Beyond 1080p: Toshiba talks up higher definition Says it's ready to serve up 4K and 8K TVs Toshiba appeared re-energised at its IFA press conference today with ambitious plans for the future that will finally put the failure of HD DVD behind it.
1080p hasn't even been fully utilized and their talking about higher resolutions? reading this article.....it's no wonder why toshiba has had (and will continue to have)problems.
they're, not THEIR + please make intelligent or informed comments
I think you made him mad, shame on you for making a spelling mistake. BTW please consider that some people on the internet do not have english as they're first language.
Toshiba better keep my name out their mouth. LOL.
Agree. It all comes down to Size and your distance from the screen. Digital based cinemas are now projecting in 2K. Thats 2 K on a HUGE screen. I actually witnessed Blade Runner (Re-Mastered) in 4K. The Projector (1 of only 4 in the world at the time and brought to Sydney for Two Showings) looked astonishing. And again , on one big MoFo Cinema screen... 4 K in the Loungeroom? What about investing in tech instead , that reduces the Green house Gas footprint (due to manufacture) , Run more efficiently and makes them affordable as a CRT ? !
please take a look at your spelling and then correcting someone else, you're just the same as him lol quote "english as they're first language." you see this should be "english as [their] first language."
you have no room (or right) to criticize anyone. check your previous comments. they're horribly constructed. and my comment is informed and intelligent. toshiba has already FAILED trying to force hd-dvd onto the market when blu-ray had tremendous backing. now they're going to try and force higher res content on a public that is just now starting to embrace the current hi-def formats (720p, 1080i, 1080p). pleeeeeeeeeease.....think zoy, think.
@ PopEmUp it was an intentional spelling mistake, to show that I don't care about spelling, no one here is applying for a job, its just a a gaming comments thing, so who cares, if it bothers you so much just call the grammar police to come arrest me.
it should be zoydwheeler's (not zoydwheelers) - to indicate the possessive (genitive) ;)
@1.0 You're not kidding. Most people don't even have 1080p sets yet and they're already talking about bumping that up. The funny thing is, 1080p sets are just coming into the price range that can be afforded by the main public. Anything higher would just put the sets out of reach of the buying mainstream. My 1080p DLP is enough for me and I have no plans to change it out for something else.
Why stop at 1080? Before we know it, 720p or even 1080p will become the new "480p" standard, so why not push forward technology-wise?
I don't know if most of Japan are running on HD or not but all I know is that US always seem to lag far behind in making new technology a standard.
The US lagging behind in technologies is often the result of corporate monopolies. Lack of competition stagnates the industry.
..........What type of resolution do we see things around us in? 420p, 510p? 615p? This is what I propose....make contact lenses that we can see the world in 1080p...or maybe 4kp or 8kp.. Think of it a Sony Bravia 8kp contact lenses....where you see your world in HD...not just your TV...
in a higher resolution that could ever be put through a screen (obv depending on your eyesight). Why do you think that some of the advertising campaigns for HD say that it is 'like the event in the TV is actually happening right in front of you'. Because they are trying to catch up to real life through your eyes and attempted to get rig of that filmed through a camera look.
If you wanna overcome your HD-DVD failure, release the BD players instead of trying to salvage whatever you can with your new "ultra-upscaling" DVD technology. I'm not buying another Toshiba format any time soon for HDTV formats that have yet to get content.
tho im sure ur dog will enjoy it!
First, they take a dig at Blu-ray and talk about DD again. With more and more providers adding monthly download caps in their service plan, good luck with that. So they talk about future 4k\8k displays and wireless HDMI but the only thing they could show was upscaling SD content. Sad. Wi-Fi while convenient lags in performance compared to wired ethernet. It doesn't bode well for wireless HDMI in the near future. Who wants to watch an HD movie with dropouts, lag, and occasional macroblocking? And realistically, most people with small sets can't tell the difference between 720p and 1080p, it takes people with large sets to appreciate the added information. There is an actual limitation to the size of display that people are willing to put in their living room, the size needed to really see the impact of an 8k display makes it impractical. Finally, broadcast can't even do 1080p yet, they are stuck in 720p and 1080i so 4k and 8k are out of reach for at least 10 years. I think for the homes that the industry should work on Imax quality 3D and more interactivity. 1080p for the size of today's TVs has reached most people eye limitation.
blu ray bisplays at 1080p right? and that has not even started to take off properly yet. Let just say the next TVs allow resolutions of 2160p my blu ray films will still display at 1080p so whats the point? I guess if they upscale really well that might make it slightly worth it. But anyway, your average Joe (no offence to people that are really called Joe) cannot tell the difference between 720 and 1080 anyway.
Its simple spoiling tactics. It makes no sense to talk about standards higher than 1080P. All you do is confuse the consumer. At the size of screen that most people will use in their living rooms, 1080P is an extremely impressive resolution that is as much as the vast majority of consumers will ever need. At a time when the vast majority of consumers don't have an internet bandwidth that can serve up the compressed 720P offerings of the current download services, its a bit rich to be promoting even higher res standards on one hand, and suggesting that Downloads are the answer. They have totally lost the plot, and most 'tech heads' will have lost faith in the direction that Tosh has been going in , which seems more politically motivated that the result of any true understanding of consumer needs and future trends.
Sad but true, they seem to have some other agenda.
True. Most movies on BD are taking up between 18GB and 36 GB depending on movie lenght and compression used. The best BD movies come in 50GB discs for maximum encoding quality, and these guys talk about 6 movies taking up 32GB?!?!? The next "big thing" in HD TVs is going to be increased Dynamic Range and higher bit depths, not resolution. That alone will make more of an impact in imgage quality by far than a pure increase in resolution.
guess they are all in anticipation of the RED camera that's already out.. http://www.red.com/
That was a long time ago. Toshiba should just go under. There now known as the peasants of HD.
honestly, the damn high def we have out now is still in its infancy. 1080 resolution is the s**t! Its light years ahead of SD and we all contently had SD for what...like decades. So really this talk of expanding it further already is a bunch of horse poo to me. Theres no need to push it even further at this point. Just keep improving on what we have now which is already beyond fantastic. I about s**t myself when I saw the difference when I purchased my 32" Sony Bravia. Damn, Ill be happy for the next 20 years myself.
The instant resolution of the eye is only about 100^2<->200^2. Most people can see a maximum of 5000^2. There have been freaks who can see an estimated 50,000^2.
"the ability to store up to six HD movies on 32GB flash memory " These guys must be joking. Most movies on BD are taking up between 18GB and 36 GB depending on movie lenght and compression used. The best BD movies come in 50GB discs for maximum encoding quality, and these guys talk about 6 movies taking up 32GB?!?!? Toshiba ain't gona last much time if they keep screwing up like this.
You will need a BIG A$$ screen to actually be able to perceive resolutions higher than 1080p from a normal couch-to-TV distance. The human eye can spot an area of a square milimiter from a distance of 5 meters. I am pretty sure that a single pixel in a 42 inch LCD is smaller than that... Now the colors... That´s another story. Brighter colors and more contrast are always welcome. Sunlight hits earth´s surface with great strength, giving any object in a sunlit environment a great ammount of luminosity. Actual TVs are still struggling to imitate that, and the possibility to emulate pitch black and sunburnt white light is far from achieved. But then again... it´s the logical way... They´ll start selling 120 inch sets I guess...
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