During his GDC demonstration in 2005, Peter Molyneux of Lionhead Studios demoed his brainchild: The Room. An experiment dabbling in Hyper realistic surroundings, portals, and incredible definition. Where objects age and books have individual pages.
Very cool! But why is this PS3 news? Lionhead and Peter Molyneux are Microsoft developers
Its an experiment, so other devs can learn from it. Therefore it appliese to all gaming.
...then it DOES NOT involve the PS3, AT ALL. Got it?
This is PC/360 news ONLY.
Whoah there, killer. Tone it down a notch or five. Nothing to start a body count over.
...I'm just stating the facts, nothing more. Peter M. works for MS now, plain and simple. This demo (even though it's over a year old) is of something he's working on, for PC, and likely 360 as well. It has nothing to do with Sony, or the PS3. Why is that such a hard thing to understand?
*Note: Please read in a kind tone. It isn't meant to be a rant.
Actually, he stated that 'The Room' is a concept that he wants all video game developers to embrace and use in their future projects, so technically it has everything to do with every video game that will come to be produced on any existing or non-existing-but-in-developmen t-from-now-until-eternity platform. This article doesn't need to be declared one side or another by anyone because everyone benefits from his ideas and they should because he and his team have great ones. Just because he develops for Microsoft Games doesn't mean that the rest of the gaming world has to be shut off from technology and innovation that he provides. That would be selfish and short-sighted for anyone from any brand camp in this industry.
From this article, I had this reaction, "Whoa! Awesome! I love this guy and his company and want to play B&W2 right now, even though I am at work!" and you probably got something like that, too, but along with that you added, "WTF!!! This is an outrage that anyone would think the PS3 has anything to do with this!" Granted I am being a little dramatic, but when you add key words in capital letters and say "Got it?" as a closing statement you seem very snotty and rude, unless you are in the mob then you just sound like a badarse. I don't mean to be cruel when I say this stuff because my tone is kind (although my writing may not portray that) and I have nothing against you, but that is just what I got out of your first statement. I apologize if I took it the wrong way but it's text, and it is hard to determine the context someone is speaking in.
Regardless of what he develops for this is important for every single member of the gaming industry because it is something that is needed and should become a standard for all games in my opinion at least. If former questionmark's idea in his post on #5 is correct and Fable 2 uses this technology I will be looking forward to Fable 2 that much more (loved the original). I really want to see how this pans out for their games and the industry and I hope that any good ideas and innovations from anyone in the industry are accepted throughout and utilized so everyone can continue to grow and advance.
So again, I think we fully understand that he doesn't develop games for the Playstation 3, but his ideas branch farther than just the PC and XBox360, and since this article is about his ideas and him stating that it should be a norm throughout the video game industry, every single platform should be included. This guy makes gaming better for everyone, not just one area of the entire picture.
Has nothing to do with PS3.
I'm sure there's Jap Devs working for Sony that wants all dev's to embrace Blu-ray.
You can bet your ass there weren't any Sony 1st part devs in the room during his presentation....unless they were spies. ;)
Peter is, without a doubt, one of the industry's most unique and talented individuals ; that MS recognized that, and decided to help his studio stay afloat via acquistion, is a feather in their cap.
Sony, on the other hand, never showed interest in him, or his ideas...they could have just as easily done what MS did, if they'd so desired.
The reason this has NOTHING to do with Sony, or the PS3
Again... GDC stands for Game Developers Conference (not Game Developers Conference: Microsoft Oversees Attending Parties and Those Allowed to View Speakers) and you bet your arse every type of developer was present for this. They don't believe in fanaticism as much as consumers. If anything their belief is called competitive business actions. I will go with their views though, since it is in their best interest to bring me the best games so I will purchase them.
I will agree to disagree about the relevance of the PS3 stamp on this article as I don't see us coming to any other conclusion. =)
Yah and why is PS3 first in the headers on this site. PS3, 360, Wii, Xbox, PS2, ect. J/K
nice to have Peter Molyneux of Lionhead Studios on the 360 side :) .
power of green yeah a good point why is the ps3 first in the list , this site is prob run by sony fanatics lol .
I love Lionhead Studios, they always have something very creative and fun. Even in Black and White 2 you could play with the black and white 'pixels' in the logo as if it were a box as sort of a minigame before you started the actual game. I played with that more than I have played some actual titled games.
I don't think I fully understand what they were trying to portray with this presentation but I am very excited to see some of the things this concept will produce.
Off topic, but has anyone heard anything about Spore lately? It's been quite some time since I have heard any news on that game.
You are such a breath of fresh Air, earlier you were speaking to a massive fanboy. Agree to diagree, like you have and continue on buddy. A good number of individuals care about innovative Games, not just SCE or MS or NT who the hell cares if MS doesnt exist in 15 yearsVideo Games (in way shape or form) will be around for a loong time, and this is what matters. Molyneux understands this and so do non fanboys. Great job showing some true maturity, I got your back.
Thank you, Jak. Your kind words go a long way and I appreciate them. I can't imagine a world without Microsoft or Sony but as long as someone is around to make horrible, bad, good, great, and phenominal video games then I will be there to purchase them until I die.
God Bless and thank you again! =)
-Do you; know what it means?-
-Quote: who the hell cares if MS doesnt exist in 15 yearsVideo Games (in way shape or form)".
I'm not a fan of PS, I don't play any PS games nor do i have any PS console's.
It's simple!, i disslike the platform and it's exclusive's and i wouldn't be (what you call a gamer/fanboy) if it wasn't for Microsoft's inovations in their console's.
masssive Fanboy?, Oh! that's Looser talk!, Come with me to reality, you'll find choice and freedom, join us and see people choose what they like and what they don't like; with out being Cruisified.
Fable 2 will be stellar!!!. What exactlly does this have to do with PS3 again?, oh! i know! Pete M is in the industry.
#4.1 you should ask #4.2 out on a date.
I dare you guy's to ask people in public on the street or in malls and game shops what console's they have prefference for, I dare you to call them that nerd fu*ker term "fanboy" , nevermind the response from them(what a weirdo) if you feel stupid thinking that way & stupid for what you said , you're not a complete loser at that point.
Now i'm going to go read the "PS3's a bust" artical.
Get off of it, and while your busy doing that grow up and learn that competition brings creativity.
Dont be a Tard.
he's stated that property and marriage and such would actually matter this time around. your house actually ages and starts to fall apart. your kids grow as you progress through the game. a lot of potential. i'll just have to bypass all future fable 2 news so that i can't be let down with all of the things they take out. fable was good, just missing too many promised features for my taste.
Nice tech demo - really awesome stuff going on there. It amuses me that despite this the only noticeable reaction from the audience was to laugh at a large orange and a big penis!
cool stuff indeed and even cooler to be a gamer! These type of break throughs are good for gaming as a whole and will eventually bring us to the point to where our emotions play a huge role in the actual game's of the future!
surely he showing of windows vsta and what it can do on the pc.
Thwip and Power are hella insecure. This demonstration is for all gamers, not for strictly you guys. Selfish crybabies, haha. Great video. Molyneux kicks ass.
still working on that facade aren't yah
that was clearly a dev wanting more for games.i don't care who he works for.the ideas he has can only help the industry as a whole.thwip and power of green are just foaming at the mouth ready to bite.they're not real gamers.just insecure fanboys.
i agree with tut.thanks news bot for the heads up on this video.can't wait for games to push the envelope beyond the same fighting,racing and shooting stuff.
Stop useing my saying "rabbid". You have to be personally insulting folks and bashing and chasing folks, simlpy calling people names and talking sh*t is rabbid, pointing out facts you don't want to hear isn't.
DJ, the "me Too! out cry" isn't all that different than being a Selfish crybaby, i know you've been around kids.
I agree with DJ and shadowgamer about, "i don't care who he works for.the ideas he has can only help the industry as a whole" besides microsoft is full of people just like Peter Molyneux who are schooling other game developers and changing the way xbox owner play (first) and forcing other like sony to catch up(second). Nothing wrong teaching non-microsoft developers a thing or two. Besides, XBox 360 gamers shouldn't fee bad since they will be benefiting from these developers innovations and Ideas way before the other developers play catch up and implement the same for other consoles. Magic of having guys like these at 1st party developers. as XBox 360 gamers we have to learn to share. and DJ is right, Microsoft's "Molyneux kicks ass".
but there are devs like quantum dreams that want to tell a story that is as moving as any book or movie.indigo prophecy was one.omikron:the nomad soul was another game they made that pushed the envelope.just take a look at the "HEAVY RAIN" demo as an example.
lucas arts wants to create games that have unchoreographed animation.example:the indiana jones demo.they are also working with physics for the next star wars games.
rockstar and sony are trying to come up with living breathing cities.the gta series last gen was their first attempt.the demo from sony's getaway for ps3 shows what they want to accomplish.same with the game AFRIKA.a living, possibly breathing animal habitat.
these are just some examples of devs pushing the envelope.and they are not OWNED by microsoft.but good try trying to twist it to your needs bladestar.
objects age: Indy, Fable2, Star Wars, ect will get physical, but will the thug in GTA age, will the city change.
of these ideas are being implemented into Fable 2 , count on it.
I've been looking for a video of this for over a year. Thank you for this.
Hell yeah Fable 2 is Running on the Havok Physics engine. This Demo looks like it uses a Havok engine 3.0 beta or something. That Video is amazing since i seeing for the first time. By the way is Fable Good?
....do you even know what a "physics engine" is? Heh. I haven't seen the vid yet, but this sounds like mostly homebrew, completely new material rather than most anything Havok has done.
enjoyed it very much but some of Mr. Molyneux's ideas were not implemented into the game because of time and hardware constraints. Fable 2 will have none of the latter.
I remember reading an interview with Peter a while back and he mentioned about how the world will age and change as the game progresses and the player will be able to shape those changes.
This guy is amazing, keep it up Pete!
I'm disapointed this will never be released, just think of all the fun you could have with that demo.
Picking up and manipulating objects and searching through bookcases and desk drawers relevant to gameplay is already being done but including such details merely because you can just to make the 'world' more realistic, is wasteful of system resources and really doesn't add much to the experience if you are supposed to be focused on the goal of reaching the end of the game. It also complicates things unnecessarily because you will be picking up and examining every object in the game instead of only the ones that are required. So a game like an RPG that takes 40 or 50 hours to complete now, may end up taking hundreds of hours because you are now wasting time with things that do not advance the plot. Who cares that you can take the apple from the fruit bowl and throw it out the window if it is totally unrelated to actual game content?? A game needs focus. A totally free form world with thousands of objects that can be picked up and handled in every location detracts from the plot of the game by making too many unnecessary actions possible. Objects that don't need to be manipulated in order to advance the game should remain static.
You focking IDIOTS!!
This news applies to gaming you dipsh!ts. If you play games and enjoy them, then it for all I care the "News Bot" could have included the DS for all I give a sh!t. Quit being such focking fanb!tches.
someone with one bubble calls other people fanboys
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