Community manager Marcin Momot also talks a particular quest fix incoming for consoles
1080p 20fps..... i love my ps4 and i have fun playing a lot of games on it....at least there are devs that want/know how to master it
The X1 version runs at 900p @ 20fps, would you prefer that?
Xbox One version runs at an uncapped frame rate with dynamic resolution, and has on average a higher frame rate than the PS4 version which has 30 fps upper lock.
If the ps4 version runs at 30 FPS then it would be a none issue. The problem is that it struggles to hit 30 FPS and plunges into 15 FPS when you need a steady FPS the most, like during combat with a ton of downers in Death March. Let's face it. The PS4 can't handle this game and 900p would be well worth it to achieve smooth performance.
@donthate Ps4 still has better performance. Here is analysis done by digital foundry. http://www.eurogamer.net/ar... So at the end of the day, PS4 has both better resolution AND performance. Let's face it X1 can't handle this game at 900p with its frame rate dropping to 20 fps. May need to resort to 720p if it wants steady 30 fps. @griever Digital foundry said they even most cutscenes they saw was 900p.
@donthate The X1 version does not runs at uncapped fps anymore after the 1.07 patch. "Essentially, gameplay on Xbox One now appears to rely on a similar double-buffer v-sync set-up to the PS4 game, locking its frame-rate to 20fps during these lulls in performance." http://www.eurogamer.net/ar... Furthermore, the "dynamic" resolution only means that cutscenes run at 1080p. The gameplay runs at a fixed 900p and never goes into 1080p territory. http://www.eurogamer.net/ar... @Bolt The game NEVER drops down to 15 fps on PS4. That is a blatant lie. In the worst situations it drops to a locked 20 fps and that is it.
Is there a FPS counter on the PS4 so you can tell exactly how many FPS it's running at? Nope. But one can generally tell when it's running OK and when it's running like shit, and fighting a pack of drowners on death march is a bad time for the frames drop. Unfortunately that's usually when they start dropping.
@donthate 1080p on ps4 vs 900p on xbox one??? No surprise that x1 has higher framerate.. Ill take 1080p over a very few fps.
get your facts people with the new updates, http://www.eurogamer.net/ar... "In terms of direct platform-to-platform comparisons on patch 1.03, PS4 and Xbox One are both capped to 30fps now, but Microsoft's console does hold a steadier line on balance. In almost every segment of gameplay tested, the performance overhead on Xbox One prior to the patch now translates to a confident 30fps cap - and with far fewer stutters below. It's possible further optimisation on the Sony release could bring it up to speed, but for now Xbox One enjoys a noticeable advantage in terms of overall consistency. It's an advantage also seen in The Witcher 3's in-engine cut-scenes. As before, PS4 automatically locks to the 20fps line at any sign of dropping below 30fps. By comparison Xbox One lurks at the 25fps mid-point, freely updating with frames as and when they become available. The net result is that PS4 typically runs at a slower, more sluggish rate in every scene tested. Where performance goes below 30fps on Xbox One, the read-out is also identical to its results before patch 1.03 - meaning no performance boost is apparently made to these stress-points. The only difference here is that it now hits a 30fps ceiling. On balance, it's an improvement on both sides but Xbox One owners have a bigger reason to celebrate this update. Though it struggles to match the clarity of PS4's native 1920x1080 output, the 30fps cap is better adjusted for Microsoft's platform in practice, with fewer stutters during play giving it a tangible performance advantage." http://www.eurogamer.net/ar... "Compared side-by-side, the gap has narrowed between PS4 and Xbox One, but only due to the latter's apparent degradation in performance, forcing the two to run at a matching 20fps in challenging areas. Otherwise, PS4's performance profile on patch 1.07 doesn't give us much to celebrate - it still stutters in places where Xbox One runs at a perfectly smooth 30fps, and in cut-scenes, Sony's console produces the lower readings overall." what would be very interesting is if sony is the one preventing the game going to a lower resolution and wants the resolution advantage after all the talk about the xbox one having lots of games running on lower resolutions.
I think it would be good to have that option to lower the resolution. I don't have an issue with the fps though so i'm fine at 1080p
i am not gonna call out someone but some of you posting hate comments about ps4's version never even played the game on ps4, so how do you know? digital foundary found the ps4's version to be the better of the 2 so should i take your word or actual tech stat date if you don't like the ps4 than that's fine but atleast keep the hate to yourself. why we still argue over this stuff is beyond me. enjoy your console of choice and let others enjoy their's. i am a ps4 owner who has nothing against the xbox one, its an amazing console which i would have bought if i actually had some more time for games please spread any hate, end of the day we are all gamers and love games
They should the swamp sections are almost unplayable.
@GameNameFame So . . . you are gloating that a game runs poorly, but just slightly less poorly than another console? You guys are the worst lol.
That sucks.....anything below 60 is hard for me...
that's what she said
Says the guy who want 343 to drop the H5 to 30fps for split screen. So which one is gonna be? Moving goalpost much...
before digital foundry started releasing these videos nobody even noticed frame rate on consoles.
I thought these guys were like wizards. Not sure if I want to grab this game
The problem isn't game optimization, it's system performance. The Witcher 3 is the most graphically demanding game released to date and even before the downgrade I maintained that there was no way these consoles would be able to do 1080p at PC quality, and it seems I was right since 1080p/20 at quality settings quite a bit lower than the PC version is capable of just doesn't cut the mustard. IMO, the PS4 would need a GPU that's about 30% faster in order to properly play this game at 1080p/30 on PC medium settings. Here is a comparison between a PC running a GTX 760 (which is 2.4 tflops) and the PS4 (1.84 tflops). https://youtu.be/SRuvMDxBGE... That said, I hope CDPR reconsiders updating the PS4 version with a 900p option. It's not smart to alienate people who paid good money for a game. At the very least, they should give a detailed explanation why it would be too difficult or expensive to add this adjustment. I also think this performance issue can be improved greatly simply by updating the graphics driver used in the PS4. AMD is notoriously bad with driver updates on PC, and I wouldn't doubt this also applies to console systems. "Says the guy who want 343 to drop the H5 to 30fps for split screen. So which one is gonna be? Moving goalpost much..." Haha! I heard that b*tch slap all the way from my house. Excellent work. Many of you console peasants might now like what I say around here, but you wont find me changing my views just to troll. "hows arkham knight working for you" Don't know, don't care. You're comparing apples to durians since everyone understands that the PC version of Arkham Knight was broken due to poor coding and has nothing to do with PC's not being able to handle it.
I hope they fix collect them all quest, because 1.07 broke it.
i wished they'd fix the fps first
Its good on my 970.. Dont go below 55fps.
To fix that you get a pc
Works great in 1440P on my SLI 970's. #ConsoleProblems
hows arkham knight working for you
Perfectly since launch actually. Seems only AMD peasants had issues. Too bad game is terrible anyways. Glad I only paid $30 for it on steam. ;) BTW I own XB1 and PS4, if thats the direction you are going in
Is that a joke? I just realised it's gaminbot, never mind
hahahahaha. Nailed it! Bubs for ya!
Why is Gamingbolt still allowed here?
Because popcorn needs better sales and what better place. Movie theaters are nothing to console wars.
What the ?! Oh it's gamingbolt again. Someone ban this site already.
who in their right mind would want him bald
I know right. Who would want that sexy a$$ hair removed?
900p would be a reasonable option, nothing worse than a crappy framerate.
downgrading the resolution wouldn't magically fix the issue. the problem is similar to Skyrim on PS3 where theres so much junk that you collect that the ram can't handle too much. they need to remove the pointless junk which will improve framerate.
I don't agree with that, lowering the resolution always improves performance (unless the game is restricted by CPU)
@bumnut or unless the game is restricted by lazy devs responsible of bad/unoptimized porting from the pc version
Can't wait to collect 7GB of alchemy ingredients when the inevitable TES VI comes out. It's going to be tricky to make it lag unless there's Oblivion gates spawning in the city again.
If 900p fixed the framerate i would be all for that!
it wouldn't. you know all the useless junk you collect in the game ? thats the issue.
1080p is so much better than 900p though. But everyone has their own preference so would be nice to see that choice added to the game. People would actually see how much better 1080p is than 900p then. They probably wont add it because they know most people will go right back to 1080p.
So...a slightly sharper game is better than one that plays smoothly Gotcha. This is why this gen is pathetic. People care about graphics more than gameplay.
I've never been one who sits infront of my TV counting pixels.. If it looks sharp and is locked at 30FPS I'm happy.
I think they're saying this because its not locked at 30fps and struggling to get there
Oh, i've already seen him bald... in some of the less terrifying bugs.
I don't believe I've seen any noticeable difference in frame rate since the update...or I've just been too engrossed in the fight to notice. Geralt does seem to be able to walk through doors now though... Either way id be disappointed if they downgraded the PS4 version to 900p, you can tell the difference in res on a big TV.
The frame rate isn't caused by the GPU. It's the CPU that is having issues. I've played the game on a lesser GPU with decent settings with a good cpu and it's fine. But the game isn't perfect. There are still various bugs in the game, and tbh the amount of patches there are for many games now in quick succession shows how rushed to market they are.
Why fight for scraps when you can enjoy it without compromise on PC?
Fighting for scraps - strange way of putting it. I game on consoles because I work in IT and spend enough of my time sat in front of PC's. Another reason is everybody i know plays and chats on PSN.
It's written in a humoristic tone. But with some truths in it... :) I understand you 101% in regards of not wanting to sit in front of a PC to game as that is your work place. But that's the beauty of a PC. It can be almost everything.. My PC is my super charged console. I turn on the PC and the TV. It boots up and I press and hold the Xbox silver button on my controller and Steam BigPicture mode starts. And off I go...all with friends list and voice communication. And now Xbox is in Windows 10. So I have access to all my friends there with cross voice chat..cool stuff. But I get why you use your PS4. I love my PS4. There is a reason it's the number one selling console for over a year now. It got everything you need to have some fun at a great price. I'm just saying you can have it all if you want :)
Why does everyone have the impression that you have to game at a desk to play on PC?? My rig always sits right next to my tv and I game on my couch. Have not used my monitor all year. Everyone I know is on PS4, its why I only get MP games for my PS4... SP games like Witcher 3, there is no way in hell I get that for my PS4 over my PC.
Console gaming for me has been about 3 things: the exclusives(more a Nintendo or playstation thing obviously), the ease of use (everything is standardized and simplistic), and local co-op. Perhaps local co-op is possible on PC now but I have yet to see it in action. All of the PC gamers I know are loners when it comes to gaming. The most interaction they get is some text in LoL. Obviously this would be a sweeping generalization and is far from an accurate depiction of the average PC gamer.
I get what you mean, PC gaming has come along way in regards to finding a home in our living rooms but like i say all of my mates game on PSN. I did used to game on PC but honestly have a better laugh on consoles now. I don't like offset sticks so using an Xbox pad isn't feasible either, i have tried a PS3 pad on a PC but it just didn't feel right.
Important thing is to have fun! And if that is using a PS4 then that's what's right for you :) Gaming is always more fun with some friends. So I get you..I really do.
We call them Pr!ck's round here :)
20 FPS is pathetic on any platform. 30 FPS is the absolute minimum, and that's a low bar.
EFFIN FANBOYS PS4 GAMEPLAY DOESNT DIP TO 15 FPS MY ASS JUST TRY FIGHTING IFRIT!!!! SHIT DIPS TO 5 FPS!
Just out of interest how did you test the claimed 5fps results on PS4?
I have it on both consoles and pc
I swear FFXI on PS2 would dip to like 0.2 fps. As in you would get a frame maybe every 5 seconds while your system was trying to process ten thousand actions going on around you at once.
I'm confused, who's getting 20FPS on ps4? Maybe the swamp areas dips below 30FPS every now and then, but didn't that improve that a little? Did people really complain enough to warrant an article?
It's the media. Most people don't notice or complain about the the issues until the Internetz tells them to complain.
Somebody needs to rig a PS4 or Xbox One with 3.4+ GHZ CPUs so we can finally see what the real bottleneck is .. We all know it's the CPU 1.6 - 1.75 GHZ lol
Agreed. I would have spent 100 more for a 500 dollar PS4 with a marginally better CPU. Edit: I almost wonder if including the cell again would have made it more powerful.
One of the main reasons PS4 is clearing house this gen is because of how easy it is to develop for. I'm no developer, but I imagine that if they used the Cell instead of AMD, then the PS4 wouldn't be performing nearly as well in sales or third party development. This coming from a self declared xbox fan. Sony did it right this gen
20fps games because Microsoft and Sony both cheaped out on the CPU and they don't care how buggy games are when they release on their platform.
how is it sony's fault when they're not the one's making a buggy game? Either learn to optimize better or sacrifice some areas in graphics to keep FPS steady. If I were to make the most polygon heavy/most AI heavy game and release it on pc/ps4/xbone and it ran at 1FPS or less, then by your logic, it would be their fault and not mine...
Tbh, PS4 is not extremely powerful... Devs don't want to lower their standards just to be able to run their games extremely well on consoles.
Personally if I ran a console business I wouldn't want the negativity that comes from games running bad on my platform. But Sony and Microsoft don't seem to care about that negativity if it's not directly their game.
Why does most gaming media still root for the xbox. Whenever it actually does something better it's a huge deal. When ps4 does someth8ng better it's a small mention. Also I would never have clicked if I saw it was gaming bolt. Last gen everything the 360 did better was shouted from the rooftops over and over. This gen it's so funny how resolution and anything else the PS4 does just doesn't matter. Sleep better tonight people and keep drinking that Kool aid. This console "war" is by far the most immature stupid thing I've witnessed. I come here to check out game info just like last gen and all its become is a retarded argument over and over.