPG before they bought PS3, now they content with playing DS and PSP. Surprisingly my friends still playing their dreamcast :) I know lot's of people in Japan as i am half Japanesse. Though, my western friends in Japan (mostly from the US ARMY and some ex pats, they purchase xbox 360 for the FPS). I think majority of the xbox 360 sales are from Okinawa where the US Army based is located.
what the guy is talking about, he said japanese ppl stick to there own meaning if whatever the case is they are gonna back it up. u won't see a person driving a corvette in japanese however, u will see Nissan & Toyota there.
No offense, but you don't see many people in Europe driving corvettes either and that is because they are bloody ugly! Sorry that is a little harsh But unfortunately Corvettes just can't compete "asthetically" with Audi R8s, Aston Martins, Ferraris, Lambourghinis, Bugattis, Porsches, BMWs, Lotuss, Mazeratis, Pagani Zondas, Koenigseggs, McClarens etc. etc. etc. etc..... We're spoilt by lots of pretty (well manufactured) cars here.
I know. I was saying that it isn't fair to use Corvette as an example of Japanese not wanting a US product, because it isn't just the Japanese that don't want corvettes. We don't want them here in Europe either. Are there other countries other than the US that would want to buy a corvette? A 1957 Corvette - certainly - they were great looking cars then. Not a modern one though.
I don't think Japan will matter much at all next gen, just the jpn devs and they are already looking for business in the states so that says something, that says alot of japan isn't buying games much anymore, or at least not nearly as much as everyone else, so will Japan even matter next gen? My crystal ball says nope. No disrespect to Japanese gamers, I am not saying you won't matter, but it won't matter if MS succeeds in Japan anymore because the rest of the world are taking gaming to another level with their spending habits, while Japan seems to be in love with mobile gaming and portable gaming. Is Japan getting bored of console gaming? Maybe.
I'm a bit skeptical about this guy's claims that MS will do well next generation in Japan. However, if this does turn out to be the case and the Japanese gamer market starts to embrace things like the FPS genre I can only see this being a positive move. More Japanese developers producing FPS titles and similar type games would probably be a breath of fresh air, inducing some sorely needed innovation and bringing with it the usual quirkiness that Japan does so well. A variety of choice is never a bad thing.
Halo hype put Xbox on the map a great selling game in America that was hyped so much because it was an out of the blue outstanding game and lasted as one of the first games on the Xbox and remained the #1 game throughout the life of the xbox. People have to understand that the only real difference between last gen and this gen for xbox is graphics, gears, and japanese third party support. Which is not a little change all of that is significant. Truth is there is nothing really different between them other than that. But what they have done is got alot of TV ads and great marketing behind their big games unlike Sony who needs it and Nintendo which at the moment does not need it. I think that the 360 will not make a real dent this gen but next gen will be a different story they will provide better development tools than this gen copy everything that the others are doing well and hopefully this time innovate in some way to bring in the casual Wii gamers. I see nothing coming from M$ this gen but just getting there name known for making games and having a system. They will go for the jugguler next gen.
In all honesty, I thought this would have been a longer fight. I thought Microsoft was going to be neck and neck with PS3 until it's exit moment. I was sorely mistaken.
...That everyone in the link's pic that's looking at the 360 is wearing green? I'm not trying start stuff, but are they plain-clothes Microsoft workers trying to draw a crowd by pretending to be interested? Just kinda wierd, I guess.
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