And why the story is a big slap on the face of hardcore Metal Gear fans.
I'm sure this is Konami not Kojima. Wasn't Konami complaining how expensive the game was to make?
My guess is that Konami wanted MG to jump on the story dlc bandwagon and Kojima left because of that.
I seriously doubt that... I think Konami got irritated with Kojima for breaking the game time frame for releasing TTP. Then made a plan by releasing GZ as a stand alone game to get some of their revenue back to please board members and Konami investors. A year later when the game still wasnt ready they forced him to release it anyways.. Ready or not.. Ending up in a massive fallout between the two, seeing Kojima was only about 66% complete with the game. And had to copy and paste most of the missions from chapter 1 to chapter 2 and delete chapter 3 altogether. Forcing him to make the story work some how. Then in the end decided to remove his own name from the game (even though its displayed in ever possible main op level) seeing that this wasnt the version he wanted to release. Not by a long shot. A man over estimated himself, his staff and time was against him. This isnt some Kojima twist of "The Phantom Pain has some deep meaning like: The game is missing a vital part of itself." It was a man with a vision but it was even too ambitious for himself to make especially in the situation he was already in.
Kojima did not have the authority to remove his name from the game. He had been fired as an executive by Konami. Konami would not allow him to make such a choice. It would have been better for them had his name been on it but they wanted to teach everyone working for them a lesson and decided to make an example of him. Kojima had zero authority in such labeling areas. I agree it is likely they did force him to finish the game and make whatever concessions necessary for a pre-October release. I believe the threat would have been they would remove him entirely and shove matters out the door. In addition, Kojima has never been one to dodge responsibility and has remarked that any shortcomings in his games were of his own making. While I think DLC of one type or another will appear, it seems more likely Konami just wanted the game shipped as the costs were rising drastically and they were feeling the bottom line impact.
So why Kojima sad that MGS-V best mgs he ever did? Considering that he always bitching about some thing he couldn`t achieve in development (like it was on MGS4) it`s just doesn't make sense. I think Kojima responsible with Konami in equal measure. For being over ambitious (he knew resources he had on his hands) and being lying piece of shit.
Easy.. For hype. Maybe the original vision of MGS V would've been the best MGS he ever made if it didnt go through development hell. I for one still wanna know where the hell that whole $80 000 000 budget went to. This IMO seems more like a $35 000 000 game as it stands now. It boggles my mind!!!
Everyone think differently about what is best. Only Kojima can answer that question, but he always did want to make MGS in open world style.
Ok calm down. I think that from a gameplay perspective, he thought it was really special, and from a gameplay perspective it is. He always made it sound like story would take a back seat in this one, and it did. It's a bummer that there is some stuff missing at the end (and some open plot threads), but calling this game 66% finished is disingenuous. No one calls Shadow of the Colossus that, and there was supposed to be 25 collosi. Games have their content cut. Its what happens. The way it was cut in MGSV makes certain threads feel incomplete, I agree, and its perfectly fine to criticize that, but the game is incredible in its own right, and the main plot arc still builds to a satisfying conclusion. From my perspective, the story ends at mission 31 and then there is some bonus content after. With the expectations out there, this game could never live up to all of them. Some critique is great, but at what point are we just complaining that the game ended?
Kojima wanted to make best MGS ever, while Konami wanted to make it faster, so they made him cut the corners.
Yeah LMAO a whole year later than it was supposed to be released....Jesus you Kojima fanboys are pathetic, wasting time and money is more than likely the reason they let him go.... Im so tired of idiots who want to blow Kojima defending every little thing and trying to blame everyting on Konami cause its the hip thing to do...Get over it there are 2 sides to every story and I seriously doubt Kojima is blameless
How are unfinished assets considered cut content? You people wanted missions and cutscenes that where 30% done?
It was content being worked on that was never put into the game. Cut content. To be completely honest I would be happy to buy an Epilogue DLC. This game is plenty of content for $60 as-is and a bit more closure would be well-worth it.
Answers ? To make paid dlc like every developer in the industry they will try to seem nice but most of them cut content to earn money, i cant say its bad in this case because this game kept md playing for a week and I hardly game anymore
...and why are there side missions, repeated main missions, 3 - 5 cutscenes, endless dribble tape dialogue, no story, shit story, open world with nothing to do, extract this, extract that, fulton animals, fulton vehicles, no BB, why a medic and Mother Base. Sincerely, MGS fans.
I need.. Chapter 3 :'(
so GOTY turns into turd suddenly?
Agreed and would like to add completely ignoring a certain character that should have been part of this story according to previous games and major one at that
What a self-entitled statement. Kojima has nothing to answer for, he gave as much as he could with the admittedly massive budget he had. He probably would have kept working on it for another 5 years if Konami allowed him to keep sinking money into it.
So your telling me... The $80 000 000 budget this game had and 4 year development cycle is justified to the content we got??? OMFG, I'm a big Kojima whore as much as the next fan but thats just a damn lie, and you know it!
I really think Kojima could have done much much more with higher budget/longer development time. Also lets not forget what happened between Kojima and Konami, that could have affected the game more than we thought.
Do you have experience in video game development? You cant quantify only content against the budget theres so much more that goes into making games. In this instance i think a significant portion of the funding went in to developing the fox engine from the ground before the game was even in the conceptual stage. Destinys budget was almost twice that of mgs 5 and is half the game. Just accept the game for what it is, a masterpiece despite its flaws.
Yeah, that was a lie. I'm an employee at Konami and I know exactly how Kojima and his team spent that money; booze and hookers.
I need the content, I refuse to accept the "Ending" we were given as the final MGS ending. Not bad mind you, just not the ending to a series, just an ending to another damned episode.
MGS4 was that final ending. Go play that.
Rookie, finished em' all.
you know, i just finished it yesterday and i swear to god i felt so angry, that plot twist was like a massive kick to the balls, and those story missions on extreme like the skulls one made me question if it was actually kojima who made this game, coming to think about it, the story is weak as it can be, the plot twist was known but i was hopping it wouldnt go this way, and i dont even think a voice actor was needed for bigboss, maybe it was not kojima who made this game after all , and ohmygod how annoying is this code talker guy, his voice just made me cringe, couldnt stand him talking about hamburgers or even important story related elements
That ending made the game feel like it might as well have been a dream sequence.
Stand back, cry baby entitlement article! lol "cut content"?? Soooo when did any of you play the content and then they removed it? How can it be "cut" if it was NEVER going to be in the final game? That is like saying Terminator 1 is a rip off because they "cut" Terminator 2 and 3 from it! LOL! When did you sign some contract saying you where buying the whole studio's assets? LOL! (lolz so hard,....heart attack!) Kidz theses days. When you guys actually work and own your own business, come back and make such claims when they are actually valid and legitimate. Most of this is just assumptions, crying, whining and straight content begging as if they should work for free for you. And to think, they cut all this out of MGS1...sad. Consider MGS2, 3 and 4 might all just be cut content from MGS1, I mean...what if MGSV is part of that too? OH DEAR! (begins writing letter to congressmen) We are putting a STOP TO THIS! /s
i have no idea what you just said
Oh everyone is entitled to you. If you care then why do you care so much about what others thing. Cut content, is vut content....no developer or game should get a pass. Most of your post was gibberish
Just another reason to wait .... I will give this one a miss I think , I will pick it up in a year or so when it cost $20 or less . So many broken games this gen.
They need to give a helluva lot of answers not just about the cut content but about the barren world, boring side-ops, repetitive main missions in chapter (seriously, what is this shit), etc What really gets to me is how people are defending this horrible mission design with comments such as "you can play it differently" No, I am sorry, but if the game forces you to REPLAY the SAME main missions (don't even get me started on the side ops!) and doesn't even bother to remove the tutorials, it speaks of incredibly LAZY design and has no justification WHATSOEVER in the lore or anywhere else. Its just a major fuck-up. Kojima needs to answer for why he ruined the franchise towards the very end with this nonsense.
Bunch of crybabies. Still the greatest game ever made and revolutionary for the industry the same way resident evil 4 was
Give me one game that has better gameplay than it. Nothing is even close. My obvious fanboyism aside its an easy fact to see
You folks need to get over this and move on. Kojima created the saga and can do whatever he wants with it. He don't need to give any answers. Metal Gear fans can be such whiners and I bet these complains are still going on after a decade.
That line of reasoning is bullshit. "You have no right to complain so just shut up and take it." <--That's you. That's what you sound like. So next time you go eat at a fancy restaurant and the waiter brings out a turd sandwich and diet coke instead of your filet mignon and Chateau Margaux, just "get over this and move on." The chef created the dish and can do whatever he wants with it.
Go ahead and complain, but it won't help you.
So you're really just playing as a body double where the only objective is to spread the legend of Big Boss? How disappointing.
Well, my educated guess is that the plot of MGS V was unfinished to make another metal gear.
lociefer - I thought I was the only one that hates the Code Talker tapes. I had to force myself through them to get more of the story but Gaaaawd I hated his voice.
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