VG247: 2K Boston's Ken Levine has refused to comment on why a PS3 version of BioShock wasn't released last year, saying the decision to stagger the 360 and PS3 versions was taken entirely by 2K.
I'm sure MS backed a dumptruck full of money to their office and they couldn't say no.
Microsoft strikes again with those deep wallets.
The answer to everything is not "M$ paid them" sometimes devs or publishers make decisions based on risk/reward. I believe they gauged the reaction and sales on the 360 then ported it over to the ps3 if it was popular, which is smart.
MS "pays them" so much, it's the logical assumption. I want to find out where the next big 3rd party game is being developed, so I can intercept one of those "dump trucks".
Please oxf, Microsoft opens their wallet for every single situation. Buying 3rd party exclusives? Check Stealing PS3 exclusives? Check Paying articles to write crap about the PS3? Check Microsoft's viral campaign knows no bounds.
If it were true that the decision was from 2K, then how come the PS3 version was kept under wraps??? If they had always planned it, then it would have been better for 2K to say at the time the 360 version came out that there was a PS3 version on the way. The only possible reason for doing this would be to try a push more sales of the 360 by making this look like it was an exclusive.
i'm def. buying this game. but it'll probably be next year around this time. when theirs not much going on. when they plan on releasing this game. it's gonna have some serious competition. i realize this was goty last year, and i'm sure it's a GREAT game. but theres no way i'm gonna buy it over lbp, R2, KZ2, or even socom for that matter. at least i know i'll have an awesome game next year during these dog days of summer. thanks guys.
Its a shame that microsoft has to resort to flinging money bags instead of actual moves that will hold up in the LONG run. Had Ms not pulled off such tactics... would the ps3 be ahead in sales?(im not counting wii) Seems funny how a early release, along with a multitude of BOUGHT games + studios and STILL the MS-ship is slowly treading water now. everyone that was held witness to the whole manufacturing problems, and all the false numbers on many charts have something to think about when the 720 comes along. Microsoft was way to worried this generation to dethrone SONY that it forgot about the wii, now MS is copying ideas from both S and N in order to stay relevant as they quickly lose grip of the ENORMOUS lead they had. It seems that timed exclusives and dlc is the best that ms can do to stay afloat now. this is why "the mart" and "firstknight" dont really come through here anymore....all that trash talking and MS failed them. AGAIN. The sony faithfull stuck by in dire times and now the roles have switched. much like ms on the original xbox, the xbox fans hightail it when the sh1t hits the fan.
well, whatever the reason, i'm looking forward to the game. i like the new content i've seen; but, what i'm hoping for is a "bioshock room" in home which will allow us to walk around rapture and see everything.(just like ND and insomniac are doing) that would be real cool.
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PS3 wins again. Hahaha
Smart move by Microsoft, people here are just always upset with them because Sony doesn't do the same for their console. Whereas if Sony did, and Microsoft didnt - no one here would be talking about it
Interesting comment from someone who's been around N4G since last year. When the "you know who's" had the run of the place. (off topic): I shouldn't have to wait so long for an update with such minor additions!
"the you know whos" were like 3 people with multiple accounts.
But what the heck are the "you-know-whos"? Someone can PM about this if you want; this sounds uber-interesting.
Buckethead its nothing that exciting. The you-know-who's are the hardcore 360 fans. Last year there were far more of them and they ran this site. There were lots of anti PS3 news articles and the likes. Now places have been traded though.
I thought it was some kind of enigmatic, top-secret organization. That's definitely no Organization 13 lol.
well bioshock is coming soon to ps3 so nuff said
And I care about as much as I did back when it was "only on Xbox".
Bioshock is coming soon to a ps3 near me.
So you like playing old stuff from 1.5 years back in time? I like the fresh games more... Or releases at the same time/in the same time frame
i like playing a good game, doesnt matter if its a year old. why should it matter? strange attitude you have... you're telling me you're never going to touch Gears Of War/GTA4/Halo 3/COD4 etc ever again?
they may have made more money if ps3 bioshock was released at the same time as 360. with this release it'll be an "old game" and the competition of other games around it is insane. now, if ms did pay for it that point is "moo."
not true because there are millions of ps3 only owners who wanated to buy bioshock but just didnt wanna buy the other console
Would have made more money back when there was almost no games to compete with. I could see someone passing on it for lbp or R2 or socom The list goes on...
DaTruth, you speak da truth. It would have been a major draw for people on the PS3 who were really looking for good games back then. Its just a shame I had to get a 360 when bioshock came out. I wouldn't haven't gotten it otherwise, as the only other game I got was Mass effect.
"Corporate Decsion" my A$$, more like Corporate Money. Microsoft has very little of a first party at all, and basically they have no choice but to buy 3rd party timed exclusivity because it's almost the only thing that's keeping the Xbox 360 alive.
that maybe the dev team for Bioshock wasn't as familiar with the PS3 hardware yet, didn't have the manpower, didn't have the budget, didn't feel the PS3 install base was quite big enough just yet, felt that some polish on the PS3 UE3 engine was needed, or any other myriad of legitimate business reasons to make the 360 version first?
yeah right. that woudl be plausible if they decided to port it, immediately after the success of bioshock. Strike while the iron is hot. but then wait what, a year or whatever to announce it? Sure ...
when all the devs gave a video confession about the power of ps3 & how they were gonna try harder because they realize they were limiting themselves. they understood ps3 was limitless. they used thier money to create a ps3 game & future exclusives. Now should I believe them? why not? I know if I was a dev I would want to make a game as good as Sony makes them or better. Devs have been working on DVD & memory cards for way too long already. its time to make that leap forward & leave the old gen in the past where it belongs even if its dressed up as a paid social network. the xbox360 has shown its true colors being maxed out & live turning all sweet & cute like. Its over for that fad. Who knew it would kill itself before the wii?! only 1 console owns the hd generation & thats ps3! while your at it 2k, do ya mind making a original title for psn & a original title for the psp please? I got alot of money saved up ever since I cut the xbox out of my life!!! :)
not buying/renting this... They can keep their timed exclusives for themselves.
No matter what happens in gaming corporate America, it seems that people say Microsoft's fleet of dump trucks have something to do with it. When the developer themselves comes out this late in the game and states emphatically that it was entirely 2Ks decision, why not take them at their word? Why would 2K blatantly lie? It's not good business practice to disseminate false information by a publicly traded company.. The SEC and other regulatory agencies tend to get pissed at that sort of behavior. Oh, and to the ranting PS3 fanboys that say "eff this game and 2K, I won't buy it!", get a life. This is a great game -- one of the top 5 this generation. Get over it. STFU and get the game. Don't let blind fanboyism blind you from enjoying a GREAT game.
I played BioShock a bit when it first came out for the 360. It's definitely a solid game. Home integration and trophies will be enough for me to consider adding it to my collection.
i agree with kn and meus. i hope 2k learns a lesson here one lesson: ps3 owners/fanboys do not buy games.....mgs4 2 million units- what a joke if theres over 14 million ps3 owners out there. lesson 2: ps3 fanboys are spiteful that you as a company decided to make it for xbox first so now they are sayin they can keep the game i dont want it now! what a bunch of babies. 2k its not worth the money and effort to bring it to ps3 as itll prolly only sell 200,000 units or something. ps3 fanboys think of it this way if all you say is all that you want are ps3 only games no multiplats or third party games whatever, then you have really nothin to play at the moment and you will recieve about 1 2 maybe 3 games a year so keep pissin on the third parties they may start to piss on you back ps3 will turn into another nintendo
Everything you just said you could turn round and say about 360 fanboys. Just look at all the talk about MGS4 going multi or when Final Fantasy came over to 360. Also when you say PS3 is going the way of nintendo....do you mean the Wii?
First of all MGS4 has sold around 3 million copies in 1 month and a half. The game has sold over 600K in Japan (not including bundles), over 1 million in America (reported by NPD's Anita Frazier including bundles reported for June) and over 1 million in Europe. We will see new updates soon. By December 31, 2008 MGS4 will be over 5 million sold. How? Cause it only takes 10 weeks of 100K software sales worldwide per week to sell 1,000,000 copies of anything. This game will continue excellent sales and boost even more at the holidays. Face it, Metal Gear Solid 4 the best hardcore game released this generation. It's PS3 exclusive. PS3 is just getting started and has so many years to go, even if 360 fans feel "the generation is almost over"...lol EA is reporting making more money off PS3 software sales. PS3 games sell. All the good ones sell very well. Bioshock has sold around 1.6 million on 360 and the rest on PC. This release will sell way more than 200K you said. It probably will outsell the 360 version. Now go and find 360 games that have sold poorly. There are many! :)
Why would MS pay A LOT of money for a new IP that could flop?! You guys think that they just waste money. Do you really think the investors and the board of directors would allow such a thing?
dude they basically have no exclusives. and they are all about paying for timed third party exclusives. so why wouldn't they pay for this. their "investors and the board of directors" think that paying for a timed exclusive on rock band is actually going to make a difference. and mark my words that when rock band does come out on the ps3 we'll get free sh1t that the 360 kids have to pay for. don't be silly.
who cares. us ps3 owners don't mind waiting on quality. i think that's obvious. so the 360 got the version that didn't fit their screen right. and had to pay for dlc. we'll get the version with the better graphix, and all their dlc for free. the 360 boys want their stuff NOW so they get what they get. the ps3 boys don't mind waiting for quality. it all works out in the end. everybody is happy.
When they word it in such a way where they say they would release it later on the ps3 was a corporate decision.. In other words they were planning to release it but they were given kaching from MS to have a timed exclusive. I guess this is how business works... all in all I bought the pc version due to the xbox fanbase hype hahah what a mistake. I paid 29.99 and it was still not worth it. I guess it was not my cup of tea.
Meh, it doesn't matter anymore. What's happened happened. Anybody who still cares about Bioshock and never played it, just happily purchase it for the PS3 then. Sometimes I guess it's easier to just point the finger at MS and say they paid this and that off. But the fact is that the 360 at the time had a much bigger install base than the PS3. The PS3's install base is definitely catching up, and we'll see things happen differently in the near future.
Well, the waiting give us more content so I'm happy with it 4 now =P
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