New Killzone 2 Screenshots

Kotaku: "Everyday I mark the calender because it is one day closer to the release of the this game. Until then we got some more Killzone 2 screenshots from Leipzig. Also if you didn't get a chance, check out the multiplayer trailer Luke posted a few days ago."

[TheHater]

ok, who kidnapped the writes of Kotaku, and replace them with open minded writers?

[360degrees]

the fact of the matter is that I can probably count on one hand the amount of "Hyped" games that have fully delivered on their promises (both gaming wise and it terms of its reviews)...And since all we really have to base this game off of is its prior iteration of Killzone 1 (mediocre reviews, and lacking in many areas), it doesnt give much confidence that it can deliver even close to gamers hopes........or to put it simply Graphics do not always = A Great Game, it needs to have more than a pretty face to be a GREAT Game

[Max Power]

halo 3 isn't on your hand, if it is then you have no cred.

[Barreldragon00]

Ya we can judge the game based on the first one... or how about all the Previews on THIS game saying how much they love the MP and campaign.

[Dark General]

You don't just have KZ1 to base your judgment on. There's been quite a bit of footage released on Killzone 2 that you can judge as a standalone title like i have. I myself have never played or for that matter heard of Killzone until last years E3.

[Figboy]

i have the first Killzone, and it's actually not half bad, and i'm enjoying it. it's not so much mediocre in design and atmosphere, but it's execution was beyond what the PS2 could do at the time of Killzone's release.

also, Killzone: Liberation on the PSP is GREAT.

Guerrilla Games took to heart the criticisms they received from Killzone, and rectified them in the PSP game.

can a developer not GROW and LEARN with experience, just like most people?

as for Killzone 2, if you've bothered to follow the progress of the title (and judging by your avatar and screen name, i'm gonna take a wildly speculative, but probably spot on, guess, and say, "no, you haven't), you'd hear many a preview state that the game is NOTHING like the original, and in fact, improves upon EVERY facet that was complained about in the first game, from controls, to atmosphere, to animations, to the intensity of the firefights. it's not just the standard graphical upgrade that you come to expect.

people love to throw out Killzone when talking about KZ2, and throw out the infamous target render of yore, and completely ignore the PSP iteration, and the fact that this one is NOT it's predecessors.

i mean, do you judge a game like Devil May Cry 3 and 4 based off of Devil May Cry 2 and the mediocrity that that title was? do you judge Metal Gear Solid 3 and 4, off of the disappointment that most people felt with MGS2?

a franchise can IMPROVE, in the same way that it can either stagnate (ie, the old Tomb Raiders before Legend), or remain relatively unchanged during it's run (ie, Halo 3).

from what i've seen and read of Killzone 2's single player and multi-player, i can't help but be impressed by how far they've come as a developer.

and when you factor in the fact that they've been receiving tips from the God of War team at Sony Santa Monica, Insomniac, and Naughty Dog concerning the development of the game, how can you still have doubts about it's quality?

hype is completely irrelevant to the quality of a gaming product (see, Lair, Too Human, GTAIV, MGS4, etc). some games are hyped and fail (ie, Lair, Too Human). some games are hyped and meet, or exceed that hype (ie, GTAIV, MGS4). hype is a concoction of the gaming media, the consumers that buy into said hype, and many an overzealous designer (ie, Peter Molyneux and his Fable 1 stuff, and Dennis Dyack and his Too Human stuff. Guerrilla Games never dubbed the original Killzone as a Halo killer; it was the Official Playstation Magazine that stated that on it's cover; i HAVE that issue).

it's funny how you say that graphics don't make a great game, but some of the most revered gaming series of all time were praised for their incredible graphics AND their great gameplay.

Super Mario Bros 1-3 and World
Legend of Zelda
Castlevania: SOTN
Resident Evil 4
God of War
Gears of War
Halo
Devil May Cry
Prince of Persia
Half Life 1&2

however, the tried and true "graphics over gameplay" statement is always whipped out and twisted to dismiss ANYTHING that looks even remotely pretty, but i guarantee that if Killzone 2 played like a fricking "lucid dream," yet had visuals right out of the Playstation 1 era, it would have been trashed.

i guarantee that if Gears of War played like Killswitch (which is DOES), and looked like Killswitch (which is DOESN'T), it wouldn't have been praised nearly as much as it is.

ALL gamers are graphics whores, no matter what they say. yes, they appreciate excellent gameplay, we ALL do. but it doesn't hurt when we get the visuals too.

would pretty graphics have made Super Mario Galaxy a better game? no. it would have added a nice visual touch, with maybe more depth to the environments and what not, but the game would have still been excellent.

but i GUARAN-FRIGGING-TEE that Wii fans wouldn't have complained ONE BIT if it had the visual prowess of Ratchet and Clank Future: Tools of Destruction.

there's nothing wrong with liking beautiful visuals, but there is certainly something wrong with dismissing a game outright simply because it has some pretty graphics, especially when people were so quick to point out how gorgeous Resident Evil 4 was on the Gamecube, and snort derisively when it was announced for the PS2 not much later, and the visuals had to be tweaked for the PS2, and it didn't look 100% like the GC version (i've played both, and the differences aren't that major, but they are certainly there).

Killzone 2 is looking to be as fun to play as it is beautiful to look at. hype or no hype, the game is coming along very, VERY well.

[vdesai]

I guess it also works backwards then, since Halo 3 sucked all the halo games must suck, right?

(Not my opinion at all 1 was the best though.)

[pwnsause]

You get bubbles for today.

[Figboy]

thanks! i appreciate it (especially you bothering to read my entire comment)!

bubbles back at you.

[fanboi hater]

nicely formulated response to a more than likely biased fanboi

bubbles up

[Figboy]

back at you.

[CViper]

meh.. Although.. I could be wrong about kotaku.. but only time will tell.

[CrippleH]

Still lot of haters reading Kotaku.

Reading a lot of "Too Brown" comments. Talk about too high of a standard or just being a douche.

[TheExecutive]

yeah what a bunch of idiots.

[HuntTheWumpus]

I think that stemmed from a lot of the "Greys of War" comments on Gears. It was awful then but now it's OK for KZ2. A bit hypocritical but that is fanboys/haters for you.

I think a lot of them haters are getting disappointed because KZ2 is AAAAAAAAAAAAAA in the graphics dept. and were hoping to base their bashing on the features and gameplay. The more I read previews of it sounds like they are nailing the features and gameplay as well. Shaping up to be a AAA title all the way around.

This will be the reason I pick up a PS3 (and MGS4 which is a first day buy).

System seller in my case.

[spandexxking]

i think cod4 has a very dull greyish colour to it but it didnt stop that from being a great game.

[mfwahwah]

I don't mind if the color pallete is a bit lacking, if and ONLY if it matches the atmosphere and scenes. KZ2. It's based on a bleak, harsh planet full of pissed off, depressive, Nazi-lookin' Helghast.

Would pink, yellow, purple, teal, etc really fit in? Certainly not.

If a game like Ratchet and Clank was a gray-fest though, then yes, I'd complain; but KZ2 looks perfect how it is.

There may even be some colorful areas we don't know about yet (not *too* colorful obviously).

[Sillyace92]

Why does everyone hate on Kotaku?

[TheExecutive]

meh, i dont have any hate for kotaku but I know why others do:

They hate kotaku because for the first 1.5 years of the ps3 that site bashed the console consistantly. this is what happens when you publish too many stories bashing a console.

[TheExecutive]

Look at the bloody stump of a leftover body. Oh yeah and the graphics are so very incredible. Oh and this is the multiplayer folks. This game is going to be incredible. The mp sounds amazing:

badge switching
the graphics
massive clans
massive tournaments
32 players
4 player ingame squads with the possibility of private voice chat
12 different ranks
a lot of medals to earn
trophies for online competition
unlockables in online

oh yeah and here are a few screens:

Edit: ok, what the hell... i cant upload screenshots?

[mfwahwah]

Don't forget we're getting co-op and vehicles in MP soon after release (I'm betting on a free release - don't judge GG DLC on other DLC, except Criterion :D).

[Tacki]

Attaching screenshots on here is weird. In order for it to work for me usually I have to post... then edit my comment and put in the url and make sure I'm in the little attach box when I click enter. Otherwise it almost never works. And on top of that it doesn't allow me to upload pics from my 'puter. I have to get them hosted first. Very odd. I'm sure that doesn't help alot... but you probably have the same problem as me.

[zapass]

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[blackbeld]

kotaku is now fan of PS3? ok...... seems like they got they're own RROD finaly!! hahaha.. lol.

[Sir_Ken_Kutaragi]

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@zapass ;) The only site i like is playstation.com!!!;-D
AMAZING Screenshots tho!!! ;-P ;-P ;-P

+KillZone 2 looks Like a real Next-Gen FPS!!! ;-P
This IS Next-Gen!!!;) Next-Gen starts when we say so!!! ;-D

[Panthers]

These are incredible. Simply amazing. Wow.

[Microsoft_Spokesman]

Looking very nice, especially the recon class.

[Cryxbotcry]

Cry xbots cry that this is not on Crap box 360.

[HuntTheWumpus]

Is that how it is on this site?

No 360 trolls or negative posters on this article at all. So you come out to taunt them into it?

Enjoy your games and stop showing everyone how stupid fanboys are.

[Asher6]

ill tell you why. one simple reason... they dont own a ps3. its really that simple. ive never spoke to a single person who actually OWNS a ps3 that says anything bad about killzone2. period.

people who bad mouth this game just sound pathetic and desperate, and for good reason. this game has no choice but to be great, and i believe it will.

next these fanboys will probably be complaining about the cover art on the instruction booklet. lol.

[mfwahwah]

Honestly. This game has AMAZING graphics, incredible immersion (thanks to graphics, animations, audio, etc.), EVERYTHING I could imagine is in this game for chrissakes!

People say "KILLZONE 1 SUCKED!" Well, I don't call Too Human bad, wanna know why? I've never played it, just like (most of) the people bashing KZ1.

-What about KZ:L? That didn't suck, so obviously GG is getting better? Nah, that's too logical.

-PS2 too weak for their original goal? Nah, fanboys won't believe that.

I'm just so angry with the wrongful hate this game is getting. If I heard some half-decent complaints on a regular basis, then I wouldn't care about the bashers.

Actually, I don't care THAT much... in the end it's them missing out on a game just because they're too egotistical to buy a PS3 and be open-minded enough to try this game.

[hazardman]

man you made a good point, but guess what..your in SONY Fanboy territory..It looks like a 5 day rental to me...puff puff pass biatches...

[hazardman]

I own two PS3 and guess what.. til KZ2 proves me wrong i'll keep hating on it...

[Tobias123]

Boy, aren't you cool...

360degrees does make a good point about hype being a double edged sword, but you just come across as an arrogant prick. I tend to not believe the hype and when a game gets huge amounts of hype and preview praise(see Halo 3, Bioshock, and Killzone 2) it just makes me more skeptical, rather than getting me excited for the title in question. However, I won't go and hate on any game for no reason.

EDIT: Just to clarify, Killzone 2 is one of the titles I'm looking forward to, not just because of the glowing previews and impressions, but because I enjoyed the first game more than any other shooter last gen.

[mfwahwah]

You'll hate it without cause, but you won't love it without cause? You're a perplexing man.

[Figboy]

how many games where a developer took the time to go all out on the visuals turned out to be horrible?

i mean, the only one i can think of was The Bouncer from Square. it was a game oozing with visuals, but the gameplay was crap (i used to own it). Lair could be arguable, but even than game isn't an unplayable mess (see, The Lost World: Jurassic Park on the PS1, Batman Beyond, Superman; all games starring him, and Tomb Raider: Angel of Darkness for some REAL examples of unplayable messes. also, the visuals sucked arse too).

i mean, i see so much "gameplay over graphics" flag waving, but there are so few examples of games that took the graphics more seriously than the gameplay.

like i said in my above post, about 90% of the most revered gaming franchises of all time had SPECTACULAR visuals for their time, the majority of the most hated games of all time are pretty mediocre all around. from controls, to level design, to story, to graphics.

i mean, generally, if a game is truly crap, it's crap in ALL areas. very few games that have turned out like crap have had much care thrown into the visuals.

i mean, i wouldn't call games like Kane and Lynch, Turok, Conflict: Denied Ops, Blacksite: Area 51, and Bomberman: Act Zero graphical powerhouses. but they certainly were crap games.

however, games like Gears of War, Heavenly Sword, Warhawk, Bioshock, Mass Effect, Ratchet and Clank Future: TOD, Motorstorm, Call of Duty 4, Metal Gear Solid 4, and Uncharted are very fun games that, *gasp* just so happen to represent some of the best visuals in the industry.

now why is that? is it because the developers not only focus on bringing us some excellent gameplay, but they also felt the need to flesh out their worlds with tons of detail and atmosphere to best support that gameplay.

games like God of War, RE4, Halo, DMC, and Ninja Gaiden had similar aesthetics.

graphics and gameplay are a MARRIAGE. they compliment each other and enhance each other. gamers need to break way from separating the two concepts in their mind, and understand that they are both part of a whole.

in this day and age, crappy visuals should be unacceptable. and there is a BIG DIFFERENCE between crappy visuals, and art design.

i doubt anyone would say that Team Fortress 2 looks better than Uncharted, for example. HOWEVER, Team Fortress is an EXCELLENT looking game, because of it's superb art design. even World of Warcraft still looks really good, because of quality art design.

now compare a game like Conflict: Denied Ops, to Metal Gear Solid 4. there is NO competition in what quality art design adds to a games overall package.

i think some gamers confuse "crap graphics," and "art design," quite a bit these days.

i can enjoy the look of a Braid, Pixel Junk Eden, and Pixel Junk Monsters in the same way i can enjoy the look of a Bioshock, Metal Gear Solid 4, and Ratchet and Clank Future: TOD.

all of the games are amazing visually because of their unique style.

with engines like Unreal Engine 3 making it very easy for mediocre developers to produce pretty decent graphics, i can understand some of the confusion, but if you really pay attention, you'll recognize the truly stand out developers from the jokers (ie, quality devs = Infinity Ward, Criterion, Bioware, Insomniac, Kojima Productions, Naughty Dog, Sucker Punch, Guerrilla Games, Sony Santa Monica, Bungie, DICE, Id, etc).

no matter how much a game may do some things right in terms of graphics (ie, Dark Sector, Bourne Conspiracy), you can spot a mediocre product by it's overall lack of polish (watch gameplay videos of games like 50 Cent: BITS, or Bourne, or Dark Sector, THEN look at vids of games like Gears of War 2, Uncharted, MGS4, Ratchet, Bioshock, Mass Effect, etc).

the constant whoring of the UE3 from mediocre devs have made it harder to spot, but you just have to be observant.

Killzone 2 looks neither unpolished or generic, in ANY category, from art design, sound design, gameplay, AI, and most certainly visuals. people will hate all they want, but only because they don't like the taste of humble pie, judging from the absolute FIELD DAY they had with the PS3 and Killzone 2 after that target render from E3's back, and how Guerrilla Games shoved a whole dumptruck full of Crow and humble pie down their throats when they revealed actual gameplay of Killzone 2 at E3 2007, and came mighty close to that target render many said was "impossible," "there's NO WAY the PS3 could even come 25% close, let alone 50% or 100% HAW HAW!"

so now that they've been completely and utterly proven wrong about the PS3's abilities, they fall back on the often disputed, difficult to really combat argument of "gameplay over graphics!" "it LOOKS good, but how does it PLAY?" and even if/when Killzone 2's gameplay is just as fun as it looks, haters/reviewers/doubters, will STILL nitpick the game to death for some perceived imperfection, or for "not living up to the hype," that was generated by THEM in the first place.

those grapes must taste mighty sour, huh, haters?

i guess we'll just have to wait until February 2009 to find out.

[cereal_killa]

All kidding aside i have to give you props for your very logical comments, I'm pretty new to this site and as i read these forums on both PS3 and 360 games i see some people truly act immature with some of there fanboy loyalty and not see a game for what it is you can t deny that KZ2 does looks spectacular but until we play it not to many people can say how great it will be or how bad it will be. I personally don't own a PS3 yet but this game is defiantly going to be a game i get when it is released...

[TheExecutive]

"i can enjoy the look of a Braid, Pixel Junk Eden, and Pixel Junk Monsters in the same way i can enjoy the look of a Bioshock, Metal Gear Solid 4, and Ratchet and Clank Future: TOD."

Absolutely, nuff said. I couldnt agree with you more about the confusion between art design and graphics. There is a difference but the key is that the technology enhances the art design perfectly. I STILL love playing Shadow of the Colossus and the GOW series on the ps2 because of the art design. I LOVE Eden for its art design and I am going to LOVE Flower for theirs.

The game must FEEL right.

[mfwahwah]

I hate you Figboy, I really do! You always have these long as **** comments, and I always have to sit down and read the whole thing because it's... enlightening ^.^

Anyway, I completely agree. I've always thought this in the back of my mind (I truly don't care if graphics are that good, but they do help). I've noticed that good graphics and good game play just belong together. A developer who is serious about their game will work on all aspects, not just graphics, and not just game play.

Then again, I'm not so naive to judge a game play by graphics, I just try to make a logical conclusion based on MANY points, and graphics is one of them.

So far GG has made KZ2 look and sound great, so why would they stop there? I'm very confident that the game play is something that we don't need to worry about.

And cereal_killa, get used to the fanboys. I always skip a comment-chain (I don't know what else to call the replies-to-comments >.<) if there is too much fanboyism, and it's usually one of the first posts. Don't leave N4G because of them though, because you seem like someone who'll actually help make this site a bit better :{D.

[Figboy]

i'm simultaneously grateful and horrified by your comment mfwah. lol.

i agree, Killzone 2 is looking really, really fun.

Guerrilla Games have really worked to address ALL the criticisms labeled at the original Killzone.

but you know, in the hater's eyes, that's just not good enough.

they blow everybody away with the graphics?

haters say: it's too gray.

they go all out on the multi-player?

haters say: it's too gray.

they talk about patching in co op after launch?

haters say: put it in the first place! oh yeah, and it's too gray.

they add a unique badge system, which is a nice twist on the standard class system?

haters say: it's too gray.

no matter what KZ2 does right, the haters will still fold their arms and pout, and nitpick.

i mean, that's all they can do as more and more quality PS3 EXCLUSIVES are revealed and shown off, because they can't point fingers at the visuals anymore. they can't point fingers at the price anymore. they can't point fingers at the lack of games anymore. they can't point fingers at the "inferior online" anymore. they can't point fingers at the lack of Achievements anymore. they can't point fingers at Blu Ray anymore. they can't point fingers at crappy multi-plats anymore (name a multi-platform game released since this year began that has been as terrible as those early PS3 ports. *crickets* anyone? *crickets*). they cant. point. fingers a the Playstation 3 ANYMORE.

so all they can do is nitpick the little things.

"but, but, it doesn't have cross game invites!"
"but, but, not EVERY game releasing this fall will have Trophies at launch!"
"but, but, Heavy Rain has quick time events in it!"

all i hear from the haters is "WAH WAH WAH." because they've been proven oh so wrong on EVERY aspect of the Playstation 3's capabilities and design. no, it doesn't have every little feature yet, but they are coming, and it's constantly improving via firmware. FREE updates and improvements.

the Playstation 3 is NOT a perfect console. i never expected it to be. but it's certainly not a "disaster," to quote Gabe Newell. and it certainly doesn't need a "do over," to also quote Gabe Newell. and it's only getting better.

Killzone 2 isn't the start of the PS3 proving it's worth, it's simply a continuation of the quality titles PS3 owners have been enjoying for the past 20 months since the system launched.

when you come at something with an obvious intent to dislike it, you will.

i had fun with the PS3's crop of first and second generation games, and it's only improved since launch. it will continue to approve.

let the haters hate, because, in the end, THEY are the ones that are missing out. not us.

[ApocalypseShadow]

these same haters have been limited by dvd,limited by resolution,limited on sound,limited on the amount of online gamers in one game,limited by not having a standard hard drive,limited on when and where you can access content through remote play from anywhere in the world.it just keeps going.

they hate to see how ps3 is and was already said to suprpass the competition in all things when devs got a hold of the system.and sony is leading the way in this thinking.showing devs what is possible...

better lighting
better animation
better textures
better sound
better presentation and motion capture....

just........BETTER

don't even bother trying with these "LIMITED" gamers who can't see past the green.killzone is just one example of what next gen "IS."

just enjoy and f#ck the haters.

apocalypse......

[HuntTheWumpus]

That sure sounds like a lot of hating you are doing in order to get your point across to "f#ck the haters".

[crazy25000]

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[Droid]

no one cares what this game looks like anymore (motion blur tech demo).

show some compelling gameplay. like the first time we all saw footage of Gears 1. it blew the entire gaming community away, and caused many droids to commit mass suicide.

show us something that good. so far, nothing in the gameplay department.

keep trying.

poor droids! :(

[silverchode]

http://www.erichufschmid.ne...

[zo6_lover27]

What is your problem?

Spamming threads that have nothing to do with you, even thread that have nothing to do with either the 360 or ps3.

And you obviously missed the 20min full res game play last week.

http://n4g.com/NewsCom-1892...

[snoopgg]

that game is so old and dated now, stop bringing it up. Oh wait, there hasn't been much to brag about on the 360 lately that looks or plays as good as Killzone 2 will. Just stating the facts. You better hope that Gears2 looks better, or you will just be paying for the same game you played before. Atleast ps3 owners know this game will look and play better then anything on the 360.

[hazardman]

Tobiass are you trying to say that Bioshock was overrated or underrated because it was better than Halo and it's probably going to be better than KZ2 when that comes out...and I was talking to Asher6 who said that those of us hating on KZ2 probably didn't own a PS3...people like you get shot everyday where i'm from..can't mind their own damn business..and no one is threating you..i'm just saying..

[Tobias123]

And I'm just saying that with your attitude of "Hate until proven wrong" is a little narrowminded. We should at least try and hope that a game will be good and not doubt it outright, unless the previews repeatedly point out a game-killing flaw. And I'm not saying whether Bioshock was overrated or underrated, it was one of the best first person shooters last year in my opinion, but I'm sure I'll have people disagreeing with me.

And as for minding my own business, this is a place for discussion, so I can throw my 2 cents in wherever I want. Plus, I was agreeing with you that 360degrees makes a good point, so ya know:P

[hazardman]

well yeah your right you can say whatever you like..i thought you were blasting me..look the reason i hate..let me say dislike cause hate is a powerful word ok..the reason I dislike this game cause PS3 owners (excluding me)seem to think this is the next best thing since slice bread or cheese whiz..look im not denying its potential, but have any of us played it NO..the people who have say its good ok..thats them not me..let the game hit the shelves and then we can all go to war in Forums all over the net and argue all day on why its good and bad...and you know that this game has a lot to live up to..talk about HYPE its Killzone2...

[Tobias123]

Aye you make some good points about hype. To be honest the hype is the most worrying thing about Killzone 2. The first Killzone was hyped to high Heaven and then when it was released and couldn't iron the reviewers clothes in the morning and make them toast they ripped it to shreds, and I don't want to see a repeat of that. Plus there's so many other games coming out soon that I think we can afford to take some time away from scrutinizing Killzone 2 to check out the rest of the titles on offer, and worry more about it when it's a bit closer to release. That being said I'll still check out news about it when it comes out.