Backwards compatibility is many things but is it a killer app for any console?
Dunno, but it's dope to have. And as an mp guy, merging the 360 and x1 communities will increase the overall online population of some games. You can bet I'm hopping on bo1 when it's available as well as mw2 if it makes it. As a guy who loves ground war I hope mw2 gets on bc. I remember there only being a couple matches available last time I played, and only a handful that could be joined.
It's very obvious that it does matter. Both MS and Sony have admitted that BC is one of the most requested features. MS and Sony have both spent significant money and resources to allow ppl to play previous gen games on the new consoles. We are already seeing the increased value of new game releases combined with the previous version. In some cases, like Fallout, the previous version scored much higher on metacritic.
I'd definitely be using backwards compatibility a lot if the PS4 would allow me to play all the PS3 games I bought off the PSN store. I've been dying for a good racing game to play for example, and would love to be able to fire up Burnout Paradise or Wipeout HD when I've got the itch. Since the Uncharted Collection completely dropped the ball when it comes to content, I'd love to go back and play some UC2/UC3 multiplayer and co-op occasionally as well, nevermind all the other great games.
@crimzon Uncharted Collection did not "drop the ball" when there's 3 whole games you can play. How is there a content lack when there are 3 very highly rated games put on one disk? Games known for their amazing single player campaign. Do you want to know why they didn't include multiplayer in UC? (If that's what you're referring to by content). The reason it wasn't included is simple. Adding an extensive multiplayer mode on UC, would divide the fanbase. Those new or accustom to the multiplayer on uc, would have a reason to remain there, or splitting time between both u4 multiplayer and uc multiplayer. Especially when the 2 are 5 months apart on release. That's like saying Call of duty will now release twice a year. That's dumb. Dividing the mltiplayet fanbase like that is asinine. Especially when the add on Is not what the game is known for. So all those clamoring about no mp in uc, that is why, there's no reason to even waste money adding a multiplayer game that will just burn you out on u4 multiplayer, or will divide the uncharted mp fanbase, or will make uc or even u4 multiplayer untouched by some gamers. Having no multiplayer in uc will just make us want to play the u4 multiplayer that much more, and clearly that means more sales, it's an intelligent move overall even if the consumer immediately disagrees at the fact. Plus, those who have uc, get to test u4 beta. I see no legitimate complaint here as always.
@Dee_Blessed Your whole argument falls apart when you take into account that The Last of Us Remastered had multiplayer. I know you're saying that because that's what ND used as their official excuse, but the mere existence of TLOU:R proves that incorrect and demonstrates that they were lying. If they cared so much about not dividing their fanbases, they would have left multiplayer out of TLOU:R. They used a poor excuse for a sloppy remaster, plain and simple. It's not just the lack of competitive multiplayer that stings either, but the cooperative campaigns as well. Can't call those "whole games" when there's gigantic chunks of content missing, and that's exactly why the lack of backwards compatibility is so awful, because the crappy remaster wouldn't matter if we had the full games to play instead.
"Both MS and Sony have admitted that BC is one of the most requested features." It was at launch. Now? Not so sure.
With the recent release of halo 5,cod black ops 3,rise of the tomb raider, battle front and fallout 4 you seriously think anyone really gives a shit about playing older games from last gen?! Lol! It's a feature the xbone fanboys will brag about, but will barely ever get used.
It's fantastic for someone like myself that didn't own a 360 until one was given to me at the generation's end. I also love the 4 free games per month on Xbox One with BC GWG.
Nice! More games for you to check out. And yeah, 4 games on gwg. Them being on the the X1 gives me personally a bigger incentive to play them. I haven't played any of the 360 gwg games in months lol while getting all the x1s. I've just been doing the download method from the website.
It matters to those that want and will use it, and that's all that matters!
It's a nice feature but I don't really want to visit old games without some extra polish.
So you just like remasters then?
Remasters and upresed ports. Something similar to how it works on PC.
Nothing wrong with remasters. Those who are using the "I never owned a PS3" strawman argument fail to realize that even if the PS4 was backwards compatible with PS3, you would still need to buy PS3 games to use the feature, right?
@IGiveHugs2NakedWomen However, buying those PS3 games would be a lot cheaper than buying remasters or renting them of PS Now, plus you would own the disc.
Why do you even play on console then?
What has that got to do with anything? :s
It absolutely matters in my opinion. It is the end of last generation and some good games have come out that I've missed. Now with BC I can now go back and play some of these games. Like Stick of Truth I missed it but now I am currently playing it in between my games of Fallout 4, that is great.
Stick of truth is up there for me too. I also really wanted to play assassins creed rogue, as I sold 360 to get one. Hope it makes it on the list soon
I'm sure it will once ubisoft agrees to it most likely after the sales of the newest "Creed" die down.
It's a big deal.
It must have mattered as it was the most requested feature. As for me, I love that I will soon be able to remove the 360 out of the TV area.
Same here I removed mine out of the living room and put it next to all my old systems in the back office. only the Xbox one and ps4 belong under my living room TV. I'm a little OCD with things like that. I don't like clutter so Backwards compatibility is amazing for me.
Its an very nice feature. Especially for those that have alot of 360 digital games bought when they were on sale but never finished them. I hope Ubisoft does give us the Far Cry Games for example. All 360 Games besides those who now have broke publishers could join BC, but some will not make their games available for it. My Guess is next month another 100 games, in January another 100 and in February a patch so that it's possible to buy 360 games on the One. They said no patches till then. So that's why February 😉
I finally found a digital foundry report of better performance on some last gen games on x1. That's nice. Otherwise I have my ps360 and 4kpc sitting beside the x1. (Sold ps4 at release, will buy again next bf)
Whats to disagree about? Oh I see.
It's a very nice to have. As they add more it will have more value for sure but we also should keep in check just how important it is by itself. Most upgrading their consoles (there are still millions waiting) are going to do so because of new games that attract them. That is something neither MS nor Sony should lose sight of. This feature coupled with new exciting games does become a very powerful marketing reason to upgrade. You can rest assured that MS for the next console gen will 100% have BC included day one in some fashion given the response this option has generated. Had they had this day one... the landscape of things likely would be much more even.
I agree that it's very nice to have. But I also don't think it's the huge deal some make it out to be.
Opinions Spotie... I am loving this feature and think it's a godsend. Now I can hunt for cheap Xbox 360 games to play on my Xbox One between major releases. As you said, it's "very nice." Any very nice feature is a big deal. :)
Huge deal for me. Able to use xb1 features like streaming, able to use my Elite controller, 2 extra Gold games on XB1 via BC every month, extra AAA games like Fallout 3 and Just Cause 2 as freebies with new game purchase, and have all my previous digital titles that are BC like Shadow Complex showing up on my "My Game" menu is awesome. Lastly, I can spend my hard earned money on more AAA titles made for this gen instead of having to allocate some of it to visit old games with just some extra polish. When you think about it, some remasters even toil out features like MP while ALL the BC titles let you play MP even with last gen console and let you use all your previous bought DLCs, continue achievements and save games as well. That is HUGE! WELL done MS that you guys listen to the most requested feature on this gen consoles and implemented it.
Took the words right out of my mouth. Fantastic addition to any new console. People spend thousands on these libraries, they want to retain that and be able to play next gen games on one device.
Couldn't care less about bc.
It's a big deal for me. That being said, Microsoft has done a terrible job at rolling out this backwards compatibility. I only have one or two games on that BC list and we still don't know exactly when they will add more games. It's stupid having to wait to play games you already own. It would have made more sense to release BC when a significant number of retail games were playable.
It is tough because it isn't true BC. True BC is like the Wii playing Gamecube games, put in the disc and they just work. X1 BC needs games to be recompiled to run on X1 one by one as the architecture is so different (which is why you need to download the game digitally even if you have the disc).
Look on the bright It's stupid to have to play old games you already own!..you don't with this. Games added each month. Since you feel a FREE service is not good enough and caters to your specific needs, maybe drop Microsoft an email telling them what games you have..this may speed up any problems you have. I think to roll out over 100 titles the first month is an impressive feat. Patience is required,..as they say..greatness awaits?..lol
It depends on the user. For those still in last gen it gives incentive to upgrade. For me it isn't a big deal as I still have my 360. Since buying the PS4 at launch though I simply don't have the time to go back to my X360. There are games I have for it that I still haven't beat and want to but my backlog on PS4 is so huge I doubt I will ever have time. I am into the Witcher 3 and have FO4 to get into, and about 10 PS4 games I still want but haven't bought as I have no time for them yet.
It didn't mean anything to me when my original PS3 had backwards compatible, and it sure as heck wouldn't matter one bit if PS4 had bc. If I had a X1 the bc wouldn't mean anything to me either. It's not a feature I'd use, nor particularly want tbh. I've my old consoles and favourite games on standby if I get an urge to go retro.
I hate rhetorical questions.
It matters to a minute degree in my opinion. If Im being aware of the trend in last gen, I could easily theorize that backwards compatibility would be gone for next gen. Thus, I would keep my old gen system to play old gen games on and get my new gen system to play new gen games on, as I am currently doing, it's really THAT simple. But my theory is wrong as xbox now has backwards compatibility, in a very cool way. But again it's no big deal in the end because I have a ps3 and ps4. For those that sold theis, then my theory is you more than likely sold your gmnes. And technically would have to buy the games over again. Which serves no overall purpose when you could've kept your console and played those games on them, IF you wanted to play older games in the 1st place. But if you still own your old gen console, and the games, I see no reason for EXCESSIVE celebration, when you could just hook up your old console. Both ways I'm confused on how this is such a huge topic. Important yes. But not as big as some are making it to be. If Sony added backwards compatibility I would be happy oh yes indeed, but not to the point where I feel the need to brag and boast and bring it up every other day. I love nostalgia, but man I got a ps4 to play new games ...idk (forgive my rant)
Of course, while those low profile great games are available for BC, and at the lowest price, thats a big pro.
Hardly anyone used it on ps3, not that many on Wiiu and it wont be something most use on Xbone (theres statson all this out there). Its an exaggerated feature fans laud using hyperbole to make their system sound better and it was something Microsft used as strategy to make themselves more appealing after Sony out the gate has been destroying them in sales. BC is a good option but stop hyperbole lol
Hardly, I currently own an XOne & a Wii U and if the PS4 was to announce backwards compatibility I would buy one in a heartbeat. However, as it is now the only PS4 games I would be interested in are Uncharted 4 & the Jak & Daxter reboot. I even own one of the PS4 20th anniversary controllers to use eventually, but as over now, to me it's not worth buying the console.
I would have liked it if it worked better. Maybe Stick of Truth runs abnormally bad but it was unplayable due to the framerate and audio/video sync issues.
I would say it does matter.. after seeing the speculation of a 1tb PS4 bundle with only PS3 games included....
Ultimately no, not to most users. It's a very vocal minority that cares and many people always discuss it like it's all they care about and then in the end never ever use it. In reality I reality most people play current games and those who really love playing older games have the older platforms. Sure, if you have it the chance to use it is there and you are mor elikely to replay an older game, but if it's not there it's hardly ever going to be missed; dispite what people always say in these backwards compatibility debates. i couldn't care less.
I think a lot of people expect backwards compatibility, these days. I myself love it, but I could live without it. But majority of people I know, say they like being able to play their old games on a new console. I think it does help sell consoles and I imagine this was partly done to help increase sales for Microsoft. It was a smart move.
Playing through Torchlight, really cool game I owned but never got around to playing.
Backwards compatibility...Bought my Xbox 360 thinking i'd be able to play some of my old Xbox games on it. Once I was into my 360, I no longer cared about my original Xbox games. Backwards compatible PS3. Plays PS1 and PS2 games. Played the PS1 Silent Hill a few times. Never played a PS2 game on it. Xbox One. Sold it a few months ago because i'm just not into it. I don't care about backwards compatibility. It's an interesting idea, but I think MOST users don't care about it.
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