While we are fine with Uncharted, maybe it is time to see what else Naughty Dog can do on a smaller scale.
I support this wholeheartedly.
And this is why Internet bloggers and anonymous Internet commenters will never run businesses... their incredibly poor sense of judgement and absolute zero business savvy. Here's a free business tip: capitalize on your strengths. Do what you're very good at. Naughty Dog is very good at making big games like Uncharted and The Last of Us, so it should stick to what it excels in. If it starts doing mobile games and small puzzle games and $10 side scrolling platformers, it would have to hire people who excel in making excellent games in those areas, which would stretch them far too thin with their current staff and would dilute their brand.
Pretty sure if ND wanted to do smaller projects they would do smaller projects. No reason to dictate anything to them let them do what they want it has been working pretty well so far....
Not bothering to read the article -cause really, nothing is worth reading after the title of an opinion piece since it only further outlines said opinion- but would hope by "smaller projects" they mean further utilizing and expanding upon the tech and methods used in making the latest UC or TLOU rather than moving past and trashing it. Doing what Square Enix seems to be with FF which is reinventing to wheel after just inventing it.
(slow clap).... ND is a big team, they can have some members doing smaller projects considering Sony Santa Monica does that all the time, they still release God Of War games. They can do both and still be fine.
@Gaming101 I couldn't have said it better myself.
Please no! They are very talented, but I don't want shovelware from them or a crap mobilegame. No, I wan't my TLOU fix, or a big new IP. Keep your crap mobile shit where it belongs, with those developers
I'd be ok with smaller projects, as long as they continue to innovate.
Let them spread their wings even further I say. Give us something fresh
Crash, Jak, Uncharted, TLOU. 4 huge franchises and rumors of a new ip, they have spread their wings plenty.
Naughty dog can do whatever they want!
If thats what naught dog wants not sony , id be happy to see an open world rpg game from them they know how to tell stories and very well made worlds
Wouldn't it matter more what ND wants to do over what people think it's OK for them to do? If they're into making these big epic games, I'd say let them. If they want to do something smaller, I'd be OK with that. They've proven they can make good games, no one needs to give Sony permission for them to handle their own studios.
I agree they dont need that ppl from outside come and tell them what to do next. Also i find the next piece from the article kinda silly. -"Naughty Dog has their hands tied in a way where Sony is probably going to want more from them in the action genre"- WTF, their hands tied? Really? So TLOU is the same as Uncharted?(not just in the genre, cause i know ppl is gonna come and say, yes is a tps) Im pretty sure that ND like any other studio from sony have "a lot" of liberty deciding what they want to do next, just look at GG they are making something totally diferent from their usual games/genre with sony blessing, sure sony would love to continue with the formula that make money for them, is a business after all. Edit: Reasons
Question is if that's what Naughty Dog wants.
No, it isn't. ND and Sony aren't friends. Sony owns ND. ND does what Sony wants. Well, on paper at least. I hear Sony lets them have a lot of freedom. But at the end of the day, if Sony doesn't like something or wants something, then it is their call. @MagicBeanz: "What Sony wants is to make money and that's what Naughty Dog games do regardless of their scale." And?
What Sony wants is to make money and that's what Naughty Dog games do regardless of their scale.
They are partners. At this point, Sony would let Nzd do whatever they want. Their hands aren't tied. They proved it by leaving their flagship title and work on something risky and different Just because they don't want to do smaller games does doen't mean their hands are tied. They don't want to go back platformers or whatever. They have found new ground since Uncharted, and they should stick with it
@Kurapika Ya but UC was not on a smaller scale than Jak or Crash in fact it was greater. They have the relationship they have now cause of trust that ND will deliver another high seller. Do you really believe Shuhei would be ok with NDs next main production title being something similar to Journey in scale? I don't, Journeys an awesome game but it's not something that's going to move units and appeal to the masses.
lol I sorta can't disagree with this guy. He is correct. I think to a degree Sony allows the team to have some freedom, but I feel only under situations where they feel they need a certain genre or theme etc. If they want a RPG or Horror title, they might give a team the ok to create that, but what the team creates is up to them. I don't really believe Sony is just letting teams do what ever regardless of game. I think to a degree they are oking and controlling the genre to fill in gaps they need. As mad as everyone is about this, this is business and Sony for a fact owns ND. We just don't know to what degree Sony controls them, for all we know they give them creative freedom based on genre that they ask for. I think given the tools we have now, showing some early concept of something in terms of "Proof of concept" might be what Sony gives the freedom for. They've had many, many teams over the years shift from radically different projects, from Sly to Infamous or Ratchet to Resistance or Killzone to Horizon Zero Dawn...i mean MAN that is a HUGE shift, from FPS to 3rd person RPG, but they've ok'ed enough to suggest that maybe they give that freedom, to a degree based on what Sony wants. Many teams gravitate towards Sony so who knows, but we have to at least agree Sony owns its teams for a solid reason. Maybe to just control the IPs, but I know they can't just go around bankrolling anything and everything. To a degree they are controlling and oking something.
I disagree, Sony has been pretty lenient on letting ND do what they want but that relationship was built from trust cause they have delivered numerous times over the past several years. They're by far Sonys prized horse, I think if they told Shuhei were going to make a smaller game similar to a journey or child of light, that wouldn't fly with him. It'd be a bad business decision on Sonys part, a lot of ppl that own a PS do so to play NDs next game, games like TLOU and UC4. Smaller projects are excellent filler games but they don't move units.
ND are masters of the action genre. While I understand the authors implication of fatigue or getting stuck in a rut, why does ND need to be like other developers? They've got their niche and it's been successful thus far. I wouldn't be opposed to mini projects types but why pull the focus away from what makes ND one of the greatest?
Why? They clearly have making AAA games that are fully and completely fleshed out down pat. No reason to waste their talent on small projects better left to indie developers trying to move up. ND is at the top for a reason, and anything other than a AAA blockbuster would be wasteful of what they worked so hard to reach.
I agree. This article is dumb. There's plenty of Indie developers out there already we have so many small games we don't get many quality Triple A games let's take the best studio and not have them do what they do . I think people are just writing any article related to naughty dog now just to get hits.
Why would anyone want this? It's not like we get a ton of Triple AAA quality games we get a ton of small good quality games this is a waste of talent. Most studios are Indies now anyway every other week there's a good small game coming out all the time why waste naughty dog. They're the best Triple-A studio out there there's not really that many good Triple A games. Why would you take the best triple a studio and not have them do that it doesn't make any sense man get out of here. These articles are just getting stupid . Second off it would be a waste to Sony because Uncharted going to make so much money. Let's take your best studio and have them work on something smaller that wouldn't make as much money something more Niche. That doesn't make any sense for Sony or naughty dog . Their next game is going to be the Last of Us 2 I'm telling you right now I'd rather have that than any other smaller projects . They're also working on Uncharted DLC they don't have time for smaller project.
Naughty Dog has stated that what they decide to make is simply up to them and not Sony. Sony gives them the freedom to do what they want seeing how whatever they make strikes gold. Highly doubt ND wants to do small projects. They've stated that as a company they've grown to much to simply settle for that. http://www.psu.com/News/289...
I still want a naughty dog space adventure game. A cross between mass effect and TLOU.
ND is free to do whatever they want.. at least we gamers know they never fail to deliver...
The Last of Us 2 is all I want from ND. I passed on UC4 as it didn't deviate from the previous 3 UC's (I did play and beat all 3 of them, and I found them to have zero replay value. Enjoyable, but never played them twice.)
I think Sony let Naughty Dog do pretty much whatever they want.
Is this a hint at a new Crash Bandicoot Game?
Naughty Dog can develop AAA and Indie games at the same time. But the main priority is the Triple A big budgeted games. Gaming industry lacks AAA developers and so ND is much needed there. They are the best developer of story driven games. ND pushes the envelope in all areas of game development.
I'd like to see them do some Vita projects.
I hope the guys who used to work there and did Crash Bandicoot will buy the rights from Naughty and make a new Bandicoot.
VR games incoming
That's not what I wanna hear. They are too talented. I would go nuts for an open world ND game.
So because your wife walked into the room and asked a stupid question Naughty Dog should no longer make large scale games? And "game journalism" takes another step backwards.
ND dictates to Sony, not the other way around. ND is a 1st party that operates like an independent. They do what they want, and rightfully so. ND wanted to do TLOU, ND wanted to venture into realism with Uncharted, and if ND wanted to do a smaller game they would. If ND wanted to do a new ip rather than TLOU 2 Sony would allow it. ND has earned the right to dovwhatever the hell they want. Best dev in thr industry bar none.
If this is about the new Crash Bandicoot (by the way, i really hope it's true that the IP is coming back to Sony), another studios can handle the franchise, like the Japan Studio or Sanzaru Games. Naughty Dog is a big studio as well, they could handle two projects.
Japan studio would ruin crash; they would make it a drek combat only game like knack with no platforming
Because Knack is the only game created by Japan Studio, let's forget about the Ape Escape series and Gravity Rush, btw, let's also forget that Mark Cerny could work again with the Crash Bandicoot series, you know, he is"only" the designer and the executive producer of Crash Bandicoot and Spyro games on PS1. You really know what's going on, lol.
Knack was originally pitched by cerny as a Crash game, which proves my poin that hea nd his team would turn it into a Knack fest
Please just make UnKarted Naughty Dog. We don't have new Motorstorms so there's a gap.
Wii tard did
I'm 99.9% sure that ND makes games what they want and Sony trust them completly
This is the dumbest thing I've ever read
Naughty Dog Presents..... Pong: A Dot's End
I mean... I dont think the article meant 10$/€ digital downloads or mobile games. I thought something similar to Song of the Deep by Insomniac, or even larger than that. Like, game budgets are getting larger and larger, but it cant go on like that forever. I think experimenting with different games and genres in the 30/40 €/$ area could be beneficial and lead to implementation of new ideas and tech to your next big things.
I think ND can do whatecer they want and i'll be happy anyway. Still hoping for a new Crash tho ;) or Jack and Dexter.... but from this one i'd like a return to the origins, like the first one (never tried new frontiers).
Sony is going to let ND do what ND wants to do. The team earned it and it has been working so far.
This author is seriously confused...Sony's first party developers have more leeway and creative freedom than any other first party devs in the industry. Naughty Dog in particular can do pretty much as their heart desires....which is how The Last of Us came about in the first place, as releasing a brand new, what you hope to be successful franchise on the ps3 right before the ps4 comes out would not be accepted at some other places not named Sony. Naughty Dog is working on the projects they want to do....which is why before the release of Uncharted 4, a hugely successful Ip for Sony, the developer can say this is the last Uncharted game they will be working on, and they hope the last for Nathan Drake, period. Think about this....how silly is this article to offer a critique about the games Naughty Dog is producing, and what they will produce next, when all Naughty Dog does is produce game of the generation type titles with every offering they submit. Silly indeed.
Yes! Sony let them do the new Crash! :D
Support it, but maybe Naughty Dog doesn't want to do smaller projects. Sony does give ND quite a lot of freedom after all.
I support short episodic episodes. Stop artificially making the game longer with gunplay filler. Simple 2 button QTE fights will suffice.
Their strength is big games with intimate characters, and they should stick to that formula, since it has brought them so much acclaim and commercial success.
They do let ND do what they want. The folks there have said many, many times that they have quite a lot of creative leeway.
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