TechDaring: "I have said numerous times on these pages that Sony has amassed such a lead that I just cannot see Microsoft being able to catch the PlayStation 4, no matter what happens."
It won't equal ps4 numbers simply because XB1 doesn't sell well enough outside of NA and UK but I expect they'll sell a lot more XB1's this fall than PS4's which will allow them to reduce the gap to a degree. Also, XB1 is releasing exclusives all throughout 2016 instead of just the fall so that should also helm them next year. And by the end of this gen, we'll probably see them neck and neck in NA and UK or MS has a good shot at reclaiming these territories
Problem is, MS can sell better for 3 months, but the gap will get bigger again for the next 9 months.
In the US, yes.
And even then it's not like the PS4 miraculously stop selling. When the Xbox does good the ps4 is just as good which won't lead to it catching up. The other way is for the ps4 to stop selling well which at the rate is going is doubtful
Never say never. We're less than 2 years in and I expect these consoles will last at least another 3. Home consoles aren't what they used to be for Japan and Microsoft is doing a lot to earn good favor in the US and UK. Will it happen? I don't know. It's really, really, really, really, very much so unlikely Xbox One will EVER catch PlayStation 4 in sales. Sony already had this generation, it would appear. Regardless, all I'm saying is.....It's possible, however miniscule the odds.
PS4 may seem that has nt any major exclusives for the rest of 2015... but games like MGS-V (and afterwards FFXV) which are multiplatform, the overwhelming majority of gamers(even in US)are considering them as Playstation titles ..they are atypical exclusives which will boost no matter what PS4 sales..and dont underestimate the popularity and the quality of MGS V as it easily beats any of the big guns of Xone
any xbox one sale theoretically eats into ps4 sales. it is good however that microsoft is shipping big games outside of the holiday window now such as quantum break. their presence at gamescon will hopefully boost sales in europe as well. what sony could do to counter this holiday onslaught by microsoft is to just have a price drop. but i don't think sony will, they feel way too comfortable and this will allow microsoft to gain some traction.
Possible in the the U.S. but still unlikely. Just too far behind. And this is not a PS3 story. It took 6-7 years for PS3 to close that gap with hardly any advantages at all. More expensive, less public appeal in U.S. and other counties, lower failure rate, "less games" stigma, "inferior" online infrastructure, Not the home of shooting franchises during the initial shooters boom, Advertised horribly until later years yet still managed to outsell 360 week after week month after month works wide. To close a 9 mil gap head start 360 had. This is a different age, doubt this can happen twice .
@dboy It's not a miracle, it's called market saturation and is a well documented phenomenon (see: Wii).
We don't know yet. Anything can happen. PS3 caught up last gen. It depends on games. It really does. It will be awhile b/c while Xbone may gain a little this holiday, early next yr is gonna be good for Sony w/ Uncharted 4. Also, Persona 5 is a dark horse this holiday for Sony if it releases as its supposed to. I know I can't wait. And it's huge everywhere but here.
PS3 caught up last gen not only because of games but because The "Playstation" Brand is more preferred outside of U.S.A, Europe and Asia prefers playstation since PSone came out. The only way the entire world will switch to Xbox is when Sony Stops producing PLaystation consoles. The statement should be, "MS had a chance last gen but still beaten by PS3, how much more with the PS4 sales lead today"?? remember MS had a "1 year headstart" and PS3 is much more expensive. So don't put Sony and MS on the same train. one company is making consoles and videogames since 1995 and the other just started in 2001-2002.
Ps3 caught up because Playstation is the worlds favourite console. Don't forget the 360 had a year headstart AND the Ps3 launch was a disaster. No, Xbox has no chance of winning this gen or any other, not while it's competing with a Playstation.
The PS3 caught up buy outselling the 360 for almost every year of the generation. You can can't catch up until you can start selling more than your competition.
besides halo the rest of the games are meh.....even halo gotta deal with cod.
I wouldn't say "meh". But, most of them are pretty much standard at this point in MS release cycle.
I wouldn't call Quantum Break meh (actually is one of the most exciting games coming in 2016) but its no Uncharted for sure. As for the xbox catching up to the PS4 I would call that a statistical improbability as things have turned out. Couple that with a ps4 price cut or a slim model then you have a runaway train that doesn't look back.
2016 does look awesome for first party on both consoles but unfortunate as it may be third party is running this gen so far.
Microsoft is making all of the right moves This fall Xbox One will sell like crazy and 2016's lineup is insane
they're only recently making the right moves while sony has been making the right moves since the beginning of this gen.
no never ps4 has sold 26 million and not only that just way ahead now it to late for the xbox one to catch the ps4 plus in japanit would need to supportt xbox one but its not happening ps4 has this gen locked
Will the Xbox1 eat PS4 sales!? No! But I'll put the popcorn next to the microwave just in case. I don't understand why it's hard to imagine that truthfully the Xbox1 can't eat into the competitors sales, neither can the PS4 eat into the Xbox1 sales simply because they are two different consoles with totally different exclusives. This is the determination as to what ultimately sets any console apart from another, not what multiplat title that's available on all consoles in competition. This has been the reasoning as to why in past generations a large amount of gamers have chosen to have multiple consoles because there were simply other games that they wanted to play that weren't necessarily on the platform they initially chose to buy. That same mindset will repeat the process once again this generation.
MS is heavily relying on exclusives this fall with Halo leading the pack while Sony is heavily relying on marketing strategy with games like Battlefront and Call of Duty. Its gonna be interesting to see how this works
Microsoft can improve X1's fortunes greatly, but there's nothing they can do to establish its dominance over PS4's worldwide marketshare.
I think it will and it will begin with halo 5, TR and the gears remake this year and that is just breakfast we haven't even gotten to dessert yet. Right now the xbox looks more attractive as a true gaming console with tons of variety than any other console at the moment. I am really excited to be an owner of an xbox great times ahead. I am not seeing much effort from sony in providing AAA experiences like MS are especially for this year sony isn't even trying. They wont even include multiplayer in their best AAA exclusive game releasing this year which is the UC collection I mean wtf.
Xbox has halo but Sony also has marketing rights for Star wars and Black ops 3 and we all know how these marketing deals have done wornder for the sale of Ps4's around the world. Destiny, arkham knight bundled with ps4 sold really well and you can only imagine the numbers when the Mgs5, star wars and blackops bundle come out.
I literally cringe when I read things like this, how will any true gamer be sated by marketing rights?? Let's forget sales for a minute, how are marketing rights suppose to make up for a lack of true AAA exclusives for your fanbase to enjoy. It is great for Sony but not so much for their fans.
Sony 2015 1st party The Order 1886 MLB 15 Bloodborne Tearaway God Of War 3 Uncharted Collection Until Dawn MS 1st party Gears of war HD Halo 5 Forza 6 Fable Legends Rare replay Scream ride 3rd party PS4 exclusives Akiba's trip Disgaea 5 Disney Infinity 3.0 PlayStation systems exclusive edition Dragon quest Heroes Dynasty Warriors 8 Empires Final fantasy Heavensward FF X/ X-2 Godzilla oneechanbara Omega Quintet One Piece Pirate Warrior 3 Persona 5 SF IV Swordart Online Lost Song Jump Victory Vs Saint Seiya Souls Tales of Zestiria Talos Pronciple Earth Defece Force 4.1 Yakuza 5 Yeah there are so few exclusives on PS4 compared to Xbone
It's funny how money-hatting became "marketing rights" this gen.
I also find it funny that you hate sony ( based on your comment history) but you religiously troll every PlayStation article. Its actually quite amusing.
I've been a fan of Sony since the original was announced. I'm not a fan of Sony's hardcore fans that treat the Playstation like a religion and condemn all other platforms and gamers. You can't even hold a conversation with them since they are incapable of backing up their position and simply make personal attacks. I appreciate you know how to look at history. Why not take a look over the past few years where Microsoft was accused of money hatting when they secured marketing rights or exclusives and were considered the bane of gaming. Now that Sony is back in full swing it's "investing" or "securing marketing rights". Just look at how many Playstation gamers are against free backwards compatibility. Maybe Sony would offer something similar if Sony fans spent less time trying to tear Xbox down and more time asking for features that are actually very nice to have and much more pro-gamer than being charged. By the way, you are a typical Sony fan when you come to an article titled "Will the Xbox One eat PS4 Sales?" and call it a Sony article. There is no "P" in n4g even though it's implied only Playstation owners are gamers.
Rabid Xbox fans are as much a problem as Playstion fans. If you want to gauge how much Xbox fans are outnumbered here, simply look at the agrees and disagrees. As for morons on youtube, it's not a place I prefer to hang out. You guys are the ones I see everyday since 2007.
"It's funny because I find your comment funny" you say it's not a place your prefer to hang out but here you are on N4G, a full grown mountain troll defending his beloved console, brethren and company with all his might.
xbox will never catch ps4 in sales.sony would have to move on when ps5 comes out.but we know how sony supports their systems for years before they discontinue selling hardware. and fruitjuice,you are talking to a brick wall.death knows hes a fanboy.hes cleaned up his act somewhat because of those bubbles,but don't let him fool you.he was a major fanboy last gen just like all the rest of the 360 fanboys.hes just more intelligent about it. you will always see him negative in a sony article.but you will see him always positive in an xbox article.he will never call out an xbox fanboy because he is one. what i love,is that the ps4 was so good,he had no choice but to buy one.if sony fans and xbox fans didn't speak up,xbox one would have been a tremendous failure.so,he should be thanking us for getting microsoft back on the gamer path. remember fruitjuice...brick wall.
I haven't been here in months and I see nothing has changed. Everything Death said is right. I used to like Playstation but their completely illogical fans have really turned me off to it. They're more like a cult than anything. They're completely brainwashed and most of them have atrocious grammar (see above for examples.) It makes talking to them maddeningly unproductive.
Keep in mind I didn't want Microsoft to reverse the initial proposal. The ability to rip your games without disc based DRM would have been a big step forward for gamers. Remote access to your game library, the ability to loan out digital copies and the ability to still own the game and trade it was a good thing. Microsoft wasn't able to convey their message properly and many, many people were incredibly ignorant and couldn't understand what they were actually getting. You need only look at what is going on with Windows 10 integration to see what might have been. Remote access to every game we own without a disc in the drive would be very cool. p.s. thanks for proving my point Freddy.
there is nothing illogical about anything.sony has the momentum and there is nothing releasing on xbox one that i see that will change that momentum. do you somehow believe microsoft will storm japan,china,europe,etc with something magical that will overtake sony?get real. kinect wont.BC wont.hololens wont because it wont be cheap.having a lower price hasnt either.giving away games didnt work.you somehow think their western focus will give them the east? whos being illogical?
@Death I find it funny that EVERY article you make it seem like marketing rights for major games is all PlayStation has when they have more 1st and 3rd party exclusives along with those marketing deals. Sony 2015 1st party The Order 1886 MLB 15 Bloodborne Tearaway God Of War 3 Uncharted Collection Until Dawn MS 1st party Gears of war HD Halo 5 Forza 6 Fable Legends Rare replay Scream ride 3rd party PS4 exclusives Akiba's trip Disgaea 5 Disney Infinity 3.0 PlayStation systems exclusive edition Dragon quest Heroes Dynasty Warriors 8 Empires Final fantasy Heavensward FF X/ X-2 Godzilla oneechanbara Omega Quintet One Piece Pirate Warrior 3 Persona 5 SF IV Swordart Online Lost Song Jump Victory Vs Saint Seiya Souls Tales of Zestiria Talos Principle Earth Defece Force 4.1 Yakuza 5 Let's just ignore facts though because it suits your argument right?!
I have never said Microsoft would overtake Sony. They do not have the worldwide presence in gaming to do it. There is no historical data to even indicate it is possible. Sony has outsold Microsoft on a worldwide basis annually every year. Do I think Xbox One can overtake PS4 in North America? There is a very good chance that can happen, but it isn't a given. UK is a possible country that can see Xbox One sales overcome PS4 sales too. Outside of these, it's incredibly doubtful. Playstation fans are the ones obsessed with domination. It's like they have the need to be number one to justify their purchase. I have just as much fun playing on the Wii with my kids as I do on my Xbox or Playstation. I learned long ago console sales don't make a game any more or less fun. @Chevalier, Bloodborne and The Order were made by From and Ready at Dawn. Neither studio is owned by Sony. Sony gave them a bunch of money to make the games. Last gen that was called money-hatting when Microsoft did it. You are actually calling it a first party game. In truth they are first party games created by a second party or independent studio. Once again though, when Microsoft did this it was somehow "bad" in Playstation fans eyes.
@death "Bloodborne and The Order were made by From and Ready at Dawn. Neither studio is owned by Sony. Sony gave them a bunch of money to make the games." Sir, do u watch the devs interview?? or you simply like to make up your own... Bloodborne was entirely Sony's project . The publisher was Sony computers Entertainment and From Software made it clear it was Sony's idea and they came up to them and asked them to work on it.. So that doesn't make BB a third party game... Now coming back to The Order 1886 was developed by Ready at Dawn and Santa Monica Studio and published by Sony Computer Entertainment.. Again i dont see how its a third party game. RAD did work on PS VITA games... So next time come up with real facts..
Just because they publish it, doesn't mean it's 1st party. They need to OWN the studios. That's what 1st party is. Publishing is irrelevant.
@ Death "Just look at how many Playstation gamers are against free backwards compatibility. Maybe Sony would offer something similar if Sony fans spent less time trying to tear Xbox down" I wouldn't call those people Sony fans. If they were, they would want Sony's console to be better than it is and no can deny that free compatibility would make the PS4 better.
Death - Xbox fans are just as disrespectful of Sony and the PS4 and an element of racism also comes into it. There is no need for any fanboyism by supporters of either console yet the tit-for-tat behaviour goes on.
@Death "Bloodborne and The Order were made by From and Ready at Dawn. Neither studio is owned by Sony" Uh what?! Bloodborne was a coproduction between SCE Japan and From Software and also published by Sony. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/... The Order 1886 was a coproduced game between SCE Santa Monica and Ready At Dawn https://en.m.wikipedia.org/... Whereas Quantum Break https://en.m.wikipedia.org/... Remedy studios - Private company not owned by MS Scalebound https://en.m.wikipedia.org/... Platinum studio's - private company not owned by MS Recore https://en.m.wikipedia.org/... Both Concept and Armature neither owned by MS Are these 3 IP's not owned by MS then? Because by your logic they aren't. You know what else is funny?! Sony OWNS both Ratchet and Clank as well as Resistance IP's https://en.m.wikipedia.org/... Yet Sony has Never owned Insomniacs. There have been 6 developers that have done R&C games for Sony.
Rattlehead20 "Just because they publish it, doesn't mean it's 1st party. They need to OWN the studios. That's what 1st party is. Publishing is irrelevant" What are you talking about? I mean the idea and game concept is totally Sonys and they approached From Software therefore Sony has every right to make it theirs .. I can name dozen of games which aren't 1ST Party to MS but still releasing games for xbox1 only... Today you come up with an idea and you want someone else to work on it does that mean you are irrelevant...?? Please be logical
with tomb raider,halo 5 and forza 6 xbox one will dominate the fall and winter.
Over Call of Duty, Battlefront, and Fallout 4 (all of which will do better on the PS4)? No. And none of what the X1 has for the Fall will help it gain much, overall, traction on the PS4, especially any place outside of the United States, and maybe, the UK. Those two regions, as proven time and again, simply won't be enough. As I continue to say, Microsoft (and their fanatics - key word) should just be happy with a healthy 2nd place. Remember what things looked like prior to their turnarounds/about faces? Had they launched with all of that stuff, the only thing this machine would have been eating is the entirety of the Xbox brand. Be happy it isn't in said position.
Xbox is seemingly getting the better games, so it should, but it probably won't. The PS4 is like the Iphone, it is not necessarily the best product on the market, but it sells tons because it is a quality product that also benefits from HYPE and marketing. The PS4 really benefited from the PS3's reputation for having highly rated exclusives. I think the only way Microsoft catches the PS4 is if they develop good first party titles and they get some third party developers to release exclusives on Xbox One much like PS3 had.
Okay, okay, sure, sure, tho in case of the X1 and PS4, PS4 does have the better hardware, as for games, well, there are plenty of great games for both but it depends on your personal tastes which you prefer... Me personally I just want them all :)
Yeah when people say Xbox is getting the better games what they mean is Xbox is getting the heavy hitter exclusives like Quantam Break, Gears Ultimate, Gears 4, Halo 5, Scalebound, Rise of Tomb Raider, Forza 6, Crackdown etc. The only real heavy hitters exclusives PS4 is getting is Horizon and Uncharted 4, Street Fighter V, and The Last Guardian.
Heavy Hitters? Some of those Xb1 games are being hyped, but are niche or follow games that didn't even sell that well. Cling to that hope. Only Gears / Halo have a hope of shifting systems. Rest are not hardware movers.
So let me get this right, Gears Ultimate is a "heavy hitter", but The Nathan Drake Collection isn't? Not sure I follow. Beyond that, you missed quite a few games, from both sides, but particularly for PS4. Why ignore games like Neir 2, Star Ocean 5, and Persona 5? Simply because they'll do better in Japan than anywhere else? It's cherry picking like I've ever seen it. Don't people get that the reason the PS4 is ahead, particularly by such an amount, is because of the ability to appeal to a worldwide audience? Until that fact sinks in, Xbox fanatics will never understand why their favorite brand never wins a generation.
Gears Ultimate is actually a TRUE remaster like The Master Chief Collection, not just an upscaled port like The Nathan Drake Collection and God of War III remastered. The graphics and cutscenes in Gears were completely redone and they also added multiplayer modes along with an extended campaign. They completely removed multiplayer from The NDC. That is why Gears is considered a heavy hitter and those PS3 remasters aren't.
No, when people say Xbox is getting the better games what they mean is that the Xbox is getting the games they like more. Or, they just want to believe really hard the games for the PS4 are not to their liking, that probably happens too. It's all just a matter of taste. PS. And don't forget, Sony will have more press conferences this year, they have a whole bunch of first party studios working on unannounced games. You really think that when the PS3 had more first party exclusives than the X360 because Sony has more studios, that now suddenly that is not the case?
The Uncharted games are also "true" remasters, so there's that. In fact, the exact definition of a Remaster is covered in both The Nathan Drake Collection AND Gears of War: Ultimate. You can try to shape shift the meaning all you want. Changes nothing. The degree of a remaster doesn't alter that it is, indeed, a remaster. It is an increase in sound quality, visual quality, or both. Nevertheless, it sounds like, outside of strong opinion, you have nothing to combat the facts I've presented to you. Thus, we have nothing left to discuss.
For the love of god does call Rise of Tomb Raider an XBOX1 exclusive.... Its coming on the PS4 too...
actually Microsoft are better then SONY at the marketing stuff, just look at the Halo 5 trailers, clips etc... Thats one area MS does really well. No, I disagree, PS4 benefited because of Xbox One reveal, Don Mattrick effect and its launch price. This fall will decide if Xbox One can indeed catch PS4 with Halo 5, the biggest MS exclusive to release this year.
The PS4 has as many games as the Xbox if not more. True, Microsoft has 4 major exclusives releasing this winter but Sony also has plenty of other games, Japanese, indies and multiplats that will do just fine. You seem to forget that Xbox has had NO AAA release at all this year so far and won't until September. The PS4 has had 4 in that time. This is not hype!
No the Xbox will eat something else...
Doritos and mountain dew probably, Oh and Pizza XD
Sounds like it needs to slim down a bit. No wonder the system is so fat especially with that diet. LOL ;)
I don't think so
"Will my uncle become the next king of england"?
First.. he has to move to England.
How can anyone still support Microsoft after this video was released last month? https://www.youtube.com/wat... "Totally can't be used as mass surveillance or anything"
Media have always tried to help MS out. Must be all the freebie consoles and Live they gave journos last gen. Some of these games being hyped do not look special at all
This is BS man .
I hope so!!!
In the US or UK there is a possibility but world wide is another story altogether.