CraveOnline: "The Taken King is a great deal for new Destiny players, but is a slap in the face of day one buyers of the game."
This game is been the biggest scam since this generation began and it'll probablystay that way. they insulted their fanbase, they belittle them, they scam them, they lie to them, they psycologically trick them, please avoid this game.
tell that to addicted people, ha
yep, i know it, but DeCrack is an awful drug. lol
I have so many people on my friends list that I met through destiny. 95% don't even play it anymore. Me included
I was addicted to the game. As soon as I found out I had to pay $40 for the next DLC I took it to Gamestop and got Witcher 3.
how good and easy to get into is the game to newbies that never played it? i'm thinking of picking up the legendary edition.
Destiny addict here. Don't buy it. If you like it, you'll be addicted to it, but in an unsatisfying way, not addicted because it's so good. If you don't like it, then you'll have ended up wasting your money, maybe. Depending on what the taken king adds, I'd wager to bet that the taken king, plus all the expansions, is just enough content to make the asking price acceptable.
Well I got my moneys worth since I have played for more than 400 hours. I enjoy the raids, trials, and prison. So I do not agree that the game is a "scam" as you put it. However, I do think that the DLC is too pricey, specially for veterans.
But how much of that time is spent repeating the same thing? That's my huge problem with destiny!
@Immorals: That's pretty much ANY online-type game.
@Immorals No the difference is you aren't playing a scripted event against a CPU. Online games you play against other human beings. Which means the games are drastically different from one game to the next. Maybe some people blow up the Shanghai tower in the first couple of minutes or maybe you have a 10 minute continous firefight between the teams on the roof of it. Maybe you have someone who can fly the hell out of a helicopter, and is continually dropping people on the points, then other times you have people who are great with the anti-air who lay waste to them and prevent that. So on and so forth thousands if not more different ways. Human beings, especially millions of different ones with different skills, deficiencies, and tendencies create a far different experience, one that varies greatly. To compare co-op against the same few raids and enemies over and over and over again is completely wrong. The only thing of Destiny that does play different is the Crucible, and while it's decent, it's in no way epic or anywhere close to that. It's very limited, and pales in comparison to their previous franchise.
That is interesting. I see Destiny as a "labyrinth" game. It is a good game. You cannot argue with the mechanics and quality of the environments, etc. But, just like a labyrinth you seem to wander it forever and never really get out. It is massively repetitive, the loot drops can be unfair, and all they seem to want you to do is keep playing the same game, over and over again. It is like a book that keeps adding pages as you read it. You keep going on hoping you are at a definitive end, then bam! There's 250 more pages to read. I am not really against Destiny, but gamers always whine that they want to see new games, and Destiny is the alter-ego to that idea. They want you to play the same game forever! And charge you obscene prices for DLC and expansions! Sure if you measure cost solely on time, there is value there, but I measure my satisfaction of my gaming purchases based on story, gameplay, environment, sound, quality, and finally time.
I agree with you, but the problem is flamebait articles will draw all the negative, trolly comments. Look at the first one.
Is the full game need to get this? Because the way they advertise it, they make it look like a stand alone from the game/price too.
The full version is $60 but comes with everything that has been released up until this point. The $40 is for people that already own it.
All part of the plan when you are Activision and Bungie. Gamers voted with their wallets and some regretted it, others have thoroughly enjoyed their experiences. Game on!
I did bought the season pass (DLC 1 and 2) and regretted, not that I haven't enjoyed the game just I never have bought the dlc 2 if it wasn't for the season pass I got earlier -.-' Now I'm voting with my wallet and going to spend my money else where.
I like it. I'll pay for things I like. Bungie didn't stick a gun up to my head for every hour I played. If you don't like it, you don't have to pay for it. Don't go around acting like it's some trick, though. Make a fun thing, people will enjoy fun thing.
I returned it last year, re-bought it back with game + DLC for reall cheap back in like May and played again. It's still a really fun game with amazing controls, and decent amount of stuff to do. I just can't play it like I used to. I enjoy the multiplayer so I like jumping on every 2-3 months for a week or so to play. Then I play other games for a few months and come back to it. * It keeps Destiny feeling fresh and since I'm not reliant upon it to be that one game I need to play, whatever I don't like about it slightly bothers me less than it may other people. * If I'm not feeling it, I just play another game, but if I am, I could play a good amount in a given week and enjoy myself every time. * I'll be waiting until all the updates are bundled for really cheap or something. Once I can get this Taken King for $20 or less I'll buy into it again. I REFUSE to pay full price anymore for this game, but it doesn't mean the game sucks. IT's a very well made game.
got all the expansions from my limited edition. Stopped playing it before release of first expansion. Don't plan to come back...it was my most anticipated game. Long live ESO!
don't forget the extra 20$ if you want the extras like the shades when you buy the game with the taking king.....LOL this is a joke!
Well, if they're wrong, it won't sell well. If they're right, it will. That's kind of every market though. Most consumer products are priced according to how much the maker thinks they can get. I don't play Destiny so I might be missing something here, but I don't see the problem. If it's too expensive, they'll get that message when very few people buy it. And then the price will presumably drop.
This so much. Games sell at the price they sell BECAUSE they sell. If you're not willing n/or able to buy a certain game thenyou're NOT part of their market.
This is the frustrating thing.. the economics of it all are really simple. Sadly a lot of gamers really think they have not choice but to buy or it makes not difference. When a game does not sell well on launch, just look at how quickly they are able to drop the price on it. And with games like Cod look at how long they hold their value. I stopped playing Destiny about 3 or 4 months after release. Not bought ANY of the DLC, Season pass etc for it and never will. Refuse to support such crap and if everyone followed, you bet your arse they would be dropping the price of that dlc like a rock! However they know how fickle gamers are and when it comes to it most cannot help themselves
No. No, I wont. Already bought season passes along with the digital deluxe edition for me AND the physical special edition for my girlfriend at launch. We. Are. DONE!
Exactly I brought on original release with season pass an now they want me to purches more dlc, biggest scam goin this game.
Then they'll want you to buy the next game, all it's DLC like this one, and continue it for another 8 or so years. I really wonder how long they can keep people grinding. At least they are going to change some of that, which is important, when their goal is to keep you playing for the next 8 or so years. Of course some people will be pissed off at that, and some people WILL LEAVE because of it. Not a ton, but some will. We see what's happening to WoW. People just keep getting sick of it and sick of it. But WoW is the outlier, most other MMO's go free to play rather quickly or disappear altogether. The question is, how long can Bungie keep this up. It's a bit different then having a monthly subscription. They are asking people for bigger chunks 40 here 60 there, and so it'll be interesting to see if it peters out in year 4 or 5. It'll also be interesting to see how many carry over for this and Destiny 2. Those will be interesting to watch. But they still are being idiots and holding back things people want...like matchmaking. They've already lost probably hundreds of thousands of players because of this. Simply put, a good portion doesn't want to go to a 3rd party website and go through some hassle, and many DON'T even KNOW about it. People also hate being forced. It simply makes no sense to offer it early, then take it away. So yes, Bungie better realize that wanting to charge big bucks for a 10 years journey but making people jump through artificial and arbitrary hoops is two different goals that conflict with each other. If you want to sell this universe for 10 years and all the high priced expansions, you better make it accessible, and that's where they've ultimately failed at. Maybe they'll get the clue, but only after they realize far too late for millions of people who tried it and left never to return because Bungie's idiotic decisions forced them out. Better decisions early on could of netted them billions more, but their idiotic decisions lowered that profit bar long term. Still might be quite profitable, but not nearly as much as it could of been. That's on them, and it was EASILY avoidable.
Lol no one was holding a gun to your head to get the pass. Which by the way is a SEASON pass. People think that's good for the lifetime of the title but it's not, we're going into year two of a game that's purported to have a ten year life cycle. You have no one to blame but yourself.
@antz True, however, the amount of hype/promises that they generated, plus the fact that it was the creator of Halo (I love Halo), we were expecting a WHOLE lot more than we got. Needless to say, I've learned my lesson with this one. A lesson that will last for the rest of my gaming career. Now I usually wait for GOTY editions and don't really pre-order anymore, except for Nintendo games.
In a market in which sofwarehouses sell portings from onldgen in HD at almost full price, they'll have a good chance to sell well.
Destiny reminds me of the car you buy that turns out to be a lemon. You keep sinking money in hoping it will get better, faster, louder, but in the end, you could have saved the money you spent on the lemon and purchased a nicer unit.
except its not a lemon but more like an blood orange
im not buying it. i was already burned by getting the disappointing season pass, which i also thought was too expensive for 2 add ons. $40 for a single add on? not a chance im going anywhere near that.
Destiny is like a Blonde. Pretty, Shallow, and Expensive. Boycott Destiny 2 and boycott Bungie!!!
I agree with you.
Now, why not manipulate the manipulative? Wait a year, buy the "year two edition" for most likely 60 or less than all DLC combined, play through vanilla destiny that now has context, story and lore (the game it should have been), and save money.
Bungie? More like Activision, this smells of their doing. Screw Bungie for not stopping it, but they are the Vader to the Emperor that is Activision.
Much prefer this method than monthly fees. No good way to monetize something, but I don't hate this method.
I bought the digital deluxe edition and actually quit playing before the first 2 expansions were released. But charging for this, $40 nonetheless, especially for those that already bought the season pass and vanilla, is ludicrous. My prediction: after Christmas there'll be an "upgrade" option for $20 or so for existing players. There's so much good stuff coming out this year that I hope they get burnt by attempting to price skim. 90% of my friends have moved on from destiny anyways. I was an early believer myself, but felt the indigestion after taking that big slug of bungie kool-aide
There will undoubtedly be a cheap upgrade shortly after it fails
I can't even bring myself to say that this is the same developer that brought us Marathon, Myth, and Halo. Used to be my favorite developer and now they sold out for the almighty dollar. What happened to the community-centric Bungie I used to know and love?
In their defense, they are still very active in the community, and many of the changes in the game are the result of pressure from the community. Checkout bungie.net if you do not believe me. Perhaps their DLC is too expensive, but this does not make Bungie a bad developer.
Do they host events where you can literally play with members of Bungie to earn a specific armor that was exclusive to them? Do they show love for a competitive and casual community? Do they use fan made maps in the multiplayer rotation? Do they host annual community events each weekend? Hell even when Myth II lauched it caused people's computers to crash and in turn they took a loss and reimbursed over a million people while still independent. That's the Bungie I remember, not this shell that pales in comparison to anything they used to stand for. Halo 3 was developed by 90 people and Destiny with 500 people. We all know which is the better game too. /end rant.
I used to be in bungie.net. Most of it is blind fanboys defending every single decision they make.
@allsytemgamer I respectfully disagree for example the the community has been very critical about the weapon balance, and bungie has responded with many changes, like nurfing the Soros Regime. They are gonna re-balance the Sworn, the Last Word and others as well, also due to community complaints. they are also gonna change the way players level up, by replacing the light system. these are just examples of bungie listening to the community. Not all developers do that, and that is why Bungie usually stands out.
They are a money grubbing bastards now SMH.
So true, Bungie went from being a top tier developer to being worse than EA/Ubi. I've seen some dirty practices from many developers/publishers in the past but I've never seen such blatant exploitation of their fanbase like what Bungie are doing with Destiny.
Thats nice they can hold on to it till a nice drop take place .
Not this kid. I won't even think about buying it. I'll guardedly wait for the next one with hopes of them delivering a proper game that is truly worthy of my money.
Bungie is gangsta. Oh you hate the grind. we'll make it easier for a low price 40 dollars!!! 75 percent of the main game.
I'm sorry this game has been the biggest disappointment for me this gen,with it's lack of innovation,overpriced DLC,unbalanced multiplayer and reppetivenes it has become absolutely almost painful to play.I will,most likely not be getting the taken king unless i get it less expensive than it is.
The game lacks content. Adding 3 strikes to the existing 9 or 10 is not going to help that.
I ain't buying this crap... Not again... I quit back in December the first time and I quit again after a month of returning to play House of Wolves.. I am absolutely done with this tragedy of a game... it's a cash cow that doesn't reward it's fans in the slightest of ways... everything is accomplished by cheesers and/or cheaters... I mean people don't even do PoE or Raids the legit way.. everyone has to cheese some part of the game... shit people even cheese the low-level strikes... games aren't supposed to be played like that.. and TKK is supposed to add content... not make all the gear and weapons you have irrelevant. and to top it off... I've been waiting over 4 months for my freaking NEPAL RELIEF T-Shirt... a T-SHIRT!!!!! they can't even deliver those in a timely fashion...
Haters will always hate. 1500 fun hours I've put in destiny. Thank you bungie, while these idiots try to say you're expensive but they have to keep buying 60.00 game after 60.00 game trying to be entertained. We destiny players only need one.
You played a below-average campaign on repeat for 1500 hours just to spin the loot wheel, and now all that hard earned loot is irrelevant, and you are defending the developers? You should get some help for your addiction.
Lol, how many games are good enough to keep you playing over and over again for 1500 hours? ......yeah, I thought so. Addiction? Guess you can call it that, not hard to put that amount of hours in over the course of a year when it's the only game you play since release. Sorry you don't have a game to entertain you like that!
@objdadon How many of those hours are spent running through the same content over and over. An hour or longer per raid. An hour doing all weekly's with 3 characters. An hour doing all nightfall's with 3 characters. 3 hours doing most bounties for the day to level stuff with 3 character. 3 hours to do all Iron Banner bounties each day with 3 characters. That time adds up simply because it's a time consuming game to begin with, not just countless hours of pure fun. Then you still have daily's, normal Crucible, Trails, POE, and time you spend just floating around in space waiting to join groups, or doing something else and simply leaving your console on. There's a lot to do in Destiny, but it's the same rinse and repeat content over and over and over again week after week, month after month, that's the problem. Those who have been with this game have already paid $100 for the game and DLC, and now we have another $40 to put into this game. That's the problem with it, the Day 1 fans who have been playing and supporting this game are the ones having their wallet pillaged with overpriced DLC each season, that should at most be half the asking price. Once again our current legendary weapons and armors will basically be useless, unless they keep all weapons in the Taken King at the 365 damage mark and armor boost at around 400 (which is highly unlikely considering 40 is the new level cap). Destiny is a perfect example of 1 step forward, 2 steps back, and I as well as many others are done with this cow being milked. You can continue to enjoy the game, but no one on here is a hater for justifiably being fed up with this BS from Bungie. If Bungie wanted to make an MMO shooter, then they need the content built into the world, not just multiple game modes featuring the same content over and over again. As a game Destiny is solid, it's all the other areas and that insanely priced DLC that ruin what should have been one of the best games of this generation.
What should any of that matter if he enjoyed himself for 1500 hours? Who are you to judge that? Good for him for speaking out, man this is a bitter thread.
ooh ooh I know what this is.Its Brainwashing!
you act like you're the only one that has put hours and hours into Destiny... the majority of us... aren't talking out of our asses.. we've played the game and wised up... the same old shit over and over and over and over doesn't cut it anymore..
I for one will continue to play destiny until I don't like it anymore and even then I won't jump on every forum complaining about a game I don't play. If you enjoy game play it and if not move on but stop getting mad that everyone doesn't think the same way as you.
I...don't understand you. 1500 hours? By the way. Pointing out facts isn't idiocy, it's intelligence. Your enjoyment, while by all means acceptable, is the signs of an idiot, if and when you use that duration of time to state your opinion on how everyone else thinks. Hur dur I played 1500 hours, so that means the rest of the world is stupid because this game is super sweet and I milked it. Yes, yes you did milk it (and good for you, for somehow getting to that peak of this money grabbing mountain.) However, most people do not have the time, nor in any way could possibly see how Destiny offers a resettable reason to play for that long. You managed, congrats, but I do not understand you.
People play candy crush too for 1500 hours. Which is fine. But this isn’t a $5 app, it’s supposed to be a huge epic game. Anyone who has looked into another MMO can see how insulting this amount of content is. That’s the frustrating part - I would like to play Destiny but they are going to take 3 years to release it because they are getting paid by the addicts for the diluted content.
This games existence showcases everything that is wrong with both the gaming industry and the community that supports its awful practices. I feel no sympathy for those who will willingly continue to support this and then complain down the road. It's been long enough for you to make a decision. You got ripped off? You feel cheated? SMARTEN UP. I'm happy if you enjoy it, but your enjoyment is treading a dangerous territory where a full experience is broken into pieces. The problem? It's how much this game is making. We saw how the success of Cod shaped other FPS and it wasn't for the better. If Destiny continues to dominate your wallets, rest assured other games are going to give you an empty world with pretty graphics with ridiculous gaming mechanics, all in the name of addiction. It's not art. It's blatant disrespect and poor practice. It's maximizing profits over less work. It's giving less and asking for 3x more. Destiny could have been DESTINY. Remember that.
I used to respect bungie. Now I hate them
I don't get people arguing that it's too expensive.... Destiny came out 1 year ago and was $60.... This is Destiny 1.5 and has more overall content then that game.....and its $20 cheaper...... So how is it overpriced? 1100 hours into Destiny year 1. Here's to another 1100 in year 2. Great dollar per hour IMO.
You should probably read the article before you comment. It states that the Destiny Legendary Edition (the $60 one) is great value for newcomers, but that for day one players who are being asked to pay $40, it's too expensive.
Nah, 60.00 every month for every other game that comes out is too expensive, I'll stick to saving money while being entertained by destiny!
But it's not to expensive. I've played vanilla Destiny for 1100 hours and have had tons of great experienced and memories. People joining in now may get the legendary for $60 but they won't have my experiences. Worth every penny.
I'll be right there with you.