Pspsps.tv writes: "Based on what we've just seen, it's still a pretty basic platforming affair and unless there's a lot more depth to the final product I can't see that having the legs to become the console seller it is meant to be."
??? i think you dont see what the point is for LBP
he's pretty retarded.....he was probably expecting master chief in a tps
have i been watching a different game then? because i completely disagree with them...
I agree. What game have they been playing? How can you add any more depth? How is it not going to be a console seller? Maybe I'm misinformed, but I think this is ridiculous
Yet in won game of the show from like three respectable gaming site, and every single preview i have read has been nothing but praises.
No depth? People have been playing Super Mario Bros. for 20+ years. i still play it. In fact, I intend to make Super Mario Bros. in LBP( along with dozens of other gamers I'm sure). Not to mention that MM has gone on record saying if there's anything they forgot that is highly requested they'll work to deliver it to us. Power-ups, guns, new materials, liquids, magnets, are just the short list of things I would like to see in the game in the future. Of course, I do realize they haven't shown us everything yet. And no, these suggestions are in no way in criticism of the game. I just hope they support it for years to come. I could potentially spend lots and lots of money on DLC for this game.
I imagine that there is some truth to the depth comment. There is only so much that could be done with a game that is essentially a level editor, without straying from the "creative freedom" aspect of the game. Bungie did it first with the Forge in Halo 3, and although cool initially, you are missing the structure of a storyline, player progression, and a cool ending. For lack of a better example, it's like having sex, but never reaching your climax.
There is actually a story mode in LBP. They are keeping it under wraps, but there will be some sort of story involved. I'm not saying it's going to be ground breaking, but still. Plus there are thousands of ways to tell stories with the levels you create. They let you put text in, for one, so you could give back story to whats going on. You could imply things as well. You don't need to write it all out. They even had a trailer showing a knight sack boy rescuing a princess sack girl. Also, Bungie didn't do it first. A lot of games have had built in level editors. TimeSplitters (2/3?) had one, although I'm sure games before it did. Halo may have been the first to upload custom multiplayer maps through a console though (I don't know).
except you cant make your own items in forge, and your own gameplay mechanics, and you CAN make a story, bosses, link up levels together and an ending. So, no, no truth in his statement. and halo wasnt the first game with a level creator.
Its funny, because the biggest editors in the industry all have praised the gameplay, and here this guy hasn't even played the game and he is criticizing something he hasn't played. I'll listen to people who have actually played the game, and are reputable, before I even click on this morons articles. I don't know though, just the videos look like the game is amazingly fun. This guy must not like the simple and addictive games, because this game is just that simple addictive fun game we don't see very often in the industry anymore.
He is a poor soul who just want to get hits on his web site to get money from publicity. He will never agree with anything because of that. He will never go with the trend. I'm not even sure he ever came out of his basement. Some days, it's very hard to find an article on his web page since you have to dig through thousands of advertisement to find it. People say white and he will say black. All he does is read other websites from time to time, and put emphasis on something bad on a game, just to get more hits on his web page. This is bad because it's working. And sure enough, his opinions will always show up on OPINIONS 4 GAMERS... (Ooops, I forgot this was NEWS 4 GAMERS)
first off, i refuse to believe that you have sex Bangladesh, so in your case you not reachin a climax is your own laziness... and that will be the same with lbp. If someone does not enjoy this game it is because they are lazy. Don't like the levels? Make one you do like. Inspire people to make some in that style. Plus no story? 1. there is going to be one supposedly its just been kept under wraps and 2. has mario every had a story? not really, and this game's game play is far superior than mario game play. Also-am i the only one that actually is more excited to play than create? After watching that video of the 4 player level with the skateboard and soccer ball etc, i was dying to play. Its amazingly simple to play but creatively complex. When i saw the part where one person must jump off the soccer ball at the same time another jumps off the orange i was giddy haha.
Little Big Planet probably won't take off as big as Sony is hoping, but then again, if the controls to create are as easy as everyone has been saying, it could be huge. Look at youtube, when it started, most people thought it wouldn't work and now...
What the author of the preview is saying is that there is no point to user-created content if the basic gameplay ammounts to an average platformer. I see no reason to call the author an idiot. This guy actually played it at E3. Did you?
The thing is, is this author is the only one complaining out of the other few hundred authors who were also at e3 and almost all of them are saying LBP is set to change the way we play games for the future. If LBP can break the barrier for console games and devs also start adding user creativity into games like call of duty 4 or GTA4 can u imagine how huge of a step that would be for all console games. That would make the options for us gamers for every system an amazing feature. Imagine that for xbox 360 owners in a future halo game or future gears game where we can create our own levels or weapons or enemies to add to the expirience, and same for ps3 owners with future resistance or motorstorm or twisted metal games. Also nintendo with mario or zelda, can u imagine how awesome that would be to have user creativity in these games. Yes it is just a dream but LBP is trying to break new grounds for console gaming and show that u can do this in a console game aswell. I think it is a huge step and is a big reason why LBP is being praised everywhere.
lol go play a few games with level creators. The game has to be good before it matters. UT3 is the best looking game with an extensive level creator, it still sold poorly because the gameplay was too much like older games in the series. Do you think a game that plays like a mediocre 8 bit title is going to change the gaming world?
Unlike 90% of the people here, I've played it. It's an incredible clusterf*** for people that aren't good at controlling the game. This is not a game that will be at all fun to jump into with friends that haven't played it before. Also, plenty of games have had amazingly robust and simple creation tools, and I'd say only 10% of people take them seriously, and of that 10%, probably only 10% will be any good at it.
This guy never played it at all!!! "The character customisation and level building tools still sound amazing," Give me a break, you get a chance to play the game and don't even try building anything? Seriously, I'm pretty sure Al never came out of his basement. He just pick on anything from what he read all over the place, and make sure he get hits on his web page to get money from publicity. Sadly, it does seem to work for him, and we will still get bad opinions from him. If you believe in Al Warmington, you must also believe in Santa Claus my friend.
But when a game is marketed for it's level creator moreso than it's actual SP, then do you really think only 10% will use it? And that only 10% of those 10% will be good at it?
looks fun..but spending 400 bucks for this game? no thanks
So then why come and comment about it. Nobody cares if you not going to buy it, there plenty of other people that will.
there are more games than just Little Big Planet on the PS3 to make that $400 MORE than worth it. personally, when it comes to exclusives, i've enjoyed Resistance Motorstorm Ninja Gaiden Sigma Virtua Fighter 5 (timed exclusive, but still a damn fun game, regardless) Heavenly Sword Gran Turismo 5: Prologue Warhawk Folklore Ratchet and Clank Future Uncharted: Drake's Fortune Unreal Tournament 3 Metal Gear Solid 4 maybe not just one would be considered a "system seller" but the WHOLE group of them? most certainly. then when you factor in the quality multi-plats, there's no reason to fall back on the ol' "well, THAT one game isn't enough to get me to buy the system" excuse. the PS3 has some good stuff out there, not to mention it's other multi-media functions that add to it's value. you know, just FYI, that's all.
is it really 400 cause if it is just for a peace of software than they can keep their money
WOW I didn't know LBP was going to cost $400..../sarcasm You know there are other games out there to buy instead of LBP and if you're not gonna get it then why are you even here? You're obviously not going to buy a PS3 for any other game so really you're just an attention whore, well no one cares if you're not getting it and it's probably for the best.
I used to think the same thing as this guy, i thought that the platforming was basic and also because alot of the early videos of LBP showed mainly decorating and now innovative or deep platform level building, but after seeing the more recent video's i'm so hyped it's number 3 of my most anticipated games, after fallout and fable.
i honestly can't believe that people are actually looking forward to fallout. god that looks like the most boring game ever.
I aint suprised why people are looking forward to fallout 3. I think that is an amazing game. I mean just seeing gameplay footage and how big this world is and u get to do what u want to do in that world seems pretty awesome to me. The game that I dont see what is such a big deal is, Left 4 Dead. I see nothing special about this game. It looks like another run and gun game but full of zombies. And I see some people saying that was Game of The Show? WTF. I mean come on man, Fallout 3, LBP, Gear of War 2, Resistance 2, Far Cry 2, Crysis Warhead, Resident Evil 5, Fable 2, Spore, and Project Origin all look more impressive to me. Left 4 Dead looks more like another Counter Strike for PC but with Zombies galore. Yes that might be alot of fun and big news for them but as a console gamer that game doesnt look that special to me.
i couldn't agree more with your left 4 dead comment. as for fallout. yes i am very impressed with the world. it is huge. and it looks amazing. but as far as the game itself muuuuuaaaahhh
haters,go away lbp looks fantasic I think it will revive and redefine the 2d games
Not so sure about reviving 2d games, but redefining maybe.
plenty of people that will? for this? sure btw. Nobody cares if you not going to buy it? just like nobody cares if you praise the game..and still you do it :) have a nice week
"plenty of people that will? for this? sure" Yet you're here...
But that hasn't stopped them from selling either..
Where do I sign up to receive a m$ check in the mail for writing stuff like this?
I think he just wanted some hits, you can say you don't like it, but saying its going to bomb is kind of dumb
AKA gary's mod, AKA halo 3's forge.
This has all been done before and with limited success. On Halo 3 I rarely play Forge created levels because they usually suck. There is nothing original to LBP. Platformers with user-created content have been around for a long time. Even Excitebike on the original Nintendo had a level editor for user-created content.
Unlimited customization is the difference. Have you guys even SEEN the videos for this? You can create new ways to take down new bosses of new scale with new characters made by some guy living in Nebraska. Seriously. The game will rock!
Actually it was pretty fun creating maps in Forge but I stoped because I rarly played custom matches but you have to be crazy if you compare forge to LBP there i so much more to it.
you are comparing forge tools to this game? I suggest you go back through and watch every video that I have. To call it just a forge tool is like calling the Pacific Ocean a "pond". Seriously, if you think this game will be that limited you know nothing about it. No offense, but you should really really read up on things before you post in an article.
the gameplay is the same. you build things, then play them. I doubt you can turn this game into an FPS, but in halo's forge you could make a platformer/sports game/ puzzle game etc. it's the same mechanic, except this one uses sack-boys and purdy graphics. I never said forge was as deep as LBP, it's not, neither is gary's mod, but this game is nothing special, and it's nothing new.
You don't just drop stuff into a map, you can actually create things. The possibilities are truly endless. It isn't like forge, where you drop some objects on a map. You can actually design each object you place. It's not like Forge at all. Seriously, go watch some videos of it. You can choose not to like it, but your comparison is poor. I'm glad they're trying something new, and this is honestly number 1 on my must buy list.
First of all, the forge did provide halo players with some really fun levels, like hammerball or whatever that game was ie. But this game is designing in 2-D. Theres an article on lbpcentral.com-its under 'scanned' on the side, its a magazine article all about lbp. In the article the developers are interviewed and a main point is that 3-d design is too complex usually for casual users. The best created games and maps in halo and such are always incredibly simple. This is because 3-D is too much freedom too much or a "blank slate" they refer to in the article. This is 2-d so you can be as creative as you want, but simple enough to prevent too much crap being half created then given up on. To be honest, its ridiculous the people keep saying "other games have had level creators before" THEY WERE EXTRA. an added bonus so after you beat the game maybe you had something else to try. This game is BASED on creation, its not just a sideshow. If anything the premade levels take a back seat. They arent just going to throw crap at you. Clearly the developers and Sony thought about this before investing so much money and time into it jeez.
A lot of ghost disagreeing here. Trolls be gone! Yu Mo Gwai Gwaai Fai Di Zao
Never thought I'd see a Jackie Chan Adventures reference in here, but...beautiful, sir...just plain beautiful! Bubbles!
Somebody noticed lmao. Must vanquish the trolls with my CHI.
Niice Jackie Chan reference. One Mooore thing.... bubbles
...xDDDD Jackie Chan FTW.
Someone makes a game other than "Shoot. Kill. Repeat." Am I only the only gamer a bit bored of all the kill kill kill games? Ah well, to each his own I guess.
Basic? It takes all the tools every good platform-creator has ever used and made them into one easy-to-use kit. Within the first week, we will see recreations of every Mario, Donkey Kong, and Castlevania level ever made! Can you imagine playing through some of the greatest levels EVER and being able to go into each one of them with depth unimaginable by today's standers? That's what LBP is about! It's about originality in a world where there is none! You take an idea and you expand on it! Think about it, guys! It's not that complicated! This is the game every platform lover has always wished for!
yeah exactly. The scary thing is I am well aware that we can create EVERYTHING in any Castlevania, Mario, or donkey kong level.
you guys crack me up.
That was from Jackie Chan cartoon right. Wow i cant belive i still remember that. edit: ahhh LeonSKenney4Life beat me to it.
Yes it was haha. Best lines other then that Ai ya Uncle always say when he's disappointed.
did he say "there isn't much you can do with them"? those words don't belong in LBP
from what have seen lbp is innovative,no game has allowed u to do this before and it is really simple from the videos have seen just put it this way; ur a mini game dev. i like what i have seen so far and i am bying this game when it comes out,people opinions are different and this gy is has his own.
well, I guess we will just have to wait and watch all the user videos pop up on YouTube to shut all of the haters up. I am quite sure some lonely dude is going to make the complete original mario game brick for brick that i can play with sackboy and I will love him for it. Er how about Castlevania? From what I have seen there is nothing done in these platformers that cant be realistically recreated using these tools. I mean have you guys seen the videos? You can create aligators from scratch using pivot points and cut out tools, with an "AI chip" that you place on the aligator to make him go. I just dont get the people who think we are going to have like two types of blocks to work with and two types of textures. I mean you can take a picture with your camera of carpet, take that picture wrap it around a spong in the game and use that as carpet in the game. you can put any two things together and make a brand new thing. How about making an entire "dark knight" level including real pictures from the movie? Make an end boss The Joker and have different minigames within the level? People need to start realizing how much effort went into allowing people to combine just about anything and then realize when you combine that with actual imgainations you have something pretty special.
mario always controlled very well, core gameplay is important. You cant just throw a level creator into a game and make it awesome. Level creators aren't a new thing, stop pretending like they are.
I'm sorry man, but do you honestly think we don't know it won't play like those games? It will be SIMILAR but not the same. This game won't only comprise of game levels by the way, so stop acting like those are the only things the game has going for it.
well, that is not true. Maybe LBP can't provide game play like GodoW or R&C series, but in return it provide great liberty on level design and character customization. Though I believe the game will experience lots of challenges from the complexes online co-op, level design and online level sharing, I still going to buy it just to play many talent gamers' level creation.
LittleBigPlanet will deliver. I am more hyped about LBP than Killzone 2 and God of War 3 combined. Those who can foresee the potential of this game will enjoy it. Imagine every hit 2d platformer recreated within LBP. Only haters with no imagination and no creativity diss LBP.
I totally agree. Really all I need is this game, and the next Team ICO game and I would be totally happy with Playstation for this generation.
...Okay, I don't know what they were watching but this game looks amazing. Seriously, why the hatred for this game? People are already judging the game and it's not out yet. I've seen gameplay in most of the videos and it looks pretty nice. Sad people in this world...*shakes head* And look at the disagree buttons slammed from left to right! Slamming disagree buttons without logical comments is becoming a favorite on this site isn't it? I frankly do not care, because my feelings for this game has not changed.
on a forum full of sony lovers, but its a valid opinion. So far the gameplay looks very clunky and non-intuitive. Edit: if you disagree atleast have a reason, go play a few pc games and realize a dull game with a level creator is still a dull game.
In what way? Please list them. You're just hating on the game because it's a Playstation 3 game. The game looks incredibly cute and very interesting. I'm picking this game up most definitely. @ Yes I watched gameplay. Just because you don't like the game, doesn't mean it's clunky. This doesn't look like a game you should really underestimate.
It looks like the devs are drunk while they are playing... either they are in fact drunk or the game is clunky. By the way, I am a playstation/pc owner, just not a fanboy. Resistance 2 looks awesome, LBP looks like a psn game. Edit: all the disagrees but nobody has a valid point as to why they disagree. Like I said before, go pick up a pc game with a level creator. There are plenty that have awesome core gameplay.
if the gameplay was bad? i disagreed with you