Good news for thrifty gamers: Microsoft's online multiplayer service could be offered free in the future.
The day its doen't overheat and has free online i will buy one for sho.
My 6th or 7th (I've lost count) 360 blew the fuses in my house on Sunday night. Then displayed the RROD. I probably deserved it for playing MOH: Airborne
Please do everyone a favor, don't buy a 360.
"Both would be nice. My 6th or 7th (I've lost count) 360 blew the fuses in my house on Sunday night. Then displayed the RROD. I probably deserved it for playing MOH: Airborne" I Don't Believe it, I have my xbox 360 since launch date and it still work like new.
Well your one of the lucky ones cause i for one am on my second, now the second one is cracking my games. Dont ask me how cause i dont know but my gears of war is no more.
You better hope you didnt just jinx yourself. No reason to not believe him. It is not uncommon to hear about people on their 6th or 7th 360.
I've reported my problems on this site each time they have happened. I got my first at launch in 2005 and it had graphical glitches, my second did the same, my third worked for a while then RROD'd, my fourth had DRE then RROD'd, my fifth had DRE and my sixth has just RROD'd. And people said I was a liar when I got to my 4th. But what choice do I have, I love games so I need a 360.
If true then kudos to MS for finally doing the right thing and not charging people to play games online with friends. Now if I didn't think Xbox 720 was 2 years (at the max) away, I'd pick up a 360. Oh yeah, the day XBL gold is free is the day you MS owners should thank Sony. That's right, thank Sony. Cuz if Sony had charged for PSN, XBL would never have gone free. And yes, the day Live is free is the day I concede that Live is the superior service (assuming Sony doesn't have home, widespread use of trohpies, cross game invites, and more games using custom soundtracks).
I don't think we'll see a new Xbox system be fore FFXIII comes out; which means, no 720/phoenix... before 2011 at least.
@1.8 unless they pull a "Sony" and support both the 360 and the newer system. It seems they are trying to remain as competitive as possible so there is a strong possibility that they will
I had my 360 since launch day and it just broke last month. And it was because of my daughter standing on it. I know they break. But I have a hard time believing this guys story. Anyway, THANK YOU SONY for adding features for free so that Microsoft is going to be forced to follow suit.
My story is 100% true. I'm a huge 360 fan and realise my experience is unusual. Over the years MS have apologized and have given me a free console and two free games (Halo 3 and Viva Piniata). Quite annoyingly I gave the free console to my friend and he hasn't had a problem in 2 years! But even with all the trouble i've had I suppose it could be worse, I could have a PS3 with 1 good game.
I've never gotten the flu, therefore it must not exist, right?
News on how a great service might be offered for free and the first 6 comments are about how the console sucks and over heats and is RRODing. All by people that don`t even display a gamertag in their profile. typical @Below why would he share his Gamertag with losers like us? He does not want to be harassed. I do think he is telliong the truth though.
your gamer tag pls
I say "if" they offer LIVE online play free and its based soley on Windows for gaming titles then who cares. All we will see are poorly ported PC games being offered up for free cross platform play. All the good console engineered titles which we would want to play in the first place on LIVE would still cost money according to this...and thus it still would be a broken model.
When will this happen? The year 2122. Microsoft isnt stupid. 12 million + people are willing to pay for the annual fee, so why would they stop? Microsoft is making a bundle off of this money, but all we here are people complaing but noone actually not paying.
Because I believe that's how many people signed up for Live total including Silver members. And there are a lot of silver members. About half the people I know with a 360 have gold while the other half don't bother.
absolutely.The thing is people are willing to pay.Moreover people in the minds have the belief that Live is THE superior online experience so paying just seems normal.Its been like that since xbox. Moreover I think Live must be brings in alot of cash for MSFT. I bet Sony would have loved to charge for PSN but know that it would never have worked because of the differance in "quality".
if xbox live is worth 60$... then the PSN is worth like 40$ as it is...if Sony doesn't charge for it is because they know online gaming should be free. The quality is the same and sometimes even better on PSN, the difference is that PSN is missing some FEATURES that LIVE has (private chat and cross game invites to name a few)...
FREAKING SWEET for all gamers. Xbox Live is so good.
knowing MS likes to charge for everything!! they will simply loose hundred's of millions if they do that! it is the only thing that keeps the MS gaming division from being on the red ink! EDIT they say its could happened, so its not even for sure!! and if that "COULD" became true am sure they will remove a lot of xbox live golden feature, making it cheap shop online gaming!! u see i know MS they wont make Live gold free, we all can just dream about it but it wont happened knowing MS strategies and marketing
You don't believe it.. because you know the effect it can have to PSN and the PS3 if Xbox live is free... you do not want to believe it... The fact is that.. XBox live offers more than multiplayer... Microsoft does not have to drop the Gold membership but simply add more value... the only thing that microsoft has to figure out to do is allow silver accounts to play online games for free... by doing allowing this... xbox owners (gold or not) will be connected.. which means they may rent movies, buy xbox live arcade games, subscribe to netflix and other services... microsoft can allow people to play online games regardless of what type of account they have... and they add gold account only features... like access to XNA Games marketplace, Netflix, IPTV, music, some movies, etc and people will keep their account... xbox live does more than play multiplayer.. and allowing it to everyone can increase revenue for all other areas... this is not new... lots of companies that offer online gaming have other ways to make money... microsoft can do the same...
That still sucks Bladestar since you have to pay a annual fee just to use the full content of XBL.
"xbox live does more than play multiplayer" i say that most of the gold members payed 50$ annually mostly to play online, and very few percentage pays that money for the other features as much as for online gaming! if online gaming becomes free u start the decreasing counter for Live golden membership
Unless there is a mass exodus. Ms made about 400 mill this fiscal year in the games divsion. You can bet 90% or all of that is from Live Gold.
i doubt that profit on every console sold and having the highest attach rate equating to more software royalties played any part in their profit.
Do the math Sherlock. Lets be conservative and say 8 million Live Gold members. 8,000,000 x $50 = $400,000,000 a year. They reported $400 mill and some change in profit for the last fiscal year that just passed.
I don't mind paying for live but also free would be great
Why on earth is The Gadget Show on five classed as a source? Yeah, its a great show and everything, I try to watch when I can but c'mon, it's just trying to twist into context whats been going about for the past couple of days.
then i can finally stop using it as a point to thwart xbutts...no one wants to pay 50bucks to get insulted.
Why buy a Porch (ps3) if your gonna drive a Caravan (360)
I doubt Live will be free in the near future, but a price drop is certain! People seem to forget that Games For Windows is free now, and that's why ShadowRun "meh", Universe at War and Lost Planet work. There are very few cross platform games, I don't see them increasing in popularity any time soon!
that's because you are a fanboy... That's like putting deodorant to a pile of $h!t hopping it will not stink... I don't care if I don't like Sony... if anyone wants to give me a PS3 I'll take it... hell I would take an atari if you give it to me... "Why buy a Porch (ps3) if your gonna drive a Caravan (360) " well.. try putting 8 people in a Porch... Just like a Honda or Toyota the xbox 360 give you more mile/gaming for your buck... There is a reason why people the government do not use porches for public transportation... or people with families do not buy a Ferrari as their family car...
Yea Bladestar it gives you more miles until it suffers from a car breakdown (RRoD)
even if you're a stupid fanboy, you could still take the free 360, sell it and buy another PS3, then make sweet love to your consoles. You're just like the people that waited days in line during the PS3 launch, paid 600 euros for the console just to break it in front of the camera. *stupid fanboys*
The whole "type of car" analogy that hellvacancy states is not quite correct, but i definitely see where he is goin, you may be picking it apart incorrectly, I believe the simple truth is that for the money when getting a new 80GB PS3 that will be coming out soon which is $50 more than the new 60GB 360, you get alot of bang for your buck. The 360 just has more reliability issues and design flaws, whereas the PS3 was engineered correctly from the start and includes bluray which would cost you another $400 for a separate player if it didnt include it from the start. I believe you can say that both companies, Sony and Microsoft, are stating that you can buy a "ferrari" quality console, but in fact only one company is delivering, Sony
Liquid Dust - ohh yeah.. don't forget to talk about games... you know.. it's common knowledge... regardless of the fact that the xbox 360 is one year older... the xbox 360 have a larger library of games and a lot more AAA titles... ohh yeah.. and microsoft is willing to go the extra mile (pay for exclusives) unlike Sony to keep the game coming or at least keep extra content which translate to more gaming experience... So, yeah Sony is delivering the big luxury V12 car... but microsoft is ensuring I have enough fuel(Games) to keep running my Honda Civic(Xbox 360)... if what you want is to show off and drive around the corner(Wait for a game like Metal Gear to come out); that's all good... but to me the car is just a form of transportation to take where I want to go and do what I want to do (Play games)... this reminds me of all the people in the US trying to get rid of those big SUV (V8)... GAMES GAMES GAMES... that's the console I want.. and yeah true... Sony have lots of promises to deliver which you base your faith on... but you see... didn't Sony promise KZ2 back in 2004-05? well... where is it? ohh yeah is coming... didn't developers promise that Lair and Haze were going to be AAA? well.. they didn't... When all Sony's promises materialize and the xbox 360 all of the sudden stop making AAA titles as if being delivering for the past 3 years... then we can talk about the PS3 being the best option for gamers...
I feel like you pulled me into a delorean and took me on a field trip to spring 2007! The time of no good PS3 titles and LAIR, which indeed was quite the dissapointment. Indeed you speak truth regarding when comparing AAA titles from fall 2007, i had a ton of difficulty in making my purchase come christmas time between the xbox360 and PS3. I am glad I chose my ps3, and believe me, i thought long and hard. I have made my choice and im not going to go into the details because it would be off topic, but the fact is PS3 has games, and please dont be ignorant, because you know it does, and good ones at that, developers are coming into their own with the PS3 architecture, crossplatform titles are barely distinguishable in difference, and I just have so many games to look forward to this fall. The past is the past my friend, you got some good games, but so does the PS3, and im looking forward to the future and yes, the promises that Sony has in store for me. i'll quit fuelling the fire, im looking forward to a great season of gaming for both the 360 and the PS3, we're all gamers here, theres gonna be alot of excitement and spending of money very soon
First off, MS just re-set in stone that when the new Xbox Live dashboard hits this fall that all multiplayer access through Xbox Live will continue to be Gold Membership. Currently, the games that are listed on this site have all ready been reported to be "limited free play" and will eventually stop by MS. More than likely, they are limited free play to give thrifty gamers the chance to at least play online so that hopefully they enjoy it enough to pay for the service. Notice also that the games that are free are the ones no one is playing on Xbox Live. Sorry to burst people's bubble, but Xbox Live won't be free any time soon, if ever.
They have to do something, Sony's PSN is starting to be closer to XBL still being free.
isn't this only for game that are on computer
There is a awful lot of imaginary blowing up 360's around here.
As a day one Gold Member of Live....all I can say its about time...I could never understand why I am paying to play a game online OR pay to have to have access to buy stuff... I took us off autorenewal, since this was to me inevitable. I will use freebies for GOW2 online, but thats about it.
That would win me over.
What Microsoft needs to do is Old games free and games like Halo, Gears, Cod4 needs gold to play online. for example R6V 1 Free , R6V 2 need gold account.
That would be awesome. But then I'm sure more people would be playing the older games since they're free.
even know why this article was made along with many others? People know that soon HOME will arrive on the PS3. Which obviously unless you are in denial is a better concept and offers alot more to do. All this and PSN will still be free. People know that once HOME arrives LIVE will be a total rip-off of what you could get on PSN.
they dont want it for free. I got called out earlier for saying it should be free and now this......make up your minds
it's the same way with installs, avatars, FFXIII etc. xbox fans said they didn't want any of this stuff, and now most are super hyped for these things. but fanboyism can make you a hypocrite I guess. "lets lol in unison." :)
in unison lol;)
allot of them are young and confused. they don't know what they want yet.
Oh get over yourselves, I don`t mind paying for it and would defend the service but on the otherhand if it was free I would not mind it either, that`s just plain logic. And you`re tallking about a specific few. Your comments would have more weight in the open zone where people actually care about commments like that.
open zone because he thinks peeps are acting hypocritical? Well answer his theory: do you WANT it to be free or not? key word 'WANT' just be honest
uh, that made no sense, sorry. Who does not want something for free?
Maybe because you said that. Maybe if you did like he said and answered the question and said you DO in fact WANT it for free that it may indicate that you believe it could/should be. The thing i find strange is how most people fill in the gaps for broke ar*e MS *sarcasm* to justify why they have to pay. They give many reasons why they should but hardly any why they shouldn't because that would be almost blasphemous. I dont mind if MS continue to charge because it doesn't affect me directly but i do feel that psn being free is a plus for sony no matter how good people feel xbl is. New customers may be swayed by 'free online gaming' Old customers were here b4 there was any real competition you see where im coming from. Im sure that sony are hoping xbl wont be free because that will be the end of the price point advantage. oh and 'Who does not want something for free' is not answering the question directly. Your answer it goes without saying and can be applied to most consumable things
ok, I want it to be free, and I don't mind paying for it, as in, I want my cable to be free, but I don't mind paying for it. I would also really like my car payments to be free, yet I don't mind paying them and you know what. I choose to not mind paying for it, even though I choose to want it to be free. I respect your choice, respect mine. You made a comment directed at fanboys, cause cause cause you where called out, remember, the open zone is a click away and they would love to argue these semantics with you.
'ill pay because its worth it' dilemma I get you man. You want to pay. You feel its worth it. Good for you guy. The inspiration for my 'but but but', that you feel should be in the openzone was some of the comments I read in this article http://www.n4g.com/NewsCom-... less than a day ago. 360 owners that dont want it to be free. 360 dudes that believe its worth it. 360 guys that 'dont mind paying for it' not all of them were fanboys mind you so ill address everybody wherever n4g allows me k Am i not allowed to make comment or a little poke at what I consider hypocritical? you imply that im crying yet its you with the issue and you who seem aggrieved. Whats wrong with anything i've said apart from the dig in the header?? I responded honestly without the BS or nameslinging yet I should click to the openzone right. People can disagree and have a little fun in the gamerzone guy... sheesh Maybe you should lighten up............ WHY so SERIOUS;) http://www.n4g.com/ViewComV... ditto
Did you miss the memo? Gamer zone is serious business. ;P I'll chill out, sorry about that.
ill be sure to tread carefully;) good sport
I'm not saying it wouldn't be great to get free XBL but come on! $50.00 is nothing people. People spend hundreds to thousands of dollars a year on gaming and complain about $50.00? PUH-lease.
People spend hundreds to thousands of dollars a year on gaming and complain about HAVING TO PAY AN EXTRA $50.00 FOR NOTHING. fixed. a fee that shouldn't even be there anymore.
after paying for a router, a modem, a monthly fee to my isp, and paying for the system and games, u expect me to pay JUST so i can go online with my system? aint that bs? it would be like if MS started to charge people for using their internet explorer. everyone would switch to firefox cuz its free. edit : try balancing family expenses, house expenses, food expenses, and ultities expenses together with ur gaming. mb then ull find value in that 50 dollars.
okay, how about this, not saying you are a soda fiend or anything like that, but xbox live costs one soda a week. You are trying to tell me that even with all those other things you cannot cut out one soda a week or something similar, That being said, if it was free I would love it, if it was 100 dollars I wouldn't game on it, but $50 isn't that bad FOR ME. To those who truly cannot afford it, maybe they shouldn't own a $400 game machine and should put that money, and more importantly, time to use and get out there and make something of their lives so that they can enjoy frivolous things like gaming to their heart's content.
Here are some of my thoughts on this: I now have a silver account. I won´t renew my gold, even though it hurts bad, that I´m not able to play COD 4 with some of my friends anymore. I´ve had my 360 since launch, and I was lucky to only experience RROD once. I´ve had gold almost all the time up until know. I just think it´s too much money, ´cause where I´m from (Denmark), the deal is approx. 100$ a year and approx. 12$ for just one month. I own a high spec PC, PS3 and an Xbox 360, and all singleplayer games will be played on my 360 (unless it´s a PC or PS3 exclusive), and multiplayer games (or singleplayer games with multiplayer components) will be bought for PS3 or PC, because online is free. I actually prefer to play on my Xbox 360 rather than PS3, but that´s mostly because of the controller (I have big hands). I just don´t prefer to pay that much. I still think the features of Xbox Live is superior to PS3, and much easier to use, but in the end, I think it´s wrong to pay to play online. I can make an exception when it comes to Diablo III (battlenet if required) and possibly also the new MMO set in the KOTOR universe. Even Wii has free online WTF. EDIT: Microsoft even made Games for Windows free, because the community just wouldn´t have it, which I think is awesome.
I don't really mind paying as long as i am contribute toward making xbox live even better
PSN keeps getting better and better and I don't pay nothing. So, what I do to contribute? I've been buying Qore since it came out every month, that's 3 dollars a month or 25 dollars a year and it's NOT OBLIGATORY.
While I don't mind paying for it, I certainly wouldn't turn down free Live.
They mention at the end that sony offers a "basic online service" for free.
Where the hell have they been? There's nothing "basic" about the PSN currently, although they do have the "free" part correct. I switched my Gold XBL to Silver last fall and game on the PSN now and haven't regretted the switch once. And PSN has been constantly improving since then.
I don't know how to feel about the idea of XBL for free. On one side of the argument, not having to pay for it would answer the echoing screams from gamers across the internet and gaming community. PC Gaming and PSN are doing it, so why not XBL. Personally, I don't see what all the fuss is about. $50 dollars per year is well worth it IMO. Then the other side of the coin when you make it free, all off the bans, suspension and other disciplinary action taken against those who would abuse XBL have much less STING. Each person will have a dozen different gamertags. You could ban the serial number but then that hurt everyone that uses the console. Anyway, Free or not, both PSN and XBL are great. I'm just not sure that MS dropping the charge is going to help the experience on XBL.