Boris Schneider-Johne, product manager for Xbox 360 at Microsoft Germany, explained the company's stance on the importance of exclusive titles.
ROFL! Yup. That's why they stole Final Fantasy XIII and DMC4. That's why they pay millions for exclusive DLC. They wouldn't be trying to "get" Sony's 3rd party exclusives on their console if they didn't care. They're just saying that 'cause they don't have as many exclusives as Sony does. The 360's "most hyped" titles are multi-platform.
thats why actions speak louder than words...
More like that's why M$ is full of sh*t.
Microsoft just ahvem't had the experience, and all the time Sony can maintain it's massive first party I doubt there will be much variation within the console wars. If the Xbox division didn't have the deep pocketed parent company, it would have been out of the game. It could have afforded GTA4 , nor could it have afforded FFXIII. It also couldn't have afforded extended warranties and the cost of the RROD. How did they make a profit last year? It was purely becuase they parent company took the losses for them.
"How did they make a profit last year?" the first thing that comes to mind is the $60 gold memebership...
Agreed. The other thing is that they are downplaying the importance of exclusives because they really don't have any amazing ones coming in the future like Sony does.
"The 360's "most hyped" titles are multi-platform." Not quite..
Why are you always the first to troll in a 360 gaming article and talk negative about it? Are you that insecure with your ps3 that you have to keep telling yourself and others that the 360 is crap? Get a life dude.
“Given the production costs of the games, it is hardly possible for developers to commit itself exclusively to someone" He was talking about 3rd party developers going multiplatform instead of doing exclusives like they did in past generations. Bombibomb: Microsoft didn't steal anything. Those 3rd party developers wanted to make more profit. Hard to do that when you go exclusive to one console, exspecially when that one console has a much smaller install base in the US and is about equal in EU. Edit: KnaveX, you proved my point perfectly. Sony had to pay out the a$$ for MGS4 to be exclusive. But what you forget is that Konami would have made more money if they had taken MGS4 multiplatform. Thats the way the business model works this generation. Both the 360 and PS3 are similar in performance. Have similar audiences. It only makes sense to go multiplatform to maximize profits.
i know you have a PS3 and all and your a bit bias towards the 360 but in a way bomb isnt trolling, you truly think that DMC and FF not being exclusive isnt because of M$'s checkbook? they arent full of sh!t for saying exclusives arent important? all PR is full of sh!t from all companies. was it a lie that Ms paid 50 million bucks for DLC? @ pimpdaddy: yet kojima has enough cash in his pocket with a smaller install base and no overhyped advertisement campaign. @icup thanks fixed it
...like Lips, Fable 2, that movie game, and w/e other ones they got at E3. I say M$ is just one huge oxymoron.
Its not even a 360 article you idiot, its was in both playstation 3 AND Xbox 360 categories.
To be fair M$ only pay 50 million bucks for GTA 4 DLC. :P
Why do I have the oh-so strong feeling that if Microsoft had even a THIRD of the First-Party development assets of SCE that they would totally be rubbing it in everyones faces on how crucial exclusives are and how decisive they can be in regards to potential future hardware revenue. Microsoft just loves to make the best of every situation by running their mouths almost mindlessly, even if it totally contradicts something that they said in the recent past.
These comments from the same idiots who were going on and on about Microsoft not having anything but Gears and Fable 2, and that Sony had some kind of arsenal of games coming out, only to find that while they were looking in one direction... MS was doing something different like... getting alot of RPG's on their system! Not all of you but alot of you... I hope one day you realize how stupid some of the people are on here, and investigate things before you speak! Also, in this gen of gaming, alot of these companies are trying to make as much money off these games as they can. So MS may not have had to pay for them... they may have approached MS about the deal as well. Take FFXIII for instance! Yes it spent alot of time on the Playstation brand, but with the cost of creating games rising... Looking at 14 million Ps3's as your savior is wishful thinking (borderline insanity). But if you add those 14 mil to 19 mil (360) your numbers could look better. For those who just rely on blind fanboy ambition, i'll spell it out for you... Since FF 7, sales for the series have dropped by almost a million with the release of each new game. Which is why Square Enix is focusing on branching out to larger audiences like Euro and US, because they are starting to feel like Japan might be starting to get bored of the FF franchise, which is why they are trying to get in good with MS. And alot of other developers have had these thoughts as well! You can hate MS all you want, but the truth is ugly and may not be what you want to hear, but I will tell you weather you want to hear it or not! P.S. Go ahead and take my bubbles if it makes you feel better. It just shows how sad fanboys are when they get pulled out of their fairytale land!
I'm amazed nobody picked up on that line: “In addition, we are in a situation that there is a head-to-head race on several consoles and that nobody is super clear in leadership - especially in matters of the PlayStation 3 against Xbox 360.” Does that mean that the PS3 is really getting THAT closer, number wise, to the 360? I know it's a question of time, but if somebody from Microsoft if saying that, they may have better numbers than we have. He cannot talk about Germany only, since for games, it's a "relatively" small market. Would like to see the numbers he is getting since I was not expecting the PS3 to catch up until end of 2009... Interesting. Spilling the beans like that, I'm sure he got an appointment with his boss a few hours after that. : )
""The 360's "most hyped" titles are multi-platform." Not quite.." For the 22 people that disagreed with that statement.. then tell me. Fable 2; Multi? No Gears 2; Multi? No Halo Wars; Multi? No Left 4 Dead; Multi? No SP: Conviction; Multi? No RPG's; Multi? No Viva 2; Multi? No Banjo N&B; Multi? No GTA4 DLC; Multi? No
Lol. Reading these comments it reminds me of the Open Zone! ahahaaa
I hope you realize that Final Fantasy started with Nintendo but Sony saved them from bankruptcy. With each Final Fantasy game selling less and less that's due to piracy. The PlayStation 3 hasn't been cracked and if so you can't go online or Sony will catch you. Everyone knows the PlayStation 2 was selling because of pirated games. This time around with 14 million PlayStation 3s means that you can actually sell that much. On the XBOX 360 side I know some people right now you have free online accounts and games. I know no one who has a PlayStation 3 to have a pirated game made for the PlayStation 3. This is what people don't realize and it's happening to the PlayStation Portable and DS. Remember the HD Loader; Sony countered that with a Slim model not capable with a HD (Hard Drive). HD Loader Official Site HTML: http://www.hdloader.org/
lol, some of those game are for the PC therefore you don't need an XBOX 360 to play them.
I just realized something, Skadoosh called Bomb a troll, I got banned for that once, he should too.
RPG's are your exclusive that would mean that every RPG is only on 360.
Whoa whoa whoa be careful with what you just said. I remember less than awhile ago I was just pointing out some facts like what you just mention in a much detail way and got ban from posting by the mod here calling me a fanboy. its really funny. firstly this is a real fact. secondly i own both so i am just pointing out something that people should realize. and got pwn right after. this only shows who clearly is fanboy. i couldnt really care more about it. i am neutral since bashing either side isnt going to being benefit to me. but fanboys will never admit them. just gotta live with those nonsense. especially those 10 yr old kids who only know how to click on disagree without knowing what they disagree about.
the more affordable man wins. Pretty simple logic if you ask me.
Then Microsoft lose instantly, since Sony have a lot more first party developers.
Grand Turismo, God of War, Twisted Metal, FFXIII Versus, InFamous, Team Ico exclusive, Rockstar North exclusive, Zipper Exclusive, Heavy Rain. Wherever that land may be, it sure isn't the gaming world as it is now. In this land you get what you pay for, and it's showing more and more as time progresses.
KZ2,ratchet and clank, resistance, jak and daxter, wardevil, uncharted, MGS, LBP.....wow, sony wins the exclusive battle easily. no wonder ms says they aren't important. and this ms guy is wrong....1st party exclusives are a big reason for a consoles success.
your pretty stupid.
just one more bubble left before we'll never have to hear you
The difference, Sony actually has teams making "GOOD" viable exclusive for their system internally and Microsoft doesn't. I'd take al of Sony's internally developed IP over Microsofts anyday of the week.
That's because you barely have any!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Internally developed meant something to everyone when they still had Bungie. Sony's efforts have always been to maintain first party. Right from the word go. And they have a business model based around that. Microsoft aren't as good at ahndlign their software developers, so generally unless they are pretty much seperated from the company ike Rare and Lionhead they don't do very well. And Microsoft seems to exercise very little creative freedom.
What do you call this: Ninja Blade GTA EXCLUSIVE CONTENT Mass Effect 2 Gears of war 2 Alan Wake Fable 2 Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts Tales of Vesperia Star Ocean 4 Infinite Undiscovery Mobile Ops: The One Year War Magna Carta 2 CRY ON Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Conviction Project Offset Supreme Commander Viva Piñata: Trouble in Paradise Legio Halo Wars Hellio Fallout 3 DLC Left 4 Dead Huxley Portal: Still Alive Forza Motorsport 3 Command & Conquer 3: Kane's Wrath Theseis Halo: Chronicles The Crossing Prey 2 Sacred 2: Fallen Angel Divine Divinity II Age of Conan: Hyborian Adventures Warhound Salvation Age of Pirates: Captain Blood Voodoo Nights Lips Project Progressive Race Pro APB Command & Conquer 3: Kane's Wrath Dead Island Demons of Mercy 1XR Dogtag Dungeon Hero Shadow Harvest The Shadow of Aten Space Chimps Super Star Totems Underwater Wars Versus Tactical Action White Gold: War in Paradise Zoids Assault Venetica Warhammer: Battle March Grand Raid Offroad Battlestations: Pacific You're in the Movies Scene It? Box Office Smash
How many of those games are exactly good and is not on PC? Alan Wake-hahahah Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Conviction-hahahha
What your blumbering idiots don't realise that Game for Windows is still MS. So if you buy it on the PC, you still supporting MS.
@Shadow Man All you have done is writing down all the Xbox 360 exclusives. Some of them won't be even out in 2008 or 2009. Some of them suck and some are just downloadable content. And why would you include Infinite flop and Tales of Flop in there. Alan Sleep currently has difficulties in development and Splinter Cell development is basically started over since their game wasn't good enough to compete with other AAA titles.
I guarantee you Star Ocean 4 won't remain a 360 exclusive. Watch.
Shovelware most of them anyway
@patchstation 3 I didn't really know, Games for Windows support MS. Thanks for letting me know. Now that I know I will just pirate all their games and let them suffer ahahahahahaha. Just joking. But I seriously didn't know games for windows support MS.
Most of those games aren't even in production yet so your list is kinda...idk...laughable? Lmfao.
..the longest trail of garbage i have ever seen.... cept for gears1 and 2....but i had gears for the PC : O, what now? and i agree with juuken, that list is laughable XD. *laughs with juuken*
I think you forgot SNEAK KING and BIG BUMPIN lol not one of those games comes CLOSE to LBP or R2, KZ2 and especially MAG want to see my list LITTLEBIGPLANET...that is all!
Magna Carta 2? are you talking about Tears of Blood 2 the korean jrpg? because last i checked it was ps3 xclusive. Zoids? what's wrong with you? you're just putting any crap game on that list for the sake of saying that it is xclusive. Totem? what the heck it's that? a game? most of those games sound like FLOP!
What a total list of garbage.. I can't wait for Wipeout.. Twisted Metal.. LPB of course. THOSE are AAA exclusives, not whatever that crap you just listed is. Reminds me of those "500 Games on One CD!" packs you can get for the PC and it's just 500 crappy games.
u r truly an idiot!! and who will buy PC game these days?? maybe u but not me and not many and thats why PC gaming is suffering!! all windows games u can get them from torrents for free idiot!! and who on earth doesnt have a pc?? only few with the exception of poor countries!! so when a game goes to PC then its not exclusive anymore, at least not 360 exclusive!!
Now they are downplaying exclusives because they barely have any internal studios to make em, unlike Sony.  War Has Changed Play Create Share My Name Is Nathan Hale and I have 19 Hours to Live  in the end...There Will Only Be Chaos The Real Driving Simulator If You Want to Test a Man's Character, Give Him Power
And that's just the ones with slogans!
Give me my inFamous~
"Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." - Abraham Lincoln Abraham Lincoln call, he want his quote back. :P
to be fair in the trailer of the game it says - abraham lincoln
LMFAO what was left out is that third party exclusives dont matter anymore.. first party exclusives do...
Third party exclusives obviously do matter, or else Gears of War and Mass Effect would be on PS3.
No, the point is third party exclusive exist, but they don't matter. And I think those would be 2nd party because Microsoft produce them (or no). But third party games exclusives won't exist until one console can outsell another console by a very large margin. It doesn't make sense otherwise. Why limit your potential buyers more than you have to since selling games is your primary focus. Sure attach rates per console will be down, but overall sales will usually go up. Microsoft, by far, has the weakest 1st and 2nd party developers, which is why they have seen such a drop off in interest this year. Sony has the largest (easily) and Nintendo has the most efficient and talented. Microsoft blew their chances early only by not snatching up more companies, and instead concentrating on buying timed exclusivity and exclusive DLC. The short term success was pretty good, but in the long run they lost a lot of developers which were then snatched up by Activision and EA. They have lost their ability to provide anything unique, and since huge hits no longer exist they can't justifiably purchase one exclusive game that will boost their hardware sales that is worth the price. The only game left that would have made sense was Final Fantasy, but it seems they were unable to buy Square off entirely. Microsoft's outlook is definitely grim, and this Sunday when the price drops in NA a lot of people will see evidence of this. They lack options at this point, and hardware saturation in North America will become a serious concern for Microsoft as time progresses, since they have no way of producing anything new or exciting.
No, they're third party games that are published by Microsoft, kind of like Heavy Rain.
It's a known fact that first party beats out third party any day of the week and twice on Sunday. They have all the tools and the know-how to push the system they code for. Third parties never get the same support so it stands to reason why Sony's first party titles will beat out their own third party exclusives. That is why the best looking console game remains to be Uncharted, a Sony exclusive.
How do Third Party Exclusives not count? That's stupid. An exclusive, whether First, Second or Third, is still an exclusive..
they sung a different tune during the ps3's launch year -_-
and when ms talks about the GTA dlc.....then exclusive content DOES matter. so hypocritical.
Indeed. Amazing how one year, it's nothing but "Look! Look! We have all these exclusives!" and now it's the opposite. You know something is not quite right when you headline multiplatform games at E3.
it' PR spin time although it makes them look extremely hypocritical! are they even taliking with each other over there at Redmond? if they do, why are they talking so contradictingly? I don't think E3 was already too far away that people can't recall them saying Exclusives are important?? whatever M$! for me, I chose PS3 over 360 and mostly only buy exclusives (which are a lot) except for some games! multiplat games? I play most of them on my PC!
Translation: We don't care about exclusives, just so long as the competition doesn't have any.
AHAHAHA Microsoft youre so hypocritical. now that ps3 is on the upside, you're backing down? lol.
so true so true
I think the title is misleading. "“Given the production costs of the games, it is hardly possible for developers to commit itself exclusively to someone. Now Sony makes its own games for the console, we make our own games for the console." "The titles are exclusive, as they are also attempts turnout the best of the console, but someone like Electronic Arts or Activision can have a business model of rarely developing for a console exclusively. Therefore, the exclusive title is a little less important.” Since this is a German rep there is probably some rough translation. I don't think MS are saying that exclusives are a little less important in general but to third party developers specifically. EDIT: Disagrees. I pasted exactly what he said. If you think this guy is saying exclusives are less important you need to seriously work on your reading comprehension.
Ninja Blade GTA EXCLUSIVE CONTENT Mass Effect 2 Gears of war 2 Alan Wake Fable 2 Banjo Kazooie 3 Tales of Vesperia Star Ocean 4 Infinite Undiscovery Mobile Ops: The One Year War Magna Carta 2 CRY ON Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Conviction Project Offset Supreme Commander Viva Pinata 2 Legio Halo Wars Hellio Fallout 3 DLC Left 4 Dead Huxley Forza 3 Command & Conquer 3: Kane's Wrath Theseis Halo: Chronicles The Crossing Prey 2 Sacred 2: Fallen Angel Postal III Divine Divinity II Age of Conan: Hyborian Adventures Warhound Salvation Age of Pirates: Captain Blood Voodoo Nights Lips Project Progressive Race Pro APB Command & Conquer 3: Kane's Wrath Dead Island Demons of Mercy 1XR Dogtag Dungeon Hero Shadow Harvest The Shadow of Aten Space Chimps Super Star Totems Underwater Wars Versus Tactical Action White Gold: War in Paradise i call that a weak a$$ lineup of games with 70% not close to release!
hahah hell yea MS has a bunch of weak azz games and denial is the egg on Botz faces
Xbot Fanboys actually love getting flop from M$ so I think it is a great line up for them since all game here is list as pure garbage, That right "PURE GARBAGE"
they say this because the have no good exclusives for they steal games to be multi and can think of great AAAA games just all FFFF games and 1 AAA game
"because we have nothing hype-worthy for 2009"
XD only on microsaft 360 where you get crap