SegmentNext - Xbox One backward compatibility is a big plus, Sony doesn't have any plans for it and PS Now is the next best thing they have, will it be good enough?
Just going by all the comments about being always connected to the internet on other articles about the cloud, I'd say the biggest con to PSnow is the always online requirement. To say nothing about the cost of the subscription. I think free is always better, and the BC catalog will just get bigger. I moved my 360 to my Moms house 2000 miles away, now I just move disc when I go visit and don't have to drag a console with me. I can play my favourite 360 games in either location now.
All Sony has to do is stop being greedy and make PS now free then they basically have a better service than BC because with PS now you wouldn't need a disc for BC Just seems to me Sony are more greedy this gen.. From not only charging to play online but now increasing that price to the ridiculous prices for PS now. They haven't had a price drop whilst Microsoft have had two Just to try to compete so Sony are making tons off of ps4 sales as it is then the money from added subscriptions.. Sony need to do some fan service and make PS now free for all PS+ members.
Thanks for the reply, but the big problem, according to hundreds of recent posts, is the "always online" requirement. If you have any doubt just visit a cloud compute article and check the comments from PS owners. Personally this wouldn't bother me as I'm always connected. BTW, the new SKU without Kinect is not a price drop, it's a new SKU, the original SKU with Kinect is still there...like a loaded version of a car, if a bare bones addition comes out it's not a price drop, it's been de-contented, the loaded version is still there.
@foe If Xbox one with Kinect was selling ms wouldn't have released a version without it... (remember the Xbox cannot work without Kinect) was the line We was told... Anyhow you want to look at it the kinectless sku was a lower price to try to entice more consumers... Price dropped bro but I see the political route you took :) As for internet connection and all the comments.. Bro you get extreme PS fanboys as much as you get extreme Xbox fanboys... You Just need to clear the shit to see the peanuts As of right now I applaud ms for the fan service.. Gears is testament to that.. Ive never played a gears game and Im getting all three for 30pounds..
Free lol? Sony doesn't own even a quarter of the games on PS Now so they don't even have the choice to allow that.
Even if ps now was free, you still have to deal with the fact that you are streaming video over the Internet... It's bandwidth intensive, lag inducing, and requires you to be online to play your games... The idea that psnow would ever be free is ridiculous. It costs money to provide the service... And they aren't going to give access to all those games for nothing... Also, you don't HAVE to have the disc for BC to work on xb1. If you own 360 titles digitally, they automatically show up in your library and you can play them anywhere.
Native > Streaming
If PS4 could read the disc code and then stream the games that would be awesome.
The fact that Sony is essentially putting restrictive BC behind a pay wall means that PSNow will never be able to compete with Xbox One's BC. PSNow is a good idea, but should be reserved for much older games such as PS2 and PS1 era, or new games. Honestly most companies seem to underrate the value in BC and MS was initially one of those companies, but they decided to turn that opinion around and listen to what their userbase was asking for and they should be commended for it. I have always been of the opinion that PSNow is just insulting as a BC option, a rip off as any other option. The only value PSNow has is to casual gamers who don't mind using their tv as a streaming device. But honestly, how likely are those people to even use PSNow. If Sony has one major failing it's that they run with their ideas even when they haven't done enough research to test their viability, leading to situations like PSPGo, Vita, and PSNow. They are too interested in being first to do something and it causes them problems.
"Can PlayStation Now Compete With Xbox One Backward Compatibility?" Of course it can, but fanboys will say otherwise, well, cuz, they're fanboys. With PS Now you have access to more games/a larger library of games and can use it on alot more devices but you gotta put up with lag, video artifacting and what some consider a "high" price. With X1's BC, you dont have to worry about the internet lag or video artifacting but you get less games (thus far) and could end up with emulator issues, like bugs and worst performance on some games. Could care less about either, sorry, but if i had to pick, i rather have local bc.
can anyone explain why playstation now isn't available on your web browser? it's built in tv's but why isn't it accessible on a laptop or home computer? that is what sony needs to do, get playstation now on everything much like netflix and stop pandering around with the lack of ps1, ps2 and ps4 game support.
Wow, I am not a sony fan. But come on really? Sony is not being greedy, they are part of a company that is loosing money in other divisions. So they NEED profits in the gaming division to even things out a bit. They are a company about profits, making profits so the investors dont bail out and the company fails. Profits are the only reason almost any company is around. Its always been about profits, not the gamers. Yes they do there best to please the gamers. But only because that is how you sell a product.
@suckingeggs: "All Sony has to do is stop being greedy and make PS now free then they basically have a better service than BC because with PS now you wouldn't need a disc for BC" So MS would just allow all games for free with BC, and they would be instantly better and no disc needed too. But offering games for free isn't business, is it? One of the laughable issues with PS now is the fact that they don't have enough slots sometimes, so you have to "wait". lol! "Just seems to me Sony are more greedy this gen.. From not only charging to play online but now increasing that price to the ridiculous prices for PS now." Sony charged for online play and hid it behind free version of DriveClub that turned into a stale game, and then they chopped it up.... "Sony need to do some fan service and make PS now free for all PS+ members." I don't think Sony will start now, considering they still haven't allowed EA Access.
PlaystationNow was created with a broader goal in mind; Access to Playstation games across various connected devices. PlaystationNow and BC are not a good comparison in my opinion. However, if I was given a choice to pick between the two, I would choose BC.
First of all Playstation Now is not the PS4 version of backwards compatibility. PS Now is a service that's available for several devices INCLUDING THE PS3! And here's more: https://www.playstation.com... "Can PS Now be seen as a backwards compatibility feature on PS4?" 'No. PS Now is a stand-alone service offering the ability to seamlessly stream PS3 games on a variety of enabled devices'
ONE of the features IS backwards compatibility though, not sure what you are trying to point out here?
I get it, but are you saying that PS4 doesn't offer BC at all then? That seems off to me.
THERE IS NO DEBATE XBBC>>>>>>& amp; gt;>PSNOW even despite being a single feature and the other an entire freaken service
No, just no. " I'd say the biggest con to PSnow is the always online requirement" That is like saying the biggest con about multiplayer is you need to have internet. Its a streaming service, its nothing else, its not as if streaming is an option lol, its the whole service, I would say a con would be the price, but I'm not really sure how comparable it is to other services like Gamefly in terms of pricing or anything. Also...this article is a troll article, PS Now and BC are NOTHING a like, they are literally not the same thing, in any way shape or form. PS Now is nothing like BC, PS Now is a service on PS devices, not just PS4 that lets you stream older games for a price. Doesn't matter if you own the game, doesn't matter you own it on disk, download etc, thats not the point of the service even slightly. BC by default is better, its letting you play your older games regardless of how you got them FOR FREE. No connection required. How they can be compared is beyond me, its stretching it and I've noticed many keep trying compare them when they are meant to be 2 very different things. A better article would actually be BC on XONE vs BC on Wii U or PS Now vs Gamefly. ..I mean at least the person writing this article needs to get that they are not the same services and are for 2 different reasons. The reason for PS Now has nothing to do with providing BC...its a service, at a charge, on pretty much all PS platforms, doesn't matter if you own the game, its not the point of the service. Some of this junk needs to get flagged as trolling as its over reaching and seems to only want to get flamebait clicks. Can free BC, compare to a charged, streaming retail service? Where is your article on BC vs Onlive? Where is your article on BC vs Gamefly? lol
"That is like saying the biggest con about multiplayer is you need to have internet." Exactly, and ED, that is exactly my point. Check the hundreds of comments in the cloud articles, ppl saying..."i'm punished for not being online" Guess what, it's multiplayer; YOU ARE ONLINE. it's a bonus to get the destruction. Don't believe me, check out any of the articles. As long as ppl are flocking to those articles and saying that...then the always online requirement is a BIG problem.
@Foehammer- I agree with that too. Cloud being online can't be some huge downplay as...I mean the feature is for its online portion. I agree.
They can't be directly compared as BC on Xbox One is simply that, a way to play your older 360 games on your XB1. PS Now does give current Playstation owners a chance to play some PS3 games (good for new PS4 gamers), but it also gives people with no consoles a chance to play these PS3 games directly through their TV's. One is more or less a feature (BC) and the other is a service (PS Now), hence the costs associated with it. That being said I applaud MS's efforts to get BC up and running on the Xbox One.
I agree and PSNow is more to play games you actually dont already have
there is no competition here. No pros for PSnow except being able to play more remotely.
And on more than just a console. Oh, and way more games. But you're right. Outside of that, nothing.
NOBODY CARES Wo...calm down there Chaos...can't go letting N4G about what you think of the trend in articles. *clears throat* SO MUCH EXCITE.
ones a feature and ones a service...yeah compete how..?
Uh...yes. You have to have already owned the game for Xbone's BC. PSNow...drop $20 for a month, and you have access to over 100 titles.
Not at all. They are already giving away free 360 game with the gears remake, fallout, and EA access. Plus you get free games with XBLG every month. Add to that is you can buy some of these games for $5 at almost any game store or get them from a friend for free.
Fact of the matter is, regardless of which side implemented BC first, the other side would play it down. That's just how it goes. I wish it wasn't that way, but here we are. I mean, just look at these comments as an example. I'd rather both consoles have BC. Let's be honest, it is definitely a bigger plus than a negative to have BC. Unfortunately, as I said, people are trying so hard to play it down. Of course if BC had come to the PS4 first, the other side would play it down just the same. *sigh*
PS3 had BC - xbox fans played it down like fcuk, now all of a sudden X1 has BC and xbox fans react like X1 is going to sell 14mil consoles by Xmas.
No, people just didn't like the fact that the hardware it took to give PS3 BC was part of the reason the console was so expensive at launch... Now that it's an added bonus at no extra cost, and it's lead to the creation of some great bundles (Rare Replay, Gears of War Ultimate Edition, Fall Out 3 w/ Fall out 4, and Rainbow 6 bundle), people are seeing a great value proposition... Also, 360 GwG games will all be BC, meaning your games catalog will grow quickly even if you don't own a 360. PS... EA is thinking about throwing BC games into the EA Access vault... Even more bang for your buck, and a chance to play games you missed at no added cost...
And what are the ps fanboys doing now? Playing it down. I stand by my statement.
@barb wire You sir are such a Fanboy because if i can vaguely remember back in 2007 X360 had (Original Xbox Games)BC and arcade at that time. I still own those Org. Xbox games i have played on my X360 like Panzer Dragoon and GTA 3/Vice City Double Pack and others. It's just BC got lost due to all X360 firmware updates(same as we recieve updates with XB1).So how is it that Xbox fans are downplaying BC when Sony just took it away from the PS3 because you guy's didn't use it. That's a choice you guy's made... just like now with PSNow you either Pay 2 Play or you don't the choice is yours.
The icing on the cake is any game free with games with gold for the 360 will be playable on the X1 via this wonderful feature.
Free > Not Free.
True but you do have to buy the 360 games to play them... So not free = not free
You can borrow from a friend, complete said game and return to friend = free
I have about 60 ps3 games and about 150 Xbox 360 games on disc. So for me at least... Free > Not free. Also... Pre owned last Gen games can be bought for pennies now. So still even with that in mind, x1 BC is still more affordable than the other service I have no interest in. I still have my fatboy connected to my tv for classic PS gaming. Soon I will be able to pack up my halo reach 360 and just use my X1. Happy Days. Edit: And... What mhunterjr below just posted.
You can borrow games, or play games you already own, or get GWG, or games bundled with new releases...
@2cents Where the heck did you got 150 free xbox 360 games?
Not free. All the games I bought over the last generation that I still have in my collection. I am a hardcore collector. It's my only vice... Promise!
@2cents Exactly, so BC is not "free". You paid for those games at 1 point or another..
Not the first time round, no. But for Xbox one... Yes, free! Free Free Free! That is the whole debate, 'Backward Compatible' My hardware is able to play my existing games collection from the previous generation. My playstation 4 will NOT play my PS3 games, so I will have to pay to play my games that I own already. So again for me its.. Free > Not free. For newcomers it would still be cheaper with BC as I already said, old games are very cheap and they are yours to play till the service runs. So here is a new one for your unrelenting argument that I already agree to. Cheaper Ownership > Expensive Rental Bubs out... Have fun.
Agreed. Many are not factoring that this is based on needing to actually own those games. So its not really free vs not free, as much as its not free vs games you already paid for and need to pay for to obtain and use on XONE. This no different then, buying used dvds vs rental. They are not the same thing, some rent, some buy, but by no means is a console or set top box supporting DVD means free vs not free against a rental service. I mean...do you not have to buy the content for the device? Its simply rental vs ownership. Some do, some don't but I"m not sure what BC actually has to do with PS Now as suppose to just seeking flamebait clicks.
That is a weak attack on 2cents as on PS4, if you already own the games, you sill have to pay again to play them on PSnow. That is what he is referring to. The service is free, and if you happen to own or acquire the games at no cost (free), you get to play them on X1 for FREE.
I think eventually, Sony will make PsNow free to ps+ members. Maybe not free, more like buy and keep, instead of rent. Hopefully free.
PS Now and BC are not even close to the same thing, which is why this comparison is just plain dumb.I would rather have BC but PS Now is amazing in its own way in the sense that for the price of it you get over 100 games you can play instantly and then shut it down whenever you want, where with BC you need the disc for each game... Just like you should never expect Netflix to be free.. Don't expect PS Now to be free.
That is not an advantage. BC also has over 100 games to choose from and you can choose, to buy or not to buy. You can choose to buy what you want if you don't already own it and you don't even need to buy them from M$. This is just a waste of time trying to show value as a plus for PSNOW. Not to mention that you have to be online to play the games you rent. If the network is down so are you. Thought ALWAYS ONLINE was hated by PS fans... oh yah, Sony is the one selling it so its "Super Duper!".
Buy and keep is ok with me. renting is like throwing money away.
That's what I'm hoping for too!
I honestly think the great work MS is doing with their BC, will force Sony into a position where they have to open up PSnow for free. But, if the rumors are to be believed any digital game you previously owned may be accessible for free through the service, and I think that alone can help PS now stay on PAR with Xbox BC
Ps Now can be free. Publishers what there cut. I just want to add this. Since that awful E3 Microsoft had for the X1 launch things have changed in a huge way. There was a time when Microsoft and there fans where laughing stocks on this current gen. Now they have put the kings crow back on, I mean there has been nothing but canons being launched out of this camp the last year. The smartest engineers in the world are speaking and showing/proving. I'm also hearing Sony can do this cloudengin stuff, how is that possible when your Commander & Chief doesn't have an understanding of what's even going on " http://www.videogamer.com/n... That slogan Sony has " Greatness Awaits" LOL. If you play visuals then I guess the ps4 is for you but it seems that is all they have. W10/X1 fans the best is yet to come, how does it feel to be patient? 50% more powerful try 20 TIMES more powerful the other way around.
@Blackout- "Ps Now can be free" It can...but why should it? It was made to he a charged service. Thats like saying all MS games should be free. I mean..because you want it or because some real logical reason states it should be free? lol @PSIN- " will force Sony into a position where they have to open up PSnow for free" Why? BC is not a streaming service, its not a retail service. Its a feature that give you BC, PS Now was never made for that actual reason. You can't put your games in and its BC, you can't download a game and it works on your PS4 as BC, that not actually why it was made for. Its a streaming rental service vs a feature for BC. Sony made PS Now to make money, I'm not sure why they would NEED to make it free,that just makes zero sense. Who is not buying a PS4 because PS Now is a charged service? What are they really losing by continuing to charge for it? Folks are not buying PS4's to play PS3 games... The fastest selling console of all time is the one with zero BC right now... I mean...if we really want to state, why one should make it for free, actually have a real logical reason for it. Business is not about just 1 upping your foes lol, its about making money and I don't see making a paid service for FREE making them any money. I don't use PS Now right now, I still likely wouldn't for free.
No, it cant. but was it ever supposed to? my understanding is that this service transcends any particular platform. Backcompat offers benefits to loyal customers that a payed service simply cant match.
the only pros for ps now is that you don't need a PlayStation device to play. Maybe that's what Sony is aiming at?
you dont need the playstation devices or games. just the subscription. the comparison isn't right since one is a feature and the other a service.
You do need Sony devices right now. But you can stream BC and X1 games to any device running Win10. So that is still a Plus for PSNOW, but only for people who don't own a PS3. Might be cheaper to just but a PS3 at the rates Sony is charging.
Any word on how PSNow is doing so far?
Not sure, I know it was doing better than Sony thought it would.. I would have it on and off if my connection was good enough. I mean for that price for 3 months you open up a huge library of games that you can play instantly? why not?
Xbox One B/C is obviously better value/accessibility....you just can't beat 'Free'. I can't see myself paying for PS Now, even if I didn't still have a PS3. I still have a 360, and like PS3, I'll never sell it, so I wouldn't use B/C on the Xbox One. I'd rather play using the 360 controller and the original copy/version of the game. I have a very spacial gaming area set up, so I don't care about the inconvenience of having 4 systems hooked up when I pick up X1 on Black Friday.
Except its not free though is it? You've already paid for the game and would have to pay if you want to play something you didnt have before. I prefer the PSNow because if there is that one game i missed and cant do w/out, or i just need a little quick fix to fill the time, i can rent a game from PSNow for the same price it would take me just to drive to my local Bestbuy which would have an abysmal selection of games compared to PSNow and might not even have what i wanted to play. Otherwise i generally stay away from last gen games because there are just too many current gen games to pick from.
Xbox1 owner here, so there are Options, i don't think Sony will move their Cards because they are doing Great with PS4 sales. so at the end, why do we want ps4 and x1 be the same, they both have to offer different things to different people, without forgetting the #1 priority, More fun to Gamers (and to sale :P)... Enjoy
The point of PS Now is to enter the games streaming market. It's not really focused on BC. There's nothing stopping it from having PS4 games, or even games beyond the PS4's capabilities
Look I said it once and I'll say it again, PS Now has access to over 400 games now. Not everyone even has that many games so b/c is not a plus for everyone. I mean people act like they are getting free games, no your just allowed to play with the games you happen to own. I want new experiences so what's the point if all these people concentrate on old games and don't support future games...lets move on.
How many times are we going to go over this?its starting to become duplicate territory. Can you play your 360 games on your phone? Can you play your 360 games on your tablet? Can you play your 360 games on a compatible TV without a game system in front of you? Can you play 360 games on a portable game system? If you answered NO to any of these,then why do we keep comparing the two?we know ps3 and ps4 chipsets aren't the same.and you can use psnow even on the ps3 when it plays ps3 games.and when people say Sony should let you play games you currently own for free,then Netflix,HBO,hulu,music industry,amazon prime,etc should give you all that content for free because you already own it.stop being stupid and entitled. How come retarded journalists don't do their research?they're not competing.
I don't think subscriptions is a bad thing by any means. For those who don't collect games and want to try some things it's a great option. However, if you are a gamer that collects games it's nice to know you can continue to play your games on the newer system and offline. Or outright buy these older last gen games on the digital market to play on your newer console. You can even get the physical disc cheaper online and pay even less than digital most times. Plus they are going to continue to give 360 games away with games with gold. So that is free or included. Also technically with a xbox one you will be able to play any games on xbox one to any Windows 10 device. Phone, tablet, dektop etc. Both have advantages but most people don't want to worry about additional subscriptions if they already own a physical copy or previously bought digital versions. It's nice to know they are included. It would be nice if PS4 did something similar. I don't need to play games on my phone and tablet.
When win 10 hits most of that list will be yes and for free.
That doesn't even make any sense. Its like comparing apples to oranges. PS Now isn't comparable to backwards compatibility. PS Now is a cloud-based games-streaming service available not only on PS4/PS3 but on Vita and eventually iPad. PS Now isn't supposed to be way to play your old collection of games, its supposed to be a way to introduce NEW gamers to classic Playstation games via game streaming. The ultimate goal is to launch on iPad which will be a huge milestone for the service if and when it happens. XBO backwards compat is great but its limited right now to select games and is specific to the console, PS Now lets you play older Playstation games on any device, at least that's their ultimate goal. Eventually they'd even be able to put PS4 games on PS Now.