At a time when gamers are witnessing the clear differences between the final game, and press materials, published long before its release, it's nice to see that there are developers who actually improve their production each time they're showing it.
Cant wait to see what this game looks like on my 980ti.
I wonder which platform is leading during development, since I haven't heard anything about that, though Xbox One seems to obvious here.
Yeah they developed on the X1 primarily (confirmed by Aaron Greenberg)
I imagine PC is lead and from there they just keep removing features and resolution until it works on X1. It is easy to downgrade but it is hard to upgrade when it comes to effects, textures etc.
Xbox is the lead. PC was started well after. That's why PC was announced so late. They didn't think it would be ready. It says something for the tools that they could obviously reuse most of it. Bodes well for more PC titles hitting Xbox One.
@dc How would that bode well for PC titles hitting the XBO? Wouldn't it be the other way around? If you are certain that Xbox is the lead platform then that means it was ported to PC & not vice versa, so that would only bode well for more XBO titles being easily ported to PC & nothing to suggest the other way around. Also I don't personally subscribe to this entire idea about the PC idea coming late in the game...if you believed that then you'd have to believe that it happened after Phil mentioned that it wasn't likely at Gamescom, which means the PC port happened in 4-5 months. I'm no dev but that sounds awfully fast to me & highly unlikely.
I've seen what happened to Halo 5. I will wait till game launches for final version rather than bullshots.
JB just read some of the articles on this story and listen to major nelson podcast. They tell you you it was announced so late because they didn't think the PC version would be caught up in time. They specifically mentioned not wanting to do certain things because the console version was already over a year into development when PC was started iirc. It bodes well for Xbox and PC if PC was started so late and was able to catch up. That means having everything done on Windows 10 allowed them to re-use a bunch of the code. If most of the code was usable like they've been saying for the last couple of years it means it will be easy to make games available on both platforms cheaply. If you make a game with a 30 million dollar budget and can add an Xbox version for a million more only an idiot doesn't make the Xbox version. Selling three or four million additional copies and making over a hundred million on a one million dollar investment leads to a prosperous company.
Exactly, DC. Win 10 is an ecosystem where coding for multiple platforms is drastically reduced which means porting from PC to XB1, or vice versa, is much easier. Obviously there is some work involved, but it is reduced to weeks instead of months in part because of the reasons you mentioned. The ease of porting code has been talked about by MS on several occasions already.
Isn't the Xbox One just a PC after all? I bet with some config file changes, the same code can run on X1, PC and PS4. I remember the witcher 3 had a folder for each platform in the installation files.
Dude....this game right here. I never owned or "wanted" to own a Xbox console(team Japan 4evAR!), but.... Quantum Break? ScaleBound? CrackDown 3? Rare's Pirate game? man...pretty tempting =D
^Those games coming to PC. No reason to own a Xbox. If you need help I charge $10 a hour if you want me to help you build a PC remotely. I know most of you console guys don't know how to make one.
The lighting on the 2015 version is better, that's why colors look different.
@mikeslemonade "^Those games coming to PC. No reason to own a Xbox." I'm honsestly clueless if there will be physical copies of the exclusives being sold on pc. I remember in the beginning everyone was really upset about the whole drm thing and wanting to be able to have the option to buy and sell physical discs. So wouldn't that be a reason for those people who feel that way to own an xbox1 instead of a pc to play the games?
I will wait till game launches for final version rather than bullshots. You will never even boot up the game, you just spend all your time trolling Xbox articles... Do you even own a PS4 I wonder, or just sit on internet while drinking mikes lemonade??
@jb227 ---> DX12 "Turn 10 Studios has already ported their Xbox One launch title Forza Motorsport 5 to DirectX 12, using a four man team that took four months to get the game running on an PC using NVIDIA graphics at 60 FPS" http://www.neowin.net/news/...
@lack Exactly. SOME people are so engulfed in windows 10 games going from xbox to PC, where in fact its an ecosystem Micro are building. People also need to remember that the pendulum swings both ways. Devs will now devote a miniscule amount of time and resources to port their games to xbox from PC with minimal time and huge margin profits awaiting. Like everyone else, Devs are in it for the money like anyone else, and IF its as easy as stated, then Xbox/PC will be a huge target for Devs. Good times ahead for all gamers.
Lead is on Xbox One of course, since PC wasn't even started on until after August of 2015. That said, kudos to MS for consistently putting out insane news. First, EA Access comes to Xbox One, then monthly feature updates on Xbox One, then E3 rolls around and we get BC and Crackdown 3 cloud based physics.... fast forward and now we got cross-buy for the same price as a regular game!!! At this relentless pace, the end of this generation is going to be insane for Xbox One owners!!!
Have they said yet what's is the max resolution and Fps of the Windows 10 edition?
IT would have to be XONE as I believe the PC version was made after the fact and not first or during the whole development so that is very unlikely its PC, but XONE leading in development.
@LackaJaKane Thats a great point. And also doing it like this gives people options. Instead of forcing people to go one way.
@Lacka 1. The demographic of people who are anal about owning the physical copy is small. 2. There is physical copy. I saw a Doom preorder for the PC that has a physical copy. They exist. Moreover any reason to own a X1 is weak. You have no big factors on why people should own a X1. Maybe they keep the core exclusive like Halo, Forza, and Gears exclusive but those are getting boring to most people.
@Mikes "The demographic of people who are anal about owning the physical copy is small." LMAO what a load of BS, You're delusional.
I concur. Just have a 980 at the moment. Waiting for Pascal GPUs
Sitting with a 970 my self. As you am waiting for Pascal.
Dual Pascals, can i get a what what!!!
Could be PC was the lead and was kept quite so console owners would preorder...I can't find a link to state by MS which system is the lead....
At this point, honestly who cares??? It's already the best looking game this gen, check out the direct feed videos confirmed to be from X1 Why spend over $1000 more for a slightly better experience....POTENTIALLY The 2016 version looks quite a bit better actually...not just a little.
You don't have to spend over a thousand. That's grossly exaggerated. You can play latest games for under 1000 that look better than console versions at 1080p and higher frame rate. It's Dow to whether you wanna buy a pc or not really and if one has an xbox already then yeah just play on that because it already looks phenomenal on the xbox. Great to see a dev achieve more than their original showings instead of having to remove things.
i take it you didnt watch the video included then? looks nothing like it did. while certain parts look better,some of it looks worse like the smoke and other effects
It's definitely not the best looking game this gen. Lol
Lol and they say this is a ps4 site wow disagrees for saying facts you guys are sad
ready to play on my XB1 !
Ready to play on both! I can't wait for more cross buys and saves either. QB looks to be great in so many different ways.
Looks like they added some true color and got rid of the yellowish washed out look.
You and every other PS4 user..... By the way it should look supremely excellent!!
Like i have said numerous times today, go look at my comment history before QB was announced for PC, you and every other paranoid xbox owner on here will find i have talked quite alot about my gaming rig over the past years on N4G.
So you complain about PS gamers like they are your enemy or something. Don't you see how crazy fanboish your comments are? Get a grip man!
Remedy is Microsoft's Naughty Dog
That's a bit of a stretch considering Remedy developed Alan Wake while Naughty Dog developed Uncharted 1,2, 3, and The Last of Us. How can you honesty hold them to the same caliber? Other than Alan Wake Remedys last game was like 2003. They are good developers, but there is no need to exaggerate.
Well for one naughty dog is a much bigger studio than Remedy. Remedy is a much smaller team. They are both really good studios that make games with outstanding graphics, that much can't be denied.
Remedy is definitely up there. I love Alan Wake, I loved the first Max Payne and i'm sure i'll love Quantum Break. My main gripe is I bought an xbox for Quantum break and if i'd known it was gonna come to PC I may not have needed to waste my time. Seems to me, every new day there's less reason to buy an xbox one.
r2oB Yeah I do. Since I played TloU very few games managed to match it's quality. Alan Wake was one of them. Oh and that 2003 game from Remedy is one of the best TPS ever made.
r2oB, are you really comparing how many games the company has put out for the publisher? You must be young. I bet your the same guy that expects his girlfriend to pay as much for your present as you did hers. Remedy gets a blank check from MS to do whatever they like. They have been loyal and produce some amazing games.
Probably just going to be another broken ass PC port per usual. lol
well the card alone is roughly 2x the cost of an xbox one, add the other pc components, looking at a 1k+ computer, so it should look at least 3x-4x better than the xbox, so we'll see if you got your moneys worth.
@maybelovehate "I imagine PC is lead and from there they just keep removing features and resolution until it works on X1. It is easy to downgrade but it is hard to upgrade when it comes to effects, textures etc." No it isn't, and that tells me how much you know about development of assets. You always start with the higher resolution first, and the build the low res off of it. It's not downgrading. It's called optimisation. Now I wait for the disagrees from the kids and clueless who aren't artists and have never worked with any kind of industry standard 2d or 3d application.
That's a big downgrade from the 2015 footage!
Just ordered a new PC myself and thats the same GPU I've chosen. Can't wait to see what it can do
The textures looks better in the 2016 one.
The 2016 build looks better overall and there's a lot more use of colors in the newer build too. Still baffled by what Remedy has been able to achieve on Xbox One. This game is stunning. Imagine Alan wake 2 with this graphics. OMG
Holy Moly on how Alan Wake 2 will look like. The thought of it is just driving me crazy. I expect an awesome trailer of Alan Wake 2 from Remedy at this year's E3. I cant wait!
We all know Alan Wake 2 probably won't hit the X1. Next gen in the next 5-6 years.
@opiewinston: and you know alan wake 2 couldn't come out in the next FIVE years, because why, again?
I don't think Alan Wake will take 5-6 years. Remedy already had a working build of Alan Wake 2 before it got greenlit by Microsoft and Sam has plenty of ideas already thought out for it. Quantum Break looks to technically complex hence why it took so long to develop.
I just played alan wake on pc, with all settings maxed out. For an old game it looked great.
Gotta disagree...the Gamescom build is obviously superior in every aspect...granted a YouTube comparison is nearly pointless but even in this low res video there are obvious differences. I don't see more colors in the newer build, I just see a blue filter that essentially pulls all of the bright vivid color out of the original build, the lighting effects are significantly decreased & shadows are nearly non existent. It honestly looks like they applied a blue filter to either hide a lot of the lesser aspects or the use of the filter diminished their effects drastically...the jacket looks like real leather in the first build but like a flat vinyl in the new one, the bullets hanging in the air during the time manipulation have lost their clear tail effects, the actual time manipulation mechanic has lessened it's use of particles. The game still looks great & I'd hold off until release for judgment anyway even beyond the fact that this is a poor quality video, but the differences are striking & apparent even in it & I honestly don't see how anyone can see any different. It's not about personal taste for visuals, it's about the actual effects & techniques in place, and they are obviously decreased here. This is not a minor drop, it is extremely noticeable to my eye...regardless of whether or not anyone cares about a downgrade from Gamescom to now, it can't be argued that it isn't readily apparent. Seems obvious to me: the video on the left is indicative of the PC version, the video on the right is the XBO version.
I can't handle the thought of Alan Wake 2 with these graphics... gaming heaven
Remedy are perfectionists... They don't half ass things. Alan Wake 2 is a definite 5-6 year dev time. They'll take all the time they need and despite having a playable demo doesn't mean they won't start from 0. They'll probably use the same world builder as AW with a few edits. But if anyone thinks Remedy will rush Alan Wake 2 you're surely mistaken.
@Opie Well said. Sam Lake and his team are super talented. I'm going to take my sweet time playing through this beauty. The storyline looks like something i'm going to really enjoy also have you seen the cutscene where jack brother gets killed? ha.. I keep going through that scene over and over again.. Damn. :)
but some of the environments are removed or replaced. Where is the American football sign in 2016 build?? or i just miss it?
The left one - looks more gritty.
can't wait to play this on XO. XO till I overdose. . -- xoxo
love my xbox one. easily the best console Ive ever had, and ive had them all except for the Wii U and ps4. Not much interested in either of those.
I have them all this gen as well as the last gens...X1 is the best rounded console this gen IMo as well. No hate for the others, but X1 just has the best upside, and the one area where PS4 is better isn't enough to really care about...so it's almost like it doesn't even count.
It's all a matter of preference. For me i agree with pistolsatdawn. The xbox has a better all round experience. I own a ps4 x1 and pc. I rarely use my ps4, and am really only keeping it for uncharted 4.
neither of you own a ps4 imo if you did you would not being saying the cr*p like that there are far more games on the ps4 and more diverse and therefore a much better rounded experience than the xbox1 and much more too come i still like the xbox1 but anyone who owns both consoles who is honest must admit that the ps4 is the better console in all aspects of gaming/hardware.
Well I have them all and I agree, the xbox one is the better console this generation by far. Better controller, network and most importantly games.
@raymantalk1. So because i think the x1 has a better experience i don't own a ps4. To sum up my reasons. I prefer the xbox controller. The xbox allows me to download apps from the us and other countries that are not available to me simply by changing my country settings. I can use amazon usa etc and i can't do this on my ps4. It also has more available apps. I dont own a 360 but i now get to pay 360 games. As for gaming the advantage of the ps4 is its gpu so 900p vs 1080p. I own a pc so can play all xbox one games at 1080p 60fps by streaming it. This also means if my tv is in use i can still play xbox one games. The ps4 is a great console, its just not my no 1 choice.
I want all u xbox fans to tell me exactly what makes the xbone the best console like really cause i don't see it