Bidness Etc: The PS4’s remarkable success can only mean one thing - breaking the record of its predecessor PS2. Or can it?
It won't with Xbox One being an option. Both will sell very well though The PS4 has been selling great but IMO Microsoft will have the momentum this holiday with Halo 5: Guardians, Gears of War Ultimate edition, Rise of the Tomb Raider, and Forza Motorsport 6 I can see MS overtaking Sony in NA
The wii did 103 million with the 360 and ps3 being options so I fail to see the logic of that statement. So what you're saying is that this holiday will somehow cause the xbox to slow the momentum the ps4 has built over the last 2 years? A momentum that is still going strong? Even if it does overtake the ps4 in NA, which I doubt, how does that affect anything? NA is NOT be all and end all.
And it didn't reach the PS2's numbers. The Xbox 360 and PS3 sold 80 million + The Wii U had the whole motion-controls craze on it's side too and that helped tremendously
It didn't reach the ps2 numbers because the reality is the wii became a door stopper very quickly after people got tied of the motion control fad. The wii sold over 20 million more consoles than the ps3 and xbox 360 yet was outsold in software by the 360 and sold a little more than the ps3. Wii sports being their biggest seller selling 1/3 of their total software sales. that is why the wii did not come close.
The Wii launched at $249 at a time when we seen Xbox 360's for $399 and PS3's for $499. It always maintained a price advantage that was not only a draw for casual gamers, but also made it a nice option as a second console for core gamers. Do you think this applies to this gen? Momentum is building for both the PS4 and Xbox One. Overtaking NA might not be the be all end all, but it would end the chances of PS4 overtaking the PS2. The PS2 owned every market it released in.
@Death The wii had a price advantage that the ps4 does not have, yet the ps4 sales are above what the wii did at this point in time so what does price have to do with anything? "Overtaking NA might not be the be all end all, but it would end the chances of PS4 overtaking the PS2. The PS2 owned every market it released in." The 360 sold 48 million units in the US, the ps2 sold 53 million. If the 360 could have sold 48 then it's very reasonable to assume the ps4 (with it's popularity) can sell close to 50. If the ps2 could have sold 150 world wide while selling 53 in the US alone, then how is it hard to think the ps4 can sell close to 150 by selling close to 50 in the US?
"Overtaking NA might not be the be all end all, but it would end the chances of PS4 overtaking the PS2." Nope.
@John, The Xbox One has outsold the PS4 worldwide for 5 years now. Wow. Making stuff up is kind of fun! Here's Wii sales data so you can stop making outrageous claims. https://en.wikipedia.org/wi... As for lifetime sales, I can't tell the future. I can only see the past and the present. Japan was responsible for over 20 million PS2's. At the pace it is selling in Japan, the PS4 will need 13 years to do the same. Unless this gen goes very long, 150 million will not be as easy as you chose to believe. At the end of two years we will be seeing around 30 million PS4's sold. If it sells the same for 10 years we will see that 150 million number. PS3 fell flat after 7 so it's not likely we will see this. It would be difficult to see this gen last as long as the last. We can expect to start hearing about new consoles in just a few years.
Yeah... no. The XB1 is a decent backup console, I guess. Most of its library is the same as the PS4's, so I'd really recommend the Wii U. I don't know what momentum you think the XB1 will have, but Star Wars, Call of Duty, and the typical variety of PlayStation exclusives will more or less cancel that out. Persona, Disgaea, The Tomorrow Children, SOMA, Samurai Warriors, Dragon Quest, and like a half-dozen more games are still to come. Plus the large number of already-released games like Until Dawn, GOW, Bloodborne, The Order, and others that will have dropped in price for the holidays, making the PS4 library larger and more appealing from an economic standpoint. Frankly, I don't see Microsoft winning anywhere.
"I don't know what momentum you think the XB1 will have, but Star Wars, Call of Duty, and the typical variety of PlayStation exclusives will more or less cancel that out." I'm not sure how Star Wars and Call of Duty which are releasing on both the Xbox One and PS4 cancels out Xbox One exclusives. I can see how you don't see the Xbox One winning anywhere. You can't even see the multiplatform games that release on both consoles as actually releasing on the Xbox One. Each of the past 4 months we have seen the Xbox One increasing it's year over year sales. The increase we are seeing on the Xbox One is called momentum. April up 63% http://www.kitguru.net/gami... May up 81% http://venturebeat.com/2015... June up 51% http://venturebeat.com/2015... July up 44% http://www.mcvuk.com/news/r...
-sigh- Not this stupidity again, Death. Yes, those games are coming out on both consoles. But those games and the bundles they will have with the PS4 will move more PS4s than XB1s. ESPECIALLY with them being mutiplayer-heavy titles, the draw to play against far more opponents- in that the PS4 has essentially doubled the XB1's install base already- will be a big pull, right along with the likelihood that a person's friends will get these games on PS4 instead of XB1. I can't see how you don't grasp that, while you're talking about what people can and can't see. The increase you're talking about is actually DECREASING. While May saw an increase over April, June saw a drop in that rate, and July saw a drop, as well. Not to mention: where are the YOY numbers for the PS4? The fact that the PS4 consistently outsells the XB1 both worldwide and here in the US says that the Xbox is, in fact, NOT gaining momentum. Is it improving over its numbers from last year? With the help of sales and bundles, yes. Is that gaining momentum when it keeps getting outsold by the market leader? We both know the answer to that.
@Spotie Why are you conveniently forgetting bundles that the X1 might also have for Halo 5 and TR? Also other older games like Titanfall, Sunset Overdrive, Gears that will be cheaper come the holiday. Every point you made could also be applied to the Xbox One. "...the draw to play against far more opponents- in that the PS4 has essentially doubled the XB1's install base already-" Does it actually say that on the PS4 box? Because I doubt Joe Consumer would actually know this when walking into his local game shop when buying little Timmy a game console for Xmas. This type of logic is more in line to hardcore gamers who are rigid in their loyalty to a brand.
PS4 sells at a rate of one million plus units a month at $399.99. That's all that we need to know.
Don't know if it will but I'm thinking the lifetime sales will definitely come close. The ps2 lifetime sales is like the 9th wonder of the world but I'm thinking if the ps4 continues at the rate it's going it could probably do over 125 million. Shorter console life cycle may hinder it doing over 150.
Exactly, it's definitely possible for the PS4 to do PS2 numbers, but people have yet to consider that the PS2 was supported an extremely long time well into the PS3's lifecycle. Since Sony are well known for supporting their consoles across generational gaps I see no reasoning why this wouldn't hold true for the PS4 as well.
All of Sony's first party studios shifted to PS4 development by the start of 2013, just over 6 years after the launch of the PS3. http://www.ign.com/articles...
@Death but nowhere in that article did it say Sony stopped supporting the PS3!?
@death "All of Sony's first party studios shifted to PS4 development by the start of 2013" You have exactly what it takes to be a great gaming journalist. That comment is the definition of twisting facts, manipulating information and painting a false picture. They never said they "shifted" to ps4 development, they said all studios are working on ps4 games. We all know that almost all sony studios have multiple dev teams that some times work on multiple games simultaneously. Real nice misrepresentation of the facts to push your own false narrative. You'll make a fine journalist some day.
How about emulate ps2 oh wait that cpu tho
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