Expert states the obvious: Blu-ray won't last

Jolt reports: "It's a debate perhaps most heavily contested on UK games forum Rllmuk, but it appears it's finally beginning to catch on with the academics out there; just when will Sony's Blu-ray be superseded by digital downloads?
Academy of Interactive Arts and Sciences president Joseph Olin believes the succession between HD discs and HD downloads on our favourite games consoles isn't far off, going as far as to suggest that time is ticking away for the PS3.

"I look at Blu-ray being the obvious short-term differentiator, but if everything goes to digital download - and over time, it will - then the Blu-ray device no longer has the same competitive advantage, or the benefit is not as strong as the feature is," he told the site."

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ErcsYou3674d ago

Digital downloads sound like a good idea but our IP's wont allow it. Say hello to the bandwidth cap.

facepalm3673d ago

::nods head:: Although some caps (250GB for Comcast) are not as bad as others (testing 40GB for Time Warner)...

Thank God I have FiOS...

MAR-TYR-DOM3673d ago

I LIVE IN CANADA. If you dont know already, the fastest internet connection i can get is 10MB connection AND IT COSTS $50 (ROGERS). I have a 1MB connection and our cap is 20GB. If i wanted to i couldnt reach the cap with my connection speeds.

Overr8ed3673d ago

Blu-ray isnt going to die for a long time, it should be buy 2012 in which Blu-ray may become dead. DL is good but most people dosent have fast internet.

NegativeCreep4273673d ago (Edited 3673d ago )

but my and many other's principle point to contest this experts prediction is that no matter what a great portion of the movie industry's consumer base will always demand hard, tangible copies of their movie collections. Having you're whole HD movie archive in you're computer's harddrive is more convenient in a certain sense, but the concerns of one day losing you're entire collection merely because of a virus or mishap will always be in the back of people's minds.

"Olin believes the succession between HD discs and HD downloads on our favorite games consoles isn't far off, going as far as to suggest that time is ticking away for the PS3."

The time for the PS3 is ticking away as well? So this "expert" not only believes digital downloads will be the downfall of Blu-Ray but also the downfall of the PS3 console? What kind of expert is he really? A fanboy who calls himself an expert?

DTClown3673d ago

I bet if you went to this "experts" house, you would find a slew of DVD's in his personal library with not one movie transfered to a hard drive. It's funny how every so called expert that claims DDL will make optical media fade away never seems to be in touch with us actual consumers who say the opposite!

Listen up experts, I will NEVER want my movie library on a hard drive. PERIOD! If the so called experts out there didn't quite get that, please re-read my previous comment.

CrazzyMan3673d ago

Even though, these are not the largest markets TODAY, but they are growing pretty fast.

mr_saturn3673d ago

DD's sound great on paper but right now it's jumping the gun to say that it'll take over soon. The U.S. has the slowest internet compared to a lot of other places in the world.

For tv shows, an episodes is relatively small but for SD movies/HD movies that's gonna take a long time to get. I'd rather have a hard copy.

deeznuts3673d ago

I didn't buy my multiple HD displays for them to be rendered useless because I'm downloading 1080p movies with crap bitrates that get exposed on a nice display.

Even 1080p from cable companies and DirecTV pale in comparison to the quality of Blu-ray. These guys can't even tackle the argument of bitrates, all they see is 1080p. How can we trust them?

Physical discs will always be important. Plus, who doesn't grab a movie or rent one, and waltz over to a gf's or a friends house to watch it? What now, gotta lug a HDD or a computer over there? Absurd.

Agent VX3673d ago

"I LIVE IN CANADA. If you dont know already, the fastest internet connection i can get is 10MB connection AND IT COSTS $50 (ROGERS). I have a 1MB connection and our cap is 20GB. If i wanted to i couldnt reach the cap with my connection speeds." - MAR-TYR-DOM

Wow!!! That sucks for you Eastern Canucks. For us out in Western Canada, Shaw offers 25MB download, 1MB upload connections, with a 150GB cap.

But, then again, Eastern Canada is the hicks of Canada, nothing exciting happens in Eastern Canada.

Peow3673d ago

I have a 6mbps connection for 80 bucks a month in the states of all places. How do you think I feel?

The only benefit is no upload cap.

Fowack3673d ago

LOL ps3 runs great online with those speeds

And when i say eastern i meen nova scotia. Also dude say bubi to a bubble, It's not cool to hate on a fellow canuck.

MNicholas3673d ago

He obviously doesnt understand the problems with bandwidth, network congestion, and storage, all of which present problems for downloadable HD movies impacting everything from visual quality (too much compression) to usability (when/where/how it can be viewed and how often).

The Lazy One3673d ago

DD isn't going to work like DVDs or blu-rays today. People will probably do something like netflix or on demand at a lower price. You won't purchase data anymore. You will purchase rights to data.

You lose the HD, you download again. You rent movies for a quarter a watch or something like that. Stream in at least standard definition as it stands now, and we're on the verge of a bandwidth explosion once fiber optics start replacing the infrastructure.

DD is not as far away as you think. I already watch around 70% of my favorite shows and movies on hulu or surfthechannel.

Blu-rays will be for collectors, not people looking for a casual movie to watch.

sloth4urluv3673d ago

Yeah, just like nobody would ever buy there music over the internet. iTunes would never work.

DDLs will become more of a reality as faster connections become more common. Still a few years off, but i would love to be able to purchase my movies online. I still say Valve's Steam is a great example, whenever possible I prefer to purchase my games on there now. I dont need to worry about discs or cdkeys, just log into my account and i can install my games anywhere.

sumfood4u3673d ago (Edited 3673d ago )

Are these the Same Genius Experts who said the End of the World was in 2000 an brought Truck Loads of water bottles an batteries? If so then need to Quit working for Miss Cleo! Their Future looks Grim!

waltercross3673d ago (Edited 3673d ago )

I Don't think Digital DL's will replace Hard copies
anytime soon, first Hard drives will need to be much
bigger in size, this would have to be the norm, Then these
huge hard drives would have to be pretty low in price.

Also dling a huge file is not the best thing to do, since anything
can happen during the DLing.

Only benifit is Instead of a $60 game it could be $30, Since
the Developer does not have to worry about hard copies.

DaTruth3673d ago (Edited 3673d ago )

First thing I do when I download a HD movie over the net is put it on a disk. Take it to a friends house, fast transfer between devices and more. Too many reasons to have a physical copy. #1 reason I don't like psn downloads is because they're not portable. I'm waiting for Siren to come out on disk or I'm not getting it.

At Waltercross: And if you look at DD music the price is no less then the CD music song for song.

LastDance3673d ago

Blu ray is going to COMPLIMENT DD if anything.

I live in australia..and i downloaded Red Alert a week ago off the psn store. took me - and im not effing kidding - 36 hours straight to download almost a 1 gig file.

perseus3673d ago (Edited 3673d ago )

Sorry to hear that, dude. I get 1GB in about 10 minutes in Japan. Are you out in the middle of nowhere?

Thugbot1873673d ago

I don’t see BLU RAY having a long fruitful life like the DVD or VHS. BLURAY it’s coming at a time where there are so many competing optical disc and other technologies. While BLURAY offers more capacity than DVD-9 or HD-DVD 50GB, 200GB just isn’t much of a gain when you consider other technologies coming out in the next couple years. TeraDisk 1TB - , Holographic Versatile Disc 3.9TB - 3D optical data storage Terabyte-level , Protein-coated disc 50TB

The real question should be what will happen with BLURAY when these other technologies come out? Remember these optical disc technologies have other applications then just movies such as computer backup and storage. Currently BLURAY doesn’t offer the capacity to backup my TB drive but some of these other technologies do.

Vanka3673d ago

"Wow!!! That sucks for you Eastern Canucks. For us out in Western Canada, Shaw offers 25MB download, 1MB upload connections, with a 150GB cap."

With your 150Gb cap you could download 3-5 Blu-ray quality movies. That's not enough by a long shot.

Charlie26883673d ago

@Thugbot187: "The real question should be what will happen with BLURAY when these other technologies come out?"

the same thing that happened to other superior versions of the existing tech that weren't massively supported...they went the way of the Dodo despite being more technologically advance

unless the big corporations are behind it doesnt really matter if they are massively better they will simply NOT succeeded some of them might never even see a mainstream launch to the general public others will end up being sold online only as novelties to tech geeks

You are also forgetting that right now the big corporations have BIG investments in Blu Ray and they will protect those investments the same way in the past corporations protected other investments despite new and more revolutionary tech being available

btw you should actually read the links your provided (among others in the "next gen" storage formats) to see how the majority will never see the light of day beyond a lab, others being actually theory more than practice and finally how some have there "latest" development info being a couple of years old

at the end its nice to wish and dream of bigger storage and all but sadly you want it or not it ALL sums up to corporations, there money and there interests

AAACE53673d ago

Digital downloads won't become the primary until we have HDD's with excessive space... Like 5-10 Tb HDD's.

If Blu-ray is to be threatened by anything in the near future, it could be HVD. But with alot of people switching from DVD to Blu-ray... I don't think people are willing to switch again so soon!

madjedi3673d ago (Edited 3673d ago )

@thugbot You do know that this article is about downloaded movies and blu ray movies, not data backup.

The terabyte disc sounds reasonable, what will the drive and the discs cost i am curious.

But don't they already have a 600-800+ gig disc coming out that is very closely to the same tech blu ray uses. And they only need a different lens to read it and the cost is supposed to be about the same as a blu ray drive is.

And with other 2 discs you mention, they come out when at what price tag for each burner/disc. 1 Terabyte drives will relatively be cheap as hell before either disc is out and at a cost that is reasonable to the mainstream.

@aaace5 hvd and other higher capacity discs will be pointless as a movie format for some time probably 7-15 yrs for a very simple reason, tv resolution.

Okay currently consumer tvs play at a max resolution of 1080p, blu rays run at 1080p(the highest resolution content plays at atm that i know of, movie theatres or the imax excluded) on either a 25 or 50 gig blu ray disc.

So why would increasing the capacity of the disc do any good if the content is running at the same resolution?

Until tv resolution starts making some serious jumps and the mainstream consumer starts upgrading their tvs again, blu ray is more than adaquete for hd movies.

monfa3673d ago

Here in Toronto Canada we have 2 providers , Rogers cable and Bell Canada , Bell I think always had a cap and Rogers just added (with the increase of DDs of course) a 60GB cap on my 6mbit connection.
Assuming that most providers will want a piece of the pie they will be adding caps and charge for extra.
Good luck with this Digital Download being the future....

Fox013673d ago

America isn't the center of the world (ok it is). countries like S.Corea, Japan France etc have more than 100MB/s internet connection speed. I don't see digital download being a problem there.

The Lazy One3673d ago

If the government started maintaining the internet infrastructure more instead of giving ISPs the responsibility to, bandwidth could literally explode. In a matter of months, any minor population center could have speeds comparable to the best connections in the rest of the world.

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Liquid Dust3674d ago

Internet has to majorly catch up in order for digital downloading or content such as HD movies to really catch on. Im not going to wait hours on end to download Pirates of the Carribean in HD and have it take 4gb+ on a hard drive. Of course this mostly applies to USA since we have such lathargic internet speeds compared to that of Japan where they can download a movie in minutes.

But I think BluRay is here to stay for a while

badz1493673d ago

4GB+? Pirate of Carribean? HD? that's not even a single layer DVD size! HD will take way more space than that! if HD movies are only around 4GB+, internet caps won't even matter that much and DD will have already took off years ago.

orakga3673d ago

You get bubbles for your Avatar. LiquidFei FTW.

That said, here's what I do with my video consumption:

1) Drama (chick-flicks) and Non-action movies get rented on Amazon Unbox (best DD service around IMO) for $4.99. I only get to watch it once, but considering the convenience (5 minute buffering, and you can choose ANY movie from Amazon's catalog), it's a great way to watch a movie over dinner.

2) Action, CG-heavy movies or Classics (like Pixar stuff or movies like The Fugitive) get ordered second-hand on eBay or Amazon at $15-20 per disc. If I don't like it, I put it right back on eBay for $15-20 again. Shipping costs considered, I end up paying $5 for the whole process.

My point is that DD is NOT cheaper by any means. It's certainly hella convenient (buffering technology has come a long way, guys), but Blu Ray is ALREADY a very economic option for movie-consumers, if you can wait a week for the disc to get shipped to you.

Too bad these "experts" don't even own their own players to make an informed judgement of Blu Ray. If only they knew what they were missing... they wouldn't be embarrassing themselves like this on a daily basis.

Ju3673d ago (Edited 3673d ago )

2 days. I am waiting two days for a disk. I get it, watch it, drop it of at our companies mail box, where it gets collected and within 3 days I have a new movie (1 day return, 1 processing, 1 receiving). PSN download takes a day. The thing is, I can watch 2 disks a week that way for $9.90 flat a month. PSN HD (which is 720p, not 1080) takes a day to download (well, something from 4-8 hours for 5-6GB) and costs $6 each. What's it gonna be ? Let me add, I do have a 8MB/sec line now.

Proxy3673d ago

All this talk of DD, but at the same time internet providers are placing caps on service. Reality dosn't agree with the theory.

Also, all when HD-DVD was around there was a new "HDDVD and Bluray will co-exist!" article every day. It appears that when a co-existance is truely possible (DD and Bluray) that everyone has now forgotten that co-existing is more than possible.

Vanka3673d ago

If you're happy with the quality you get from a bitstarved 720p crap encode, just stick to DVD.

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Cajun Chicken3673d ago

a 'short life' equal to the life of DVD.

SpecialSauce3673d ago (Edited 3673d ago )

but i think it will last about 10 years. digital dwn load is great, but some people will prefer having the CD and the case. plus digital dwn load will have certain limitations like u cant sell it or let people borrow it

pixelsword3673d ago

Like, er, um...

Movie Projector film, VCR cassettes, Laser Discs, and DVD?


Shane Kim3673d ago

This will only work when we have storage space of 10TB and a connection speed that'll download at 500mb/s. I was going to download Matrix in HD the other day and to my surprise, the file was on 18GB. So I bought it instead.

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CrippleH3673d ago

Bandwidth cap, 3 MBPS connection still, no coast to coast fiber optics networking yet, and we're still paying $50 for 3 mbps and more for a little speed boost(Comcast) imagine fiber optics $100?

fear883673d ago

This expert somehow forgot that Xbox 360 exist. I guess he thinks that because the Xbox 360 has a 120 GB maximum hard drive, and DVD drive, that it's success is not in danger of either, blu-ray, or digital downloads.

Yet the PS3 has blu-ray and is still capable of reading future blu-rays up to 1TB in capacity and a sweet sata 2.5" drive, which not only is it capable of up to 1TB of information and more but with the right accessory you can attach a 3.5" sata drive.

Hmmm, so PS3 is doomed to failure with advanced technology, while Xbox 360 will sail through this with its already obsolete technology and proprietary connections.

Firstkn1ghT3673d ago

Sounds like most experts are saying what I been saying for a long time now. Bluray will only be for the hardcore videophiles. Just like how Laser Disc was.

Cajun Chicken3673d ago

OR people that like getting more than just a movie. For example, I have still not seen any film download based legal service that support subtitles, directors commentary, making of, deleted scenes and other features.

I also like having a well designed cover and a library of my titles to store on a shelf so people can see my taste of movies and TV series as soon as they walk in my room.
Another factor is the second-hand market, Blu-Ray will sell second-hand. Digital Downloads won't, just like how you can't sell on iTune or MP3 albums at a shop.
Not everyone has the internet yet. Yes, a lot of people DO. But not everyone has.
The internet is not a requirement for most homes like Television is in this day of age.

The question is; Do experts want to kill the high street more than the internet has already?
The answer is...YES.

butterfinger3673d ago

If you think Blu Ray is like laser disc then you must be living in 2006. Digital downloads will not be a factor in the United States until at least 3-5 years from now. Instead of preparing the internet for DD, companies in the US are capping bandwith now or looking into ways they can cap it properly. Saying that digital downloads are the future definitely does not put you on par with an expert, it just makes it look like you are taking a ridiculously safe bet. Don't hate on blu ray just because you don't have a PS3.

TheExecutive3673d ago

These are honests questions, no sarcasm intended.

1.) How can we expect an ISP to support massive digital distribution of movies?

2.) IF the ISP's do somehow support massive amounts of DD to the customer what cost do you think it would be to the consumer? $100 a month? $150 a month?

I would like to expand on the last question. Lets say that HD movies are $15 dollars to buy and lets say you buy 5 movies a month. That's $75 dollars in movies alone and then you have to spend an extra 50 dollars to download those movies. That $125 dollars for 5 movies OR $25 a movie. This is for a movie that is of:
- Lower quality in both video AND sound
- Doesnt have extras
- cannot be used in other devices (I cant take my own movie over to my parents to watch? give me a break)

3.) How do you expect an aging U.S population(baby boomers A MAJOR consumer group) to accept a full digital distribution market?

Here are my thoughts but I would really like you to answer the questions above:

As of right now (and in the foreseeable future) digital distribution is not accessible, not affordable, and does not have the infrastructure in place to support such heavy bandwidth requirements. It is a good alternative for the high tech personality but it cannot survive on a massive scale.

As I said before, please explain to me how these questions can be answered so that:
1.) its as affordable as blurays will be in the coming year ($10 a movie).
2.) Its accessible to the entire population.
3.) How will the ISP's handle the bandwidth requirements.

SmokingMonkey3673d ago

BluRay Movies will begin having portable file's for you to use with PSP (and i imagine iPods too) So even more reason to get Disc over DD, they can simply put a DD on the MASSIVE BluRay disc.

jmare3673d ago (Edited 3673d ago )

He is. Blu Ray IS just like Laser Disc. It'll be gone in no time. I mean, it's just like CDs. You can't even find them in stores anymore. Oh, wait a minute...

EDIT: I guess some people don't have a sense of humor. Too bad. I r's sowee uz din't likz myz joke. Now laugh, stupid.

Firstkn1ghT3673d ago (Edited 3673d ago )

You talk about "being accessible to the entire population." Tell me this. How many people out there actually have a tv that supports 1080p??? The majority of hd tvs that are being sold are in the 40-42 inch range meaning that their is absolute no difference in 720p and 1080p. This is unanimously agreed by top editors of hd magazines like Sound & Vision. You need at least a 50 inch or higher. So tell me... how many people actually have a 1080p 50 inch or higher tv out there? I bet it's a lot less than the people that don't have high speed internet.

So in saying that, 720p will most likely be the sweet spot for digital downloads. Much smaller file to download and the quality is more than good enough for most of the population. All you have to do is look at quality of mp3's. Most mp3's are 128kbps and the quality of cd's are around 1100kps. The quality is a HUGE downgrade IF you have the right setup. Most people can't tell the difference but if you have an expensive stereo setup than the difference is there. But how many people out there actually have a $1000 plus stereo setup? Same goes with 720p and 1080p. If you have a 60 inch Sony XRD 1080p than the difference is there but not if you have a 42 inch Sony. So the majority of people have chosen mp3's as their main source of music while audiophiles choose cd's or lossless. Same goes for bluray. It will only be for the videophiles. Just like Laser disc was.

DIgital movie downloads have already started. Companies like Netflix stream movies through the Xbox 360. Comcast also has hd movie downloads for rental. Downloading for keeps will eventually happen and be the norm in about 5 years. Bluray will still be around but it will never see the same success as standard dvd just for the fact that the majority of people don't have the setup needed for 1080p.

butterfinger3673d ago

I find it interesting that you wait for more than 12 hours before attempting to say anything to anyone on here that has disagreed with you. Your argument is flawed in almost every aspect. The basis for your argument is apparently that people only want Blu Rays because they are in 1080p, and that is simply false. Blu Rays are the only movies available for purchase right now that do any HD quality native. I don't want a crappy upscaled HD version of my movies. I have 2 Sony Bravia 32" 720p TV's that look amazing with the Blu Rays projecting in 1080i. I also have a 26" Olevia 720p and a Sanyo 720p that look equally as impressive. However, I use to have a 37" Sharp 720p that looked much worse when hooked up the exact same way as my other TVs simply because it was 720p. I went back to Best Buy to return the TV and when I asked them about it, the person told me that you can start to see the difference between 720p and 1080p when you go from 32-37" TVs. I thought that this was bogus and my TV was just a piece, so I returned it and got a 42" Sharp Aquos 1080p, and it was obvious that the 1080p made it look much nicer, particularly when you are up close to the picture. I also later purchased a 37" LG in 1080p that looks gorgeous. You continuing to compare blu ray to laser disc just shows that you are bitter about blu ray winning the format war, because it has been way more successful than laser disc already. And if you are banking on digital downloads being able to be owned in 5 years, I would say that is plenty of time for Blu Ray to get a good foothold in the market. If you would be real (or maybe your just a child) for a minute, you could just look around and see that Blu Ray has almost mirrored DVD's earliest years. I hope you never own a 1080p TV with blu ray and surround, though. I want you to forever be missing out.

TheExecutive3673d ago

@ firstknight.

First of all, you DONT answer my questions you just attack bluray. THats not anwering the questions about the feasibility of DD. Stay on topic. WHere in my questions do I ask about the accessibility of Bluray? I dont. Nice spin, but Im not dumb enough to buy it.

Firstkn1ghT3672d ago (Edited 3672d ago )

Butterfinger, First of all I gave a late reply cuz I have a lil something called a life. But anyway if your watching 1080p movies on your 37 inch tv than you are sadly misinformed. You think bluray will be able to get a strong foothold in the market? How many people actually own a 1080p tv that matters? There is no way that bluray will have the same success as standard dvd just because the fact that standard dvds still sell strong and work on every tv at a low cost compared to an expensive bluray that only benefits big screen videophiles. HD video rentals have already been going on for months and consumers are getting used to this. There was nothing like this when standard dvd first came out. This isn't the first article that has stated "Blu-ray won't last." And for the record, I said the same thing about hd-dvd.

Executive, I just attacked bluray??? What the hell is the title of this article? How about you stay on topic. But to answer your questions....

1. Downloading 720p movies HAVE ALREADY BEGUN! ISP's have already supported it. Microsoft, Comcast, Netflix, etc... are all able to download 720p movies for rental. Eventually it will be for keeps. And 720p is more than hidef enough for most of the population. Like my man Butterfinger just said, he owns a bunch of tv's under 50 inches meaning their is no difference between 720p and 1080p. So 720p downloads would work perfect for him.

2. Where do you get an extra $50 a month??? Are you talking about the internet bill?

3. And why wouldn't they? Just look at the downloads at iTunes. They hit almost a million downloads a day now. With a huge amount of downloads being for older people. Baby boomers have always been full of curiosity. They're the ones at the Apple store asking a million and one questions.

Bluray will not be $10 a movie. At least not new releases. Yeah currently you can get a handful of first generation discs for about $10 but I don't see new releases getting any cheaper than $24 for awhile. I'm sure that a 720p download will be cheaper than the actual bluray disc. I been renting 720p downloads on my 42 inch plasma for months now and it looks absolutely amazing. I can't imagine it looking any better.

butterfinger3672d ago

How many accounts do you have btw? What happened to your other firstknight account? How am I misinformed for watching 1080p movies on my 37 inch TV? Apparently I am getting better picture quality than you are if you are watching movies on a 42 inch 720p plasma. Now that you mention, it finally all makes sense as to why you are whining about 1080p and 720p not having much of a difference. It's because you don't own a 1080p television and you own a plasma. I can't think of a single person that would recommend getting a plasma TV for gaming. These articles were all around when DVD was in its early years, and people like you who couldn't afford the new technology were whining about it back then. The difference is noticeable between 720 and 1080p from 37inches and up, and if you don't notice a difference then you are just justifying your own purchase. He!!, most of the TV's that are 37 or above only come in 1080p now, and they are getting a lot cheaper. At Wal-Mart you can get a 42in 1080p RCA for less than $900. Go on and continue to attempt to justify your own misinformed purchase and attack others for not agreeing. To be perfectly and unbiasedly fair and honest with you, I would prefer to own the movies that I love on Blu Ray and rent movies through DD such as Live, PSN, or FiOS. You and I apparently have the capacity to use DD more than most people, but I still own over 46 blu ray movies. I will be able to let my kids, friends, and family watch these movies for years to come whereas my downloads will most likely eventually get deleted or lost somehow and I can never give them to anyone.

Firstkn1ghT3672d ago (Edited 3672d ago )

Every top editor in top hd magazines like Sound & Vision always boast about 1080p only matters 50 inches and up. So if you don't mind paying a premium price for something that you can't even use fully than go ahead. Sounds like the salesmen just straight suckered you making you believe that their is a difference. 1080p at 37 inches is just companies trying to milk the consumer. Look like they got you but good.

And todays plasmas are easily the better choice for gaming because of the faster response time and better colors/blacks. This is a given. Lcd's suffer greatly from bad response time. I tell you what. Next time you play a fps take this test. Look at the details of a wall in the game. Slowly pan to the right or left. The details pretty much fades away. Same goes for movies. Watch a movie that slowly pans the camera to the right/left. The details fade away again. It almost looks like a smear. That doesn't happen with plasma. And if your thinking about burn in, that was only a factor in first/second generation plasmas. I play non-stop on my 360 on my plasma and I don't have a hint of burn in.

Go to and educate yourself.

butterfinger3672d ago

Unlike yourself, I do not base my decisions on comments and articles made on an outdated forum. I have seen the difference between 1080p and 720p on a 37inch TV myself with my own two eyes. You are however correct about the response times with plasma being quicker, but if you are so quick to boast about how there is no difference between 720 and 1080 then I can't hardly understand how you would manage to notice that. As for burn in, it still occurs on newer generation plasmas, as I just recently had it happen to my parents who bought their TV 6 months ago. That accompanied with the shorter lifespan of plasma TVs is why they are on the outs. Not to mention the glare problem that a majority of them face. Regardless of all this, you did not answer my questions, and you are simply continuing to attempt to justify your purchase, and I am happy for you. I just won't be responding to any more of these childish sidestepping replies. Enjoy your DD in 720p (just don't sit too close to the screen because it will look terrible), and keep holding out that DD will become the norm sometime soon. In the meantime I will be enjoying my movies in 1080p with 5.1 to 7.1 surround sound (and yes I do have a Bose system to actually use this with). Have a good one.

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