Female agents are also confirmed.
Man I hope they let us customize our agents .
This^ It was a bummer in that you couldn't customize. I also would like to see the wingsuit. Would be useful for escaping falling buildings.
Man its gonna be so great carving out swords or anything you want out of walls and throwing them as weapons. I am still extremely happy and surprised Microsoft has brought back Crackdown 3 in a massive way. The hype is real.
Yeah or carving stupid shiii like a bow and arrow that doesn't work, and of course we'll see tons of "penis" stuff. lol -nah but seriously I don't think it will be that detailed considering your tool is a machine gun and besides, wouldn't it just break when it falls?
And people are comparing this game to Everquest Next and Red Faction: Guerilla? LMAO. It's not even in the same league.
And Siri. I saw one chap compare it to Siri. Honestly, I'm not kidding.
Someone said it the other day "it has already been done in games like RFG and EverQuest Next"--- where they show one Golem knocking down a single stone house. LoL, the denial and try to proof it's irrelevance is just too much by showing things that aren't even on the same class takes dedication. Every gamer should embrace this as this is the next step in gaming instead of hating it because it is not on their console or brand of choice. When that demo showing the player carving out the shape on that stone wall with the guns, the pieces of debris hit the ground and remains there and the carved shape of the stone fell to the ground with real physics, and immagine that and apply it to an entire city, wow..the possibilities this will have on not only Crackdown but future XB1 games as well. Truly the first next gen feature of this gen.
@Volkama Siri? wut? Lmao :D
The fact that people fear this game and what it might do for gaming, is truly hilarious! Embrace innovation, even if its on someone else's machine!
@Volkama and @Christocolus Ahh yes the Siri comparison from Kingthrash360 http://n4g.com/news/1769832...
Looks slick, a stand out title at Gamescom. I would like to learn more of its SP too.
*In multiplayer Which I don't really care about.
Bring back Don Mattrick! His always-online Xbox would have this destruction in single player! What? Do I have something stuck in my teeth?
Why would you want this kind of destruction in SP anyway ? I'd rather not being stuck on missions because i killed every NPC by blowing up buildings.
I would want this kind of destruction in single player mostly because this kind of destruction is awesome. It wouldn't be a big challenge at all to design around the issue of maintaining some structure amidst the destruction.
It's only on Xbox One so it's not like you were buying it anyway
@OllieBoy, "*In multiplayer, Which I don't really care about." OllieBoy + 772d ago "PS+ is the best subscription service of all time. Go ahead, try and argue" LoL, how can PSN plus be the best subsciption service of all time when most PS gamers like yourself don't like or want mp games and Sony complied with not having many mp mode included with their games while Live Gold members get multiplayer mode like Crackdown where you can destroy the entire city that can't be play anywhere else. Yea, that is the argument and ironically, you just proved it right here.
You went through 2 years of his comments to find something you could use in an argument and them laugh at him like he's the raving fanboy? All he said was he doesn't like multiplayer. I agree with him (big shock I know cos all us PlayStation guys think alike and agree on every subject /s), I would be more excited about this if it were in the single player portion. But that's just me. Now go through my 7 years and 16k of comments to find something you can use in this topic even if I was talking about an unrelated matter.
Bathyj why do you care, its honestly not that hard and although you might agree with him Rookie posting that comment at least suggests somewhat of a contradiction....theres always a chance that he may only like PS+ for the free stuff I guess but if I were a betting man he plays online games also, if I'm wrong then apologies in advance OllieBoy. At any rate I'm all for calling out ps fanboys who come to Xbox threads and the same goes for calling out xbox fanboys going to ps threads just to troll....or perhaps ignoring them will kill them quicker.
@ rookie monster Perhaps he was specific in that he doesn't care about multiplayer for this game, particularly. Perhaps when he was referring to PS plus as a subscription service, it was in regards to the games you get every month, which have nothing to do with multiplayer. Perhaps, in two years, his perspective on gaming has changed. Take your pick as to why the two comments have zero correlation. The concept of a fully destructible environment seems cool, but you should wait until it is played in real world conditions before praising it so much. Concepts don't always work out to be practical. Take MAG for example, a game with over 250 players (something not experienced on Live), great concept but didn't really go as planned.
Well Im all for pointing out hypocrisy, Im just saying cherry picking a 2 year old comment that wasnt said in regards to this subject doesnt really prove that. It seems like a pathetic and desperate way to prove your own point. Its like something a politician would do. Can any person here claim they never said anything ever that doesnt contradict something they said recently? I once said I dont like Pepsi. Now I say that I do. Am I a hypocrite or have my tastes just changed in the last 2 years? And for the record, I only buy PS+ for the free games and discounts.
@Bathyj, Dude, I think you are getting the whole thread and responses confuse. I don't care if he likes mp gaming or not or he is talking about only about PSN plus freebies tbh. I am just putting two and two together and argued against his initial claim and challenge to us by saying "go ahead, try and argue against my claim that PSN is the greatest subscription in HISTORY" a bold claim, which I just did with a proper response that he and many PS gamers don't want mp and MS have more mp games and online tech like what we are seeing from Crackdown to add value to their subscription service and challenged that initial claim. It has nothing to do about him liking Pepsi and changing his taste and whatnot later on. That wasn't the point. Also, this article is about the MP portion of the game and we pretty much know by now the physics cloud processing only works online and if you don't like it or want it, then just don't response with a comment like "*multiplayer, meh" as no doubt in anyone's mind what his intention was with that response; mind you this is the same member that posted in and submitted many anti-MS articles in the past including submitting the contaversial 1/5 review of Halo 4 from Quarters of three. No doubt that was borderline stealth trolling with his response here.
@Bathyj, "Can any person here claim they never said anything ever that doesnt contradict something they said recently? I once said I dont like Pepsi. Now I say that I do. Am I a hypocrite or have my tastes just changed in the last 2 years?" it all depends on whether or not there is a motive behind the comment. if someone doesn't care for multiplayer that is perfectly acceptable but if a person is just trying to discredit the game because it's on xbox one and they only support ps4 then that's a different story is it not? let's not pretend members here try and discredit games based on the platform they reside on. I am not saying this is the case here because i don't want to take the time to look through the users history.
Power of the Cloud... Still dont believe?
The new argument is: "b...but Red Faction Guerillas".
Thanks for keeping people updated. Though some are just slow on the uptake. Really the majority that fought against always on were just sheep. You never hear any whining about any of the always on games that have since been released.
Lol nope I don't.Until MS shows it running on actual X1 hardware.
I hope you and others understand...no tech there using leave it be SLI titans or Fury x`s would be able to replicate the destruction you see in crackdown 3. I mean this is fact. It would stutter and slow to a crawl. Dave Jones showed the demo to ign and gamespot and they both played it off a xbox one. Even if they had it on a pc, no pc that exist would be able to run the destruction like that. I mean witcher 3 is currently the most demanding game with physx on https://www.youtube.com/wat...
Or Until Sony says they can do it, then everyone will believe.
@Mania Why you putting words in my mouth??I would say the same thing to Sony.Unless these companies can show it actually running on the hardware I won't believe crap. You'd think if MS wanted to show and shut up all the haters they would have done this.
The truth is it is not the power of the cloud, it is only used to synchronize the world physics, but it is the xone of every mp player that process it, collaborative power of players xboxes process part of the world and sends to the cloud, every other xbox of players is doing the same, cloud connects it and sends back to all players, you can calculate something on cloud but in the end you need to display those calculations to player, so you really think that if one xone is able to display it, it can't calculate at least part of it? This is the whole point, 4 player mp, 4 xones calculate physics together using cloud connection. (which are dedicated servers)
Sorry to break this to you, but you are completely wrong.
Yup absolutely wrong. Thats not how it works at all.
Dang, if 4 Xbones can do this then an Xbone should be more powerful than the most powerfull gaming PC, let alone the Ps4.
@Volkama prove it then. @Yup prove it then. You can't prove it, and they can tell you everything, so my take on this is equally good. You ARE WRONG, not me, you don't have any clue how it works, i'm a programmer, i know the stuff, there is literally no sense in discussing it, you don't have any proof, any at all, beside you silly answer. @neiT720 Nope, it is a simplistic physics simulation, don't believe that those xboxes doing nothing, they calculate parts of the psychics. NO ONE WILL PAY FOR SOMEONE FOR A CLOUD COMPUTING POWER, those servers don't run for free, if it is truth what they telling, the needed computing power will be tremendous, sorry to brake it to you guys but it isn't possible. Also there are red faction games on PC with TOTAL destruction with no need of cloud servers.
Must be hard being a programmer when you lack any sense of logic. Seems quite a fundamental requirement for the role. Perhaps you'd be better off pursuing something more... creative? Maybe absract gardening, if that's a thing. Or scooba diving. PS I'm not sorry any more. I am quite glad I broke it to you. Your reaction was funny.
This https://33.media.tumblr.com... is totally the same as this http://i.imgur.com/5nzJVbc.... Wise up. "NO ONE WILL PAY FOR SOMEONE FOR A CLOUD COMPUTING POWER ... the needed computing power will be tremendous, sorry to brake it to you guys but it isn't possible." The servers do the calculations once as send the data to all players in the game, they don't calculate for each Xbox seperately. Also there will never be 100% load. You're delusional if you think one game is going to impact the performance of the whole Azure infrastructure. All the technical information is out there, just because you're not well informed doesn't mean it isn't so.
@Volkama I don't see any proof coming from you, just more bla bla, no knowledge and it isn't funny. @IrishSt0ner SO no proof either, your are just lying and delusional i never said it will impact the performance of azure, but it will cost fortune, besides the xones are calculating this, not cloud, it only synchronizes it. And stop posting you silly worst gif about red faction you can find, that is lame and not truth, just use your head there are plenty gameplays that shows TOTAL Destruction, it's older games but it is a proof, that any pc can do this. (especially know) IF all the technical information is out there, then show me, with a technical proof.
There's liteally bars in the top left of the video showing more and more off-site servers doing the caluclations, how you arrived at the position this means xones doing are the calculations is beyond me. Please learn that you can change an opinion when presented with evidence. There's a reason you got 0 agrees and 19 disagrees.
neoandrew Yes, the reason is people that have no clue what they are talking about, and those videos aren't any technical proof.
Lol lets just wait til it releases and there's millions of players using the "cloud" to run this game. If it works perfectly (which I doubt) then I will swallow my words. Microsoft is the king of PR stunts and I believe this wont work as well as people think. You will most likely need an EXTREMELY good internet connection for this to run flawlessly without lag or server issues. I would love to be proven wrong though. People love to hop on the bandwagon.
You don't have Dave Jones (the co-creator of GTA) working on a technology for over 3 years, and build an entire AAA game as a 'PR stunt', I mean that's a ludacris insinuation as I'm sure you'll agree in hindsight. They've stated this game requires 2-4Mbps, the average UK speed is 15Mbps, so literally you only need a fraction of the average internet speed for it to work. Latency shouldn't be an issue as there are muliple Azure server farms located on each continent. Really it's the network coding, on how it scales inside azure, is the only real unknown.. but this can and will be fixed with patches. It's fair to assume that the first few weeks are going to be a horrible mess, that's why they say Multiplayer coming in 2016 probably in the form of an extended beta to stress test.
I can't wait for this, next steps are full online only games really putting the cloud to use.
I need that X 1 and this game. Hope they make part 2 BC
Why Isn't this cloud tec being used in halo are gears of war, like xbox games that actually matter. They use the cloud in TF in forza and in this game but not in its havy hitters? Why. Im confused, image playing gears with the Could compute physics.
Crackdown is the pioneer. Halo and Gears will probably follow with similar tech. They did test offloading lighting to the cloud in Halo 4 multiplayer I believe.
Forza uses the cloud to process data post game... It doesn't do any real time processing work. TitanFall uses it to supply dedicated servers... And that's basically it... crackdown was developed with Cloudgine to be the first game to utilize cloud compute from multiple servers in a real time environment. So cloudgine is the first company to do this, and Crackdown is their first game... There's no way that timing would allow Cloudgine to provide its technology to other, in development games, like Halo or Gears... Chances are though, that once Crackdown is released, we'll start to see this tech integrated into other MS Franchises.
All of Titanfall AI is computed in the cloud. Its not just dedicated servers
Any MP game with AI is going to process the AI on the host machine... Whether that host is a P2P client or a dedicated server... TitanFalls implementation isn't really ground breaking in and of itself... It's just that in TitanFall, the amount of AI on the map and the fact that they weren't intended to replace human players was a novel idea. They used AI differently... But server processed AI is nothing new.
Gears nd crackdown started development around the same seeing there releasn around the same time, i guess we shell see, they wait more then half the console life to even give ppl the offset of always online, when this should have been done up front. To lil to late, until i see it in high profile games its just a 1start.
@classic19 False, Gears and Crackdown did not start development at the same time... Microsoft announced it was working with Cloudgine since before the the Xbox one was reveal... MS didn't buy the Gears IP until January of 2014... Just because they are releasing around the same time doesn't mean development started at the same time... crackdown is entering uncharted waters... Naturally this tech take time to develop... MS didn't 'wait' to reveal this tech... They've been working on it all along, and it will be ready next year. New tech takes time to develop... That's like saying Sony waited to long to release Morpheus.... You can't release something before it's ready...
Better to test this new type of tech out on an IP that can afford to lose if it doesn't work. Gears and Halo are to well established to have something really experimental done to the formula. But if Crackdown is a success and this cloud tech really works I suspect to see this in more MS 1st party games.
It's fun watching the naysayers scramble for some mud to sling.
but only if you are connected to the internet....those people who aren't get screwed. Wonder what the excuse is that they can't do it for the entire game when games 2 gens back could do it without internet. Looks awesome but seems like the predictions that MS flipflop with the always online is starting to head back in that direction, next they will probably find a way to make sure you can't share discs again. 2 steps forward (Finally revealing some worthwhile games and backward compatibility) 1 step back (starting to go back to the Big Brother Box they revealed originally). Wonder what they will cut from Halo 5 and Gears HD from people that don't have internet.
What last gen game had this level of detail physics base destruction plz tell me. Plz don't say Earth Defense Force or Merc game I own both of those games and they don't compare.
You are assuming you know what kind of demolition you will be able to do in SP. Just cause it won't be 100% doesn't mean it wont be good.RF was nothing like this at all. RF it was egg shell buildings that clipped thru each other and the ground.So no nothing like this has been done at all ever. Keep trying tho.
Your argument is dumb. We already have titan fall and destiny , smite, any MMO. All require internet connection to play. Why do you complain about Crackdown, it is really no different. Except for the fact that it at least has a single player mode.
Who dosent have the internet ? and if you don't , sorry about your luck , don't make the rest of us suffer.
Its for Multiplayer, of course you have to be on the internet, regardless of the destruction. Whats it matter if the physics depend on being online when youre online anyway. Having said that I would have no problems if they had this level of destruction in the single player game but you had to be online. Theyre trying to up the ante here, and its one game, not a philosophy for a whole console. Quit whining.
lol, Bathyj I just disagreed with you in one thread, now I'm agreeing with you here. OT I really don't understand Summons complaint at all.
Well that just shows everything is not black and white, there are always shades of grey. Dammit, you cant even say that now without sounding corny. Thanks alot E L James. And yes I did have to google the authors name. ;P
so I need to be connected to the internet to play this games multiplayer?? What a scam !
"Wonder what they will cut from Halo 5 and Gears HD from people that don't have internet." It's been confirmed that online multiplayer will not be available to players who do not get online. Bastards.
"but only if you are connected to the internet....those people who aren't get screwed." This is a moot point to an xbox owner. You dont buy an xbox if you dont have an internet connection. that means you cant update the system or use the store. Even if you dont play online, connecting an XB1 to the internet is second nature. "Looks awesome but seems like the predictions that MS flipflop with the always online is starting to head back in that direction, next they will probably find a way to make sure you can't share discs again." "Wonder what they will cut from Halo 5 and Gears HD from people that don't have internet." Interesting how you just pulled that out of your ass so casually. Less FUD, yeah? its also off topic. Your funny though.
"2 gens back could do it without internet. What game 2 gens back could you level an entire city, use the debris as weapons, had miltiplayer, had a huge working city, buildings with pipes, water mains and other structural details, please enlighten us on this wondrous game on consoles 2 gen back. "Wonder what they will cut from Halo 5 and Gears HD from people that don't have internet." The MP...you know like any other game that requires an internet connection on PS4, WiiU, Steam, and the Xbox One. Is this the best a lot of you have when trying to downplay Crackdown 3?
Destroy buildings,enemies inhale debris,dies in one week.Make it happen Ms
I got it...an asbestos perk that is actually highly toxic and turns enemies into mustant zombies that can leap 50ft into the air and throw cars at you. In a one week. Oh..and when you get hit by a car that they throw at you, it send you flying into the a building, just like when superheroes are kicking eachothers asses.