Some gamer's may think that owning tons and tons of video games is a good thing to have right? well there is a downside to this believe it or not.
Not everyone has the shelf space to keep consoles. having the games is easy enough since DVD/Blu Ray cases are easy to store and have lying around. Even better if your shiny new console provided ways to play older games. Whether it's native, through emulation or a paid rental service. I'm all about convenience.
Yeah, backwards compatibility is a must, especially in an age with so much digital content. It's not like you need to keep your old phone/computer/music player etc. around to play old content when you upgrade, is it? Video game consoles shouldn't be the special exception to this. It's an established rule with the vast majority of digital content. Buy digital music? It works on new devices you buy. Purchase digital apps? They work on your new phones when you upgrade. Purchase digital games on PC? They work when you upgrade your hardware. Buy digital movies or TV shows? They all work when you upgrade hardware. This used to be the case for video games as well, but now certain companies are trying to move away from that and just so happen to conveniently have ridiculously priced remasters and streaming subscription services to do the exact same thing? Disgusting. And besides, who wants to have a whole bunch of consoles under their TV? Do these same people have a whole selection of phones in their pockets that they carry around everywhere? Do they have five or six desks with different computers on for doing work? A stack of media players depending on if they want to watch DVDs, Blu-Rays or digital content?
LOFL. Give it a rest dude.
I'm not gonna get into a debate with most of the absolute nonsense in your post because it would be pointless, so I'm just gonna touch on one part. Also, although I'm replying to a statement you made I'm not aiming this directly at you because that would also be pointless because of your obvious bias, lack of understanding and inability to be reasoned with on this topic. I'm aiming this at the people who will read your comment and not recognize it for the attempt at trolling it really is. "streaming subscription services to do the exact same thing? Disgusting." The PS Now service that is being referred to here is not just an attempt at backward compatibility. Backward compatibility on gaming systems means that newer models/versions of the system will be able to play games that were designed for older models/versions. For example the xbox one being able to play 360 games. That is backward compatibility. Companies do this in order to entice gamers to upgrade to newer consoles while giving them the assurance that they would still be able to play their older games. Herein lies the reason why PS Now is NOT designed with backwards compatibility as the reason for it’s existence and why the above comment can be identified as absolute trolling. PS Now is designed to give everyone, even non playstation gamers, access to the entire catalogue of PS games from the ps3 back to the PS1 era. PS Now is already available on TV’s, Phones and PS systems with PC support coming in the future. If this was meant to be backwards compatibility then they would have just limited it on the PS4 ALONE, like certain other console manufactures are currently doing. This service is designed to entice more casuals and even non gamers to experience Playstation gaming, as it is known that hardcore gamers tend to keep their old systems after they buy new ones. It is actually a great way for sony to make money off of their ps catalogue from people who wouldn’t have cared otherwise. They can actually make gamers out of non gamers. The reason why they do not have PS4 games on this service is to not hamper the sales of PS4 systems. The consoles are still aimed, and will be preferred by the hardcore gamers. Simply put, PS now is NOT an attempt at backward compatibility and seeing that the poster above is so concerned about space for multiple consoles, he should actually love ps now because you don’t even need a single console to use it.
"Yeah, backwards compatibility is a must" History has proven it isn't. OT - I used to keep my old consoles and games, thinking I'd eventually play them again, but it never happened so I stopped that practice for the most part. I still have my PS3, but it's mostly because I'm too lazy to unhook it for a trade in. I also don't have a need to free up that entertainment center shelf for something else.
So this method of playing old games on new hardware is completely different to that method of playing old games on new hardware? Interesting. Since you're taking the time to troll, I'd love to hear your argument that water is not wet as well.
Actually it used to be the case where consoles DIDNT have BC. That company you hate so much made it a mainstream feature that you now demand. We all know BC wasnt possible with PS4 because the PS3 was so exotic so give it a rest. What do you want Sony to do, put a Cell chip in every PS4 so it can play old games? Personally I'll always have a PS3 under my TV right next to my PS4 because I've never owned a standalone Bluray player so its no big deal for me. I kind of doubt you want to play old PS3 games anyway so no BC isnt a big deal to you either. BC is an issue when consoles are new and there arent many games. 2 years into a life cycle you should have plenty to play. Its great XBOne is getting it now, but you should be more worried about whether there are enough new games on the system than how many old ones you can play.
"We all know BC wasnt possible with PS4 because the PS3 was so exotic so give it a rest. What do you want Sony to do, put a Cell chip in every PS4 so it can play old games?" Absolutely. That's how they always did it in the past, the PS2 had the PS1 CPU inside and when the PS3 launched they had the 60GB version with the PS2's Emotion Engine inside. They gave consumers a choice and said that if you want BC, here's a more expensive version of the console that's available. Surprise surprise, more people bought the 60GB version than the 20GB version without BC. They should have done exactly the same thing with the PS4 if software emulation was too tough for them, just have a more expensive version of the console with a Cell processor inside to enable BC. I mean they were making a big deal about respecting consumers and wanting to give people choice before the console launched, after all. "I kind of doubt you want to play old PS3 games anyway so no BC isnt a big deal to you either." Typical fanboy trolling. Why would someone want BC if they're not going to use it?
"Yeah, backwards compatibility is a must" Yeah, i agree i mean without it you would miss on a *rare* game like Call of duty ?! http://www.gamerevolution.c... It's the most wanted game from Xbox gamers after all. Anyway, History show that BC is something that most ignore/don't care about it.
@Ezzz "Anyway, History show that BC is something that most ignore/don't care about it." I must have missed that history lesson, care to point to a link that proves your point? Because it seems most people are requesting games to be BC compatible. https://xbox.uservoice.com/... Not to mention it was one of the top 5 most requested feature on that forum by most people. Maybe it's some alternate history that you're referring too.
I have every system and game(cept ones that were "borrowed" by friends) I ever bought back to the Atari 2600. I do not keep any of the old systems hooked up thou. If I really want to play an old game thou I usually just dl an emulator.
Lol. "Not everyone has the shelf space to keep consoles" If you havent the shelf space to keep consoles you should be worried about sorting out your life if you havent the space for something so small. To answer the question, i think its a smart idea to keep old consoles if there are a lot of backlog of games someone would like to play.
"If you havent the shelf space to keep consoles you should be worried about sorting out your life if you havent the space for something so small" ^^ The man with infinite shelf space. Are you telling me that having a setup where my PS4, Xbox One, Wii U, PS3 and Xbox 360 all in the same space could not pose a problem? Your solution is to build a bigger shelf? Right...
@ gangsta_red Funny you mention shelf space when the Xbox One is a console that demands so much of it. Between the size of the console, to the cable box you have to have plugged into it to use the TV features, the external hard drive you have to hook up to it to expand the memory, and/or the kinect that is nearly the size of some consoles; it's no wonder some Xbox One owners don't have shelf space. It must be really convenient to have multiple devices plugged into one device in order to fully utilize it's advertised features.
"it's no wonder some Xbox One owners don't have shelf space. " Well there you go. You're in agreement with him. The Xbox One is so big it already takes up so much space so he needs more and BC helps him in that regard.
You left out the external power brick
This guy r2oB just proved my point! LOL Exactly, the Xbox One is soooooo big that I can't possibly have that and my 360 slim on the same shelf. Plus add in the cable box, my PS4, the Kinec, my PS4 camera and any other little nick nack and now you see the importance of BC. Now you see where I'm coming from.
@Crimson- " They gave consumers a choice and said that if you want BC, here's a more expensive version of the console that's available. Surprise surprise, more people bought the 60GB version than the 20GB version without BC" What? http://community.us.playsta... and http://www.amazon.com/PlayS... Sooooooo you don't know what your talking about. "Just like the 60GB model, this system has full hardware backwards compatibility and will play the vast majority of PS2 games" and "Yes, you can play PS1&PS2 games on it" Um.... I see. "Yeah, backwards compatibility is a must" No...keeping your older consoles is a must. MS BC won't be native, PS Now isn't BC bud and its not native, you need to stream it and it doesn't even support all titles soooooooooo want those old games? Keep your old consoles, easy. Soooo keeping your old systems is a must, it beats streaming, it beats limited BC. (I'm not sure why your still on this PS Now being BC when its on other systems, must be payed for and for streaming) Its not free, its not BC, you can't put in a PS3 disk in a PS4 and it works...thats not what its for, thus its not BC lol. " who wants to have a whole bunch of consoles under their TV?" Real gamers bud, I'm sorry fanboys don't get that owning consoles is sorta part of the hobby =) Also....you don't got a box to put them un when they are not in use? Who said you need to have every last device under a tv? Sooooo you think PS Now is for BC, don't see to get its a pay service that works on PS3 along with PS4 along with some tvs.. You think PS3's 20gb doesn't play PS2 games and think that Sony had 1 with BC, one without LMFAO! You also seem to think that you MUST have them all out under your TV on 1 shelf (as if a closet doesn't exist in your home) ....I'm sorry but your credibility is pretty shot on this one, your post are pretty meaningless if your defense is a bunch of lies and misinformation along with stupid, stupid logic. My PS2 in my closet says hello, turns out it can be played if I take it out of garage...turns out it doesn't need to be under my TV for it to be used afterwards...crazy huh? @Gangsta Red- "Not everyone has the shelf space to keep consoles" Sooo you don't have a box? Don't have storage? Who said it needs to be on a shelf? I have my Wii and Gamecube boxed up, but bring them out to play older titles when need be, same with my PS2 which I brought out recently to play Killer 7 and Onimusha 2. Stand back guys, Crimzon and Red believe all your consoles MUST be under the TV, they can't be stored, can't be put in a box else where etc. Whats next? Inputs Red be like "Most TV's don't have the inputs for all those systems, they only come with enough AVs, HDMI's etc so it can't be done ever in life bro" lol
I don't think I can be bothered with boxing and unboxing my old console and constantly taking them out of our loft.
it's called convenience. just like how blu-ray players can also play dvd's. it's called convenience. one unit to play both. no need to go back to the xbox 360 controller and have two separate systems all wired up if you can just use the xbox one. unless of course your game is not compatible yet. i've never seen someone spend so much time trying to downplay a feature that is free and also the number one requested feature by it's owners.
Uh oh, here comes E-Mix with the simple solution of packing and unpacking every time a person feels nostalgic. Good for you, but what's good for YOU isn't necessary or practical for everyone else. Something you can't seem to fathom in any of your long winded replies. And you seem to have missed the part where I said ... "I'm all about convenience." Such a lame fight of desperately trying to downplay BC. But yet you say... "Red be like "Most TV's don't have the inputs for all those systems, they only come with enough AVs, HDMI's etc so it can't be done ever in life bro" lol" That was hilariously stupid and just shows how lame you really are.
@Septic- "I don't think I can be bothered with boxing and unboxing my old console and constantly taking them out of our loft" Guess your not a gamer enough bud. The excuse is pretty tired. Got many consoles, I have no reason to give them away or sell them....I game. I don't just game for 1 gen and then start over, as much as you and your fanboy buddies are trying desperately try and make it seem as if its some difficult impossible task to save your old systems. First....BC is a MUST because of your large library....so not keeping the system that plays those games is not important? Sooooooo you do know that MS BC with XONE likely won't support ever single last 360 game right? Sooo even a 360 to an XONE with BC is superior vs JUST BC. You can't say a feature is SOOOOOO important to you, then not have the actual system. If you don't have a 360 and sold it....clearly its not that important to you. You merely can't have it both ways, its either it wasn't that big of a deal thus you didn't keep your 360, or its sorta a big deal...thus you kept your 360. I don't get the whole "I sold it" or "I traded it in" then...."thats why BC is important" ???? LMFAO! SOooooo the feature your saying is important is also the one you willingly gave up and sold or traded in etc? I don't mean you in general as much as I mean the silly argument regarding its importance. Its ironic that the 3 making the excuses on why one shouldn't keep an old system, are the same ones stating how important the very same feature in LIMITED FASHION is SOOOOO important. The irony is just too much. Know why BC means nothing to me? I own a PS3 and PS4.... my older systems are so important to me and my hobby that its not an option to sell them, they have value to me, thus....they are not sold, they are not traded in and shelf space or input space isn't some factor into not keeping them LMFAO! If I don't have the room for them, I merely box them up and only bring them out when I'm planning to play certain games. Words like "couldn't be bothered" don't factor with me. I game, its what I do. I have old consoles in my gauge because they are clearly worth something to me and are part of the hobby I'm in. I'm sorry but its pretty clear that those who are trying to exaggerate limited BC on XONE, don't really care about the feature as much as they care about telling folks about the feature...if it meant that much to you....you wouldn't be without it in the first place. Ask me now how badly I want Sony to put BC in PS4? (stairs at PS3 slim next to my PS4) lol.
I SALUTE YOU SIR. SOMEONE GETS IT. "You can't say a feature is SOOOOOO important to you, then not have the actual system. If you don't have a 360 and sold it....clearly its not that important to you" Agreed. They love those games so much, they got rid of the ONLY console that can play them ALL. Brilliant! *Ask these same guys how often they want to play these old games. Like really. You're playing or WANT to play Omega Boost & Jersey Devil everyday. PUH-LEEZ *... And if you do. Wouldn't you keep the console under your tv anyway? BS excuses are BS
I like your posts They are pretty damn long though lol.
"Guess your not a gamer enough bud. The excuse is pretty tired." Yea, because everyone has to game like you right. "I don't just game for 1 gen and then start over, as much as you and your fanboy buddies are trying desperately try and make it seem as if its some difficult impossible task to save your old systems." For some unknown reason your reading comprehension as usual just seems to slip over your knot. Not everyone has the same set up as you, not everyone owned every console like you, not everyone has a huge house with a separate gaming room to fit every console like you and your fanboy brethren make it out to be. "You can't say a feature is SOOOOOO important to you, then not have the actual system. If you don't have a 360 and sold it....clearly its not that important to you." Wow, DAT LOGIC! Maybe you're hurting for cash and sold your 360 to put towards an X1. Maybe your 360 just doesn't work anymore, maybe you never had a 360. But nope, 'ol Mix here has everyone figured out and it's just that simple guys: If you sold your 360, that means BC wasn't that important to you to begin with. I mean lets not even consider how BC was the top 5 most requested feature on the Xbox forums. Naaaaw, obviously no one wants BC because it's as simple as keeping their 360 right next to their X1 like Mix here says EVERYONE should. "Ask me now how badly I want Sony to put BC in PS4?" And here's what it comes down to folks...No one cares what YOU want Edmix. But the majority DO want BC for their X1. For a person who doesn't own an X1, doesn't need BC, you sure are on some type of holy crusade trying to prove to everyone how they don't need it too. Bud.
@mold- "it's called convenience" Yes...convenience, its not a must, merely "convenient" lol Its a MUST for me as to why I still own my PS3 along with my PS4. I'm not downplaying its "convenience" in fact I agree, it is purely that...."convenient" . A must? Would you not by an XONE because it wasn't there? No and no. If its a must, then clearly keep your 360, its pretty simple bud. You can't try to make BC this huge deal as for BC to be a huge deal, you would have needed to not have a 360 in the first place.... But that within itself is catch 22.... soooooooo the feature you going crazy about wasn't enough to buy used cheap online? Oh.... Soooooo the feature isn't worth the money? If thats the case....how much is XONE's BC feature that is limited? If it means that much to you, you'll actually never be without one, if its such a big deal, you won't sell it, its really that simple. You and your little squad keep trying to have it both ways and it just doesn't make sense lol. I value my PS3 backlog quite a bit, enough to keep my PS3, enough to have it side by side with my PS4. Why? Well clearly its a feature for me WORTH BUYING, WORTH KEEPING, and WORTH NOT GETTING RID OF! How did you go nuts for BC? Soooo your happy about a feature that limited? About a feature you could have the full version of a year and half ago for less then $60? Really? Sounds to me like your happy about a bragging point, your happy about a bullet point. Like I stated before, ask me again how I feel about PS4 and BC....
All I'm reading is ME, ME, ME, ME. "Soooo your happy about a feature that limited?" A feature that's free and growing everyday, Yes. "About a feature you could have the full version of a year and half ago for less then $60?" Yea, and play it on your X1 without having to unpack and pack your old console, Yes. Why does this concept escape you bud? Ooooooh that's right you have every console available to you for you to unpack and pack again. I forgot you got it so good and everyone should have it just as good as you too. Or else they're not a gamer. Dat logic! Like I said elsewhere ask me why we should care how you feel about BC...
@G-Red "for YOU isn't necessary or practical for everyone else" This just in, packing up game consoles and storing them isn't "practical", but not gaming on them at all and waiting for limited BC is..... Gangsta Red everyone. You seem to be more fanboy then gamer, I'm not even sure why a gamer would state, limited functionality and support is better then more consoles... Sad. Sorry but, I got my consoles stored up and I have no plans to sell them. I wouldn't jump for joy if any company announced limited BC... Why? Oh...your announcing that I can do what I've been doing on a system I already own? Oh but limited? I see lol. Should get your gamer card revoked.
I keep my favorite games but don't care to keep everything. Mostly I like having the original cases and art for Sega Master System, Genesis, SNES, and NES. I keep some Xbox games that work on 360. Shenmue 2, kotor 1&2, Nfl2k5, etc...but I just don't have room for everything.
I keep all my consoles and games mainly so one day I can hand them down to someone and seem like the coolest dude ever to someone that appreciates retro. Possibly a son one day.
I don't have quite as big a backlog as that, but I do play on my older consoles from time to time, as for the accumulating ps+ games, I'll actually try out some (the ones that I can tell that just aren't for me, though I just delete). I do however feel for you. Like BillytheBarbarian said, I also just keep my favorite games for my older consoles, and just get to 'em when I get to 'em.
Personally, I just like collecting and I wouldn't plan on ever selling any of my consoles.
Got rid of my PS2 and I'm now playing those disk isos on my PC. Better visuals and I get to use the dualshock 4. Once I was able to play Xenosaga in 1080p, I never looked back.
That's a personal call. I'd say if you haven't played a game by the time the console is replaced with the next gen, you'll probably never play it. Also more often than not, the rose colored glasses of time make the memories of old games better than they really are when you go back and play them. But if you have room or like collecting, there's nothing wrong with it and it doesn't really hurt anything. One bit of advice though, game collecting can get addictive and before you know it you'll be spending far more time getting more games than playing. If it's a hobby to just collect more than play that's ok. But make sure you allow time for playing too.
I'm still keeping my ps3 there's about 8 games I need to finish including Ni No Kuni and Nier (I was curious about Nier after Nier 2 got announced at e3) I wish I had my ps2 still i really feel like playing dragon quest again
I have kept all my old systems and games. I actually have a smaller older style tv set up in the corner of my den that can have 2 systems hooked up at a time. The rest stays packed away and I just swap them out as needed. Actually played soldier of fortune 2 on the og xbox recently, love that game and many many others.
I admire this kind of setup and aspire to have something similar when I can accommodate the additional real estate necessary for an old tube TV. :)
Yes, I keep my old stuff so I can one day laugh at my gaming tastes from a decade ago.
I love all my good old games more than the newgen ones.. but somehow I keep playing the newgen ones most... weird
I keep them all. Physical > Period. Sorry, but I don't really understand what this guy is going on about. I'd rather have too many games to play than not enough. Be thankful! I think this guy's real problem is he's buying too many games relative to his free time allocatable to playing video games and overwhelming himself. Once again though, I don't really see how that's a huge problem unless he's paying the full $60+ for every single one of them. I have a massive PS3 backlog but whenever I have free time or am needing a break from the "latest and greatest" on the PS4/Xbox One, I fire up a PS3 game and usually don't play anything else until I get the Platinum/100% of the trophies. That forces me to finish them. At this rate, I'm at about 2-3 of those per month, which is OK with me. It's no race.
I'm definitely keeping my PS3 mainly to clear the backlog. I'll eventually get a PS4 but I see no need to sell the PS3 and games in case I get nostalgic and want to fire up Ni No Kuni or Red Dead Redemption again.
If you think backlogged is bad...how many games did you stop playing and eventually planning to return to? Your work in progress games? I bet that's a waaay longer list!
??? That is like asking if its worth having air in your lungs! I game, its what I do, sooooo having game consoles to play games is very much "worth it" lol I have my PS2 slim out playing Killer 7 a few days ago along with Onimusha 2. The reality is...I game and I own many games, I see no reason to not own a system to let me play a game that was not ported over, that didn't get an update, remaster, HD upgrade etc. Sooooooooo yes, I'll keep my PS2, PS3, Wii (as it doubles as my Gamecube), N64 is still out from playing Mario Party 3 lol. I don't get the idea of folks who sell their game consoles yet have back logs....clearly you don't game THAT much or clearly your not THAT much of a gamer if you don't keep or value your older systems. Why should I sell my PS2? Did Yakuza 1 and 2, Onimusha 1-4, Killzer 7, DQ VIII (to another PS console anyway) DQ VII etc get ported over? Yet....get rid of the system to play those games? Games are game regardless of age, regardless of what they look like... Consider gamers spent a gen playing the Wii and the hardware was legit a gamecube....sooooooooo in that regard are they visually not seeing content that would be similar to the gen prior? Hummmmm yet they live lol Even when I hear those who played RE2002 remake for the FIRST TIME this gen, congrats.......I've been playing it for over 10 plus years.....on my Wii / Gamecube same with Zero. It may be a new game to you, it was an old game to me, I never let not owning a console, stop me from playing a game, especially when I have a damn backlog for it, that is just insane and just makes no sense. http://www.amazon.com/gp/of... Sooooo less then $40 used is stopping you from playing GameCube backlog of titles that may never get ported? http://www.amazon.com/gp/of... Soooo less then $50 is stopping you from again playing a backlog that likely won't get ported? Legit, if you really, really like gaming, just do yourself a favor and get some old systems to play some of those backlogs, some of those titles may not get ported and I see no reason to wait years for a if when you can sorta play it that very day with the needed console. I know many didn't play Onimusha as a series and hope Capcom ports the titles over, I do, but at least I don't "need" to rely on them to port it to play it, many might never know that series just based on not waiting to buy a old PS2 and the games used.
the more Backlog games .. more Money Wasted ..
Wasted? looks like your in the wrong hobby.
I have like 5 consoles under my TV so yes.. IT's worth it!
Yup, simply because sooner or later you're gonna want to play them and guess what sh*t is maaaad expensive out there. Kinda frightening actually. So keep what you have. Especially since it seems we, as a collective cant agree or seems to get the message across to the hardware manufactures that backwards compatibility is essential NOT an option for three mildly cognitive disabled boys from the sticks.
Nothing beats to have your walls full of games. Have 1600 games right now. All from Nintendo, Sony, Sega, Microsoft, PC games and much more. Digital library or BC can just go away from my home. It's the best for me, playing the game on the console it was made for it the first place. Like BC on Xbox One I couldn't care less. Much better to fire up my Xbox 360 with the original origin with controller/console hooked up to my TV's. Have 46 consoles to date, keeping them all at my home. It is totally worth it.
nawh not for me. If one box could do it all, that would be preferable. At least one generation backwards. I won't ever need a 360 again, that's convenient for me. I don't like the idea of having numerous boxes around. // PS3,360,PS4, Xbox ONE, wii(U) and so on. NOPE.
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