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The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Valve & Left 4 Dead Galaxy - VAC 3, Left 4 Dead PS3, Piracy,

WhatIfGaming writes: "You all love Left 4 Dead as much as we do by now and it's definitely one title that's a guaranteed grab when it comes out November 2008. To keep you sedated, check out this interview with everything Left 4 Dead, and a little more with Valve themselves."

Really good interview for Left 4 Dead and with Valve

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cp685750d ago

After what they've done with Orange Box PS3 ( http://orangeboxpetition.co... , i see absolutely no reason to even think purchasing left 4 dead (if it hits sony's console).

Real gamer 4 life5750d ago

Is left 4 dead really coming to the ps3? Yes no maybe? can anyone enlighten me?

cp685750d ago

Well, nothing's been confirmed yet, however i'm guessing it will eventually. But even if it does, i advise you to not purchase it...i mean just look at what they've done to poor Orange Box

Real gamer 4 life5750d ago

Man but i thought that they fixed the orange box? didn't they?

cp685750d ago (Edited 5750d ago )

Oh no they didn't...you know what they did fix? One and only one issue, that basically wouldn't let us connect to EA ONLINE if on the XMB we had over 24 friends or something like that..maybe 27. Now it's like 40 friends..and as you know, we can now have 100 friends on XMB..

Real gamer 4 life5750d ago

Man that sucks big time. Thank for letting me know though. Bubbles for your help.

TheIneffableBob5750d ago

Jesus Christ.
Give it a rest already!

SpaZaA5750d ago

I agree, Jesus really needs to give it a rest, what with all the miracles and resurrecting and walking on water and such.
I prefer my fiction to have better plots.

morganfell5750d ago (Edited 5750d ago )

My issue isn't with a PS3 version but rather with the central technical hook (not marketing hook) of the game in general. Michael Booth authored the Counterstrike Bot (as stated in the interview) and was a major force in Condition Zero (a fact only slightly referenced in the interview). I own CZ and if you played it then you know it is crap. That isn't exactly a flashing neon sign for design nor a promising proof of concept of immersive adaptive AI. Not what one would call a display of brilliance.

Advancements have been made in AI but we were told prior to the CZ release that the AI would learn how to play each map and "adapt" to become smarter and smarter. Adapt to the way the player performs. Sound familiar?

So until the game comes out I will paint this one with a little more skepticism as we have been handed this tagline before. Remember, "Fool me once, shame on you..."

But to mention the PS3 version, do not try to sell me a new product until you have made at least a respectable effort of fixing the last one. I personally do not care for anymore Valve products on the PS3. They have made it abundantly clear they do not care for the PS3 in the least. A business decision and a personal stance that will undoubtedly come back to haunt them.

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pwnsause5750d ago

left4dead on PS3 would just be the same as the orange box for PS3, with more lag, unstable framerate and ugly textures unless valve optimizes the code of the Source engine on PS3, just like how Epic optimized the UE3 engine on PS3. but we know valve wont do it, cause they hate the PS3. unless, UNLESS, sony does the same thing to what they did to epic to optimize the code, $MONEY$

cp685750d ago (Edited 5750d ago )

You're saying the entire UE3 engine was ported on PS3? That's why it turned out great? Can you give out some more informations on that, maybe some links please? I mean so much more people would be interested in Orange BOx than in UT3, so why didn't they just port the SOURCE engine on PS3?

pwnsause5750d ago (Edited 5750d ago )

what I am saying is the reason why UE3 now runs well on the PS3 is because Sony payed Epic not only to bring Unreal Tournament III as a Time exclusive last year, but also to optimize the Unreal Engine 3 on the PS3. Remember E307 last year, you seem to forget that.

Now back to what I was saying about the source Engine. The Source Engine is a PC based engine. obviously porting the engine to PS3 has problems, hence the Orange box for PS3. Now, if sony payed valve to optimize the Source engine on the PS3 (valve built the source engine and licensed it to EA) Valve would do it, why because of the Greens man. MONEY.

But today we have the orange box, a lame attempt by EA to port a pc engine to the powerful, yet complex PS3 without changing the code to make it run properly.

cp685750d ago

So basically, to be able to get the SOURCE engine on Playstation3, Sony will have to pay Valve or Valve will have to pay Sony? And anyways, do you think Valve will accept? That's all i need to know now, thanks.

pwnsause5750d ago

im pretty sure that if sony pays a large sum of money to valve, im pretty sure they would accept.

testerg355750d ago (Edited 5750d ago )

Actually I think Sony helped Epic optimize their engine by bringing in a Sony programmer to help.

morganfell5750d ago

Doug Lombardi says that with the strength of Half Life and Team Fortress, doing a PS3 version was a slam dunk. Hey Doug, the only people that were slam dunked were PS3 owners.

He also talks about the wonderful team that worked on that project. He must have been thinking of some other game they worked on because PS3 OB wasn't one of them.

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power of Green 5750d ago

You crazy kids get L4D for your PC if you wan't to play it.

ICUP5750d ago

Better yet, torrent it.

solar5750d ago

good luck moron above me.

and agree with PoG. Valve games are the best on PC. this one will be great.

Obama5750d ago

For once I agree with pog, since I am getting the game for the pc. There's no way in hell I am getting a brickbox 360.

meepmoopmeep5750d ago

not interested in L4D.
anything coming from Valve to a PS console is something to stay away from anyway.

proArchy5750d ago

I would like to give this guy a hug for giving a straight forward answer on a PS3 version: Not in development, but still up for discussion.

SpaZaA5750d ago

this has already been stated months ago in a GameTrailersTV interview.

morganfell5750d ago

Half his answer was spin as he pretty much lauded the PS3 version as if it were a great endeavor.

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Most Offensive Video Games That Would Never Cut It Today

Times are changing, and these games would have never been made in today's climate.

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thorstein37d ago (Edited 37d ago )

Every single time someone uses this phrase whether it's music, movies, books, comics, video games, etc it's always the same claim.

The ubiquitous "they" won't allow it to be made. And every decade these claims are made the claimant completely ignores all the "offensive" material that is published when the claim is made.

In ten years, you can write a new article about how you can't make games like Helldivers 2, Resident Evil VIII, Mortal Kombat I, Dragon's Dogma 2, Alan Wake 2 etc etc etc any more.

MrBaskerville36d ago

Yeah, people wouldn't be constantly outraged if there weren't games that people found enraging. The whole SBI discourse shit wouldn't be a thing if all games were inoffensive. A game like Starfield can make a guy froth at his mouth, so there will always be room for a list like this.

0hMyGandhi36d ago

Normally, I'd be inclined to agree with you, but there are massive caveats.
TV shows like Venture Bros, Ren and Stimpy, and Aqua Team wouldn't/couldn't be made today. Hell, Ren and Stimpy was a *children's* show, same thing with Rocko's Modern Life.

It's not for some arbitrary reason, either. It's branding and IP alignment. Companies are far more risk-averse than they were when I was kid in the 90's. Of course, you have companies coming out of the woodwork to hell spur on similar content, but remember: Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon and some incredibly provocative material.

And for movies? it's pretty obvious. American Pie/Wedding Crashers/Eurotrip among many other "raunch coms" have fallen out of style, and are absolutely outside what the modern day film industry is willing to stand by.
Ace Ventura 1 and 2, Dumb and Dumber, Freddy Got Fingered, Rat Race, Harold and Kumar, and Van Wilder follow suit.

Remember: I am not explicitly talking about films put onto streamers. I am talking wide-releases in actual theaters. Same thing goes for games: Carmageddon, Duke Nukem, Manhunt, Six Days In Fallujah (with their original concept), Hatred, and so on and so forth. Of course, I'd be inclined to mention most tactical shooters like Rainbow Six and Joint Ops as well, due to cultural sensitivity regarding *who* you are shooting and why.

And not all of it is bad (obviously). Tastes change, and perspectives change to fit the demographic.
I should add that I'm a lefty, living in L.A. Working in film.

thorstein36d ago

The Boys, Invincible, Jojo Rabbit, Deadpool, Gen V, Last of Us, Banshee... There are plenty of media being made today that people will claim "can't be made today".

Profchaos36d ago

Yeah but if you consider manhunt which was basically a snuff film could you seriously make that game with high than PS2 era graphics.

thorstein35d ago

The Outlast Trials just came out.

But the storyline of Manhunt was that you were executed. But then lived. And if you didn't do as you were told, you'd die. And the people you killed were not innocents.

It was all filmed by a psychopath.

As we speak GTA VI is being finished up for a release. You get to play a Bonnie and Clyde type of protagonist who run up against the law.

Bodycam looks so real.

People are making those games. Articles like this will always exist no matter how incorrect they are, no matter how many times they blame "them" for whatever it is "they" do to prevent "those" games from being made.

Number1TailzFan36d ago

The UK is the biggest junk country pandering to that nonsense as well, with laws against free speech and expression to match. It got so bad even Rowan Atkinson made a video on free speech about it.

Now the UK raises the age rating on harmless films like Mary Poppins, it's just a load of pansy weak ass nonsense.

MrDead36d ago (Edited 36d ago )

The right wing Tories have been in power in the UK for the 14 years you know the ones that are "anti-woke", blame them for your perceptions.

Killer2020UK36d ago (Edited 36d ago )

Are these snowflakes in the room with us now?

This is more faux outrage designed to get hits. The consequences are unfortunately creating hysteria amongst those willing to buy into it and blame "them" or "the left" or "liberals" meanwhile the left are kicking off about genocide, actual real world abhorrent acts. Nobody is campaigning to censor this shit.

Huey_My_D_Long36d ago

Not too mention the fact that some of these game are controversial for you know, underage porn and encouraging rape.

So either the guy just came in to comment snowflakes without reading anything, or he is calling people snowflakes for having a problem with said titles. Crazy how much brain rot someone can have.

banger8837d ago

Dead Island: "The early PC version of the zombie game swapped the playable character Purna’s Gender Wars skill with a prototype name, which shouldn’t be mentioned directly. The skill name made fun of both Purna as a character and feminists."

"Feminist Whore" lmao

gold_drake36d ago

ill add one more to the list.
drakengard 1.

its ridiculous tho, especially since they'd still be able to find their place in alot of places in the world. except america of course ha. and maybe Australia.

ppl are so sensitive these days. ha. but it is what it is.

Barlos36d ago (Edited 36d ago )

They're not offensive.

And we need another Fat Princess. Fantastic little game!

Some people just have no sense of humour if this sort of thing offends them. They need to lighten up and stop taking themselves so seriously.

Deeeeznuuuts36d ago

Would love a new fat princess game 🤟

CantThinkOfAUsername36d ago

Games literally about sexual assault, mass genocide, bombing civilians, and school shooting. None of which is satirical.

isarai36d ago

Actually it's about fat princesses

Huey_My_D_Long36d ago (Edited 36d ago )

Its crazy that people are fixated on Fat princess when clearly the list is going over controversies, and not all of them are equal. Like way worse examples but pretend the entire list is like that.

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Left 4 Dead Writer Explains The Drawbacks Of Releasing Games In Early Access

He wants to launch all his projects initially through close beta.

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It's Time To Give Up On Left 4 Dead-Likes

TheGamer Writes "No game will ever surpass Left 4 Dead in the co-op horde shooter genre, so maybe it's time to move on."

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HyperMoused441d ago

True, id go for a complete remake of the original though

FPS_D3TH441d ago

It’s the simplistic design coupled with mod support that makes it unbeatable. I feel like it can only be succeeded by a remake or the same gameplay design with updated graphics, animations, weapons and new setting. Thing is, Valve doesn’t create or release games unless they feel it pushes the medium forward. They’re not interested in reselling the same content refreshed or not.

Number1TailzFan441d ago

It's also the simplistic design that makes it get boring after you've played it a bunch of times.

Concertoine440d ago

A significant evolution of the AI Director would be amazing. Increase the count for zombies on the map (which was low in the old games due to limitations of course). Make good maps (L4D1 style) and you have a very refined game

JL2930440d ago

That's all it needs, improved visuals and new maps.