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Spencer Clarifies That He Was Not Taking Shots At Sony, Gamescom Strong Showing Due To Team Effort

Microsoft's Phil Spencer also praises EA's games showing. Microsoft also shares Gamescom booth images.

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SpaceRanger1025d ago

Sounded like a shot to me. Like if third party deals for DLC and early access are no good to them now. Market share may not influence price, but I can guarantee that they sure as hell won't go running to the console who is 10+ million behind. That's the influence market share has.

The only reason no one liked it last gen was because they'd do it and not put out exclusives. Sony on the other hand is doing it WHILE putting out exclusives this gen. Contrary to popular belief from the Xbox camp (especially also in regards to visuals and gameplay) it IS possible to have BOTH.

Thatguy-3101025d ago (Edited 1025d ago )

That's what people fail to realize! No one said the deals are cheap to Sony because of their lead but you better expect the deal to be a lot more expensive if you want to pair off a big AAA title with the console that's 10+ million behind. It's funny how Microsoft is clamoring about first party studios when the majority of them still have to prove themselves.

Majin-vegeta1025d ago

Yea they may not be cheap but it may be a lot easier for them to get than MS.

miyamoto1025d ago (Edited 1025d ago )

How can it be all about the money when according to popular belief by many Xbox fans that Sony is facing bancrupcy and MS deep wallets can't be emptied?

You see Phil Spencer and his avid fans contradict each other vividly.

Sony 33 billion
MS 330 billion

Bitter irony

Even a 9 year old little kid knows that market share has a lot to do where 3rd party devs wanna market their games. Dragon Quest X and XI are comingvto PS4 for example as Enix always release main DQ games on the platform with most market share.

Its just common sense. No need to lie about it, Phil.

UKmilitia1025d ago

i would put alot of money on the fact that Sony would have ot pay less than MS with current situation.

just like last gen i bet Sony would of been charged more.

iTechHeads1025d ago (Edited 1025d ago )

Yeah if money was all it took then why isn't Microsoft just buying everything and keeping it off the PS4? Why isn't the upcoming FFVII Remake a simultaneous release? Why isn't Dragon Quest coming to XB1? Persona 5? Bloodborne? Deep Down? Street Fighter V? Why is Call Of Duty DLC and beta first on PS4? Destiny.....I can keep going...

Microsoft has lots of money, more so than Sony.

So saying that marketshare doesn't affect 3rd party partnerships is a flat-out lie by Phil Spencer. It's not like Sony has trillions of dollars to spend on Playstation deals.

Sony has a strong market presence with the PS4 and a huge sales lead worldwide. That is obviously a huge factor in the current situation with many games coming first or only on PS4, particularly in with indies.

NukaCola1025d ago

“Rogue Squadron was best Star Wars space combat franchise Imo."

Such a truth. Also was Nintendo only series that I would love to see on this gen.

Rogue Squadron 3
Jedi Knight 3
KOTOR 3
Republic Commando 2

OT: I think Phil is doing a really good job. MS was burning in pretty hard these last few years. Phil is one of the main reasons that XBOX didn't crash. Which is good. He is a gamer not just a businessman so it's nice to see that Sony and MS can play nice in the mud ring.

Still think the TR stuff is BS, but other than that, things are looking up for this gen.

morganfell1025d ago

That was a shot. He acts as if MS hasn't been buying COD for an entire generation. He had better make the most of it. Sony will own the Paris Game Show, they will own TGS, and they will have PSX.

In direct relation to that shot, the two biggest selling games this fall are Sony Marketing packages. One of those is Star Wars and that will be the biggest theme this Christmas.

Ezz20131025d ago (Edited 1025d ago )

I never liked Spencer
He seems very fake to me

And reading his interview with Gamespot
It indeed sound like his taking shots at Sony to me.

And after Sony show what they got in their upcoming 3 shows...No xbox fan will be found on the internet.

gangsta_red1025d ago

@Ezz

"I never liked Spencer
He seems very fake to me"

In comparison to who?

"And after Sony show what they got in their upcoming 3 shows...No xbox fan will be found on the internet."

SMH...really?

4Sh0w1025d ago (Edited 1025d ago )

-Where is the shot?...Gamespot asked a question, he gave an answer based on his experience:

"When asked by GameSpot if the Xbox One is having a tougher time getting third party content compared to Sony, Spencer said, “So, they [Sony] don’t ‘gobble’ the deals up. They buy them."

“You know, I read the same things you do, and I know some people think it’s somehow less expensive to sign third-party exclusives if you have a bigger market-share. I can tell you, it has nothing to do with market share.”

-Unless one of you n4g analyst have some inside info(proof) in regards to Phils 3rd party negotiations(just 1 pub that says otherwise=proof) then Im going to go with the guy who's done nothing but good for Xbox while also praising sony at every event.

Winner=Phil, Loser=fanboys again, Case closed.

Ezz20131025d ago (Edited 1025d ago )

@gangsta_red

""In comparison to who?""
To no one
I just don't like him and he seems fake to me
and him taking shot at Sony prove that.
Should i love him because you do or something ?!

""SMH...really?!&am p;am p;am p;qu ot;"
Yes, really.

and Lol now you reply to me after how many times i called you out about your Ps4 psn.

GameNameFame1025d ago (Edited 1025d ago )

@gangsta_red

""I never liked Spencer
He seems very fake to me"

In comparison to who?"

Lol. is this what damage control has come to? Seriously?

He doesnt like spencer. Get over it. You don't have to not like someone compared to someone else.

or be faker than someone else... for that matter.

Thats just insecure.

Mr Pumblechook1025d ago

Andrew House said in an old interview, after the high launch sales and market share of the PS4 that it would help with working with third party companies!

It sounds like Phil Spencer is fighting the perception (whether true or not) that Sony has got those mega deals like Call of Duty, Destiny, Final Fantasy VII Remake and Shenmue III because of PS4 sales success.

Because Andrew House is so senior that he doesn't communicate with customers via tweeting, anything Spencer says can go unchallenged.

choujij1025d ago

Looks like Phil's showing his true colors.

magiciandude1025d ago

"the two biggest selling games this fall are Sony Marketing packages."

This is a testament to how far downhill Sony went from the PS3-era. Sony was the new IP machine, but those days are long gone, and in place comes marketing, marketing, and more marketing. It's sad that this is the very best Sony has going for the PS4. I can't believe that marketing packages have taken the crown from exclusive games this generation, all because of blind brand worship.

OT: Sony has taken shots at MS in the past. Remember their 2013 E3 press conference with their used games video? Clearly a hidden jab at MS, but they denied it. Now that Spencer denies his shots at Sony, he gets burned at the stake.

You see, the Sony only folks have bashed MS all of last gen for timed exclusive DLC and CoD marketing. Now that Sony is pushing these practices with what little money they have, all of a sudden they are okay. Sony fans, of all kinds of people, are the most hypocritical and inconsistent I've ever seen on the internet. Being sensible is the last thing they can ever do, and their frothing at the mouth is very disgusting, but at the same time somewhat entertaining to watch.

RpgSama1025d ago (Edited 1025d ago )

@magiciandude

"This is a testament to how far downhill Sony went from the PS3-era. Sony was the new IP machine, but those days are long gone, and in place comes marketing, marketing, and more marketing"

So Horizon, Dreams, Knack, Resogun, Until Dawn, Bloodborne, Alienation, Drawn to Death, The Last Guardian, Driveclub, Everybody's gone to the rapture, Kill Strain, The Order 1886, The Playroom, Rime, Shadow of The Beast (maybe not new, new, but a long lost IP), The Tomorrow Children, What Remains of Edith Fich and Wild are not new IPs?

You could argue not all of them are 90 or above Metracritic, but they are new, and i'm not even mentioning first party stuff like Tearaway unfolded, Little Big Planet 3, Uncharted 4, Ratched & Clanck, Infamous: Second Son and Killzone: Shadow fall, because they are not new IPs.

alb18991025d ago

Ezz2013
You don't have to like Spencer but you have to admit that since he is the boss the Xbox is getting better every day. He knows what gamers want and is working hard to give just that to us.......so who cares if he looks fake to you, that is just a personal perception.

dcbronco1025d ago

Miyamoto Sony doesn't have a huge market share with the PS4 in Japan. And it doesn't look like they will any time soon. Japan has gone to mobile. I would think it wouldn't cost much for Microsoft to get DQ on Xbox One.

n4rc1025d ago

its kind of crazy to see how far some will try and spin a comment..

its a business deal... they arent excluded because they are in 2nd place... why did they used to spend all their money on them? to make up for a lack of 1st party titles..

why is sony doing it now? because their 1st party stuff isnt ready yet... andrew house said it himself

but yes.. obviously it will cost more to secure rights if you are behind.. doesnt mean you cant get it if you really want it..

as to why they dont just buy every games rights and monopolize the console business... cmon.. that doesnt even merit a response.

Septic1025d ago

Yeah he clarifies that Sony also buy their third party exclusives and even then commends them for their first party IP's and people think he's taking a shot at them?! Lol get real...

UnHoly_One1024d ago

The delusion of Sony fans never ceases to amaze me.

The guy didn't say one negative thing. Nothing. He answered a simple question. I don't know how any of you are even able to twist that into "taking a shot" at Sony.

And the fact that you are all still convinced that somehow these companies are selling exclusivity to Sony at a discount because there are more PS4's... lol

Maybe I'm weird, but I'm more inclined to believe the guy in charge of the Xbox Division of Microsoft than the rabid N4G fanboys that think they know how everything works.

dcbronco1024d ago

Unholy of course Microsoft would pay more for an exclusivity deal right now. That's is one the fanboys have right. It's just like any other business. If you have a better spot(position) you get a better deal. It's location, location, location.

Just based on potential customers or a given percentage of those customers you are likely to sell more on PS4. So in order to get a developer to turn away from a larger potential customer base you need to offer them an incentive. Which means enough money to make it worth their while.

It has to be as much or close to it in order for them to risk it. More than likely less than because most developers probably borrow money to pay for development. A free check plus tax games allow you to save money.

n4rc1024d ago

I don't think it matters much who has it.. A ps4 sale and a Xbox sale is the same..

Xbox players may drop a bit as ps4 players increase (simply due to dlc, not higher player base) but overall.. It likely doesn't matter to Activision who buys it..

If Xbox got it again.. Ps4 sales would still be there.. It only really factors in for owners of both systems.. Most would likely buy on ps4 but Activision still gets a sale no matter what

Tldr.. It means something for Sony and ms.. Doesn't really matter to Activision

dcbronco1024d ago

Miyamoto, with that name I assume you're an adult. If you question Sony's financial situation the internet is full of articles with quotes from people like CEO Kaz Hirai speaking about Sony's troubles. If their market cap is back up to 33 that is great. But look at their last five years. The last ten. Their cap used to be in the 100 billion range. They have sold off half the company. So if you know what a market cap is, you know enough to look a little further. They may be close to being out of the woods, but they are not safe yet.

Also look up junk bond status. I haven't looked in a while but the last time I did that was their stock rating and they were about to be delisted. Which would have been automatic bankruptcy.

morganfell1023d ago (Edited 1023d ago )

And yet with Sony's supposed dire financial situation, living in the poor house, Microsoft and enough money to buy the moon and still rent Mars on the side, they can't manage to outperform Sony.

What does that tell you? According to their supporters, MS drives around in money burning cars, and they grind up spare $100 bills for mulch, yet here is poor little Sony selling double with a more powerful console.

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Aloy-Boyfriend1025d ago (Edited 1025d ago )

Coming from the guy who once said they don't need t own studios to have good games, I'm not surprise he's taking back his words after Sony's continuous success with 1st party titles throughout the years.

It's pretty hypocritical they are now like they don't care for a practice they relied on for an entire gen just because they aren't in the lead

ShowanW1025d ago

And Phil wasn't head of Xbox during that span either.

So there you go.

Satya Nadella's vision and Ballmer's vision arent even close to being one and the same.

tinynuggins1025d ago

He never said that, nice try. Feel free to post that link though.

donthate1025d ago

MS doesn't need to own the studios, they just own the IP. Notice that when MS says first party, they mean the IPs.

Take a closer look at ReCore, ScaleBound, and Quantum Break and you get the idea. Heck, even Halo Wars 2 is outsourced.

Why build a team, when you can hire the best that already has massive experience and talent to do it better?

Maxor1025d ago

Owning studios means that you must shut them down. In the grand scheme of things, this is a better business model.

Ezz20131025d ago

""Coming from the guy who once said they don't need t own studios to have good games""

He really said that ?!

thisismyaccount1024d ago (Edited 1024d ago )

Phil Spencer, the guy responsible? for shutting down few ms studios when he was elected...
http://arcadesushi.com/micr...

Microsoft: You don't need to own studios to make great games (only 611 exclsuive games since you entered the scene)
http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

Phil Spencer on why Microsoft is joining the PC Gaming Show (and DOES JACKSHIT ... except for W10 streaming)
http://www.pcgamer.com/inte...

Phil Spencer: "We ignored what was going on with Windows" to launch Xbox
http://www.pcgamer.com/phil...

Xbox’s Phil Spencer doesn’t think VR is a ‘now’ thing (but OTHERs do and more IMPORTANTLY Hollywood as well, inc. VR Movies)
http://www.gamesradar.com/p...

Xbox boss Phil Spencer assures gamers that Microsoft hasn't abandoned Kinect (a "charlatan" trying to brainwash ...)
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk...

Microsoft admits 'we've lost our way' on PC games (and after e3 and GC, they still havent done JS about it, to make it any better, except for that XB1 streaming to PC)
http://finance.yahoo.com/ne...

He seems to have an answer to every question/inquiry Xbox fans might have. Wonder what he says when his wive wants to "play" with him

"Our long term 3rd party relationship has to be improved"

He´s better than Nelson or Arrongantberg, but i bet with you that Phil and pretty much all those "corporate snobs" over at MS have not finished one game in their lives.

Shu at least has finished Bloodborne, completed one of the chalice with -50% HP reduction and on camera, plays on nintendo systems as well ...

Phil Spencer is the cooler version of Don Mattrick, period. He ain´t better than him, he was part of the intial DRM strategy and he was part of every Microsoft decision about the XB1 (pre and post launch), but only Mattrick got "face slapped"... like Mattrick was the sole one responsible for the intial fiasko. Sure...

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Haru1025d ago

Every less-popular console has to rely on exclusives exactly like how xbox one relies on exclusive now because they can't get 3rd party exclusive like they did last gen or how Nintendo keeps pomping out exclusive because no 3rd part developer would develop for their console

lastking951025d ago

Wii had the most sales last gen so that's BS. Sales probably plays a role but in the end money talks. If MS or Sony don't bring a load of cash they're not getting timed dlc or 3rd oarty deals.

Automatic791025d ago

@Haru

"Every less-popular console has to rely on exclusives exactly like how xbox one relies on exclusive now because they can't get 3rd party exclusive like they did last gen"

You must not have watched E3 and Gamescom

Xbox One has third party deals with Fallout4, RainbowSix Siege, Division, Just Cause 3, Plants v Zombies Garden Warfare 2, Homefront 2 and TombRaider 2.

I think they have aligned themselves beautifully with third party.

There situation is not as less popular as you think. LOL

Poobz1024d ago

id suggest to you that the previous xboss allowed games licensing to run down with the idea he wanted the xbox to be something more than a console, he failed and left.

Spencer takes over and has since turned the console around too where it has no equal in the amount of games it can play. sure, it may have lost multi-plat content. but it is making up for it in so many other ways.

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AsheXII1025d ago

Not really, anyone who read the article knows Phill simply replied to a direct question, which GAF re-appropriated to cause controversy.

Phill shouldn't have to be bothered by other peoples reading skills.

medman1025d ago (Edited 1025d ago )

@spaceranger
Phil Spencer is smart enough to not take shots at Sony...Sony is going to do what Sony is going to do. Phil has to focus on what he can control. In addition, it would be foolish for Phil to be "taking shots at Sony", when Sony has a 70-90 percent market share in Europe. Taking shots is not the answer to balancing that equation, more games is.

Now, there is no doubt that the European battle will not be won by the xbone this generation, and if there is another console generation for both Sony and Microsoft, xbox probably won't win that one either. But they need to start establishing more European support somehow, and although I don't personally care for games like Scalebound or Crackdown (Quantum Break I am highly interested in though) there is little doubt that Microsoft's strong gamescom showing certainly won't do them harm in Europe.

I think it's going to be very interesting to see how Sony closes out the year with Paris, Tokyo, and the Playstation Experience. Sony still has many first party studios working on games we don't know about, the question is how many of those will we learn about before Christmas? I'm betting we'll hear two new reveals at ps experience, with the rest of the first party reveals saved for E3 next year. Sony Santa Monica, Quantic Dream, Sucker Punch, Polyphony, Naughty Dog's second team, etc. etc. still have a lot of noise to make.

fermcr1025d ago (Edited 1025d ago )

After so many shots Sony deliberately took at Microsoft on the beginning of this gen...

How easily people forget!

Ahytys1025d ago

Yeah, well... Sony can! (jk, don't get offended)

-Foxtrot1025d ago

Oh you mean at things which were not consumer friendly to us gamers.

Microsoft took their fair of of shots at Sony last gen

Christopher1025d ago

I don't blame Phil on the answer. He was answering exactly what the interviewer asked.

I blame the interviewer for instigating a discussion with biased questions to make it appear that Sony focuses more on 3rd party games than 1st party overall while MS doesn't.

Fact is, both companies focus on both at the same time. The interviewer just was upholding the annoying concept that somehow MS had flipped the switch and stopped focusing on third-party deals. They haven't, or we wouldn't see things like RotTR, "first on XBO", "XBO console exclusive" or the like with a ton of third-parties.

MCTJim1025d ago

EXACTLY..I also cant see why such outrage...more like fake outrage so it seems they are so evil. He answered and clarified...move on..such trivial juvenile straw arguments in this thread. Boo Hoo

Jayszen1025d ago

Spaceranger, well said!

Sony is doing this gen exactly what Microsoft was happily doing with the 360 and on top the PS4 has so many exclusives slated for 2016 and beyond, in addition to a host of smaller titles yet to come to the PS4 this year.

In the end it is all good as both consoles will have plenty of games to enjoy.

Ocsta1025d ago

Nothing you said is wrong and yet bots are disagreeing your *** off. Denial aint just a river in egypt.

Magicite1025d ago

After what Spencer said Ive a feeling that MS dont want to let xbox division to shed money on 3rd party deals anymore as its not profitable.

Spencer is doing damage control now, its insane how many AAA marketing deals Sony has got now and they even took COD from xbox.

jb2271025d ago

It is absolutely profitable, moreso than most first party games. Look at the sales of games like Destiny on ps4 compared to XBO...considering these companies make their profits off of software, not hardware, selling millions more of a game you only purchased marketing rights to is MUCH more profitable than footing the full marketing & development bill of a game like SSO that only ends up selling around a million. I still think these deals are scaled, so whichever console is the market leader pays less than a console w/ fewer units to make up for any potential hit in sales.

Phil needs to heed his own words & kick up development of first party studios quickly because they are still lacking in that department, and second party games like Alan Wake & SSO rarely ever get more than one installment where they could otherwise be blown into a full fledged franchise if you have devs that aren't freelance that naturally invest more in properties they are creating for a longer life cycle. Too many one & done franchises in the second & third party partnership realm, great first party studios married to their specific hardware just simply turn out better games on average...not every dev can be Remedy level, and that's the only partnership that MS has truly benefitted from at this point in all honesty

blackout1025d ago

The COD deal. Now everyone is sooooo happy with COD. How funny last 3 years everyone was like COD is trash, no innovation and now that microsoft has moved on it's Sony took COD from Microsoft. Lol now COD is a great game cause Sony has a deal with Activation.

remixx1161025d ago

You know what the funny thing is blackout......your lying, not a single person here has said COD is great, not a single person.

I love how you try to spin this as if Sony fans instantly love COD now.......your pathetic.

_-EDMIX-_1025d ago

Agreed. It sucks too because they should have had a gameplan this gen for supporting ground up studios. Instead, they started out the gen with Titan Fall, Ryse, Dead Rising 3, Sunset Overdrive. Those are not bad IPs, but those are also IPs not owned by MS, those are also IPs that won't build the XB brand name for years and years.

When you take those IPs away, you start to really see how weak their line ups are, they can't just go balls deep and depend on those deals to get them by a gen, they gambled and lost.

Had they invested in first party, in house IPs with MAIN TEAMS, they would be a in a better spot by MILLIONS as gamers respond to games, period. No matter how much one hates MS, Sony, Nintendo etc, great games bring in gamers, not timed deals, not publishing IPs you don't own. That merely loses trust with gamers over time.

You can only get someone to buy a XB once with that tactic , ie Bioshock, Mass Effect, Ninja Gaiden, Lost Planet etc where not selling 360 by the time the gen ended.

That money was wasted. What is happening now is due to not spending that money on a team or IP that would live with MS for years and years and sell XB no matter what.

Example.

If MS BOUGHT Bioware instead of paying for Mass Effect...an IP at the time they didn't own, they would not have lost it to EA. Bioware clearly wanted to be bought as clearly they accepted for EA to buy the IP. Why be friends at arms length? This is BUSINESS! BUY THEM! If they are serious about beating Sony, buy the team, buy the IP, secure the rights and very much show gamers that Mass Effect is a MICROSOFT TITLE FOR LIFE! Its not about selling XB today, its about selling it tomorrow.

MS should have bought Bioware and the Mass Effect IP as suppose to being cheap and paying for development and publishing of a title THEY DON'T OWN.

JUST like Nintendo should have bought Rare as suppose to paying for publishing deals and IPs...they don't own.

Ironic too. A failing MS, is a MS that is forced to compete. We clearly know Sony can compete as they own the most first parties, put out the most new IP series by their main teams out of MS and Nintendo COMBINED. MS and Nintendo historically don't release brand new series by their main teams every gen, that doesn't happen with them, but like clock work...that happens with Sony with a large amount of there main teams.

MS failing and being forced to actually invest in new ips long term, is better for all gamers, then some timed junk that doesn't even help XB gamers. Delaying Bioshock for PS3 cost MS money, I'm pretty sure 360 fans didn't get much for a delay on another console of a game they where always going to get, you actually get less.

freshslicepizza1025d ago

how does your enjoyment improve if microsoft owns the ip or not? the answer is it doesn't. sony owns the ip heavenly sword, how does that make your ps4 enjoyment better? it doesn't because they are no indications there is another one coming. that ip is just sitting there doing nothing. so instead of releasing it to someone else who may want to do something with it sony puts it on the back burner and nobody else can create a new one, not even the team behind it unless they work with sony. so how does that benefit you?

your views are very skewed and don't even appear to be from someone who enjoys games but instead someone who analyses how the industry works without actually having any idea of how it does.

_-EDMIX-_1025d ago

@Mold- "how does your enjoyment improve if microsoft owns the ip or not? the answer is it doesn't."

Sorta does.

I'm buying an XONE for the titles that are being claimed to be exclusive. Now if I got a 360 for Mass Effect, Ninja Gaiden II etc, only to find that those games ended up else where, it means my investment was worthless.

Thus...I should not buy from them. If I own a PC, PS3 and want a XB, clearly I want it for reasons other then games I can find on systems I already own.

The reality is, I want games on the platform that are exclusive to very much justify my purchase.

Why buy a XONE for a game that very well likely will be on a platform you already own?

I'm sorry but that doesn't make sense.

I want to buy an XONE for content I can ONLY find on XONE, as I own a PS4 and PC already.

I'm pretty sure folks are not buying XONEs just to get games first for a limited time.

That is likely why they are even losing this gen.

Ask yourself this, is Mass Effect selling XONEs right now or next gen systems in general?

I mean...that game is a multiplatform game, yet MS invested lots of money in it, at the end of the day...its not selling an XONE any more then Madden is.

I'd rather they invest in games that build XB as a brand as suppose to investing in IPs they don't own that won't even get them sales the next gen around.

MS publishing titles they don't own the IP to is likely why you see many question ReCore and Scalebound, even if MS owns the IP, it will be in questino because of their history.

Sony has no history of publishing titles they don't own.

You know as a consumer that getting a PS4 for a Sony title means it will STAY on their platforms, you factually don't know what with MS, they have history of funding and publishing things they don't own.

Don't be surprised if many lost sales are consumers under the believe that many of those titles will come else where later on.

Again...they have a history of it. Sony doesn't as to likely why they've sold the most even with MS and Nintendo's life time console sales COMBINED.

I mean...you have to get that they are doing something correct. Who is buying a XONE for Mass Effect, Bioshock etc? I mean...fool me once lol

When its multiplatform, it fair game, it literally can go either way, its not a plus, its not a minus.

I'm pretty sure XB fans would rather MS spend money on new IPs THEY OWN vs delaying a game.

100 million to delay a game doesn't do jack for you as the consumer as much as it does for MS as a company, they merely give an illusion of support.

REAL support is building a team with a LONG TERM OWNED IP in mind.

Coalition...built clearly to make Gears Of War. Gears Of War IP bought, clearly...MS has long term plans for it. THAT is real support, that is something that won't slip through the cracks. I'm pretty sure fans want more of that vs delaying for personal gain. That offers nothing for fans, its just delaying else where as suppose to spending money on long term IPs and teams.

"your views are very skewed and don't even" don't care, stay on topic. Not sure why you take it so personal and emotional. Keep on topic bud.

freshslicepizza1025d ago

@_-EDMIX-_
"I'm buying an XONE for the titles that are being claimed to be exclusive. Now if I got a 360 for Mass Effect, Ninja Gaiden II etc, only to find that those games ended up else where, it means my investment was worthless."

makes no sense at all, games worth is not based on whether they end up somewhere else later but on your enjoyment.

"I want to buy an XONE for content I can ONLY find on XONE, as I own a PS4 and PC already."

do any of the games you own on the ps4 are also available on the pc?

"I'm pretty sure folks are not buying XONEs just to get games first for a limited time. "

i'm pretty sure you have no idea.

"That is likely why they are even losing this gen."

they are not losing because of timed exclusive deals and the ps4 is not winning based on exclusive games.

"Ask yourself this, is Mass Effect selling XONEs right now or next gen systems in general?"

that's not a very insightful question since the game came out on the xbox 360.

"I mean...that game is a multiplatform game, yet MS invested lots of money in it, at the end of the day...its not selling an XONE any more then Madden is."

it sold well on the xbox 360, what's your point?

"I'd rather they invest in games that build XB as a brand as suppose to investing in IPs they don't own that won't even get them sales the next gen around."

they are.

"MS publishing titles they don't own the IP to is likely why you see many question ReCore and Scalebound, even if MS owns the IP, it will be in questino because of their history."

as far as we know they are coming to the xbox one only. what is your worry, that one day they may come to the pc? once again you are basing your enjoyment on hypothetical and are willing to wit years for maybe a chance to play it on another system. bioshock and oblivion were both released on the pc and xbox 360 simultaneously. both games sold extremely well and eventually came to the ps3 and did not sell nearly as well. that concludes two things you fail to grasp. one is the pc and consoles can co-exist which is why sony also invests in games that also come to the pc like street fighter and no mans sky. the second is consumers want games earlier as most game sales are front loaded. this is why timed exclusives hurt the competition and why both sony and microsoft invest in them.

"Sony has no history of publishing titles they don't own."

so? this does not make your enjoyment of those games any less or better.

"I'm pretty sure XB fans would rather MS spend money on new IPs THEY OWN vs delaying a game. "

they are doing both and have said their long term plans is to invest more in ip's of their own. you just like repeating yourself.

gangsta_red1025d ago

@ Emix

"I'm pretty sure folks are not buying XONEs just to get games first for a limited time. "

Oh you took a poll of every X1 owner out there to get this statistic bud? Hilarious you can make these broad statements but just about a minute ago question others who made the same.

Your whole argument and obsession of MS doesn't own the IP is hilariously misconstrued as it has absolutely no bearing on the end user what so ever. Not only that but a lot of people on this site have continued to tell you and show you over and over again about the many new IP's MS is making that ARE OWNED by MS but you continue to play ignorant and keep asking or ranting about how MS doesn't own any of the new IP's they are making.

Not only that but you continue to bring up the 360 era which is over with games like Mass Effect and Bioshock to prove some point which is now moot since MS/Phil has clarified a number of times in interviews that they are working on owning all their IP's.

"...is likely why you see many question ReCore and Scalebound, even if MS owns the IP, it will be in questino because of their history."

Lol! Many? You mean YOU! And even if they went somewhere else, why would you even care? You don't even own a Xbox One and you made it clear that you would want to play these games on your PC.

"REAL support is building a team with a LONG TERM OWNED IP in mind."

REAL support is also giving their users more games no matter where they come from. REAL SUPPORT means having multiple teams work on your established franchises while at the same time building new IP's THAT YOU OWN, but utilizing time management so not only can you give your users the well known franchises but also give them new experiences without having to make them wait three or four years in between.

That is REAL support Edmix, supporting your user base.

_-EDMIX-_1025d ago

@Mold and red.

Didn't read, don't care. Don't want timed junk, I want to see their main teams do different ips vs 4 halo, 4 gears 4 forza combo every gen.

Getting a bit lame. I know you guys support anything they do even if they turned into some beet farm.

Red be like - "Beet farms are on the raise good choice"

Mold- "gaming, piff last gen, Beets...now that is something I can sink my teeth into"

Stop supporting delays, start supporting new studios and MS owned IPs.

freshslicepizza1024d ago (Edited 1024d ago )

@_-EDMIX-_
"Didn't read, don't care. Don't want timed junk, I want to see their main teams do different ips vs 4 halo, 4 gears 4 forza combo every gen."

oh but you do care, it's why you write so many comments to the point of spamming the site. if you didn't care you wouldn't be wasting your time. and you did read, you saying you didn't is just a tactic in order to not have to respond directly because what i say is true.

"Getting a bit lame. I know you guys support anything they do even if they turned into some beet farm.
Red be like - "Beet farms are on the raise good choice"
Mold- "gaming, piff last gen, Beets...now that is something I can sink my teeth into"

interesting response especially when you just wrote earlier telling others to stay on topic. why are you even here?

"Stop supporting delays, start supporting new studios and MS owned IPs."

see this is what happens when you don't read replies, you ignore that they are indeed investing in new ip's and delays happen with everyone not just the xbox.

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andibandit1025d ago

While I cant really grasp how having a bigger market share wouldn't make an exclusivety deal cheaper, in comparison to a lower market share, someone explain to me how it's a shot at Sony?.

lvl_headed_gmr1025d ago

So telling the truth is a shot?

Phil said Sony is buying 3rd party deals. That's exactly what Sony is doing.

Remember when MS did it last gen and all the Sony loyalists complained about MS "Money Hatting"....well it's now Sony who is "Money Hatting" and MS who are focused on the exclusives.

It's just business. No big deal. Here is a way to remedy the issue if you have one...OWN BOTH CONSOLES!!

Bigpappy1025d ago

I expect Sony fanboys to think saying Sony is paying for 3rd party deals to be offensive and a shot at Sony. They have convinced themselves that 3rd party are just in love with Sony and PS4 to the point where other platforms are just an afterthought. They believe the sizable lead means 3rd party are actually begging Sony to let them release games on PS4. Fanboyism is a disease that prevents people from hearing or seeing things as they are, but instead, seeing them as the would like.

PS fanboy said he never liked Phil Spencer... Republican says he never like Obama.

ChuckTheIceMan1024d ago (Edited 1024d ago )

Game companies are going to explore any good options when it comes to making money, and both ps and xb are great money making platforms. They have almost the same hardware so development is not an issue.

Oh and Microsoft as a company could buy and sell sony about 17 times over if they wanted to.

underwaves751024d ago

you garauntee no one will go for the system that is behind in sales..?
Why? That's a silly way to look at in in my opinion.
Objectively irregardless of the Xbone sales (which are leaps and bounds over 360 by the way)

The Xbone has made worlds of improvements over Sony's box at this point. and that's not an opinion. Those are facts.

To say say people will flock to a video game system because more people own one is ridiculous..

I go where the games are. And that's One place right now.

For the record, i still haven't played Last Of Us so i'm off to buy a used PS3 for 60 bucks and play it there.

So i'm no fan boy, I'm a guy who likes games. That's all.

SpaceRanger1024d ago

"you garauntee no one will go for the system that is behind in sales..?
Why? That's a silly way to look at in in my opinion.
Objectively irregardless of the Xbone sales (which are leaps and bounds over 360 by the way)"

Are basic business concepts that hard for you and other people on this site? Let me put it in a way you can understand. I own ONE ice cream truck, there are two neighborhoods that I have to go to. One has 25 and the other has 13. I can't go to both places at once. So which would be the first and best neighborhood to go to so that I can earn the most money before going to the next?

Take your time figuring it out. Cause I don't feel like replying back to you. So I won't.

"To say say people will flock to a video game system because more people own one is ridiculous.. "

No one ever said that? People have and will continue to flock to the one that sells more not because of sales but because they have BOTH quality and quantity of games.

"I go where the games are. And that's One place right now. "

Yeah that one place is on the PS4. If you like waiting till MS blows their load writhing a 3 week time span...then by all means keep waiting. There's no games RIGHT NOW.

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nossred1025d ago (Edited 1025d ago )

As always biased media trying to smear and discredit the work Phil and Ms, no matter what he does good always the haters will nitpick to extol the own console.

TheGreatGamer1025d ago

Can't say anything without it being twisted. With how often Phil is praising Sony's games you'd think people (ps4 fans) would be less nitpicky but there you are

TheBrit1025d ago

You cannot be less nit-picky when you are so closed minded :)

joeorc1025d ago (Edited 1025d ago )

Oh come on now,trying to say is sony fans were less picky? How about this level headed view the next time one of Sony's execs words get twisted..would Microsoft fans also as you say be less pickey toward a sony PR miss step?

I like Phil very much, but on the same token it seems you are doing exactly what Sony fans do for their PR people for Microsoft, it works both ways you know.

And Media.Bias against Microsoft to smear their company to the poster above you?!really? You want to talk about media bias...against Microsoft..?

There is Media Bias towards all the companies, but to act like Microsoft is getting it the worst is really pretty ironic since for over 8 [email protected] years on media sites year after year Sony was viewed in perception as a company with no money, had to sell buildings just to survive, and now a cash strapped company such as Sony is as Phil said it buying 3rd party exclusives and install base has nothing to do with it?

Or how Sony does not care about your protection of private data, but now in Windows 10 you base share your internet password is set to base be shared unless you go through and tell it no!

Or how about Sharing your internet bandwidth set to defaulted unless you tell it not to in windows 10.

Or how about Microsoft's Kinect was used by the British go t to intercept video feed and snap pictures...but yet hackers breech Sony's network in a concentrated effort to cause damage, but yet Microsoft can set your defaults to share your password in windows 10/and your bandwidth you pay for to other users you may not even know..but yet where is page after page of posts like that on N4G about that..hmmm.

The blunt truth of the matter all the companies get lambasted, but trying to say one side is worse than the other about it is pretty ironic, I mean just today you had people say oh' Sony fans are the worse, or Sony fans are scum of the earth.

When both sides has people saying stuff like that, but playing the victim card is getting a lil tiring.

When "Victim's aren't we all"/is more approximately the real truth of it all.

rdgneoz31025d ago

Sony praises xbox just as much as xbox praises sony (which tend to be around game shows/conferences when they have new reveals / gameplay).

Also, it's not twisting words when you have a direct quote from him...

When asked by GameSpot if the Xbox One is having a tougher time getting third party content compared to Sony, Spencer said, “So, they [Sony] don’t ‘gobble’ the deals up. They buy them."

And complaining about others buying exclusivity deals when your company spent, for instance, $50 mill on GTA IV timed exclusive DLC (not to mentioned timed DLC for COD in the past), it's a bit hypocritical. And that's not talking about all the 3rd party exclusives they've bought, like