It’s been nearly two and a half years since the Xbox One’s, quite frankly, disastrous reveal, but it's time to forgive and forget.
Who actually lied to themselves that Microsoft were a bunch of chumps who fold under competition? It is in their nature to compete. I can still remember the trumpets sounding off the defeat of Microsoft and the downfall of the Empire. lol
Nah Microsoft is too important to ever go anywhere as a company but Xbox? If the Xbox division didn't change their ways and stuck with DRM and the rest of that crap, Xbox might have discontinued.
Funny, you could say the same about Sony. Sony as a company is hemorrhaging money, the Playstation section of Sony is one of the only brands that is in the black. they are like mirror images of each other.
@troylazlow Thing is I think more people would be upset if Sony fell out of the gaming business than Microsoft. No offence to MS but gaming is like something extra for them which brings in the money while the others like Nintendo and Sony have been a part of the gaming industry way back when it was much smaller and wasn't bringing in the cash it does today.
@Foxtrot people were really upset over Sega leaving hardware ...and they got over it. Sony and Nintendo have a longer legacy but we would all get over it and be on to the next new and shiny that replaces the vacuum they would leave.
The thing with MS is they have almost always been the underdog and because of that they have consistently innovated. Even during the previous generation, Sony was selling boatloads of consoles in other regions because of the brand name. Basically, just blind loyalty was driving the PS3 sales. The disparity was so big last generation, but guess what at the end of the generation Sony/MS is more or less even, despite the 2:1 lead in two markets (US/UK) that combined has more than 50% market-share worldwide for consoles. -Foxtrot: I think you are right that more people would be upset if Sony disappeared, because of blind loyalty due to two generation of nostalgia just like Nintendo. Xbox has never had that type of fanbase and the closest to that is the Xbox 360. That said, I think it would be sad day if any of the current console manufacturers went out of business. That is just another nail in the console industry coffin. How many companies today can enter the console business? Heck, how many would want to? Yup, we would be moving towards tablet/smart phone gaming and PC. So be careful what you wish for!
I'm sorry foxtrot but Nintendo yes has been in the industry long before big money but Sony has not. The first PlayStation came out in 1995, and the first Xbox came out only 6 years later. One console Generation. Nintendo had 2 full generations before Sony and 3 full before Xbox. Big console money got started with the original Nintendo and Sega master system as they were known as hip and cool as they weren't video games (which had a market crash in the early 80s) but they were computer entertainment systems. And even still, MS was in gaming on PCs before PlayStation got started as well. Games like flight simulator were out all the way back to the early 80s.
@ Troy According to the Q2 2015 report Sony as a company earned money in all segments of the company, excluding restructuring. I'm not saying that they earned lots but saying that they are hemorrhaging money is a little inaccurate. Looks like the restructuring that they went through is finally starting to pay off.
Yeah, let's give Microsoft some slack. I mean, they only had the Red Ring of Death which plague 25+ Million Consoles, with Disc scratch fever that break games, overprice HDD with HD-DVD add-on of No movies available which forced user to pay Xbox Live for free services like Facebook and Youtube. Only to promote a overpriced gimmick and make wonderful games like Sesames Street and [Insert your poorly rated game here] which in combination of all games if kinect was a console it would have the worst average review score in console history. Only to be told at launch you were not good enough for backwards compatibility with greedy DRM policies restricting you from selling of borrowing your games to your friends, with a creepy kinect that watches your every move with an "off" option that may or may not work. Selling you overprice 150$ controller, 3 times more than the cost of a game. From which they gladly backed-down from the DRM policies only to replace them with Micro-Transaction in Every Xbox Exclusive Game there is. Let's face it, it wasn't good for a very long time. It's just starting to be good. Let's give it some time. But it's still Microsoft. Like all companies, they're there to make money.
If sony was out of the picture. Microsoft would of never reversed any of their original 2013 x1 policies. Gamestop would be closing doors right about now. Only my opinion guys.
the only people that feel they need to cut msft some slack, are the people who already did...
@ Dee_91 Those who still defend the good old June 2013 MS, to be more specific.
@donthate what have ms innovated?
cut some slack? cut some price. $199 Xbox One.
@Fox You have a semi point but MS is officially unifying its gaming and software platforms like WIN10, Xbox, Minecraft, DX12 API and soon to be Cloud gaming like CC3. Or thats MS new focus at least. People tend to act like MS is the only company in the past 20+ years to screw up. Nintendo, SEGA, Sony have all messed up in some fashion. I don't think anyone will cut them slack tbh. Doesn't affect me none just give me the games, features and updates and I'll stick around. The Writer says forgive and forget. Oh I'll forgive, but sure as hell not forgettin.
@UltimateMaster Yes, lets give them some slack. I mean Sony told you to get another job to afford the PS3 at launch and most of the games in the first 2 thirds of it's life cycle looked better on the 360. They told the world that the cell processor would be the next step in enterprise server deployments only for cell to end up as a wet fart, of use to nobody excelt superconpute. Yes XBL had a paywall and had RROD (Never had it myself) but XBL was much more stable than the free PSN and lets not forget the PS3 update that bricked your console or months of downtime. Id rather pay for something to be decent than get the market stall knock off that was PSN. I own both PS4 and X1 but rarely ever use my PS+. I'm not going to until they finally sort out their security after the massive hacks that screwed my security. The fact that they had to advertise for a security specialist after the hacking attacks around the failed release of that film the interview is very worrying. Then you go on about DRM which didn't happen but would have happened and you can bet your bottom dollar that if it had met with a good recenption that Sony would have followed suit. To think otherwise is blind loyalty. Then they offer an elite controller (Which I won't bother with because I'm not good of a gamer) but Sony also offer an over priced PS Now for old games. I tried it with UC3 despite a 200mb/s line via ethernet (No overheads to worry about)it was not very seemless. Handy yes but I stoppped an waited for the UC collection. Then we have VR, which I'm sure people will love but it won't do for my because of being deaf in one ear, it'll make me sick. Add to that that it won't be cheap. Yes you can call MS for everything but Sony isn't innocent here either. So either be balanced in your approach of expect long rebutles from people like me.
competetion is a healthy thing guys and to any of you saying either ms,sony or nintendo should go out of business just stop it do you just go base hat off the stuff sony has been in trouble so they must be going out of business without ever realizing that sony owns OVER 100 BILLION WORTH OF ASSETS it would take sony screwing up for next 3 decades and by screw up i mean losing billions yearly to even have a chance of going out of business ms would just sell the xbox brand if things ever got bad and still rack in billions yearly, to them xbox is just a side thing. i don't think ms depends of xbox to make money but that doesn't mean they don't care the best example i give of xbox/ms partnership is this: ted turner owned wcw but people under him always looked down on wrestling so they sold it right after the merger even thought for a period of 5-6 years it was making them a lot of money that's the way i look at ms, i think some people in ms look at xbox as not interested way i want all 3 to stay andd compete and yes i hope nintendo's next console is able to stack up against the big boys
Competition is good when competition is good,.. MS is no good. If anything I think they are a bad influence on everybody,.. Everyone starts with anti-consumer policies because of them. We are already getting nickle and dimed for everything everywhere,.. and it is going to get worse
Pyro I never said ms were consumer friendly. They are simply about business Also they don't like competition, they much rather buy out the competition than to actually compete I have confidence In Spencer but they still have someone like major Nelson running his mouth so much has the Xbox leadership really changed? In my opinion and this is just mine before sone fanboys gets mad Sony takes the most risks under Playstation, they invest into risky games and ideas and are the one gaming company that's gamer friendly
Well this article is on the wrong site to begin with. No matter what MS does right, or makes right, this site won't give them credit of any type. Why? Because people don't like MS or Xbox here period is proven, and that's the truth. If this site wasn't so Xbox hatred maybe people will look at some of the postives NOW instead of looking at the negatives BACK THEN. People revert back to MS big mistakes back then because they can't find something now to to bash and hate or simply to cry and complain about. Again that's the truth take it or leave disagreeing with me is to disagree with yourselves, I'm just a messenger.
@pyroxxx Your logic is the same logic backed by people that blame violence on video games or sexism on video games. MS is a company, they will do things that will make them more money in the long run. If people don't like it, then they can always vote with their wallets but I get sick of hearing this whole "MS ARE A BAD INFLUENCE!!! THEY'RE FORCING OTHER COMPANIES TO MAKE BAD DECISIONS!!!" bs... Companies are run by grown-ups who can make informed decisions on how to approach the market. If your favorite company is nickle and diming you then that's their decision and your problem for still buying into it. Any competition is still good competition because everyone still has the right to choose....Bad competition is when you're being forced to buy something you don't want and/or don't like. Unless MS has a monopoly, then their competition is just as good and fair as anyone else's.
AngelicIceDiamond let's see playstation is a much better well known brand than xbox there are more playstation consoles in this world than xbox ps4's install base is almost double the size of xbox one's so why are you surprised that gaming sites are pro playstation? i remember in 2008-2008 this site was pro xbox and every single day, YES I MEAN EVERY SINGLE DAY we got the ps3 doom articles you are acting like xbox one launch was 10 years ago, the memory is still fresh in a lot of minds and it will take a long time to repair the image
Let's all cut Microsoft some slack. Hold on let me think about that Let's see If it wasn't for Sony saying no to drm we all would stuck with a big fat drm right now Let's all cut ms some slack ...... err hell no
I have seen comments on here from Xbox defense force saying Sony actually held back Xbox one because those announced Xbox one features were the true next Gen features Ms can never ever pull that crap until Sony is in gaming business. You are 1 trillion % right if it wasn't for Sony we would be stuck with a den filled machine But ms screwed it self in eyes of most gamers and they better be real careful next time they are to announce the next Xbox No matter what you Xbox fanboys say there is no way in hell drm policies are gamers friend and true next Gen features Stop buying into hype
Yeah, I doubt most people will be willing to do that...
most people meaning those who didn't like microsoft and the xbox products before they announced xbox one? probably.
"LEAVE BRITANY ALONE" I apologize if this comment comes off like a troll, but it's just hilarious seeing what this industry has become the last 2 years. MS had an impactful start to gen 7, yet. Despite all the positives things 360 brought to home consoles, they became unfocused on building new core games 4 to 3 years before X1, their awkward obsession with motion control at E3 hurt them a lot too. People seem to forget to Microsoft has never been the lead platform, PS2 had gen 6 and Wii had gen 7. Also 360 lost the worldwide lead on PS3 despite launching first and being ahead for a few years. But certain people within the games industry are having a bitter time with the reality that microsoft started off struggling what their original Xbox, 360 had a very lackluster run towards the end of it's lifecycle with their competition putting out hot games left and right. And now they're back to where they started once again, now this gen isn't over yet, not even close. But do we really see it changing for them?
In the console exclusivity department the xbox one is doing so much better this time around.
? Not really, with them losing in sales right now compared to PS4, expect less 3rd party exclusives, by default XONE will have less of them due to its poor sales. Pretty sure Square doesn't want a repeat of what just happened with Tomb Raider. Also Sony had more exclusives last gen, they are gearing up to have just as much if not MORE this gen as Square is making many PS titles, Capcom even recently stated the same. http://blogjob.com/oneangry... Consider Square released more Playstation 3 titles last gen, consider Sega did too, consider NOW Capcom is saying this. Not sure how many publishers need to start making more PS titles to understand that by default XONE won't have more exclusives, it will have less. PS3 had more last gen, PS4 has even MORE then what PS3 did in the same amount of time... I don't know what "doing so much better" actually means as the statement is really vague. MS at the start of every gen has done ok with exclusives, yet slowly they would slow down releases and stick to their main combo of Halo, Gears, Forza etc.
That's because MS started focusing on xbox 1 while the xbox 360 was still in its prime and forgot about the xbox 360 core audience and completely stopped caring, except for kinect. Sony on the other hand supported the Ps3 100% until Nov 13 2013
Flippin eck, some people really think sales are exclusives or something. It's mad.
ScaReCrow90 i have to disagree. the original xbox had the most exclusives then for some reason they abandoned them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wi... microsoft did a great job with the original xbox and damn do i miss those days i just hope they can make a come back like that with the next xbox the xbox one is the black sheep of the xbox family and this is coming from an xbox fan, yeah its a fantastic console but with microsoft being the owners it should have been so much better... more powerful, more exclusives, better OS from day one, better focus on games from the start. everything the ps4 does like share play, gameplay recording cropping and uploading to social media youtube etc should all be on xbox one. being able to install the games while they install of the disc should be on xbox one. for a company like sony who are not familiar with operating systems etc have done a damn good job with the ps4 OS. it does things that even myself was like "this should be on the xbox OS due to it being a microsoft device" but heres hoping that this gen has taught them alot and they go back to their roots and blow us away with the new xbox - if there will be one.
Just to be clear. I know a lot of Sony fans have trouble reading anything good about ms and they just lose their minds but I said it's doing better this time around compared to the 360 which was the point of the comment I responded to. Never said it had more exclusives then the ps4. And for those of you pointing at tomb raider sales please link to the article of global sales for tomb raider. And also for the digital because we know by now that lots of sales come from there. And again with sales and sales. If it's about sales that would mean the PlayStation 3 sucked until the end where it sold more. But that's not the case so stop bringing up sales in order to help your argument that the ps4 is better. It's an immature argument.
Sadly, some don't want to see that.
the 360 was lead platform gen 7. it might not have sold as much as wii but it was the console devs developed on then ported to the ps3. now its ps4 to xbox one
Yes. But does that make the Xbox a worse console? Did it make the ps3 a bad console because of it? If anything it made it better because it forced it to pump out exclusives in order to survive.
Ahhh the good ole days of brick controllers and the first halo. Gears of war and red rings of death ahhh good times. Microsofts alright in my book. Sure they've stumbled through the years but I'll be damned if those boys don't just get right back up and keep on keeping on. In an industry once dominated by the Asian market American can do spirit carved itself a nice little spot despite the naysayers. Cheers to Microsofts innovative spirit. Let's not repeat past mistakes shall we.
Amen to that and long live healthy competition!
Can't forgive Microsoft for the crappy RROD. It's the reason I got a PS3 in the first place and missed Halo 4.
And now due to the internal power source, the PS4 has a higher overheating rate than the X1. Sorry you missed Halo 4, not the best in the line up but pretty good none the less
Not as bad as the 360 though. There hasn't been a widespread problem like last gen where the red ring of death was a very well known term through the gaming industry.
oh god no not as bad by far the RROD as we all know will go down in history as being a horrible debacle. To Their credit MS didn't bat an eye in spending 3 billion in replacements and shipping packages.
The PS4 doesn´t have an issue with overheating. :I
What over heating problem? There hasn't been one lol.
the PS4 has a higher overheating rate < -- That's the new thing they came up with?
What higher overheating rate? And didn't bat an eye? Microsoft utterly DENIED that a problem even existed until they were about to be sued. And it took them a year-plus to do that. Can we stop revising history? PLEASE?
Really I forgave Sony for the Crappy PS3. The one that kept overheating and the heat sink paste kept coming off the GPU. Hmmm which Sony knew about and wanted to charge me a $150 bucks to get fix. Even under waranty... Some of you are nut jobs. If gaming is hobby it doesn't matter what company it' is. I still went out and bought another PS3. I'm not going to even bring up that Microsoft fixed everybody RROD for free.
Don't be disingenuous. All last gen consoles had technical problems but that Xbox 360 had far more technical issues (RROD) than both PS3 & Wii U combined.
On N4g? .....not on yer life! lol And it doesnt matter how good the games or features are because...you know...'Teh sells' May aswell close the thread now.
Exactly, the old saying of "haters gonna hate". Amazing that some comments here are talking as if the Xbox 1 is doing so horrible that third party devs will never make a game let alone an exclusive ever for the system. Whateves, X1 users are enjoying it, fanboys are complaining about it, the world keeps turning.
I never understood the logic of those who complain about a website yet continues to frequent the website, battered wife syndrome?
"Teh sales" as you put it are the sales for a reason. The general population of gamers want the ps4.
I'm curious luger if you hate this site so much why do you comment on it?
It's very clear that the Microsoft of right now is not the same beast we were dealing with in 2013. It's amazing what happens when someone who was even too garbage for Zynga is kicked from making big decisions.
Decisions he made , made the xbox 360 a leader last gen
Leader? Sounds like revisionist history. The Wii was the 7th gen console leader.
@persistantthug wii was 1st in hardware sales, but I'd be interested to see who wins on hardware + software sales? Legit question as I don't know but from what I saw most wiis were used for wii sports then were dust catchers after.
360 actually came in at 3rd place for your interest.
Another day, another "media" outlet defending MS... These must to be paid ads/publicity or promotions, I have no doubt now, they just keep coming... I still have a hard time trying to understand why so many "media websites" have the NEED to damage control and apologise for MS. Why is that? People have moved on, the ones that like Xbox will buy Xbox, simples as that. BTW after articles such as these, just don't try and come out all imparcial... Doesn't work that way.
Same reason media outlets damage controlled for Sony and the PS3 last gen.
No one discredits the attempt to put more games on the system.that should have been their *modus operandi* I used to buy every game system out there growing up.I wanted to experience every type of game from anywhere it showed up.nintendo,sega,capcom,konami ,namco were my heavy hitters.i didnt have to question the fun factor.but then i grew up.now its about principle. By principle alone,there are certain aspects of the industry I do not support.for the greater good of it and my continued fun and enjoyment. I bought and still have an og xbox.but Microsoft introduced paying to play online.that was a turn off.they then abandoned the Xbox and if you wanted new games,you had to get a 360.360s broke left and right. I was a game manager when it launched and I saw it happen.blaming gamers for it breaking was disgusting until lawsuits were coming. Microsoft also started micro transactions. They overcharged for Wifi,HDDs,sold a DVD add-on to not make it standard, but to slow bluray adoption.because of not waiting and going with a bigger disc,companies couldn't fit the content and sold it separately as dlc.we know full well gta4 and its addons could fit on one bluray disc. They then stop making games for 360 and moved those games over to launch games for Xbox one.they jacked up the price of online from $50 to $60.they sold and overpriced camera then forced it on the sequel.they told gamers if you don't like it get a 360.they wanted to control used games like EA and monetize it like EA does with access.they wanted to check on you every 24 hours.they want to introduce always online games just like EA does with star wars and N4S. They are not the type of company policies and actions deserving of support. Their underlining agenda hasn't changed which is why they introduced win10 on Xbox.I'm not saying you can't have fun with their games.but when a company dangles a carrot in my face but has their hand in my wallet,I can't support them.
The X1 is still outpacing the Xbox 360, which is something onto itself, it just so happens that the PS4 is selling like the cure for the common cold. Congrats to Sony for making a historically amazing selling machine. but don't think the Xbox One is doing poorly, just not as good.
Tracking lower than PS3, which was apparently not a success at first ;-)
I tell you what Microsoft add Virtual Reality to your console or acquire Oculus Rift rights to the Xbox and I'm aboard. Make exclusives for Oculus Rift then add a separate box to enable support of the Rift. Then boom I'll want a Xbox One.
I have.. Even though i dont have xb1, i greatly appreciate what theyve done in such little time.. I plan to gget it eventually but im waiting to see what else they release and what PSVR has to offer.... Good job though
Nothing for me to forgive. Of the 3 this gen consoles (X1, PS4, Wiiu), I own, the X1 is easily my console of choice. If gamers are going to continue to knock MS for what they did not do, or changed, then that is on them, I plan to continue enjoying the hell out of my Xbox. What the next gamer does, really is of no concern to me. MS has corrected the ship and has been working the hardest since launch than the other two console makers to correct the disastrous launch & as far as my tastes go they have succeeded. At the end of the day we are talking videogames, and in the grand scheme, although I enjoy them, not the most important thing going on in my life. If some gamers can't let 2013 go, well, that is on them. Life is too short for that nonsense.
How did you got 10 freaking bubbles by doing nothing !?