Early numbers are looking good for Windows 10's uptake amongst gamers. 2.3% of users on Steam are already using Windows 10 - proving more popular than any single version of Mac OSX, and more than any of the Linux OSes combined.
I am loving Windows 10
So far so good for me. I initially had an issue being caused by 2010 and 2012 C++ redistributables, but nothing a quick re-install didn't fix. Works flawlessly so far.
Damm that was quick...Windows 10 really is a very good user friendly OS, Im enjoying the Xbox One streaming app the most.
yeah windows 10 is pretty dope.
Has it actually been released yet - or is it still just the beta. I'd like to buy it and replace my macs win 8 bootcamp with win 10
It was released on July 29th.
still waiting for mine to come
Use this link to install it right now. This is what I used and it worked perfect. You can also get an ISO if you want to do a clean install in the future. https://www.microsoft.com/e...
Wait....it's out now ? Since when ?
Depends where you're living you'll probably get it before 2 weeks. Unless you want to get it unoptimized.
Wll that relieves some tension for me on my ongoing decision to upgrade or not
Good job Microsoft. Loving the user experience of windows 10. Reminds me of how awesome XP was when is first dropped.
The take over.
never going back to windows
Sucks for you.
windows sucks. Linux ftw
Enjoy not being able to play a lot of games on PC! I like Linux and use it a lot for server environment, but desktop and pc use, it is mostly Windows.
Linux is nice in some ways, but the game support is pretty abysmal compared to Windows.
Happy I switched.
I'm just waiting to see the legal & security repercussions after the dust settles of it being new runs off.
I'm, less than impressed with it so far
Well duh. Mac and Linux aren't exactly known as the ultimate Gaming Platforms. W10 IS free so I'd expect that number to go up quickly once it rolls out to everyone.
Of course, it's not like these are *new* Windows installs. They're just updates to the latest version of Windows. So, yeah, "duh". But things are changing. Borderlands 2, Shadow of Mordor, Metro 2033 & Last Light - playing on Linux. Even Arkham Knight is announced for Linux. Companies are porting majr games *already*. And then there's the big deal - the new Vulkan API. Even closer to the metal than DirectX 12. Vulkan drivers will be *vastly* simpler than OpenGL or Direct3D drivers. Cross-platform development will be even simpler, and higher-performance. Windows 10 growing - to be expected, especially when Microsoft is literally using your desktop to advertise it. Linux (and even Mac) growing - also to be expected, and instead of Windows. Gaming's really the only thing *left* that Windows had a real advantage anymore, and the outlook for that advantage isn't good.
Since when is MAC and Linux a huge player in PC gaming? Kind of redundant article.
@Gwiz While what you stated is true, on the same Token..that statement you just pointed out is one of the very core reasons why Microsoft's attempts to really grow the Windows OS base past the PC industry has pretty much stifles Microsoft's chances to do so. Its not that , its not a good product or any thing like that, its the very core fact, Microsoft's Move of trying to put Windows Os, and its DirectX Api into the living room, was designed to kill competition, not foster it. Example: what main OS is all games made for for the PC markets? And what main Api do they also Use? The Consumer electronics industry does not want the game console market turned into another PC MARKET, WHERE only really one OS and Api is really the only one used because its got pretty much a Monopoly to dictate a software gateway. I mean yes you have many types of Hardware for PC, but its really not any competition, if every one of those devices is running the same OS. That's why Microsoft has had for the past 15 years such troubles trying to change this market. And I'm pretty sure its still going to continue. Trying to change this market into just another "windows OS" monopoly is really the core reason, its not really the product the Xbox one is a fantastic system, but its being used as a lever to put Windows Os into the living room. IE: a Media center PC. Which is at its very core the main problem, there already is a market for that its called a PC! The Game console Market was made as designed to be an alternative to the PC markets for electronic gaming. This is not just a perception problem, its the clear moves Microsoft, as reasons why hardware companies that Makes TV are putting into the TV an Open source OS, that OS is Android. For this very reason why, the consumer electronics market does not want a monopoly repeat of the PC market with a proprietary OS designed, developed, distributed by only one company with that large % as it has been in the PC industry. Again think about what you just pointed out, is the very reason why Microsoft's direction has been troubled the entire way on a world wide market. Some would say let the consumers decide, right? Well in 15 years they clearly have, hey things can change no doubt, but as for Microsoft's dream of making the console market just another extension of the Windows OS's and DirectX Api Monopoly.. Well Chance's are not good in my opinion.
I'm not here to discuss what the industry giants want, because it is sort of UN-interresting to discuss it. Why? Because very player do not want to rely on another player, but they want others to rely on them. This is the game! However, consumers want competition, but they also want predictability. That is why we have a console market, despite the intense competition and as open as gaming has ever been on PC. The fact that we now have Mac and Linux as gaming platforms is a huge step forward, but do we really need it? Games as it is can and is being developed with different hardware, different software engines and even different platform if you want that. DirectX monopoly? There is a reason why developers are jumping on DX12. It is because, they themselves have issues with doing what DX12 can do for you as a developer out of the box! Why re-invent the wheel, just to get the wheel?
@donthate Oh' brother, you just stated "However, consumers want competition, but they also want predictability." We want competition right..but predicability.. As long as its just Microsoft's OS and Api right? "You with this statement already are implying such, because you just said consumers want competition in the market, but than you go on to say this. "There is a reason why developers are jumping on DX12. It is because, they themselves have issues with doing what DX12 can do for you as a developer out of the box! Why re-invent the wheel, just to get the wheel?" Again it's absolutely Arrogant to think that DirectX12 is the only wheel as you imply that matter's. Why re-invent the, wheel to get the wheel.. I don't know maybe that new invented wheel may just be better! You just proved my point very well about exactly why, Microsoft's troubles in this market is not ending any time Soon. Because despite many on here that think otherwise, the consumers electronics market is not like the PC market is for Microsoft's ability to dictate what OS gets the Priority for software made for devices being their OS getting the lions share along with using their own DirectX Api to shut out other OS's from getting even a chance for main third party game engine support so as to even get games made for those other OS's in the Market. You say consumer's want competition, but your implying that they just only want one OS, and that's Window's, and as I pointed out , that's not working in this part of the market, the past 15 years have proven that without a shadow of a doubt! And again your deflection still does not change the blunt truth of what I stated, the market in the consumer electronics industry does not want a repeat of turning another market into another branch of another companies monopoly. You say its uninteresting, but it still does not change the fact what I stated was completely true! Perfect Example: sovkhan + 1h ago I laughed when i realize that the competition they were talking about was Macos and Linux...As if the two were real competitors in the pc gaming market!!! What a joke!!! Do you think companies like Nintendo and Sony see that as a joke what Microsoft did to other OS challengers in the PC market, how about Google or Apple with their Smartphone OS's pretty much not only inside smartphones, tablets, but now a main OS going right into the TV itself is Googles Android OS!
"We want competition right..but predicability.. As long as its just Microsoft's OS and Api right?" Consumers don't really care, they want what is easiest for them. That is Windows, because everything else runs on Windows already including their day-to-day applications. For instance, most do not want Windows on the phone. Not because it is any worse or better, but simply because they are invested into either iOS or Android. You can still have Vulkan or DX12 or whatever on Windows. "Again it's absolutely Arrogant to think that DirectX12 is the only wheel as you imply that matter's. Why re-invent the, wheel to get the wheel.." I was talking more about the OS. The difference in OS isn't staggering, and in fact many cases things are well tested and perform better on Windows, because work has already been done to optimize it. "You just proved my point very well about exactly why, Microsoft's troubles in this market is not ending any time Soon." What troubles? MS is doing really well right now. Windows 10 is a huge success, and DX12 is making massive gains in performance. Developers are talking about making DX12 the minimum requirement. I am sure there are things to improve, but I'm not seeing the problem here? "You say consumer's want competition, but your implying that they just only want one OS, and that's Window's, and as I pointed out , that's not working in this part of the market, the past 15 years have proven that without a shadow of a doubt!" What has it proven? I don't see much has changed despite the massive effort of Valve and others to try and break MS OS monopoly. MS still pushes the boundaries of OS with every release. "the market in the consumer electronics industry does not want a repeat of turning another market into another branch of another companies monopoly" Companies want what they can make money on. Valve started to complain about MS when MS wanted a unified store for games threatening Steam. Valve didn't complain before. Heck, Valve tried to enter the console market and that didn't work out to well either. In fact, Valve's failure with SteamOS shows the opposite that consumers don't want a limited OS to just play games on. It is free, but nobody really cares. Same thing with Linux movement. Nothing has changed in a decades, and here we are MS pushing the envelope with DX12. Vulkan will soon start copying DX12. "You say its uninteresting, but it still does not change the fact what I stated was completely true!" I'm having trouble comprehending what you are writing. You actually haven't said much, so I would appreciate if you condense it, and be succint. I'm listening, but you got to give me something. "Do you think companies like Nintendo and Sony see that as a joke what Microsoft did to other OS challengers in the PC market, how about Google or Apple with their Smartphone OS's pretty much not only inside smartphones, tablets, but now a main OS going right into the TV itself is Googles Android OS!" What are you talking about? Be specific and clear. After this I will have to respond to you over PM since I'm out of bubbles.
So much for that forgotten Steam OS.
I laughed when i realize that the competition they were talking about was Macos and Linux...As if the two were real competitors in the pc gaming market!!! What a joke!!!
I wonder how this will affect Steam Machines
@JasonKCK Effect steam machines, like How? Slow Adoption Rate?, if so most likely for the store bought ones, but since its More about Steam OS being able to be downloaded for 100% free and loadable on any PC that meets the physical requirements, I doubt it would effect the adoption rate at all since its 100% free OS anyway! That's the Thing what Valve has done for Linux OS is turn it into a Linux version of a Game OS with solid GPU driver and the most standard 3rd party Game engine's now Supporting Vulkan Api, which Valve helped build. Along with their source engine being updated both OS's pretty much will not effect the outcome on support. Due to the fact, Vulkan as an Api is not just for one platform holders Only made OS like DirectX is for Microsoft's system OS. While Vulkan can run not just on Windows, but Linux, Mac, Android, smartphone, smart TV's, game consoles that are not just made by one company. The Vulkan Api is built like DirectX 12 but for cross platform. Right now Vulkan Api is running on Android 5.0 on the PowerVR series GPU's. So with Steam OS its not so much about it vs Windows OS, its more about an alternative to windows Eco system. Where non Windows Based OS devices talk to each other in network DNLA like windows does with windows OS,Windows Phone, surface and Xbox.
Everything works as intended, and the ram management is really good, it will actually use all your ram when gaming instead of spitting out errors when you have over a gig left.
updated my W7 to W10,tested it,performance went down,and i am going back to W7.
Really? All the benchmarks I have seen says it is better performance wise than 7 or 8.
Windows 10 is the Xbox Platform's trump card. It's the key to mass adoption.
Of course, Win10 is free. Now whether it is any good is a totally different subject.
@donthate You state this: "In fact, Valve's failure with SteamOS shows the opposite that consumers don't want a limited OS to just play games on. It is free, but nobody really cares." Oh for Pete freaking sake it failed? How the hell has Steam Os; failed when it has not even a commercial released yet! Its still in freaking Beta... Again: SteamOS Beta is here We've been hard at work to deliver on our promise of a new kind of living room entertainment environment - one that is accessible, powerful and open. In making the SteamOS Beta available to you, we're excited to take the next major step towards that goal. But before you dive in, please take a few minutes to understand what SteamOS Beta is and what it is not (yet). http://store.steampowered.c... Again you state this: "Same thing with Linux movement. Nothing has changed in a decades, and here we are MS pushing the envelope with DX12. Vulkan will soon start copying DX12. " Really? Nothing has changed in decades? You stated this: "For instance, most do not want Windows on the phone. Not because it is any worse or better, but simply because they are invested into either iOS or Android." You and others really do not get it it seems what has happened in the past few decades..remember the PDA..you know the palm OS..remember what Microsoft did in 1997? Microsoft combined the WinCe platform with a phone and coined the smartphone from 2000 to 2006 Microsoft had over 90% of all smartphone aside from early blackberry and palm OS based phones, the #1 OS for smartphones was a Windows based OS, you do know what happened in the following year right? Both Apple and Google broke that OS dominance in the portable smartphone market in under 3 years! Now instead of a Windows based OS running direct on Smart TV's they are running Android, instead of a Wintel alliance running the Show like Intel and Microsoft has in the PC market ,Like they have for decades in the PC market its Arm powered SOC's. In the consumer Electronics market for the #1 OS, Right now what do you think most of the consumer electronics OS and Api is using? I can tell you this for certain its not a windows Api or a Windows based OS! Why do you think Valve , Samsung, Epic Games , Unity3D and many more companies have all made game engines now supporting Vulkan if DirectX12 was so good by itself. What you and others are it seems still not getting, is the consumer electronics market is not the PC market, no matter how much you and others and it seems Microsoft want it to be. The Api for smartphones, TV's the majority of streaming box's and consoles are running on not on a Microsoft based OS' s and do not use or need DirectX. And the same thing could be askef, why would these companies need DirectX over Vulkan? You were the one saying Vulkan would just Copy DirectX. So than if they could copy DirectX why would they need DirectX? Oh' because DirectX is the original? Or its just over all better..really? If So where's the benchmarks?
"Consumers don't really care, they want what is easiest for them. That is Windows, because everything else runs on Windows already including their day-to-day applications. " Again this is not the PC market, its not about the console's, its about Microsoft's trying to Push the Windows OS into the living room, like they have been trying to do well before the Xbox was even a platform.. The Media center PC..the Problem is Once again, why would the Consumer Electronics market , need to adopt the Windows OS in the Living Room, when its already a market that caters to such an OS. Its called the PC, the blunt truth is many seem to not grasp about this is two fold, Microsoft's pushing a Desktop OS into the Living Room , has been ever since they started Making the Media center PC the main Target for the take over if the Living Room. And Yet, even Right Now its not a Windows OS that's already getting the majority of Adoption as a OS for the Living Room. Its Other OS's but Windows. Again many say or claim they have to beat Microsoft's OS abilities. And that's just not the case, because once again this is not the PC market. Microsoft's lock if the PC market is one thing, but if you really do think the outcome has a high chance for Microsoft to have a Windows OS be the main OS for the living room than do not be shocked is if again the outcome still is the same. microsoft's has to be able to grow the adoption rate of the Xbox platform on a world wide scale, not just in certain areas of the globe where console's are sold. Again this is not saying Microsoft's Xbox or windows 10 is a bad platform, I'm just simply pointing out. You cannot look at how Microsoft does in the PC market as a manifested destiny to be the same in the consumer electronics market when so many other companies are opposing Microsoft's chance to even make such a take over happen. Thing is they are way ahead of Microsoft at this point in having an OS take the living room, and this OS is Open source at that.
Only thing I don't like is that I can't run project 64 anymore so much for the PC version of rare replay :(
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