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Wii're Sick of Wii Graphics

Brittany Vincent from GamePlasma writes:

"I, for one, am not going to be hopping on this waggle-my-Wii-remote bandwagon. Having been a Nintendo fan since my inception as a gamer, I will be avoiding the shovelware that is rapidly flooding store shelves and sticking to gems like No More Heroes and Nights: Journey of Dreams. Of course, halfway through I might pick up my GameCube controller and attempt to fly NiGHTS. It's not like I would be reminded otherwise."

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Zerodin3409d ago

Try blaming the "We're just gonna give the Wii version the same graphics as the PS2 version." companies.

nieto3409d ago

i haven't seen a single Wii tittle that could top God of War 2.

vashivihang3408d ago

SMG, MP3, upcoming CONDUIT

ChickeyCantor3409d ago (Edited 3409d ago )

It's easy you dont want it? Don't buy it.
There are enough rants on the Internet that sound simulair to yours.
No one is forcing you. You want to get Oblivion or Dead rising (original copies) for a cheaper price go get them.
There is no point in whining about it, its a choice people make and in the End it's their own blame.

"Downplaying graphics and gameplay is unwarranted."
...=/....
Not all games turned out crap, he is just ranting like a Mofo.

edit: I noticed how his title was just to get some attention, because only a small part of his article is about the " gfx ".

dxmnecro3409d ago

Why would they charge more money for the same game, but with worse graphics and what could be even worse gameplay?

ChickeyCantor3409d ago (Edited 3409d ago )

Because there is still work behind it and you need to pay those people too.(however how much they need to be paid and the profit on top of that is up for debate)
The "worse" is the flaw of the developer, Wii games do not have to look like Ps2 games.

Edit: "more" money?....Like i said its your choice, you dont want it dont buy it. Is this not the reason why most of n4g members DONT have a Wii in the first place? They chose not to buy one...yet care to rant about it XD.

dxmnecro3409d ago (Edited 3409d ago )

So we should pay them more to reproduce a game with lesser graphics on a platform that has effectively been around longer than the Xbox 360?

I purchased a Wii at launch and I was thoroughly satisfied with it at the time. However, after all of the promises that Nintendo made about games, there is a complete lack of titles that can be called anything other than shovelware.

Edit: Essentially Nintendo lacks the quality they once had with their other systems.

ChickeyCantor3409d ago (Edited 3409d ago )

SO Nintendo's promise is that what the third party developers have shat out?

" So we should pay them more"
Please read what i'm saying : You DON'T have to buy it. No one is forcing you. If you buy it you should not be complaining. If you think its too much then why buy it in the first place?

And i know you will reply with something like:
"They have the right once they purchased it"
And how would this make sense then? If you got it you know what you paid for.

Nintendo still delivers their traditional content, the only thing they added was stuff like Wii-sports and such. It's suddenly like if Nintendo does nothing but Wii-franchises. They still deliver their normal games, you can not deny this.

vashivihang3409d ago (Edited 3409d ago )

you= Why would they charge more money for the same game, but with worse graphics and what could be even worse gameplay?

me= you do know that on earth, wii games cost less than 360/ps3 games?

you= So we should pay them more to reproduce a game with lesser graphics on a platform that has effectively been around longer than the Xbox 360?

me= also on earth, wii came 1 year after 360.

as sidar said, nintedo has produceed more 1st party games than 360/ps3 combined since 2005 on wii and DS (or even wii alone)

and how do you know taht gameplay will be worse? have you played the game yet?

you claim to own the wii yet you know nothing about it. you like many people are just jumping on the wii hate bandwagon without any rational thoughts

AllroundGamer3409d ago

now who could have guessed, that you would comment as the first on this topic... :D

dxmnecro3409d ago (Edited 3409d ago )

That's why I said "could be worse." Obviously the game is not out yet. However, information made available hints that the Wii version of Dead Rising will have less zombies. In my mind, that would equal worse gameplay.

Second, yes the Wii was released a year after the Xbox 360. However, it is also based off the gamecube architecture. How would developers not have an easy time of going from gamecube development to Wii.

Just because Nintendo has released more first party games than the other consoles, that doesn't mean they are better games.

I am as much a fan of the Wii as the next person, but it is painfully obvious that associating the Nintendo brand with quality is no longer fully accurate.

vashivihang3409d ago

That's why I said "could be worse." Obviously the game is not out yet. However, information made available hints that the Wii version of Dead Rising will have less zombies. In my mind, that would equal worse gameplay.

au contraire, they are aiming for 100+ zombies on screen at once

Second, yes the Wii was released a year after the Xbox 360. However, it is also based off the gamecube architecture. How would developers not have an easy time of going from gamecube development to Wii.

well somrthing must be up because 3rd aprty cant seem to get a hang of it so it could not be same as gamecube hardware. idk. but games like galaxy, i have not seen anything like that on gamecube

Just because Nintendo has released more first party games than the other consoles, that doesn't mean they are better games.

what i meant was to respond to people saying taht nintendo has completely alienated their core base

I am as much a fan of the Wii as the next person, but it is painfully obvious that associating the Nintendo brand with quality is no longer fully accurate.

oh no, i thnk nintedo still has quality titles like galaxy, MP3, zelda etc.

ChickeyCantor3409d ago

Because its the same architecture does not mean developers will magically get all the extra out.
GCN was never Maxed out so trying to get everything out is still a task for most developers.

" In my mind, that would equal worse gameplay. "
I disagree, the "fun" that could come from the Wii-mote could balance this out or even make the gameplay more fun.

Bubble Buddy3409d ago

At least they charge the games $10 bucks less. Though most games I wouldn't waste $10 on.

MikeGdaGod3409d ago

graphics are ALMOST as important to me as gameplay.

you can call me a graphics whore or whatever all you want but that what i look for in consoles. i want something that pushes everything to the next level. i wouldn't buy a console that has graphics that are two generations old just because the controller for it wiggles. i don't care what company makes it.

i've loved Nintendo since the beginning but they have nothing to offer me since the N64. that was their last great console and the last one i bought from them.

Cheeseknight283409d ago

"Nintendo still delivers their traditional content, the only thing they added was stuff like Wii-sports and such. It's suddenly like if Nintendo does nothing but Wii-franchises. They still deliver their normal games, you can not deny this."

Yes, I can deny this. I bought a Wii the day it came out, and stayed outside a Sam's Club for 4 hours just to pick up this "revolutionary device". While it was very neat to play around with the first year or so, I then realized that it was going downhill.

You claim that Nintendo still delivers traditional content, but all I see from them is Super Mario Galaxy, Twilight Princess (Which is essentially a port of the Gamecube editiion), Metroid Prime 3 (Dumbed down to only use one beam, now all you have to do is move and rapidly press that A button!), Super Paper Mario (Another port of what was originally a Gamecube game), Fire Emblem (Which still doesn't have voice over. 3-4 cutscenes is NOT impressive), and Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Which still has clones and adds in a barely replayable story mode and slower combat)

What happened to Pikmin 3? Kid Icarus sequel/remake? The Kirby sidescroller (Once announced on the Gamecube 3 years ago)? Where are the Star Fox and F-Zero Wii games? Sure Miyamoto SAID that those first few, along with a new Mario and Zelda, "are in development." But really, there's no reason to even believe that because we haven't heard a thing about the gameplay or seen a single screenshot (With the exception of the Kirby game, which is rumored to be vaporware). For all we know, he could have just mentioned that so that the hardcore crowd wouldn't abandon Nintendo after their pitiful e3 showing.

What's coming out for Fall/Winter? Wario Land: Shake It is coming in around a month, but I'm not that impressed with it so far... I mean, it probably could have been made on DS or even the GBA! The rest is just casual fare, which I'm sure will be eaten up, but that leaves us hardcore Nintendo fans in the cold. I'll play Animal Crossing, but I'm not sold on the idea of pretending I'm playing an instrument by holding it in a certain position.

TLDR: I'm not buying that Nintendo is still giving the hardcore gamers games. Until I see something, I'll continue to be skeptical.

ChickeyCantor3409d ago (Edited 3409d ago )

@cheeseknight
Nice way to contradict yourself.
All those games you mentioned are Traditional Nintendo content.(No matter how they changed the settings, its still their traditional content)
How can you deny it if you just proved that they are indeed making games they always have been making? It does not matter what these games have or not. Those games you listed are Nintendo's games that are in developement every generation. Thus making it their traditional content.

"What happened to Pikmin 3? Kid Icarus sequel/remake? The Kirby sidescroller (Once announced on the Gamecube 3 years ago)? Where are the Star Fox and F-Zero Wii games?"

Who says they wont come out?
Starfox made it late to the party with the GCN
So did F-zero.
And Kid iracus would not even be mentioned in your post if he was never included in Brawl. Because they dont release any info does not mean they arent working on it.

What are you trying to say? Nintendo not going to bring out these games?
What is your point really? What CAN you deny?
All i hear you say is that Nintendo wont bring out the games they always have been putting out.
You just think they wont make their traditional games.

Funny thing is with the GCN, the games were never released this rapidly. Eventhough Zelda being a port, Mario/Metroid being released so fast after Eachother.

edit:
"he could have just mentioned that so that the hardcore crowd wouldn't abandon Nintendo after their pitiful e3 showing.
"
Do you even realize how illogical this sounds?
If he says something like that and eventually say they are not in developement...do you even realize how much damage that will cause?
If you think this now:
"yeah well by that time they started the developement"
Which will be another contradiction to your post.

Cheeseknight283408d ago (Edited 3408d ago )

"All those games you mentioned are Traditional Nintendo content.(No matter how they changed the settings, its still their traditional content)" "It does not matter what these games have or not."

I don't care whether or not it IS Traditional content or not, I was pointing out what the article itself was talking about - Nintendo is getting lazy. The game are not as good as their predecessors, with the sole exception of Super Mario Galaxy. Even if we are getting 'Traditional content' it's just not the same anymore, because of the broad audience Nintendo feels the need to cater to, and thus has to cut production on main games so they can focus on multiple audiences at once.

"And Kid iracus would not even be mentioned in your post if he was never included in Brawl. "

What point are you trying to make? That I haven't played Kid Icarus before, and I only brought it up because of Brawl? I actually own a copy of the game and knew about Pit long before he was even ANNOUNCED to be in Brawl. The development was rumored, but no information or a confirm/deny was ever put out.

"All i hear you say is that Nintendo wont bring out the games they always have been putting out.
You just think they wont make their traditional games. "

Never did I say that they were NOT going to make their traditional games, simply that they will either A) Dumb them down for the Wii B) Port them from the Gamecube or C) Hide the information even though the hardcore Nintendo crowd needs something to anticipate. The only thing I said was that I doubted they were in development, because Miyamoto didn't show proof that they were. He could say that they're hard at work, but they really could not be starting the development on the sequels until next Spring. There's no way to prove it, either way. Word of mouth is hard to believe, especially after Reggie confirmed Brawl was coming out in December and later claimed that the Hardcore crowd would not be abandoned at e3.

"Funny thing is with the GCN, the games were never released this rapidly. Eventhough Zelda being a port, Mario/Metroid being released so fast after Eachother."

This is exactly my point. Nintendo is getting lazy - they rush out the game even when they aren't ready, or haven't been tuned enough. Metroid Prime 3 was shorter and felt easier than all of it's predecessors. Because they have such a broad audience to cater to, they have to release more types of games, and thus, cut production times on core games. Iwata himself said that Wii Music was the last game drawn up in Miyamoto's plan and he would have to "think of new ideas now" which makes one wonder, why did they release everything at once or not see that there's a hole in the release schedule for late '08 early '09?

"Starfox made it late to the party with the GCN. So did F-zero."

The Gamecube was released in November 2001. SFA was released September 2002. How is that "late to the party"? The same applies with F-Zero, it was released September 2003, a full 3 years before the Wii launch.

My point was to simply highlight what the article was talking about. You took the other side. Is that so hard to figure out? There's really no sense in my trying to argue my point though, because instead of you bringing up valid points and acknowledging most of my post, you simply chose to find faults with parts of what I said and that's exactly what I apparently have to do to get mine across.

Voiceofreason3408d ago

Wii controls made Metroid much easier. Game didnt really change at all, you were just given a better way to interact with it and control it.

sumfood4u3408d ago

lol I think its funny that it took them a year to finally realize this!

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Viktor E3409d ago

Though,I'm pretty fed up with the lackluster visuals of Multiple Xbox 360 titles,the latest being Too Human http://celinediontoohuman.y...

Eiffel3409d ago

This is not even 360 related, effing troll.

Ricdog3409d ago

What about the N64? It had some of the greatest games ever, Mario64, Legend of Zelda, Goldeneye, Starfox64. The N64 was in my opinion nintendo's best console and hardly anybody bought it. You guys always say that it had cheap sales and yet it had the best games. So if u guys wont buy a Nintendo console even if it had awesome games, than dont complain about the wii.

vashivihang3409d ago

as soon as people saw cut scenes of ff7 (no offense to ff7 fans) they ignored nintedo. it seems like people will only like you if you are in last place so that they can pity you

ChickeyCantor3409d ago

It's illogical for Nintendo to ignore the so called "core" gamers.
Why on earth would they want to miss out that money?
They already have sh/t loads of money but saying "no" to money is bad for a company.

Miyamoto also said that he is better at making traditional games i see no reason why Wii-music is Nintendo's future.

Leathersoup3409d ago

You're missing what Nintendo's doing. They are DONE with the "core" gamer. They've found a demographic that will buy anything that looks half fun and won't complain about the graphics.

Why the hell would they want to cater to the largest whiniest customer group out there? They're making money and they couldn't care less about whether or not you've been a loyal customer for x number of years.

Your loyalty has been duly noted, please don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

madjedi3409d ago

@2.1 no rpgs on the n64 is what made this until then nintendo fan become a sony fan, and that was before ff7 was out.

tda-danny3409d ago

you 100% correct! They tried to cater to the hardcore gamers with the N64 & gamecube, pushing out all their classic IP's (which were really good, i'm not slamming them), and as a result the N64 had decent sales, but was dominated by the PS1, and the GC was a disaster.

If they Released another consol that was as technically advance (processing power wise) as the 360 & PS3 with nothing to set them apart other then their First party games, they would have had to call it quits this gen, similar to sega last year.

So now that they have found huge success (best selling consol this gen to date) in a new market, they will start to move away from relying on their classic IP's, and we'll see more Wii Sports & mini game compilations until the end of the Wii's lifecycle.

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TOSgamer3409d ago

He bought one and is a part of the Wii Bandwagon by default. He should of done his homework first. If he didn't then that's his fault. Personally I think the Wii is-- not very good to put it kindly. But hey, I did my research before buying my systems and I'm happy with them. Maybe he should of done the same.

dxmnecro3409d ago

There is no bandwagon if you purchase something from launch that looks interesting. Heck, even the Xbox 360 could have failed the games department and then you would call it the 360 bandwagon.

Also, its a SHE not a HE.

TOSgamer3409d ago (Edited 3409d ago )

SHE said that SHE searched for months to find one. So there were no screen shots or specs available for the Wii even months after launch? SHE is mostly complaining about the graphics after all. Which again makes it HER own damn fault. Capisce?

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