We takes a look at gaming trends and how so-called “interactive movies” like Until Dawn fit in the big picture.
Yes... Nuff said. Next Question.
Which reminds me of this: "SONY LOOKING TO REACH CASUAL GAMERS WITH PS4 Broad appeal. BY ALEX OSBORN Sony Computer Entertainment has every intention of expanding the PlayStation ecosystem, and to do so, the company plans to broaden its appeal to casual consumers. During its annual Investor Relations Day, Sony revealed its strategy for growing its gaming division, in which the company plans to "acquire casual users while further strengthening the engagement of core gamers through relevant title offerings." When I viewed YouTube Let's Plays of Until Dawn the largest viewership were on PewDiePie, Markiplier, Jacksepticeye and theRadBrad.- all Let's Players that appeal to teenagers and kids. Man this is a brilliant move by Sony. I was thinking about kiddie games but they made a game for the 19 and up again. Brilliant strategy!
adventure games have been around longer than FPS shooters, they are legitimate games, lucasArts was a publisher dedicated to making adventure games, Myst is one of the biggest selling games in PC history. In Japan they are the dominant genre on PC. Its just that adventure games never got a chance to establish themselves on consoles where the big money is and they went into decline in the west. now games like Walking Dead and now UD are finding that right formula for success David Cage tried to grasp.
@NewMonday- agreed, Lucasarts adventure games were a big deal in the 90s- the Monkey Island series topped the charts forever. But then when they got the Star Wars video game rights back, they soon shirfted focus and produced nothing but Star Wars action games. I couldn't believe how dead the genre became in the early 2000s. Sure there was the odd game like the Runaway series, but they were few and far between. But then Tell-tale was founded from ex-Lucasarts employees and they eventually brought it back to the mainstream.
@newmonday Exactly. People act like these types of games are some new phenomenon that just came about last gen because of Quantic Dream. But there are critically acclaimed and fan loved adventure games across all platforms, dating all the way back to the original PC...even before really. It's just an extension of Adventure or Zork, and the story-telling and presentation just keeps getting better and better as they compete with one another. A person doesn't have to like them, but questioning their place in the industry because of that distaste is just narcissistic.
It's a niche market and hope Sony don't get turned of becuse this game is not a million copy seller. I really loved it and want another one like it.
Well, we are getting Quantic Dreams next game either 2016 or 2017 and there is Life is Strange which is amazing. So this genre is rising and its becoming one of my favorite genres. Oh and btw Heavy Rain and Beyond Two Souls and Walking Dead and Life Is Strange sold above million copies. So there is a developing fanbase for the genre my friend :)
LOL! Niche? With the massive free marketing the most popular Let's Players behind this game we will see about that.
Until Dawn is topping the European charts and actually outselling MGS5PP in France. its doing great.
Based on my sales in my store, it's outpacing Heavy Rain significantly so I would say it's going to be over a million before the holidays hit. I say this do to my initial stock and how regularly we restock. We've restocked a 4th time already. It's destroying my Gears of War by a significant amount just to give you an idea how well it's doing.
That's is awesome at that it is selling extemly well and outselling Gears which is well know franchise,this game deserves it and cannot wait for another one!
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Wait... how many years has TellTaleGames been putting out games like this? And now we question if they have a place in the industry? Stop harping on a notable title just for hits. This question only appears when "certain" titles pop up and not at any of the many other games like it (or less involved than it) pop up. Where were these questions for Everybody's Gone to the Rapture?
I think the answer to your question is in plain sight. IT'S AN EXCLUSIVE TO THE PS4!
Sorry Double Post.
Double tap huh.....lol I agree though....where theres an audience theres a market Sony do variety and will continue to take them risks supporting the genre
Of course, duhh!
Is this game worth it? I borrowed it from a friend but is it worth the time/effort?
Well you went far enough to borrow it why not try it out?
Yes! This is one of the best games the generation. It's a little campy and silly but the dialog is sharp and the gameplay is spot on. There's plenty to collect, the pacing is balanced between the stress and the laughs, and the gameplay styles are really diverse to keep you on your toes. Play it in the dark with the volume up. I jumped quite a few times.
Anything that is entertaining and can find an audience has a place in the game industry
Ugh I hate articles like this. If people are playing and enjoying Until Dawn then of course it has a place in the industry! Why do video game journalists try so hard to bring down certain games? If less games existed, they would have less games to write about!
Did you read it? "As discussed, there is obviously a market for games like Until Dawn. What remains to be seen is exactly how big that market it, and whether it will last. There is a reason the style of Dragon’s Lair never caught on back in the day." They're right. Big budget games like this will only be a once in a blue moon thing. Reason being, this is a money driven world, however right or wrong that is, it's fact. These games just don't hit the kind of numbers that the suits and ties like to see. Granted things can change, hopefully they will, I'd love to have a Heavy Rain or Beyond: Two Souls type game every year, by multiple devs mind you.
Once in a blue moon? Heavy Rain, Beyond, Alan Wake, Walking Dead or anything from Telltale, Quantum Break, Until Dawn, Without Memory, Sherlock Holmes games, numerous untalked about indie titles which admittedly aren't big budget but often get critical acclaim, any number of Japanese virtual novel type deals like the XBlaze series, etc. Seems that these games have quite a place in the industry, but people put too narrow of a focus on what the genre includes. Also, the style of Dragon's Lair was quite popular back in the day, and elements live on today in the style of QTE's. It is a money driven world, and a lot of these games do make money, which is why they keep getting made, and why we see big budget productions of them.
@Rainslacker None of Telltale's games are big budget though. I'm talking about AAA budgets, those are once in a blue moon. Telltale's game will always have a market because they're cheaply made.
I think our definition of big budget is different from one another. While TWD was certainly not in the same league as the other games I've mentioned, and probably closer to things like XBlaze or other things of that nature from Japan, it was not what I would consider an indie budget game...which is what I felt you were inferring in your initial post. TWD had heavy licensing fees, a huge marketing campaign, expensive voice acting, and a new/upgraded engine created to produce the game, which TT now uses in other games so not a direct cost. While I don't have concrete numbers, TWD's budget was probably somewhere in the 15-30 million dollar range, which to me says that it required substantial investment, and AAA workflow. The credits of TWD games are about as long as any game of this nature sans the motion capture crew. Everything else in it isn't cheaper just because the graphics are static. There was a fully rendered 3D world within the game, tons of animations which were probably a combination of mo-cap and human produced, lots of lighting and shading effects, professionally produced music at hollywood movie quality, etc etc etc. There are other games out there as well which can fit into my criteria. For instance there's a new King's Quest game, Leasure Suit Larry, Any number of online games which I'd say are mid-tier budgets, Resident Evil 2: Revelations(A hybrid), D4, etc. I think people are focusing too much on one specific aspect of what the genre is, and not looking at it as a whole. The Adventure game genre is pretty broad, and Until Dawn is just a different way of presenting the old point and click games of yesteryear, and because of that, I find them to not be anything really new, and feel their place in the industry is just as credible as any other. There are plenty of people that enjoy their games, and with the success of many of the games I've mentioned, I don't doubt that many companies will look to cash in like they did with the FPS craze early last gen. Given that these games are much cheaper to produce than most AAA games either way, it just makes sense, and I'm surprised it's taken so long.
'If less games existed, they would have less games to write about!' Well said man, well said. Humility is not the forte of those.
Some people don't like to keep their jobs. LOL!
No, just no...only FPS games bro (sips mountain dew) /s
The fact that the media and gamers are talking about Until Dawn gives this game a nice place in the industry. On a different note: I think Sony will make this into a franchise - the "Until" franchise. Can't wait for Supermassive's next game!
Agreed. They were right to delay this game and make it a PS4 game, given the better hardware, they really made great use of it and I'm sure we would not be seeing this game the way we are now if it was still on PS3. One of the few times I would ok a next gen release vs a last gen release. They where really able to put that new power to great use. I hope it becomes a franchise too! We need that sequel, "Until Dusk" lol
I like this genre of games. They're quite easy to complete and very relaxing.
Until Dawn is the biggest surprise for me this year. Bloody amazing. Way better than any other game in the genre I ever played and the graphics. These damn graphics are mindblowing. I want more of the same.
Variety has always a place in this industry
Yes. Every game has it's niche. Until Dawn isn't for me, but it doesn't mean it doesn't belong.
Why would the author pose this question when this genre has existed for so long and has just been getting more and more popular ever since telltale's walking dead?
When people get pissed at the "interactive movie" genre I think their first problem is that they're labeling it "interactive movie" without considering any of the gameplay. If there's any kind of gaming element to it.... then it's a game!... you can't dispute that. I understand that most use this designator to tarnish the image of this form of entertainment they're not fond of & being a fan of "movie" type games that are heavy on story; this sucks. Stop it... Let me and the millions of other fans enjoy the experience.
Yea 'interactive movie' gives a wrong idea of the game to people who haven't played it. You do move characters and explore, it's not just watching something unfold. I think of 'interactive movie' more like a sort of exaggerated compliment for the game to feel so immersive and real even though some will use that as some sort of trolling. It makes me think more of modern days immersive point and click adventure games.
Exactly my sentiments. It's more interactive = more engaging = game. A lot of detractors who won't even give it a shot even though there have been a couple great ones this year like Until Dawn and Life is Strange. Really hope Life is Strange gets a disc release as well.
It's in my collection. That's a YES.
what a hilariously dumb question 😂😂
Um...yeah. Games like this have been around since 1983's "Dragon's Lair."
Next article be like, "games.....are they fun?"
NOPE...Strafe...Shoot...Jump.. .Stra.../S Idiot article about a great game!!!
"The current direction gaming is going is a full reliance on gameplay and a minimization of story elements. Look at Metal Gear Solid V." What a load. With games like Uncharted 4 and Quantum Break being the most anticipated titles on each respective platform, to say that story driven games are off beat is ridiculous.
Is this some kind of stealth downplaying the success of Until Dawn? Retarded article article.
my wife who in the 10+ years we have been together has been interested in 3 games EVER & i play 40+ games each year. She was calling me at work the last couple days to make sure we were going to play Until Dawn tonight after we put our son to bed! Finished it last night the game was great!
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