Michael Pachter's predictions for July consoles sales in the US show 360 ahead of PS3 at 275,000 to 250,000.
Im pretty sure the Xbox 360 outsold the ps3 by more than that. We know for sure that August will see heavy Xbox 360 sales too.
Yeah but PS3 Fanbois will be in denial like always.
yeah like the denial about the 33% failure rate. MS it's just toying with you bots. they just want to make money and don't care about the readability of their products. i mean you're supporting a company that it is selling broken systems and you say that us ps3 user are in denial? come on.
we all know how good patcher at guessing games! i will bookmark this page to remind u about ur pretty sure 360 outsold ps3!
nieto, thank you for proving my point.
Hey Droids... what the hell happened to judgment day? you all counted it down as the end of the Xbox and blaaaaaaah, ain't sh!t happened. LOL... now your 3rd in three countries, and your game sales again are on a decline. F**king 360 actualy has Japan over the PS3, wont last but you are truly 3rd at the moment. LOL... the MGS4 countdown was like the Y2K thing, everybody counted it down and when it got to 2000, nothing happened.
Michael mails out these predictions just before the NPD every month. We received them directly from him by email. They're part of his NPD research note.
@imad You expect people to take you seriously when you don't even know how to spell McCain? Not saying your right or wrong. Just that someone not knowing something that simple makes you question the point they are trying to make. I am assuming English is not your native language.
I don't blame you for wanting to inform people of Global causes, but I doubt your going to get any help from a gamers forum. Most of us are too busy managing our gaming additiction to help out the poor Georgians. I saw it on CNN, it's pretty messed up. To his Credit, our lame duck president actually said something to Putin during the olympics.
IT'S A LIE!!!!!
Well if thats what he believes im guessing the PS3 outsold the 360. But next month will be different with the temporary pricecut, and 60GB models in full effect the 360 will most likely outsell the PS3. Then come Sept with the reported $199 pricecuts expect it to continue to outsell the PS3 up to and pass Dec, with all the AAA exclusives like Fable and Gears along with holiday bundles this is almost certain
Nah. AAA Titles? You say Fable and Gears, what are the other ones? *cups ear* I can see the 360 winning for August but after that thing's will be back to PS3.
You say that like the PS3 isn't getting any heavy hitters this holiday season.
But not a price cut and in this economy price point is more important than ever.
So your trying to say that it will beat the PS3 in Aug and then with the priceut of 199,299,399 to all system its sales will actually decrease, while the PS3s will rise eventhough no new games have been released or no pricecut has been given Great logic there...
If only games would get cheaper because of sales figures I would actually start caring... Isn't weird that HW gets cheaper, install base grows but games still cost the same?? and I don't think all games costs 50, 100 millions to develop... It's about time for USD 40-45 games.
what economy? In America, the economy is in trouble, but it seems video game sales are not affected.
I like how, in spite of the first Fable failing to live up to the hype, the second one is guaranteed to be a AAA exclusive in your eyes. Let's not even get into the "exclusive" aspect, as it's all but 100% guaranteed both gears and fable will show up on PC in 6 months to a year. I'd love to hype the hell out of KillZone 2, but im no fool. Since everything ive seen shows it to be a spectacular game, I remember GG failed to deliver anything but an average game with their previous outing. At best, I remain optimistic.
We're talking consoles, not games. People who already own consoles tend to be gamers and will continue to find the money to purchase games...it's their hobby. It's the new console buyers that will consider price point above everything...it's a huge reason for the Wii's success and that's where the growth opportunities are. Do you think that the Wii would STILL be hard to find in stores if it cost $500?
yea you're right. How dare you set me straight! Have a bubble
GG's previous outing was not Killzone 1 but Killzone: Liberation, which was a good game. I think Killzone 2 will be good. I think it will get 96s and some 80s because sites like gamedaily and eurogamer will deduct points for stuff like: It's linear. All you do is shoot. There's no variety. It's on the PS3. That floor texture in that one room on the 5th level looks low-res. There are going to nitpick this game to pieces. Ofcourse the 360 should sell more. It's a full $100 cheaper than the cheapest Ps3. I think when it's $199, it should outsell the Ps3 a great deal but if it doesn't, it's game over for MS because if you can outsell your competition despite being half their price, you are screwed.
Bubble back at ya
Wasn't aware that they had made any games other than KillZone and some Vietnam game that was easy to forget about. Never been one to play handhelds. See, with a studio like Insomniac, Sony Santa Monica, Naughty Dog (yeah, i'm mainly a PlayStation-er) I'll just assume whatever game they have coming out will be good, as they have a great track record. GG still, in my opinion, has to prove themselves. I'm going to stay cautiously optimistic about KZ2, as I think and want the game to be good, but the studio has more check marks in the bad column than good. I was burned by Free Radical this past May. That one still stings =/
Why does news keep getting posted about which one sells the most? it really doesn't matter. As long as they continue to sell and the industry grows its a good thing, right? On topic, looks like its going to be good sales for july for all systems. But this is Pachter, so take it with a grain of salt. I have a feeling this holiday season is going to be huge for the gaming industry.
that is how things would work. But unfortunately some people feel like they need to see numbers and figures in order to justify their purchases.
dakid tell that to a fanboy especaly the 360 ones who look for anything about 360 beating the ps3
"But unfortunately some people feel like they need to see numbers and figures in order to justify their purchases. " why is it important to see these numbers? I think you got it wrong... most people on this site already justified their purchases with the games they already played... it's more about Final Fantasy XIII and others that if the xbox 360 would be selling poorly we wouldn't have... better sells and larger marketplace translate to more developer support... which means more games for the leading console... so, it's ok if you don't care but don't be mistaken the games your console of choice will have in the future are completely tied to these numbers (unless they are first party)... or let me guess... do you think 3rd party developer would be making games on the xbox 360 if it wouldn't be selling? this generation I was hopping for a tied between the PS3 and the xbox 360 in order to get as much support as we can from developers... the xbox 360 beating the PS3? well that's a plus... this just mean developer will use the xbox 360 as a lead platform and prioritize my console of choice... I'm sure Sony fans would love that... wouldn't you?
First off, noticed that I said "some"......to purposely make the point that not everybody thinks in this manner. Now if a store has only room for 40 consoles and they decide to get 30 of Console A and 10 of Console B.......well if Console A sells better on the market then the company feels justify in placing more of console A on the shelf. Same with gamers...if they see that a particular console is leading in sales, it makes them feel like they are on the winning side, and therefore feel justified (validated) in their purchase of that particular console...especially this early in the race. Games are not always a justifying factor.....example: When purchasing a tv from best buy you had a choice of a free bluray player. Some got the ps3...why? Because it has the capability of doing more...and it was justified without having to purchase a game.....cause of internet browswer, music function and other things outside of gaming. As far as your last question...does not really matter to me, as I own all three consoles......
yea really... those silly xbots... all you have to do is look at the comment sections on here to see how ignorant they are... ohwait...
Note the word prediction.
I honestly excpected more 360 sales with the price cut, i'm suprised its so close.
360 sold more in US, PS3 sold more worldwide. What do you think is better?
well definitely being 3rd place is better :)
well i dont live in america i live in scotland and us scots unlike the americans know the worlds bigger than ower country unlike the avrege 360 fanboy who thinks if it sells more in america its winning but they dont care bout worldwide sales
North America = around 330 million people Rest of the world = around 6.3 billion more How's that for a start?
I'm from scotland too. So you know that here the 360 rules. The 360 does very well in the english speaking world. And as I speak english I like the fact that most people on Live speak it too.
Yeah, it's always nice to understand whatever racial epithet that 11 year old is calling you as he head shots you for the umpteenth time.
xBox 360 ONLY 25,000 more??? With a Price cut to??? ;-D ;-D ;-D ;-D HOW SAD!!! ;-D In some places the xBox 360 is cheaper than the Wii(TOY)and it's still not beating the Wii(TOY)!!! ;-D ;-D ;-D (No where near it) Funny that!!! ;-D +If PS3 was cheaper than the Wii(TOY)it would sell more than the Wii(TOY)easily!!!;) xBox 360 = FAILURE!!! ;-D
Patcher is always wrong.
so is vgchart. but we still get a threads about their weekly sales predictions every week.
360 only ahead by 20k units with that price cut?
There was no price cut in July. But still I don't trust Pather. Wait for NPD numbers
they should be outselling the ps3.......but note...the 40gb are missing... and most likely will be until september...there should really be no competition until then.....still...25,000 isn't a big margin though.
Why are people treating this as fact? Wait for NPD, Pachter doesnt exactly have the best track record.
his track record seems to be, well getting better I reckon, according to you and others. don't worry we'll get one.
I always like how the ps3/xbox fanboys accuse the xbox/ps3 fanboys of doing the very things themselves do. In this case endorsing information when it only benefits their console, while saying the other is the one doing it.
So they had a price cut? Or they're getting a price cut in September? And they are bringing out new Sku's again? And what not? Then PS3 has shortages, they are replacing the 40GB? It doesn't really matter right now, the holiday is what will matter.
Like time I checked, he's not that different from us. Only difference is that he gets paid to think. How exactly does this make news-worthy?
every single month since april. screw him!!
I'll wait for NPD
that Pachter is always right. Right?
I'm surprised with just NG2 for 360 and massive 360 killing title MGS4 on ps3 and just one month and 360 is on top again. Sony seriously needs to study the reason why games are not selling so much on ps3s even with just 6 million behind 360s user base and free online service. MS must have done something good with 360.
Well y'know the 360 did have a price cut to $299.99 for the 20gbs.
Another prediction from the o' so reliable Michael Patcher /sarcasm
I bought one in that month but I still love my PS3 more. Sales numbers are getting old just go play games people.
Will he ever shut his mouth? He's like Criswell!
That was when the 360 had it's price drop on the Pro Model and that helped it to sell more than the PS3. Besides Sony had a shortage because they are making a newer PS3 Model. It comes out in August 80Gb PS3 for $400. Great deal.
i guess he trusts vg charts.
PS3's have been hard to find, as of late. Hopefully this is the last SKU switchover from SCE.
Na, there will be more lol
http://www.walmart.com/sear... Walmart, in stock online and in "all" stores. http://www.bestbuy.com/site... Best Buy. instock online and in all stores (accept the MGS4 bundle) http://www.circuitcity.com/... Circuit City, in stock online and in all stores, even has the MGS4 bundle. http://www.target.com/b/ref... Target, online and in all stores http://www.amazon.com/s/ref... Amazon, in stock there to http://www.gamestop.com/Bro... Gamestop, yup they have em to Funny, you say "shortage" when the truth says otherwise.
I'll wait for the official NPD but i find it strange that he would only make the xbox360 outsell the PS3 by 25,000? and the 360 had some type of price drop, that doesnt seem right to me and if it is around there then MS is doing something wrong if it cant outsell a 399/499 system out on the market.
You know, it really could be 360 isn't the system people are waiting for a price drop on.
360 is still lively and price cuts are prime factors for sales(if this prediction is true of cours) amazing even after ps3 still carrying a heavy premium price, ps3 is still casualy jogging along.
for god sake, is'nt it more important to shoot one self rather than be bothered about sale for PS3 V Xbox 360, As I for one DO NOT CARE. Ive been a playstation gamer for years have no interest in changing becuase i care more about the games on the system, is'nt that why we buy a certain console!!!!!!!!!!!
MGS4 sure didn't do to much for the PS3, Ninja Gaiden 2 seems to have had more of an impact on console sales than MGS4.
NG2 had more impact for 360 sales than MGS4? then explain this, 405,500 PS3 sold and 254,000 Xbox 360 sold in June... how the hell is that an big impact on 360 sales???
MGS4 is supposed to be a premier system seller but it hardly moved any systems at all. Ninja Gaiden 2 isn't considered a system seller but actualy moved 360's, and now the 360 takes the lead with two months of MGS4 out. Both games came out around the same time but the 360 is now in the lead in all 3, Japan (funny as hell) Europe and the US. So like I said MGS4 seems not to have had much of an impact with PS3 sales.
Whatever dude. You don't believe that a broken product like NG2 can do anything to the most advance product in stores: MGS4. Why are MGS4 80GB's sold out as soon as they hit stores? Stop being delusional.
Pachter's comments are what they are. Predictions. I wouldn't use this guy as a credible source.