Konami's community manager clears away confusion regarding story DLC and revisiting Camp Omega.
That person is either lying or have been misinformed. Camp Omega was supposed to be used for Single Player missions.. “People who own GZ will be able to play a different mission(s) at Camp Omega in TPP. That’s the current plan. There’s something of a big feature involved. It’s never been done in the games industry before. So I can’t go into detail about it, but I think when you experience it for yourselves you’ll be surprised. It’s something that’s only possible through video games.” You know what i think happened... Chapter 3 was done but needed more polish time and Konami rushed the game and will make CH3 a 30$ expansion for the game.
I dont think anything is happening. The Phantom Pain's story content is done with. Nothing is coming. It's amazing that regardless of the cut content, TPP is one of 2015's best game and perhaps the best stealth game ever. However I cant help but imagine if Kojima would have planned better project management for the game and Konami had a bit more patience, what the game could be.
I love the game. But i really think Konami messed the game up somehow. You say Phantom Pain story content is done with but we dont know, because they can simply release more if they want as dlc.
*slight spoilers* Konami needs to bring Kojima back to finish chapter 3. as well as some DLC to bring back Quiet.
@Rashid I'm afraid you're right. After the twist in chapter 46 it seems impossible to me to add an entire new chapter. They would almost have to do away with the implications of chapter 46 (like making it out to be a dream sequence or something) to be able to continue finishing up the rest of the story. <SPOILER> I could care less about the medic from Ground Zeroes even though I've played him for 80+ hours. Big Boss is and should always remain the central character in this game. <END SPOILER> Normally I could see Kojima pulling something like this off, but not under the current circumstances with Konami.
The story isn't done with in my opinion. There is the whole chapter 51 thing. But other than that, there is the question: SPOILER!!!: What has the real Big Boss been doing? Maybe even Play as him in Chapter 3 maybe? I really hope they will bring DLC to be honest, I just can't get enough of this game.
They simply don't want to spend more money on development. The game was too expensive allready. https://translate.google.ch...
I agree, depending on final sales... they'll wait till there in the green then use that userbase to make more money with DLC. I cant blame Konami entirely this was Kojima's project and he probably went over time and budget and as result we get an unfinished product (still a fantastic game but were always gonna be left thinking of what could have been ?) and this probably what led to the falling out, granted Konami handled it terribly but there is fault on both sides...
You cant actually call it "story dlc" that would mean we bought an incomplete game. An expansion or an entire new MGS game sure... But "story dlc", are you really so desperate to see how BB became a "bad guy"? Just freaking head cannon it dammit! Thats what I did with Mass Effect 3
"You cant actually call it "story dlc" that would mean we bought an incomplete game." It doesn't mean that at all really. The Last of Us had story DLC and yet was a complete game. Other complete games have had story DLC as well. Having said that I don't doubt that MGS5 was unfinished. The place where that was most obvious was the jeep ride with Snake and Skull Face, but that whole sequence and the fight that followed seemed like they should have been at the end of the game instead of where they were. Odd to put them there unless something bigger was planned to be at the end.
wishful thinking i seriously doubt we will ever get single player dlc https://www.youtube.com/wat... community manager confirms no dlc but how many more articles will it take. MGS5 is done maybe MGS series is done. so while we all want more chances of happening is very very slim
This game NEED STORY DLC.
I second that, the disagree crowd seriously has no idea how annoying this ending is to long term MGS fans. ESPECIALLY with the knowledge episode 51 and Chapter 3 "Peace" is out there somewhere.
I like how everybody acts like Kojima was the golden goose in this story. It took him 5 years to make an incomplete game. Thats longer than what Team ICO takes per game (not counting Last Guardian). You guys can defend Kojima all you want. He dropped the ball when it came to development and only has his own "perfectionist" ways to blame. I can sit here and bad mouth Konami all day if I want, but a $80 000 000 investment has to start paying for itself and waiting 5 years for that to happen would make ANYBODY go crazy! Konami was just tired of waiting for that to happen and took matters into their own hands.
True But you know what people are like with Kojima. Still...they are both to blame why the game feels less like a MGS game and also incomplete/repetitive.
This game shouldve gone the MGS 3 route. The illusion of open world but not really. That wouldve worked just fine... But no... Its as if Kojima went "F the hardcore fans and their in depth narrative and exposition. I better cater to the GTA, GOW and COD demographic but make it blander.... some how..."
Sometimes I feel like the western marketed has influenced him in ways. Instead of doing his own thing which has worked because that's how the series started, he was influenced so much with open world games and wanted to do one. However instead of doing a new IP he tried to change a franchise into something completely different resulting in what we have now. Something I've literally just talked about in a blog I wrote on here Like I said in my blog, good game or bad, it's not really an evolution of the series in my opinion, it's a mutation He's said before how western games have caught his attention and he's obsessed with Hollywood. It's also the reason why I think he got Sutherland for Snake, even though with what he actually did in the game there was no need for Sutherland, he didn't do anything better then what Hayter could have done. Sutherland was a waste of money and added to the funding of the entire game
Umm you do relize in those 5 years we got a hd port on ps3 of older mgs games done by his team and we got that stupid mgs rising game he had some work done on it. sense 2010 kojima and his staf had peace walker/rising crap and the hd ports plus phantom pain. If you say a guy and his team were lazy doing 5 games in 6 years ok then but i think he did a dam good job konami should have gave him another year. The cut tech demo was also a 2010 demo https://www.youtube.com/wat... Alot of work in 6 years.
you cant say any of this without knowing the true inside story. for all we know Kojima did make more content but Konami cut it or they just wouldnt let him finish it into the final game. this could be the reason they had a falling out even. anything said either way is just speculation at best.
they took most of that time on fox engine.. also 5 system launch with a realitvly small team. i doubt mgs v had more then 3 full years
mgs5 story is by far the weakest in the series
wit yeh not really, his team delivered 5 games in 6 years. also welcome to AAA gaming where it takes 3 to 5 years. look at Bethesda they been working on fallout 4 since fallout 3 and that 80 million has been made back and than some so what's the problem? that's like saying R* should be punished for taking long with GTA5 even though it has sold 35 plus million copies stop trying to act like you have an honest opinion when all you are doing is bashing kojima do some research and see how busy kojima productions have been over the last 6 years. also if he had done a mgs3 type world than you would be the one saying this is 2015 and we need a true open world game make up your mind because either way kojima will be bashed
So close to finishing the game, and after most of chapter 2, i want them to make up for it, since's it's most the same missions. Need more story content!
I love The Phantom Pain, but I agree that it's barely a MGS game. Perhaps Kojima was wanting to do a new open world IP, but Konami forced Kojima to make a new MGS game. So he turned MGS into the game he wanted to make. I can't think of any other dev that spent 28 years making one series and didn't get bored. Hell, I love MGS, but if I spent 5 years making one I'd hate it. It would be a real shame if we don't get Chapter 3 as the story **SPOILERS*** with Sahalanthropus and Elliah is completely unresolved. As great as the game is no game should get a pass for this. Even the launch trailer had cutscene clips that are clearly from the missing Chapter 3. I hope Konami wasn't dumb enough to think no one would notice.
so does this mean, that it will eventually come?
No. Plus, Mission 51 doesn't really add anything substantial to the core story. It is just ending a secondary character's story in that game. The story of TPP was finished and people who are hating on it are probably the same people who hated MGS2 and never understood the message Kojima was conveying. This is indeed another MGS2 moment in the saga and I am happy Kojima took this path. Catering to fans' needs would jeopardize his vision and I don't want to play a game where I know how it will end. It is simply not fun and we won't talk about it afterwards. I love TPP's ending and I think the presentation of the game from the moment it was announced till the end was genius.
Story wise it's a mess gameplay king though
Slight spoilers but.. I need her back, DLC or not. https://www.youtube.com/wat...
Not only were we to be able to revisit Camp Omega, but the camp was to be fully open to explore. Some parts of the base/prison were off limits in Ground Zeroes.
"Aww poor Kojima never did anything wrong, he would have got away with making a complete game if it was for that meddling kid Konami" - 90% of N4G. It took Kojima five years to take a huge dump on my favorite character in the series? It took him 80M to ruin Big Boss? If I wanted to play as myself I'd play Final Fantasy X, or another JRPG. Shout out to being the first Metal Gear title I've ever sold, and shout out to Amazon for $40 trade in credit. It's okay though, at the end of the day Kojima is a saint for putting up with Konami /s
You can keep crying and hating, but nothing is gonna change Get over it! take your $40 and buy other game (btw you know you're lying, you haven't sold this game)
You're right, the damage is done. I don't need to get over it. I was cheated out of $60 because Kojima wanted to piss me off by ruining Big Boss, sacrificing dialogue for a retarded twist, removing cutscenes and everything that makes a Metal Gear Solid game a Metal Gear Solid game, it's like Venom Snake really is the game. On the outside you would think it's a MGS game, but at its core it's just an imitation of a great series. I'm allowed to be upset because I liked the series before GZ and TPP and am offended by the lack of content in the game and the backseat the story direction and cutscenes and all other MGS mechanics have taken. I did sell it, because it was a great idea to. I don't buy games for multiplayer I buy them for the story which was poorly delivered with what was supposed to be the last entry in the series. I guess you either haven't beat the game, or you want to join the rest of the Kojima drones and think that everything wrong with the game is Konami's doing. Would you not be upset as a company if you gave a developer $80M and they gave you no updates on the game, what the tentative window of release would be and then they turn around and ask for more money? I doubt you would throw someone $80M if they never told you what it was for and give them more money after they haven't payed you back yet. Konami is in charge of the funding and producing the shipments. Kojima and his development team are the ones that work on the game. Using logic it is Kojima and Co. fault for the game being a disappointment.
anybody remember the African screen from e3 2014 trailer? from the game its missing when punished snake is crying.
No it is not. Mission 43 is its replacement. According to the community manager, that was a placeholder.
check this out: www.youtube.com/watch?v=hv9lh a91IMI
For me it is very clear what happened. 1) The original plan was to develop MGS V in chapters (4 maybe 5 chapters). They released the prologue (Ground Zeroes) and wanted to release this year Chapter 1 (with Skull face arc as a coherent story and an end) they would have release Ch 2 & 3 next year. 2) But something changed. Konami decide to step away from AAA development. And Kojima fed up w/ their bsht break up w/ Konami. 3) They release Chapter 1 plus w/ever was made of Ch 2 and other fillers. STILL, is the best MGS game I've ever played, so go and buy it: enjoy this masterpiece. Almost perfect game.
No Kojima , No DLC :)
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