PS4News: "Nintendo has said that sometime in 2016, they will release more information on their enigmatic NX."
Ps4 already has a competitor in the X1... Is xbox losing saleswise? Yes, but still a competitor nonetheless. Clearly a stealth bait article PSG4MER
When Indies abandon your platform When European publishers don't bother publishing an XBox version When Japanese developers completely skip you When Kingmaker Call of Duty breaks off the long-standing affair--- We don't call that a competition. We call that 'Also Ran'
When indies abandon your platform? That's odd whats this? http://www.technobuffalo.co... So MS losing out on early piece of DLC is makes them none competitive now that's interesting. I highly agree on Jap devs skipping Xbox. Don't know what you mean by European pubs skipping out on Xbox. Heres hoping NX is competitive but MS is still just as competitive.
NX could really take PS4 by surprise ..Nintendo is a loved company and can compete direct with Sony at least in their homeland if NX is equivalant to PS4 ...Nintendo is known for stealing /persuading with exclusive deals more easily the big Japanese Devs..and is the one of these points where Xone totally lacks support (and huge sales) cause of its origin ...even now i have in my mind some hidden aces they may prepare like Monster HUnter 5 which will onslaught the Japanese market ...one good example that Ninty can explode sales out of nowhere with one and only quality title is Splatoon
Success in all manufacturer's hands. What makes up the sales figures of a specific brand doesn't necessarily mean brand loyalty; it's a collection of families and people. people that may be oblivious to the competition, and they have the right to choose or have both.
The Steam Machines When it comes to 'games and games services' I believe the Steam Machines are the real threat to PS4's dominance in the living room. Steam is one of the most prolific games services in the world. I hope they come soon.
StrayaKNT Actually, no. PS4 has more games and more exclusives than Xbox One. And much more game diversity.
@gearsdoodoobro, i dont think the same way as u do, if a new console comes out with games people wants to play and enough power under the bonnet people will buy it!! Not just casuals but true gamers!! The wii sold so well because the casuals bought it but people keep forgeting that withing those millions sold quite a few were from gamers too not just casual, so if nintendo brings a decent piece of kit with the amazing games they have, please Count me IN. I already own both xbone and ps4 so the nx will be a nice addition and will be able to get all the best out of the 3 systems!!!
If you're waiting for Steam macines then you don't need one. The people who actually cares about this already build their own.
@breakpaad If Nintendo is so loved why the lack of 3Rd party support? And your argument of exclusive sway is honestly laughable. Take for instance arkham origins dlc, planned but later cancelled due to lack of expected sales and that's not the only game this has happened to. I challenge you to name some multiplat games that have GOOD nintendo only dlc that skipped sony and MS.
i think that you should respect the competition no matter how poor it's performing. In sports it's the exact same thing.. you should always respect your opponents no matter how good you are. To a gamer, competition isn't in the sales but in the games and experiences offered. I'm not an xbox fan for what it's offering. This article should be banned the assumptions are completely fanboy. We know absolutely nothing about NX. I just hope they don't make something too weird again.
So many factors to consider By the time nx releases the ps4 will be well over 30 million sold with a robust library.. Plus dragon quest that the article refers to is confirmed for ps4 also But the main thing is all the Nintendo fans that will have lost trust in Nintendo especially the Wii u backers.. I lost trust after the gamecube Fiasco and never bought a Nintendo console since but I still buy their handhelds Nintendo have a massive battle ahead not with Sony and Microsoft but with their own fanbase.. Nintendo can really make amends by releasing at a 149 price point.. But knowing Nintendo Im doubtful that they will.. but even I would be tempted at that pricepoint Nintendo need to really make smart moves Now including their online set up needs a massive overhaul.. Let's Hope Nintendo get with the times and become more open
"Is the PS4’s true competitor set to be the Nintendo NX?" Ridiculous. I am laughing but not at the NX. I am laughing at the ridiculous conjecture formed by the headline of this story. It isn't about the hardware. It is about the management of said hardware. Nintendo actually had a wonderful opportunity with the Wii U. And they failed to capitalize on it. This incident wasn't a one off. Although they sold more consoles with the Wii, that was due to the new gamer/granny crowd and they actually missed with that chance as well. It is their outdated tightfisted unevolving management properties. They will certainly sell to those persons that are already Nintendo fans. But if they continue on the same path that is the only crowd they will garner. They may snag a few here and there who are curious but that will be all. So no, the NX isn't a PS4 competitor.
This article is full of so much stupid. The Wii U was without question the weakest of the next-gen consoles. And there's no way to make a $150 NX and have it be more powerful than the XBO and PS4, the only way it can claim most powerful hardware at $150 is if it's a handheld first and foremost. And as far as the rumors of NX being less powerful than PS4, GOOD. Nintendo doesn't need a $400 console to sell when the PS4 and XBO will have been on the market for 3 years by the time it launches and drop down to $300 along with 3 years worth of games, and install bases hovering around 50m / 30m, with NX having 0. Aiming for XBO performance is a much easier task, and can be done at a much lower price for consumers at $250. Nintendo needs to be worrying about increasing the fanbase they're selling first and foremost instead of worrying about MS and Sony. At a reasonable price ($250), and with a first party line-up fans have been asking for for several generations now (Pokemon MMO, Pokemon Snap 2, Metroid, New IP), free online, and improvements to other areas of the console Nintendo can get out of these unfortunately consistent 30m or less selling consoles (from N64 - Wii U, excluding Wii), and get a much better 50m - 60m consistent user base going.
Let me know when all that happens.
So basically your saying the PS3 was not the 360s competitor... Your comment is the reason I hate reading comments.
@StrayaKNT is exactly the type of tool fanboy that tries to justify his purchase by saying whatever comes out his a** and then follows up with "In my Opinion" ROFL
Well, you guys talk about the NX as a predetermined thing without knowing if it is a console or handled yet. Why, do I mention this... well, recently a new pokemon movie was released and and new pokemon was show on that movie. Which for me it probably means than Nintendo is releasing a new generation for a new handled system. Until Nintendo don't saying otherwise the NX it is a handled for me, based on the recently fact about the pokemon movie show on theater in Japan.
Did you even read the article? Literally first sentence: The Playstation 4 hit the shelves in America in late November 2013, and has since been in rather fierce competition with Nintendo’s WiiU and Microsoft’s XBOXOne
salenumbers of consoles AND games! numbers dont lie, there is no serious competition for sony at the moment, lets see what nintendo does, but ps4 is king of the hill right now nobody can deny that!
Except for PC which pulls in more gaming revenue than PS4, Xbone, and Wii u combined. https://opengamingalliance.... https://opengamingalliance....
@Andrew, Spot on, but n4g users will deny it fiercely. As for competition, PSNow and Morpheus are Sony's biggest competitors as far as the PS4 is concerned. Sony is marketing Morpheus as a separate platform. http://n4g.com/news/1750702... PSNow compatibility is being pushed in Samsung and Sony HDTV's and can stream PS4 games when Sony decides to do so. Every quarter we see Sony tell investors the road to profitability is through enhanced services such as PSPlus, PSVue and PSNow.
@Death: You tried using those B.S. numbers too and so I'm going to tell Andrew what I told you and add stuff to his B.S. A) Posting a picture is proof of nothing. B) The statements you yourself gave previously were just that, statements. Someone made an unbacked assertion and you people ran with it. C) Including tablets and phones as "PCs" is intellectually dishonest. If PC were making more money for gaming, that's where the majority of support would be and it's not. Stop parroting lies, or provide solid, fact based evidence and not assertions.
Unless it gets third party support then no, without a gimmick or something new like the wii it will never get close unless it has quality first party games backed up by third party along wit the rest of the consoles. Now I'm no Nintendo hater but it'll take more than endless Mario games and a promise of a Zelda to draw me in.
Any gaming device is competitor to PS4, but so far PS4 ha been cruising along.
I don't see PS4 competing with xbone, PS4 is soo far ahead in sales now it's not even a competion anymore let's be serious
That's not how it works. The Xbox One is competing in the same arena as the ps4, therefore it's a competitor. Regardless of sales figures or personal preference.
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The PS4 will be cought by the XBOX ONE in the US Market by December 31st 2015. The PS4 has their hands full getting AAA Exclusive Next-generation Games.
PS4 is the second fastest selling console after Wii. If Xbox One can't pose much of a threat to it, what honest chance does the NX have?
A threat? Trust me, the gaming market would be a real shitty place if Microsoft and Nintendo didn't challenge PS4, be grateful that all 3 are enjoying certain levels of success
For one, Nintendo isn't enjoying much success with their current console since its the lowest selling one they've ever had in terms of hardware and software. Second, what part of my post made it sound like Nintendo and Microsoft aren't needed in the industry?
so a competitor is a threat?
technically yes... well in terms of biology
so a company sole existence is to threat other companies instead of making profit.
The Xbox One does pose a threat, it may be behind in sales but that doesnt mean they are trying to steal whoever they can from Sony.
Maybe in North America and possibly the UK it does, as for world wide, then no, it's not even a competition. As for the NX, it hasn't even been officially revealed or has a release date. So, how can it be competition for the PS4 as well as the X1? For arguments sake, let's say the NX releases next fall (Oct/Nov 2016) by that time where will the PS4 be in consoles sold 50 or 60mil? The X1 should be around 35, 40mil? How would the NX even be competition cause that would be a substanial lead your competitors have (console wise) and you've only just come out.
"PS4 is the second fastest selling console after Wii. If Xbox One can't pose much of a threat to it, what honest chance does the NX have?" You just answered your own question. Sony has a console that is selling second best to nintendos old console. So the best selling console ever belongs to Nintendo and your asking what chance do they have? If they put out solid system with great 3rd part support, they have every chance. We just won't know until it's released.
Wii sold well thanks to the casual market. When the mobile market took off and Move/Kinect released, Wii sales took a nosedive. It can't be used as proof of anything besides Nintendo having a lightning in a bottle moment. PS4 and X1 will have a substantial lead by the time NX arrives. Its absurd to think that NX will pose any real threat when it'd be competing with consoles that have 30+ million userbase. The thing about if Nintendo had 3rd party it'd dominate thinking is flawed. GCN had some third party support and even with plenty of 1st party exclusives it still sold less than newcomer Xbox.
Of course there's a chance. If it's a successful console and bearing in mind I'm using the word If. If it's successful people who don't currently have the Xbox One or ps4 may choose the nx therefore reducing the sales of the ps4. That is, no matter how you spin it going to have a negative impact on sales. Let's say there are (for arguments sakes) 200 million potential gamers out there. 2 way split for ps4 X1 would be 100 million each over 10 years, with another competitor that's a 3 way split therefore less sales all around, ergo, a threat to sales.
I wonder how what the PS4 sales numbers worldwide will be by the time the NX launches? And the Xbox One sales too.
Say its late 2016, PS4 may be approaching** 50 million, give or take.
That would be very impressive. Sony would likely be very happy with those numbers.
I say 40m at lowest or 50m at highest.
50 million is doable depending on the games that come, we will hopefully see Horizon, Uncharted, TLG, and maybe GoW and even more of a maybe some kind of Gran Turismo.
So realistically you believe that the PS4 will sell 25 million systems by next year? Sony is not dropping the price anytime soon.
50 million is a little bit crazy.
Yup, but like I said, give or take. As for XBO well that's much more difficult to estimate, but I'd say 35 - 45 million. Either way, NX would have to be incredible since both will finally be in their prime.
All nintendo needs is an innovative, family-friendly console like the original Wii and it'll blow both PS4 and XB1 sales out of the water but, would this make it the best console? Of course not, that answer is entirely based on subjective preferences, not sales numbers on a spreadsheet
That's stupid ideas I ever heard.
Okay it appears that people did not understand my comment. Nintendo have been hinting that their new console is going to be cheap and a new type of gaming, therefore, it makes sense that if this new innovation is as innovative and fun as the Wii's motion controls, sales could be as big as the Wii (the best selling home console of all time). It's much easier said than done but it's a possibility.
people already have that its called a wii
But, isn't that what the Wiiu is/was
Actually the Wii is not the most successful console of all time. The PS2 outsold the Wii.... Just pointing that out
UHHHH...Nintendo already has an innovative, family friendly platform. 2, in fact. The thing is, the Wii did so we'll because it was a cheap, casual (overall) platform that anyone could play. The Wii U isn't doing so well because (a) people probably think it's an add-on or (b) the same casual market that owns a Wii sees no need to buy another gaming platform. It's no different from your parents asking why you need a PlayStation 2 when you already had a Nintendo 64 when you were younger. People likely don't see the difference here. Regardless, Nintendo's NX is completely up in the air. I doubt it'll be weak though. It's supposed to be able to run Unreal 4. Guess we'll see. They're better off with a Nintendo 64 approach: powerful, many exclusives, great number of must have titles.
Ummmmmm you are aware that the ps2 is the best selling home console ever right???? I mean....by like a rather large margin.
It won't be strong like PS4 and xbox one from what i've read, so nope! weak nintendo sauce again.
Yeah? Confirmed specs already? please link sources.
I still feel like it's too early to talk about the NX. Hell we know nothing about the system officially except its name and DQ is coming to it.
This is my point entirely! The only developers that have final specs on what NX is are in house Nintendo developers at best. So everything else is just rumors at this point...
We should not be talking about an NX release date until at least 2018...
PS4news said so. smh The NX will be nothing more than a console for Nintendo first party game that was already been established since the N64....aka, the most powerful console at that generation. People failed to realize that having a great first party lineup and comparable spec is not enough anymore in this day and age. A robust online and rich media feature is essential to modern day consoles and I don't forsee Nintendo ever having those parts upgraded to modern standards like Live and PSN but most likely are just minor upgrade to what we are seeing from them from their past 2 consoles regardless of how powerful the hardware is. I am sure we will see more third party support but that is the best we can hope for at this point unless something really shocking happens with the NX, but don't hold your breath on it.
Wow, what ?
Well Nintendo is ready for online service. They have stated that already they have a new thing coming. As far as hardware goes its already been hit with a rumor that its definitely not trying to compete on PS4's level. Although things have changed since then. Nintendo's lead hardware guy stepped down and Iwata has recently passed. It could lead to a change in NX's development or a delay. Depends on how the company's new leader looks at it. Nintendo has already mentioned they are closing their Club Nintendo program down in September in favor of a new online membership service for all Nintendo devices in the future. Starting around September/October I believe. NX likely will be first console to sport it fully.
I really hope so. Could you imagine Nintendo making a console with more power then the ps4/Xbox one. If so I'll pre order and love Nintendo like I did when I was a kid. Its time for Nintendo to take its throne back. Lets keep our finger crossed.
imo the PS4 is unstoppable
When are they going to announce NX? TGS15 or E3 2016?
E3 2016 99% likely. Even if it doesn't launch until 2018. They have already stated they will talk about NX in 2016 which means E3 as it is the biggest publicity event. Although its likely they will just do a Nintendo Direct then.
Doesn't Nintendo typically announce consoles near the end of the 4th fiscal quarter? I remember them announcing 3DS in March.