Developers See PS3 & 360 As Equals

Torrence Davis of The Bitbag writes, "As I was making my rounds at E3, I got a chance to talk to many developers. I tried my hardest to get developers to admit that the PS3 was a more powerful platform than the 360. I made sure not to talk to any developers working on exclusive titles, so all of the conversations I had were with developers working on multiplatform games."

[kapedkrusader]

..They are developing multi-platform games.

"Yes,the PS3 version can make better games, so we tone it down to make both PS3/360 look the same."----Lose all PS3 consumers.

"Yes, our PS3 version will be a hell of a lot better."----Lose 360 consumers.

The only right answer is,"They are both the same." All you have to do is compare the upcoming first party games and then you'll notice if the PS3 is more powerful.

[Boink]

I'm having some trouble figuring out which system you're a fanboy of?

[silverchode]

not everyone is a fanboy.

[BlackTar]

Boink your the fanboy. He isn't a fanboy by Stating something like that. What system do you like better " your reply" well then your a fanboy of that system. You see how stupid that is. The youngin are screwing everything up in gaming. His opinion be it favorable to any one unit is not being a fanboy it is being intelligent enough to formulate a opinion fanboys are drastic differences ad close minded fools which unfort. by you r comment i think you are. I cant believe how stupid people get on a yearly basis its ridiculous. video games are walking away from intellegent and running into ignorent now a days. Please use your brain

[Sk8boyP]

O_O *Head explodes*

[BlackTar]

Didnt mean to disagree with you. I agree with you these people now adays are like breaking up with answering machine it can only go one way for them.

[incogneato]

I agree, no developer is going to trash either system when they are pretty much planning to make their multi-platform games equal to each other.

[Saint Sony]

They don't tone down any multiplatform because of 360, most multiplatforms run better in 360 anyhow.

Yep comments like this hurts uh?

[NegativeCreep427]

Need proof? Check back on all those new Heavy Rain screenshots that were posted two days ago. Looking at those shots, no one who isn't a total 360 fanboy can say it is technologically-feasible on the Xbox 360.

[PimpDaddy]

The PS3 is more powerful or has better first party developers? There is a difference.

I own both the PS3 and 360. Like I have said before I haven't seen a game yet on either HD console that couldn't be done on the other console.

So yes I do tend to believe the multiplatform developers such as ID that say that the PS3 and 360 are equal in real game performance.

Saying the PS3 is more powerful than the 360 because you own the PS3 and not the 360 reeks of fanboyism.

Saying that certain PS3 games look better than certain 360 games is more mature and acceptable.

See the difference?

[kinggeoff]

you left out the "game looks better on 360" option

funny how that is

[Sitdown]

the article did not give any names of the developers.......they could have given their honest opinion and been anonymous with it.

[Real Gambler]

Wow, every now and then, one dev will talk for an hour, and for 5 second, will say something good or bad about a console, and sure enough, the next day, forget the whole hour speech, the only thing showing up on the web in bold letter is: Dev X said that console Y was better than Z because it's purple (or insert other stupid reason here).

So this guy think he will walk to any dev, seriously ask him which console is the best, and get a real answer? Was he drunk? My bet is: he didn't even left the bar! I really, really pity whoever paid for his airplane ticket for sure. What a waste of money!

[uie4rhig]

you are right and i agreed with that post... any game can be done on any console, its called compressing and adjusting the game, hell you can do MGS4 on an n64 but will you get the same graphics? will you get the same game play?
same goes for ANY game, including uncharted, gears, halo, w/e, w/e and even more w/e's ...

its not a question of does it run that game, its a question of what the difference will be..

[BlackTar]

Nice I stick up for someone be it xbox or PS and I get disagrees. I called out someone who was trying to start fights and I lose bubbles that is retarded. Do yo uguys even know what side im on much less yourselves. I dont post much so it doesnt really effect me it just pissed me off that someone was so quick to accuse someone of being a fanboy with there fanboy phaser cannon and i get the disagrees. hell the guy could be a nice guy but when you post nonsense like he did was only to start a war and I lose bubbles it really hurts me to say this but you guys hurt my feelings : )

J/k do whatever you like I was just trying to make a sensible reply to help explain whats wrong with games today.

Did yo uguys even like my ref. LOL

[Enigma_2099]

*Looks out in the distance at the flowers blooming in the fields...*

[ajeben809]

if u dont mind getting disagrees and losing bubbles then y are u crying ya nob build a bridge and get over it. lol sick of ppl trying to be the nice guy on here saying oh i dont mind losing bubbles but saying that is crossing the line blah blah bla... no1 cares

[mfwahwah]

PS3 is probably more powerful. That's why they're using CELL processors in the world's fastest super computer: Roadrunner.

It's being used to "perform climate and nuclear weapon simulations." My source is the latest PtOM, and I've heard it before too.

Then again, they may only be using CELL because it can calculate events in realtime, not because of power. Either way it's impressive :]

[toughNAME]

but Jesus is a Halo fan

[The Wood]

but Chuck Norris loves SOCOM

[toughNAME]

Barack Obama preordered Too Human

[SCThor]

and McCain plays COD4 on dayly basis, I even Air Strike him a couple of times on Warehouse.

[incogneato]

OMG put Jesus in any sentence and it automatically becomes funny! Being a teenager desperate to seem edgy must sure be fun.

[vdesai]

gods son would never support satans spawn. (A corporation is known as one entity, person).

[iamtehpwn]

Even Old Snake said McCain is too old. =P

[Surfman]

Bill Gates plays with MGS4 in his castle.

[orakga]

The Holy Mary just bought a Wii.
Just another old lady buying into the Wii-fad.

(OOOPS I DIDNT MEAN TO BRING ON ZE NINTENDO WRATH!!!)

[Whoooop]

Peter Moore just tattooed LBP on his left butt cheek...

[InMyOpinion]

Chuck Norris can't play online multiplayer games cause the servers instantly die everytime he tries to connect...

[The Wood]

Kicks major ass with King in Tekken

jenzo...true.... pads melt on contact

whoooop... right next to his please come to me solid snake tatt

[uie4rhig]

god played gears of war yesterday...

[PimpHandStrong]

plays what ever Chuck Norris tell him to

[Surfman]

Dr. Doogie can't wait to get into Home Beta, while he waits he play with Uncharted.

[DevastationEve]

he plays civilization

[EnglishPatriot]

"God doesn't play gears he plays civilization"

LMAO

[SuKiT]

I wish that both consoles were made out of spare-ribs :)

[Overr8ed]

hmm.. must be good ribs. =)

[Serg]

The 360 would even fry them for you and 3 red lights indicate they are done!

Sorry, couldn't resist :>.

[Sir_Ken_Kutaragi]

Developers Are BLIND!!! :-/
(Well the SONY Haters are, the Lazy W*nker ones!!!)

Let...
me...
Guess???...
Valve???
Epic???
EA???
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[Viktor E]

That posted this: http://www.thebitbag.com/20...

I will require both visual and audio proof of such interviews being conducted with such questions being asked.

Until then,the Compression issues and Outdated hardware found exclusively on the Xbox 360 will forever set it apart from the superior and revolutionary Playstation 3 Computer Entertainment System

[Xbox is the BEST]

you fell for the Sony hype again. HA HA HA HA HA HA

[theKiller]

well thats some Developers that needs some classes to see between the these to animals! one eats the other(ps3) and the other eats plants(360)

[tordavis]

Get a life, I already admitted I was wrong about that. Sorry if Ken Levine had to lie to the public to keep it secret and that's all I was doing was regurgitating what Ken Levine said.

[mikeslemonade]

If you talk to developers that develop multiplatform exclusively normally they're not as skilled. All the savy developers will tell you PS3 is better. And I bet you John Carmack's development team is more skilled than any of the developers you talked to. John Carmack came out and said 360 version will look worst.

[ZyKlOn]

developers talk up PS3's power

[khellendros1]

The objective for developer that work on both systems is to get them to look the same. They are only going to do what's necessary to get it to work. So I don't know if I believe them.

[Surfman]

Equals for now, because they need to develop on both at the same time. They have to limit themself because of the 360. And most of the devs are not used to work on with PS3s, so i guess in another 1 or 2 years, they'll change their mind when they see that the PS3 beat 360 with only 1 hand.

[tordavis]

"They have to limit themself because of the 360."

Who told you this? Why do you think this?

[Bangladesh]

Sony PR&Marketing told him this. And he believes someone trying to sell him something over numerous complaints multi-plat developers have went public with. Why? Because he paid out the a** for a ps3 and his brain will not let him fathom the fact that the ps3 isn't better than the 360. I wish that I were a multi-billionaire, I would send some of the sony fanboys of the world a free 360 and 10 games, just so they would realize how retarded that they have been acting.

[kingme71]

PC's are suffereing a similar fate to sameitis. PC's get more horsepower and better graphics every second Tuesday, but fewer and fewer PC only games are coming out, so PCS360 games will all look the same. What developer is going to spend extra months making 3 versions all look different?

Just be thankful they aren't dumbing everything down to the Wii standards: PCS3Wii60

[dachiefsman]

"OH BOB SAGET!"

[theusedfake]

tourette's guy is awesome

Don't talk Sh!t about total!

[LoVeRSaMa]

GamerZone has some pretty funny comments at the moment, be sure to check afew of them out.

(its a shame I am banned from there =D )

If there "Equal" then that leaves PS3 with BluRay Cell and free online?

[Bangladesh]

From what I see it leaves the ps3 with extended dev cycles, second rate online service, and most importantly a huge lack of quality games compared to the 360.

PS3
http://www.metacritic.com/g...
360
http://www.metacritic.com/g...

[celticlonewolf]

This thread wont have as many comments as threads that claim one has a advantage over the other lol sorry fanboys new feul here for you war. Many devs have stated this though that both have advantages and dis advantages but people(fanboys) love to go over the same things time and again. Lol even the guy at id stated the advantages and dis advantages of both yet we all know what quote we here over and over again. Anyway I have to say what the guy wrote at the end of the article is true its great to be a gamer right now and in the next few years to.

[jojo319]

I always love when people bash these companies. I especially love the Microsoft "monopoly" argument. Monopolies are apparently OK if it's the console you happen to own. As a 360 owner I'm THRILLED to have MS throw their money around so I don't have to. It will also ensure I get my PS3 at a lower cost.

[GarandShooter]

'As a 360 owner I'm THRILLED to have MS throw their money around so I don't have to.'

Any money that any corporation throws around comes from one place: The Consumer! So, in essence it is (or at least was) your money.

[jojo319]

you know, maybe it just might be TRUE. Does everybody have to have a fu*king agenda? Heaven forbid.

[RAM MAGNUMS]

he ran around e3 talking to 3rd party devs. I would have respected this guy if he would have talked to ps3
exclusives devs. Most devs tried to ignore Torrance Davis but he was persistent on getting the answers he
wanted. But... But... But, but, but they are equal right?!
ok they are equal now get out of my face.
how is DVD equal to bluray?
how is rrod equal to stabability?
how is digital distribution & owning it & taking it portable equal to
netflix & minimum sized retro arcade games equal?
how is halo & gears equal to mgs4, resistance2, uncharted & littlebigplanet?

Its not.
torrence Davis fails again. Nice try, but nobody was convinced.
phuckN loser nerd who can't fathom learning something new in his young age.
get a mac computer too A$$hole.

this dumba$$ brought fanboyism to e3? What a retard! How about you use your
2 eyes.
Td: they are equal though right?
3rd party dev: if you say so? Whatever.
td: ps3 games can be compared equally to gears right?
3 party dev: did you see the ps3 games? Oh, never mind.
yes. (noob).
td: what?
3rd party dev: nothing.

[tordavis]

funny.

[Zizo_ha]

I tried to figure out that with my friend we checked their tech spec and we found they are almost equal with slight differences but what made each system better than other is the storage and the processor which what made the PS3 a stronger console ((bluray+ cell)) i mean what more the developers could ask for with media supports up to 50 gb dual layer BD ((500 gb according to pioneer)) and a powerful processor ((cell)) and thats what makes the PS3 a stronger console rather than that its the same as 360 .

[bunbun777]

I always hear of checking out MGS4 and Uncharted images to see the power of the PS3 (wait for it) but I honestly can not recall anyone here ever telling me to check out 360 images for the bomb diggity? What should I be looking for? Thanks!

[silverchode]

i think gears of war is the only game that has good graphics.

[Partisan]

Have any of you Play Uncharted for PS3? just wondering....

[Mr Fancy Pants]

not exactly equals... it all depends of who you ask.
the devs of rage are pointing a clear advantage that the ps3 has over the x360 and that's the blu-ray drive.

if you ask about the ps3 to insomniac they gonna say that the cell it's more powerful then the cpu of the x360; if you ask to EA they gonna say that the ps3 it's more powerful; if you ask valve they gonna say that the ps3 it's just a piece of crap that should desappear.

but me as a gamer i see more potential on the ps3 than on the x360 because of the blu-ray and i believe we haven't seen the full potential of the cell. but the x360 has the more advance online...

-- why i prefer the ps3? well because i can play my huge collection of games from the PS1 and ps2, plus it comes with a blu-ray player and it used for the games too. the online in my eyes it's not that bad, it let me play games online for free and sometimes on dedicated server, that means less lag... on top of that sony has a lot of studios and it is improving more and more the online aspect without charging me nothing.

]]- now, do you think this comment makes me a fanboy? i mean if you prefer a platform that makes you a fanboy? i don't have the money to buy every system so i buy the one i think it's the best for me and anyway i don't want every system because i'm not going to have the time to play every single game of every platform.

edited: but i understand all of those x360 owners that don't want a ps3. i waited to buy a ps3 but if i had got a 360 earlier then i wouldn't had buy a ps3.

[PirateThom]

Bubbles, but only because that's my view as well.

[tordavis]

Bubbles, you're not a fanboy.

[The Wood]

but i like modesty

bubble

[The Lazy One]

is more a royalty problem than a real hardware problem. Id has no problem putting it on 50 DVDs if they have to, they just have a problem having to pay extra for each DVD included with the game.

[ApocalypseShadow]

know there is a difference in quality when it comes to games.multiplatform devs can defend their practice of making games for both as to not make the hardware maker upset.but ps3 owners know that it is the exclusives that are judged.

and judging by the exclusives being put out by microsoft and sony,we know who has better games and better graphics.it's not to say better games can't be made on 360.we just haven't SEEN it.

from motorstorm,GT5,heavenly sword,uncharted,metal gear,etc,there are no equals when it comes to lighting,onscreen objects,textures,HD sound,etc.

no game on 360 matches motorstorm.sega rally doesn't,the new baja doesn't,dirt doesn't,the new pure game won't.it just can't be matched.
GT5 has no equal.the cars look better than forza 2,it has better lighting,it has more cars on the road,there's just ....MORE.

but time and time again,we can clearly see games on ps3 like killzone that just aren't matched by 360.killzone has more objects,better lighting,smoke trails,explosions,characters,e tc.,than anything on 360.including gears of war.it may be fun,but gears is clearly being outclassed by killzone.

multiplatform devs can say whatever they want.but fans of exclusives can see a difference.

apocalypse.......

[Xbox is the BEST]

game that you list if it was on the 360 they would run better. Let's not fool yourself.

[PirateThom]

Then why is there no game on the 360 that matches them?

[tordavis]

"from motorstorm,GT5,heavenly sword,uncharted,metal gear,etc,there are no equals when it comes to lighting,onscreen objects,textures,HD sound,etc.

no game on 360 matches motorstorm.sega rally doesn't,the new baja doesn't,dirt doesn't,the new pure game won't.it just can't be matched.
GT5 has no equal.the cars look better than forza 2,it has better lighting,it has more cars on the road,there's just ....MORE. "

I appreciate your OPINION!

[ReBurn]

Motorstorm loses cred for me because of the insane load times. It even has long load times when switching vehicles. I wouldn't put that game up on any pedestals as the pinnacle of PS3 gaming. It's good, but it is hardly a wonder. At least that's my opinion.

[HelghastGeneral]

I been waiting for realism ever since they announced the next gen consoles and when 360 came out it did not offer what i was looking for. I then turned to ps3 which showed a clear example of what next gen games are going to look like. You can clearly see in the games how much more detail and animation there is just look at motorstorm and pacific rift it looks amazing. Look at gran turismo 5 how amazing that looks also the animation in heavenly sword and how realistic uncharted drakes fortune the animation is. Playstation 3 is the only system that can deliver realistic animation this generation 360 can only make games look next gen but they move just like last gen.

[thxkbye]

you sir, are a fanboi.

[SonySoldierEternaL]

i'm sick of this war between Sony and Microsoft

[divideby0]

up to now the biggest thang 360 had were its development tools (and thats important so developers have it easier to code and push games out faster).

Now games are getting bigger..

360 developers are forced to use crappy compression techniques (just to keep games on one disk), which ultimately yield inferior audio fidelity and graphics (ask any developer)and they dont wanna incur the additional expense of multidisk games for the 360 (MS pulling the old Big N cartride royality trick)

MS has already conceded on its hardware (bigger drives which soon will be mandatory) and Live Titles (bigger file size)and will drop the extra cost for games with multiple disks

no knocking the 360 since I like a lot of the games, just its lifetime will be cut short

[power of Green]

The hardware in these consoles is not the same. Equals? lol, just the current skill level of devs, time and resources produce simular results.

John Carmack and others have said what the differences are(not talking about disc format).

[titntin]

Regardless of which platform has and edge, and indeed, if there IS one, asking a multi plat developer such a question is sure to elicit this response. We all know how quickly the internet gobbles up any slight news of this ilk, so saying anything other than 'theres no difference' is a sure way of losing some kudos with one 'side' or another.

There are a few devs who don't care, for sure, but most of them play safe politics and would keep any real thoughts to themselves.

[psgamer]

HEAVY RAIN!!!

[hynesa02]

ps3 is not necacerily the better system, its the more powerful system

xbox has live...and live owns fudging ass xbox also has micro$oft with endless amounts of cash willing to get exclusives

all in all they have things going for both

[Covenant]

Aren't they?

(If you're going to disagree, say why).

[mistertwoturbo]

Tordavis, I don't think going around and asking multiplatform companies if one system is more powerful or not is really going to answer anything.

For one their goal is to try and make multiplatform games equal. A good example is like Burnout Paradise. They lead on the PS3, went on about how the PS3 is great this and that. But I'm sure their goal was to not overdo it and make the 360 version just as good.

We won't really see a developer who develops for both PS3 and 360 outright say "We will make this version completely superior to this version." Why? Because they will alienate either Sony or MS, or the consumers who buy either versions. The only thing we've seen so far is "exclusive DLC" which is more of a struck deal and not a technical advantage.

Granted there are some developers who aren't afraid to speak outright what they think. Like Carmack, who already says they are limited by the DVD9, so they have to compress some things. And even goes on to say that the PS3 has theoretically more peek power. But of course he prefers working with the 360 because of the dev tools, and support from MS. Thus making developement easier.

I don't trust a fanboy when he says "Omg tH3 PS3 iS th3 MoSt PoWeRfUl!"

But I will trust Carmack. So far in this whole "console war" he's the only multiplatform developer that is telling us like it is. But it's nothing that we all haven't known before, he just confirms it for us.

And lastly, I don't think we'll see multiplatform games ever being vastly different for a very long time. The only games we'll see push the hardware, are going to be 1st party exclusives and some 3rd party exclusives.

But of course, this is just my opinion. I hope developers everywhere, whether multiplatform or 1st party, continue to push the 360 and PS3 together. Because if they do that, the real winners are the gamers.

[Covenant]

That was one of the BEST posts I've ever read on N4G. Agree + bubbles. Very good post.

[mistertwoturbo]

Thank you convenant

[cooperdnizzle]

I own all three next gen platforms and i would have to say the ps3 is the best and most powerful No game looks as good as mgs4 and uncharted! I will say that my fav online game is GOW xbox 360 of course but yeah ps3 game's do look better and are more powerful! Also look at killzone 2 no game looks that good on the 360! Name one game

[tordavis]

Project Origin

[PoorDroids]

hahhahahAHAhahA I BET U DID!

[guerojose]

Sorry, but all of these fluff pieces sound to me like increasing desperation from the 360 camp. It says an awful lot when someone's no longer boasting "We're the best!", but rather "We're just as good as they are...no really!"

[DFresh]

For now they do but the exclusives speak for themselves and the PS3 is making giant jumps compared to the 360.
360 so far has only been making leaps in graphics and Sony is making jumps.
Multiplatform games can't really be judged because developers want all gamers to get the same experience w/ their console.
The people that you need to talk to is a person like John Carmack, Ted Price, etc.
Both consoles are great but to really judge a console you need to look at the exclusives being mad for only one console that's how you can tell you the difference.

[Bangladesh]

You are a brainwashed moron.
You can't make me believe that this-
http://www.gametrailers.com...

Looks any better than this-
http://www.gametrailers.com...

Blind idiot with an agenda= you

[silverchode]

are you serious.

[PoorDroids]

SC does look better. that's sad.

[pixelsword]

Both games look great, but MGS4 looks much better. I guess haven't seen both of them outside of clips.

[dro]

ur joke did not fit in with the rest (-_-)

[Bangladesh]

Hardware wise the 360 and PS3 are the same year model. The Ps3 was originally scheduled to release spring 2006, but was delayed because of blu-ray diode shortages and poor chip yields of the Cell processor.

[HelghastGeneral]

I am a fanboy because why? because I support a more powerful system? and i dislike 360? I liked the xbox when it came out and i thought it had a lot of potential I enjoyed kotor 1 and 2, fable, doom 3 and halo 2. Then 360 came out with perfect dark and call of duty 2 and I went from playing doom 3 to perfect dark and call of duty 2 and it was not really a step up of graphics and animation at all. I look forward to animation in video games I think its very important and ps3 is the first system to show me realistic animation. Perhaps you do not care about realistic animation then i can understand your view but animation is part of graphics. The reason why new consoles come out is because of better graphics and yeah 360 does deliver next gen graphics but only half of what it was suppose to do.

Playstation 3 has only been out for 1 year and 9 months and slowly more exclusives showing the systems true potential are coming out. With each exclusive the gap becomes even bigger between 360 and ps3 For example take a look at the 5 minute footage of infamous on G4. Games like that is what shows the diffrence and what every game should of looked like peoples jaws will drop and there is silence.

[Spydiggity]

fanboys only see what they wanna see.

i have both systems, nothing on my ps3 blows my mind. not that anything on 360 blows my mind either. the only game with graphics that are that good is Crysis.

but your claim that the animations are better? well in metal gear solid 4 when you shoot a guy, it's like they get stuck...like a broken record, til you kill them. you notice this best when using an automatic weapon against those female soldiers. not that i'm slamming MGS4, it looks good, but it's nothing amazing. and what other game on ps3 even has great graphics? The only other game i've even enjoyed playing was Ratchet and Clank and that basically looks like any other this gen platformer.

this is what bothers me about fanboys, they make blind claims but don't support it with facts or even examples. you just said the games have better animations...

in uncharted, there are about 4 enemy character models, and they all have the same animations. after 5 minutes of shooting at enemies in that game, it was obvious that i had already seen everything there is to see in that game...i played through it anyway, but wished i didn't spend the money on that joke. and while i somewhat enjoyed borrowing and playing resistance, all the enemies and their animations looked the same too.

so i have NO idea what point you were trying to make, but because you didn't support it, and because i have played most of the ps3 exclusives or own them, i have to say you're really just a fanboy who only sees what he wants to see. I don't see the point in even being a fanboy anymore. especially a sony one. they promised you the world for 600 dollars, and then they let all their exclusives slip, home has been delayed for over a year. you guys do realize sony isn't some trustworthy 70 year old grandmother who gives you a piece of candy. it's a huge corporation and they are only still this popular because of the support for PS2. I'm not saying microsoft is any better. i'm saying they are the same. they both want your money and that's it. the difference is that Microsoft at least takes some of that money we give them, and they reinvest it in buying exclusives. it's a good business move, but it also at least gives something to the supporters.

[GUNS N SWORDS]

is that a lot of multiplatform games on both 360/ps3 end up being the same or a tad better on 360, whatever the reasons why are not to be taken as an issue, it's mostly cause of the developers.

now

dose it mean that either console is weak, NO, (though it is nice to see how both consoles navigate through graphical obstacles) you can be firm on saying that GEARS2/KILLZONE 2 crushes all of the multiplatform games i've seen so far.

[katana523]

the developers say they are equals because they are working on a game for both systems. so techniqually the game should be the same on both systems thus they are equals. imagine this. microsoft lets you to write a story on 9 pages of paper while sony lets you use 50 pages of paper. now you have to write the same story on each set of pages so the microsoft story has 9 pages and the sony story has 9 pages that sounds pretty equal to me. this question can only be targeted at people who have developed exclusively on both the ps3 and 360 and on a multiplatform. developers that only produce exclusively will be biased and multiplatform developers write the same thing for both so for them they are the same...but no one knows of a company who has developed exclusively for both the ps3 and 360 and also on multiplatform so why are these articles published?

[pixelsword]

...They devs are always talking about multiplats, so what they were basically saying was that the PS3 and 360 can have equal multiplat released games now... but if you're talking about making a maxed-out game on one versus the other console and tricking it's graphics like a pimped-out ride, I think that the answer would've been different.

[Jeppe]

First source of input: "My first question.." (The only one?)
Next source of input: "I overheard some reporters.."

This article should get attention for being a real poor source of information, not it's title.

[killcycle]

These arguements are becoming as bad as football.

[Citizen Cook]

You can't make platforms developer friendly. You will alwasy be behind M$...

[REPLOID24]

the same stuff we've been hearing for a long time.

[kevnb]

developers don't want to appear to have favorites.

[Spydiggity]

wanted the developers to say the ps3 is better, and when they didn't he still concluded that it is?

i wonder if this guy is a fanboy?

[lewis]

wins.

[jerethdagryphon]

excellent analogy

as long as data space is the same it shouldnt matter both consoles are good
ill get a 360 when i have some cash for ace combat
but will keep my ps3 for other bits and bobs

[dcbronco]

But nobody but Sony is going to spend the time and money to make that evident on exclusive titles. Killzone has been in development for almost four years. By the time it releases, the next generation will be a year or two out. Companies will not put that kind of money and effort in on something that could possibly fail. Having a system that is easier to develop for makes more sense. It's cheaper and it's better to be able to make several games over the course of 5 years, than one.

[karlostomy]

2005 Sony: The next gen doesn't begin until we say so!
2005 Developers: ps3 and 360 about equal

2006 Sony: Xbox360 is merely xbox 1.5 (crazy Ken)
2006 Developers: ps3 and 360 about equal

2007 Sony: PS3 has teh untapped cell potentialz
2007 Developers: ps3 and 360 about equal

2008 Sony: 2008 the year of ps3... um... I mean 2009... or was it 2012?
2008 Developers: ps3 and 360 about equal

What does the SDF do?

"Waaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhh wahaaaaaa! Where's my mommy? Sony LIED! We can't take it! wahahahaaaaaaa!"

[karlostomy]

360 and PS3 get roundhouse-kicked equally as well !