The Mole pays Ars' gaming editor a visit with violent but happy news on Xbox 360 pricing. Price cuts are coming, much sooner than expected.
They should lower the prices on the HDD's to a more reliable price atleast Arcade one is at 199$ in September and game bundles for the holiday.
I have heard that these last 360s are more reliable than the old ones.
Damn. 199 for the arcade? That puts it at cheaper than a Wii. It's a damn shame that Nintendo started selling the Wii for so much. It's little more than a GameCube based on the hardware inside the thing, and it can receive a wireless internet signal. That's pretty much all it's got going for it. And they charge 250 for the bad boy. In my opinion, the Wii is totally not worth that price, especially with the 360 arcade, which contains far more powerful hardware, being cheaper in September. All the weirdy's who continue to buy Wii's with it's gigantic library of complete crap and rather small library of good games at a price that's got to be somewhere in the range of 300% mark-up versus Nintendo's cost to manufacture is a downright fool. Gamers ought to blackball Nintendo until they lower the price on their machine and while they're at it they need to step up production on some more quality hardcore games at their in-house studios.
preach, brother. halleluyah Now if only those casual games would wisit n4g now and then. they can keep their wii. but to limit yourself to only a wii is a darn shame. buy a 360 or a ps3 as well, such difference in hardware and software should not be missed. especially with pricess comming down.
If this is the cause Sony better hope they can still turn a profit by lowering the PS3 price. They have made there first profit but I know that they won't drop the PS3 price if they can't continue to make a profit. The Investors would kill them, but it this is true they need to do something.
Does anyone know if these are refurbs sold as new or are these entire brand new systems? I remember something about refurbs being sold as new...I hope not, that Elite looks miiiiight nice :)
I highly doubt those prices will reflect the actual price drop, but if they are the real numbers... it shows MS ain't B*llsh*tt*n with this battle! Those prices including bundles and with all the different games being released this year would be a deadly combination! Alot of casual gamers would basically be forced to buy the console for price alone. Fanboys don't hate my comment. I just stated what kind of potential ripple effect something like this 'could' possibly have! And don't say they only got a couple games, cause if you do... they you didn't look at the release list!
But it is just a rumour. I guess it is Sony Defens Force started that rumour to stop great August XBOX sales because people will start wait till September. But if it is true so there will be very very good for MS. It will wide the gap from PS3. Anyway it is very good autunum for XBOX 360 will price drop happen or not.
should be iCRAZY if you really think the SDF can stop Xbox sales you need to get a grip! ADD ON: Ok your going to piss me off http://forums.gametrailers.... War is War? SDF? Click on that link there buddy Do yourself a solid and stop thinking to hard about this so called WAR! Call it a fight or battle but in todays world "War" holds meaning and for ppl to use it in terms of gaming is STUPID! Its ppl like you that are victims of PR and SPIN
I hate thouse bastards and black PR-methods they use.
That was funny. Oh wait, you're serious. Just sad.
The Open Zone -> Head that way.
iMad and others: FYI Sony Defense Force is a website created by Xbox fans as a joke. look it up
lets call it a sissy fist-slap brawl, atleast, I could brobably win one of those.
Sony Defense Force...lol! That term has always been funny to me. OK, we'll start a new one called M-bak(Microsoft backers), it will be MS last line of defense... LOL! Apply now... we are accepting applications!...lol! Ahhh, I need to quit thinking of stupid sh*t.
lol "War is War" That's possibly the biggest fanboy comment i've ever seen personally. People, it's not that serious. This whole "console war" thing is just fun. Sure some folks here will take things to the heart. But that's when you should take a step back into reality, and think. "Man, I'm gettin riled up over nothing."
just do away with the Arcade version all together. All MS did with the Arcade is paint themselves and the devs into the corner.
Hell no, I'm getting the arcade, just for all the jrpgs. Don't need online, got a PC.
I kind of agree with you! The only reasons for the arcade version is for people who only buy 2-3 games. There are alot of people who only buy Madden or baseball, etc. and will never buy any other games or care about online. Also the arcade is ok for if your 360 dies and you just want a replacement.
Maybe I'll pick up an Xbox then, Fable 2 looks pretty sweet.
yeah i might have to get one for the holidays. its sad though the only reason i really want it is for gears... :(
PS3 will dead if that true. Too many good news for XBOX and too many bad news for PS3 from E3 till nw. Lets see how sales will reflect this
yeah, the predecessor to the king of consoles is dead because the most unreliable console ever made is dropping price. Good logic!
most of them have already bought an x360 it is ps2 owners who need a next gen dive an x360 already costs half as much as a ps3 in europe price cut wont impact sales for x360. but price cut will impact more ps2 owners diving to next gen on ps3 It is about brand preference. MS move is a sign of desperation since the ps3 has already come with 3 million of x360's total WW sales
There is no star for ages. If Sony did work not so good as Nin or MS then they will loose no mater how many PS2 they sold in the past. Don't beleive in non-exists customer who will buy PS3 only because he has PS2. People learn to make research before purchase and make the best choose for their money.
people who have a ps2 would buy an unreliable console without games. mgs4 is a game which is better than all x360 games. Not to mention that ps3 has a much better lineup for Fall too best choice for money? mediocre games , unreliable hardware, 50 $ for online, no wifi support ,no HDMI 1.3 support and people would buy an x360 over ps3??? when they bought ps2/ps1 before good analysis
Well, if you ask me Sony is doing better than both in my eyes. Better hardware, better games and more innovation. This is my opinion and may not be everyones.
PLLLLLLLLEEEEEEAAAAAAAAASSSSSS SSEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!! DONT BUY A PS3!!!!!!! Cheap price = what it is . Cheap pice of crap.
SH!T is on sale YEEEEEAAAA!
microshaft still win when you purchase one of there hard drive . Bots = still retarded ....Is this cheaper than a heater? anyone
I guess its time. Everywhere else has had its second price cut.
Microsoft are really struggling to outsell the Ps2...
Sept-Oct is the start of the holiday shopping season! Its a good move If i can get a brand new Elite for 300 bucks i would buy it 4sure
I'm handing out 3 or 4 360's for christmas so a price cut would be nice.
Are you Santa Claus
Something like that lol.
drop one at. 4969 Itaska st. St. Louis MO 63109 warning:my grandfather has a gun
hey nickel... man, how long has it been? How have you been doing all these years. Gosh, I can't believe I bumped into you again. We really need to exchange xmas cards (and gifts) this year.
is that seriously his real address? cant belive your posting it on here.
Why not some ps3s as well?
That's amazingly generous
Yes! The PS3 will be dead by next year at this rate. EVERYONE can now afford the best hardware on the market now. While the PS3 still lacks power, games, and features and is crazy expensive, the best console is cheap. I predict that this time next year, for every PS3 sold there will be 10 360s sold. PS3 is dead!
And you haven't noticed that this is a rumor? And the ps3 is more powerful than the 360, it also has more features(wifi, bluetooth, bluray)
Desperate times call for desperate measures. Microsoft looks to have displayed another weakness in their product by lowering the price. Xbox 360's sales have been on a steady decline since the release of PLAYSTATION®3 and this trend will still continue. The facts are simply this. If the Xbox 360 was the price of a hamburger, no one would still buy it. The smart consumer will not invest their time in something that will provide you nothing but hellfire and brimstone. Ironically enough, Xbox 360's desperation really showed it's true face when you could purchase one of their pitiful games at a fast food joint. Dark Sniper would rather be assured of a decade long console with decades of entertainment. He knows which platform he's sticking to. $niper
MS lowered costs with Jasper. IT will be still profitable. MS feels a momentum and doing right. Sony lowered PS3 price twice last year. Sniper your are complite idiot and you are loosing.
Operation: Desperate Force!
Sony launched ps3 at 600$ I guess at that price MS would sell 0 consoles to people. and as i said above the ps2 owners wont be picking up an x360 over ps3 BUT most xbox owners already have an x360 price cut didnt impact x360 sales in europe since almost all xbox owners have purchased an x360 there. In usa too x360 has reached its saturation point. momemntum? see sales of Jan-june in US
xBox 360 down to £129.99 xBox 360 Avatar T-Shirt(with a photo of Bill Gate$ on it!)Accessary £299.99!!! ;-D
For a Desperate Console What Next They'll be giving them away free with Compost
Why is this a desperate act? They have shown that they have better games and hardware than PS3, and now it is cheap enough to show everyone. Would you rather have the best looking games, innovating features, and advanced hardware built to last for $299, or would you rather have outdated hardware, no games, the 2 blu-ray movies that exist, and faulty hardware that a monkey could build better for $500? Cheaper price + better than competitors = More sales and death of PS3.
But you got that the Wrong way round "Would you rather have the best looking games(MGS4,R2,Killzone 2) innovating features(LBP) and advanced hardware built to last(Sony PS3 Future Proof) " I already Have you Dumb Bot !!!! " would you rather have outdated hardware(Yes the 360 is outdated) no games(Need i say more) No blu-ray( HD DVD Is DEAD you DUMB BOT) and faulty hardware(RROD) that a monkey could build better HELL NO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You just described the 360 there you jackass AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Name one thing that on the ps3 that's out dated, just one thing. How the 360 is out dated DVD(ps3 has bluray) No wifi (even the DS has it) No bluetooth (even the Wii has it) Hdmi 1.2 (the ps3 has 1.3a) Its processor(there is no denying Cell is more power full than the 360)
The only desperation I see here is with the ps3 fanboys. Xbox 360 price cuts make them nervous.
So they release the 60GB for $350, and then a month later cut it to $300? Doesn't make much sense to me.
otherwise it would be hard to unload all those 20 gig systems @ 299 if the 60 gig was the same price.
and ofcourse i think it is BS
That's what happened with the 80GB PS3. It was $599 until the 60GB models were gone. Then it dropped to $499 about 6 weeks later.
These are just rumors and they most likely wont come to pass. I remember in an interview with Shane Kim about a month or so ago, he said that a Xbox 360 priced at $199 is still very far off. If Microsoft plans on dropping the 60GB 360 to $299.99 in September, then why are they introducing it at $349.99 again? It makes no sense, plus it's just a rumor and it's not even confirmed.
they would have to repay 50$ to all those owners who bought a x360 for 350$ in August. the rumour doesnt make sense
Rumors are rumors. But Microsoft's strategy doesn't make any sense whatsoever, if this turns out to be true.
Being $100 cheaper than your competitor sounds like a good strategy to me.
Um...no. Maybe you should do a little more reading.
So being $100 cheaper is a bad idea? Now I'm confused. Besides, that article doesn't talk about strategy.
I didn't say it was bad. I said that I'm confused by what Microsoft is trying to do here.
I think it's just rude to the consumers who paid $350 for their console, just to get slapped with a price cut soon after.
I already got my 360 so I don't care, but could you please price the hard drive reasonably! 20 gigs isn't cutting it and I am not paying that much money for a dang hard drive. I think this does signal that MS finally realizes they are on a downward spiral right now. Nintendo is already ahead and PS3 is catching up extremely fast even though it costs more! I blame paying for Live. I think its holding them back. Won't EVER be close to selling over 50 million units until its free.
actually if you are taking Canada NP,gfk and US npd numbers x360 is around 18m ..ps3 around 15m by now cant believe that those vg numbers get posted every now and then
ps3 is 5.51 million units behind..not 3 million..
3 mil, 5 mil who cares? It doesn't mean anything until it is 0, and then one PS3 pulls ahead, if it does that is.