It appears as if the old punk-rock band Green Day has complained about violent video games and MMA fights to Kerrang. So this is my (Robin Ek, TGG) take on the matter.
I agree about this article. Green Day hasn't been revelant since.There is difference between fiction and reality. Before you disagree me, video game don't make people violence but other people who have low mentally issue and can't control themselves. Most people would agree with me that is parents fault for not educated their children enough. When I was child, I had mental problems but thank to my parents for educated me. I can see the difference. The only thing I can worry about playing video game is the health safety. Playing video game too long could cause people tired or brain damage. Like I said, video game never make people violence.
Thanks =) I´m glad to hear that you enjoyed my article ;) Yes, and if one can´t tell the difference between reality and fiction, then it´s time for that person to seek mental help asap. Correct, and my parents did a great job with me and my brothers (we weren´t allowed to play games that weren't meant for us to play due to our young age). Yes, people have even died from playing too much video games (I think it was a Wow or Starcraft player the last time that it happened?). However, that could be said about anything really. As too much of anything is most of the time not a good idea.
Yes, I agree with you. Like I said, the only I worry about people playing video game. It's people health especially a person who has unstable mind and need a treatment ASAP. And also, there are some young age people who play violence video game are not affect this because these people are lucky to have parents who know how to teach their children well.
TGG_overlord, it feels like the title of your article is asking me a question : D So, my answer would be: I don't know. Also, you make a lot of sense. Thank you for being sensible : )
They died from a clot just like you can from sitting in one place to long fling,driving,etc nothing that the games caused.
I never liked Green Day, and I can´t say that I like them more now. Imo, they are just a trio of old ex-rockers that drop moral tantrums like some elderly ladies at the mall.
Hey man, there are some smart elderly ladies with some perfect valid moral input...Unlike Green Day.
Should we even care what Green Day thinks. I mean they compose songs like "Wake Me Up When September Ends". When they got millions of teens watching them. Doesn't make sence for them to be "worried" about "violence in video games".
I'm not really sure what makes Green Day relevant to write an article about how they are worried about video games. Who cares? They can worry about it....it's their prerogative just like we can not worry about it. I mean, I am free to say how I feel the homogenization of modern pop/rock music is detrimental to the philosophical growth of the human spirit as a whole because it offers up no diversity to support the expanding of free thinking among today's youth when they are most susceptible to forming their future outlooks. It doesn't mean my opinion is worth validating with an article or attention just because I said it, anymore than it's worth it for an article to do it for Green Day just because they're musicians. Unless they go on some campaign that extends outside their fan base who may give their opinion some sort of respect due to their status(Like Jenny McCarthy and vaccinations), I don't see the issue. For those who would follow that campaign blindly just because it's from a group they respect or like....well those people are just idiots who have no real critical thinking skills to determine their own stance, or bother to take the time to actually learn anything worthwhile. @The 10th Some of those elderly ladies could probably beat the crap out of Green Day while they are so distracted by the violence in video games.
American Idiot is perhaps even more relevant today than when it was first released, just watch the US election coverage. The US is heading for full blown idiocracy.
Yep, how many of my fellow Democrats protested against Bush, only to love the fact Obama (and perhaps soon Hillary) is doing the same things? Q: You mean you hated Bush when he invades the wrong country, lets wall street run roughshot, outsources jobs, spying, droning, giving police military equipment, etc, etc???.... (and this list really does go on and on and on) A: YEAH!!!! I hate that guy. We need to impeach him. Q: Well, Hillary and Obama support the same things A: I love them! They are the best eva! Idiocracy is already here.
I find it funny how most Americans think they have left and right wing parties when in fact there are just two right wing parties, with one being just a bit more right than the other. Even Sanders would only be a centrist at best by world standards.
Green Day was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame last year. Their new single "Bang Bang" came out 2 weeks ago, awesome fast punk rock song. Their new album comes out in October, and announcing a tour soon. They have a Broadway show based on American Idiot which has won numerous awards and been a huge hit. The band has sold over 75 million albums, and people still talk about their albums today especially Dookie and American Idiot. Not to mention the countless number of bands they have influenced (along with Blink-182 and New Found Glory) but you say not relevant >_> Wish someone who actually cared about Green Day wrote this article, as a fan had a really hard time reading this.
It's not easy to hear them say that. Look, all we have to do is move on and find a better solution.
Of all the bands out there, Green Day is one of the ones I like more. Doesn't mean their opinion is of any more importance on the topic at hand....at least beyond the fact they have it. Not that they can't express it, or even talk about it, but I don't feel their status or relevancy should give their opinion more weight than anyone else who may speak on it in a hyperbolic fashion....which is most who speak on being worried about it.
Green Day has never been relevant. They're only famous do to who they know.
You are an idiot. Plain and simple. Green Day is one of the most influential bands since the late 80's until today. Are they as influential to rock as the likes of the Beatles, Van Halen, Hendrix, Presley, Kraftwerk, Velvet Underground, Bowie, Dylan, and of course the Sex Pistols? No, probably not. But, their contribution and influence to rock is as important as U2, Lynrd Synkrd, ACDC, Cream, Nirvana, the Clash, Prince or the Rolling Stones among others of that stature. Almost every significant alternative rock band (not that Bieber crap you problem listen to) has been influenced or influenced by a band that was.
GD was made popular by Seinfeld. GD is famous for the same reasons the Beastie Boys were. You should slap yourself in the face for even putting them in the same list as those other actual artist.
Were is the study you seen saying gaming to long can cause brain damage
Doom is FPS game and it is violence,but I played the game and it didn't affect me because it's fictional. It's video game goddamit.
Same here, and I´ve been playing games since 1988...
1991 in my case, and I sure haven´t killed anyone yet ;)
If a person can kill another human being just like that, then it would make any difference of the killer played games or not. As the person is clearly lacking both morals and a normal functional mindset.
Like I said, people who has low morals and unstable mind. They need a treatment ASAP. Edit :@Pintheshadows It is not. Those people who is lack of morality and unstable mindset only affect by video game if they are not strong enough to control themselves.
You say that, but are you not a full blown sorcerer now after being taught by Simon the Sorcerer? Games affect lives.
Yeah, I used to play Turok and Duke Nukem and I'm not losing my head.
Well, you haven't experienced a traumatic childhood that led to mental issues and insecurity yet. When that happens, we'll know now what to blame. [J/K]
Yea, the traumatic childhood that led the mental issues and insecurity..... This is a joke right?
Dealing like issues like that is a lot harder than just finding a easy thing to blame like video games.
Yes its fictional, I read what Green Day and their concern isnt violence in a fictional frame, their concern is that the line between fiction/fantasy and reality is being blurred by devs.
@TwoForce "Yes, I agree with you. Like I said, the only I worry about people playing video game. It's people health especially a person who has unstable mind and need a treatment ASAP. And also, there are some young age people who play violence video game are not affect this because these people are lucky to have parents who know how to teach their children well." Exactly, and crazy and evil people have existed far longer than video games have...
Yeah, video games are not the problem. Green day should stick to music. If they want to worry about something perhaps the impact of drugs on youth and crime in general. Or corruption in politics. Or greed and capitalism running rampant. But yeah, poor people, immigrants, and video games are the real issues in the world. Just see Fox news if you don't believe me.
Pathetic from Green Day. I'm sure they don't like it when people say that their music makes people want to cut themselves and hurt others, so you would think they would know better than to bring out this tired old argument about games.
They haven't been revelant since.
Nope, last album dropped over four years ago. And they went down hill after the late 90s and early 2000s.
Nope, imo, their "relevance" died out by the late 90s. In the matter of fact, I haven´t heard one single song by them on radio for the last eight years or so.
They´ve got a new album coming up, and that´s THE only reason that they attacked MMA and games (Mmmm, free PR).
Kind of little bit off topic, What about Skillet ?
What about them? Did Skillet say something?
I don´t think their bs statement about violent video games and MMA will help them sell more records (on the contrary), but I guess that they are too stupid to realize that?
I doubt they really care at this point, I'm sure they have more than enough money that it makes no difference. They can write whatever they want rather than what will sell.
Exactly, back in the day people made arguments that punk, rock and metal was a catalyst for violence. It seems hypocritical that they would use the same argument for video games.
Take that even further back and Beethoven was considered violent by some classical critics. Society, as a whole, really likes to look outwardly for answers that often point directly at the members individually.
And MMA as well. "I'm supposed to eat in a restaurant watching two people kick the shit out of each other?". Don't go to a restaurant with a bar on fight night, dumbass. People go to the bar so they don't have to spend 100 dollars on a payperview.
Things like hatred, racism and religon start violence.
Yes, but it´s way easier to blame all of that on video games instead.
Edit: Ops. My bad i didnt read your comment properly...
@IndominusRex Agreed. I would say fear is what starts hatred like racism and homophobia etc. And from that we get violence.
No, the people at the top start the violence. They use what you described (hatred, racism, and religion) to get the plebs to buy into committing that violence.
Simple-minded people use hatred, racism, and religion as an excuse for violence.
Islam is a religion of peace.
Chrisrianity is as well, right? Oh Wait..
@TwoForce "Kind of little bit off topic, What about Skillet?" What about them? Have they also said something about video game violence?
The press, the media and the politics? As they use people like Green Day to push the agenda that violent video games are bad.
Wake me up when September ends.
Or when Green Day has stopped to whine ;)
Just in time for the election? Better to stay asleep
If this is really true then they are idiots. Can they explain how violent pol pot, al capone, hitler and attila the hun is? Maybe they have videogames at their time we dont know yet? Probably playstation zero and xbox zero. Typical, if anything goes wrong blame it on videogames. I have been playing games since NES and got a chance to play GTA 3 when it came out and so does my siblings and friends. Are they violent killers? No, the human being is alone responsible for what he does.
PlayStation negative? Maybe they had whatever Nintendo was making at the time.
American idiots??? 😀
Wonder what they'd say to the people who say that pot causes people to be violent. Bet they'd laugh that off as ignorant pretty quick and be able to offer up all sorts of reasons why it doesn't....some even scientific because you can always count on a pothead to understand the actual science on why it's untrue. Sometimes people can't see that their BS is the same BS they'd ignore and be able to find facts that completely refute it.
Sigh, so the blame anything but yourself culture continues.
Exactly, but it´s way easier to blame everything on games and gamers instead...
Many people, including myself, worry about men over forty who still wear mascara and deface the punk genre.
I think any sane person should be worried about men that're over forty years old who still wear mascara and deface the punk genre ;)
Do you have the time to listen to me whine about nothing and everything at once.
Says the rock band?
"Punk band", but in my opinion, Green Day is nothing more than an emo/fake wannabe punk band.
Are you worried about violent rock music? ;)