Msxbox-World asks the question whether Volition's efforts can actually topple GTA IV as many gamers were left a little underwhelmed with Rockstar's efforts despite the huge praise it received from the gaming press?
I was sorely disappointed with GTA 4, I might rent this game before I decide to put down money on it.
Agree. At this point it doesn't sound impossible for a game to topple GTAIV, they went multiplatform and hurted the quality of the final product...it wasn't a game like Oblivion, Gears, COD4 or MGS4 if you ask me... a game that you see there on the top and putting the bar high for the other developers.
I think there's a general sentiment that once the honeymoon period wore off GTA IV was pretty barren, especially once you'd beaten the game, and in comparison to San Andreas. I also think GTA IV perhaps took itself a little too seriously in creating a more realistic slant and forgot about the fun factor - although the multiplayer made up for this to a certain degree. I thought (like many others) SAints Row was a darn good game for what is was, and that Volition should be able to improve upon what they accomplished.
GTA4 was fun while it lasted but once it was done there was no reason to go back. Plus the activities and the friendship system sucked. I thought the original Saint's Row was a blast because it didn't take itself seriously. The sequel seems to be in the same vein with more activities and much better graphics. Can't wait for this game.
Rockstar I believe went completely opposite of what they actually do. They put quality over quantity. Now lets see if Saints Row2 can deliver what some of us were waiting for from GTA4
Saints Row 2 will topple GTAIV easily.
I don't know. Original was horrible and this one doesn't look much better. Will wait for Prototype and InFamous for my sandbox love.
to be honest that is what came to my mind, after seeing gameplay for infamous i decided to buy that as my next sandbox title, i guess i'd rather shoot some lightning and run on the side of building and stuff for a change did they ever release any info on the karma system at all? i haven't heard anything on it
i see know need for comparison, this is their second next-gen game.....gta4 was rockstar's first. Besides, they pushed it back bcuz gta was so good so they've had time to add even more stuff...i just hope it isn't useless crap and all cartoon fun all the time....gta was alot more mature this time around, i for one liked the change.
Yeah i no what you mean about GTAIV being Mature this time around it was fun...till i beat it..then there was about no replay value. well not compared to Sam andreas.I think Rockstar wanted to try a more serious approach..it worked..it was a great game..but i dunno.. San andreas left some pretty big shoes to fill.
I agree with Canadianguy. It was fun for a few days, then it got so boring that there's no point of playing it anymore.
underwhelmed? The rabid fanboys on video game sites? Woah, big surprise there. Everyone I know that has GTA4 on either console, absolutely loves it. It is meant to be more "real" than the previous versions on GTA, thank god. Its meant to actually take a second to aim and shoot, and to have to slow down before you make a turn in your car, and it take real time to make it across town. To me GTA is the most definitive game of "next-gen" games. edit: @6.2: so GTA4 isn't a "sandbox" game now. Isn't a "sandbox" game just supposed to be a game where it is an open world and you can really do whatever you want, when you want? If it isn't, please explain. "I think that is apparent when most of the GTA videos you see around the net is people killing themselves in different ways." What does this even mean? They didn't do this with the other GTA games? Of course they did, it wasn't until much later in the games life that you started to see the real crazy stuff. Just because you didn't like the game, isn't a reason to think that it isn't a "next-gen" game.
totally agree with you...i love GTAIV, i beat the game in 100% and i can't wait for DLC episode, the online is great but in races it's getting annoying that some people or retard kids only enter the matches just to crash everyone
How could you not be underwhelmed? The game is meant to be a sandbox game, yet there's not much to do in the world. I think that is apparent when most of the GTA videos you see around the net is people killing themselves in different ways. The only thing to really do in the game is do all the missions which after about halfway through are just the same ones with a different story behind them. I really had a blast with the first half or maybe even 2/3 of the game, but the end felt like a chore to finish. Other than that, there really wasn't much to do.
mostly agree with you monty i like the updates that made it harder to drive and shoot my only major complaint is that the online portion people use auto aim what is the point of auto aim for online play? it just shows who locks on first, if the auto aim was completely removed from online i would be happy. I play matches only if auto aim is off the single player does get boring after you finish the story but that is what online is for imo
I somewhat agree about the online thing. I think Rockstar felt that the online portion would make up for the fact that they went for a realistic vibe, and therefore took out some things that could have been really fun to do. The problem with that is some people, myself included, didn't like the online (I am not saying it is bad, I am saying it is not for me) so now I am stuck with nothing to do in the single player.
GTA 4 was the most overhyped over rated piece of garbage to come out this gen... i was expecting so much more then what i got... and IMO that was because of a little format called DVD9 but im not getting into that right now... i played to about 50% of the game and played online for about a week before it just sat on my shelf collecting dust.. i traded that game in months ago and i can honestly say if i would have known i would never have dished out 90$ for the special addition.. alright story but one of the most repetitive games i ever played... Yawn
Wow, just wow. I don't really care if someone doesn't like GTA4, that is there own preference, or opinion if you may. But for them to say that GTA4 is some how limited because it was put on DVD9 is a fanboy comment. Because it wasn't. I have GTA4 on both my consoles, and it runs better on the 360 than my PS3. And you might ask, why does he have it on both consoles? Well because I normally play GTA on a PS, but MSFT bought exclusive DLC and I want to play the DLC. If you don't like GTA4, thats great, don't like it. But to try and say that I said if no one likes it that they are a fanboy is just being ignorant. Just because you are a blind follower of the PS brand, doesn't mean everyone is, some people can make there own choices based on there personal preference. I bet it is weird for you to try and choose on your own with out someone telling you what to like, isn't it?
These are your own foolish statements. "Who was left underwhelmed? The rabid fanboys on video game sites?" Hmmm... sure sounds like you are attacking anyone that didn't like GTA 4 to me. And now you are attacking me by saying I have no opinion of my own and calling me a blind follower of the PS brand. Lets look into the reasons for your attack. I simply quoted one of the men behind GTA 4 and his concerns with the DVD9 format. I did not even say I personally thought DVD9 limited the game. I just thought that it was silly to attack those that did by calling them a fanboy. I then provided evidence from one of the producers that dvd9 could have been a limiting factor. If anything you are one of those rabid fanboys on video game sites that you spoke of, jumping and going crazy on me for making a factual statement. @6.8 You are using a fanboy argument yourself with that 5 hour garbage. No one can beat MGS4 the first time around in 5 hours. If you watched those videos you can clearly see that those people mapped out every single facet of the game, know before hand what is going to happen and react sometimes even before an event occurs.
your right, anyone that didn't like GTA4 obviously came on to a video game site and voiced there dislike for the game. Stop it. didn't try to make it like the only people that didn't like GTA4 came to video game sites. Also, where did this developer of GTA4 say all this, because I would really like to know. So as far as I am concerned, you are a PS brand fanboy.
If microsoft doesnt do something about the storage capabilities of DVD9 they will not be making GTA5 on the 360! They were already frustrated that they had to make cuts to fit all the content onto 9 gigs! dont just come here and try to defend the 360 just because someone says something true about it! the FACT is that DVD9 can only hold 9 gigs so if you want great physics and graphics/anti aliasing ect. that stuff takes up alot of space! it has nothing to do with wich console the game runs on! what we are trying to say is that with all of GTA4 on blue ray there was still like 30 gigs of space left over on the disk that could have been used for other content or extra activities to add some replay value or diversity in the game!
All I know is that I think Mercenaries 2 is going to be hell of a lot more fun than either GTA IV or (especially) Saints Row 2. But, that is just me. Anyway, Saints Row has to be one of the cheesiest games I have played this gen. The blingy, bling gangsta wearing colors nonsense and taking over 'da streets' just made it intolerable for me. Just ughh. The dialog stunk so bad that it would knock you out faster than if a horse farted in your face. And it just had on overall low budget, generic GTA wanna be vibe to it that I personally found unbearable. So, in my mind, GTA IV is just on another level quality wise period, despite not having some of the elements in past games of the series that made it more fun, and less realistic. Anyway, based on my personal experience with SR, I am going to have to pass on the second installment. The whole blingy, bling, g-money gangsta scene just is not my thing at all, lol. Especially when it is steeped in extra cheesy, low budget production values. To each their own though.
Dont forget Mercs 2!! :)
It won't be hard to topple GTAIV. People talked about that game for about 1 week and a half then everyone went to play other games. People STILL TALK about halo 3. People STILL talk about COD4. People STILL talk about MGS4, gears of war, warhawk bla bla bla. Because these games are actually engaging and interesting. We talk about GTAIV, but not about really playing it. We just talk about the stupid controversy it generates and how some guy looked like niko and how it looked like new york. All saints row has to do is focus on the actual gameplay and not on the weird extras that GTAIV offered at the expense of fun.
with every game you talked about people talking about, because I don't think people still talk about MGS4, but thats just me. People still talk about those games because of there multiplayer, and thats it. Most games are forgotten on website a week or two after there release, unless they have an awesome multiplayer. The single player campaign can only get you so far.
monty you are very wrong with that statement the whole GENRE of RPG says hello millions of people who buy those games remember i still talk about FF7 that is single player in fact i would argue people forget games that have great online easier because they just get the next big online game but people always remember a good story
Saints Row 2 will be garbage. Mercs2 maybe.
No wannave GTA is going to top the REAL GTA.
i had more fun playing saints row 1 than GTA IV so yeah i think Sainta row 2 WILL kill GTA IV
im tired of sayin this but u ppl don't get it....GTA4 was and still is THE BIGGEST ENTERTAINMENT RELEASE EVER!!!........so no...it won't kill gta4 i seriously doubt any game being as big as gta4 especially not sr2 which i expect to look a lot less better and be more "fun" but will be about as exaggerated as gta3. So it'll be pretty unrealistic..im from ny so i can tell u first hand. gta was dead on...and hey....at least i can continue playing the game when im done.
GTA IV sucks , i don't care about the reviews , GTA SA is still the best GTA game ever , IV is boring and too realistic and there's nuthin 2 do after finishing it
Don't forget Just Caurse 2. The first one was Ok and had potential to be very good but did lack in controls and story. But i think this time around it will be a blast in the same category as Merc's 2. Saint's Row will be FUN...Pure fun, and we like that...or?
it wont be hard for mercs 2 to topple that overated-piece of sh1t we all call "GTA 4" i also belive saints row 2 will be much more fun, simply because the first one was more fun than GTA 4... but my main topic is Mercs 2... for those that dont know about this masterpiece... -you can call in 20 different airstrikes, some are: crusie missile, cluster bomb, laser-guided bomb, smart bomb, bunker buster!, and a tactical NUKE! -you have a HUGE list of 30 weapons(RPG, ak47,m4, snipers, anit-air launchers, c4, grenades...) -another REALLY HUGE list of about 130 vehicles you can drive, ranging from buggy's, light tanks, helicopter, cars, trucks, speedboats, dumpster vans lol, Heavy tanks... -plus you can call these vehicles in where ever you want...and they will be delivered to your location. - you can destroy everything except the terrain and rocks... -60 hours or so of gameplay. -great graphics -runs on havok 5.5 physics!
was a horrible game that the only reason it sold is because of the hype
no. looking past the hype GTA IV is amazing
GTA4 sucked ass, why is there a group of GTA fanboys who just wont admit this to themselves. If you have played all the games and think 4 is the best you must be deluding yourself. The one good thing it did do was expose the gaming press for the bunch of liars they are, it was clear proof that reviews can be bought as I cant see how every single one of them failed to remember themselves getting so bored while playing it which is what a lot of gamers now think of it:BOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRIIIIIINGG GGGG!!!!
iv played all the past games and was a massive fan and IV, IS the best by far, what did you want?! a GTA San Andreas clone with slightly shinier graphics.
Yes I would actually as it would be much better than GTA3 with shinier graphics aka GTA4.
Mercs 2 will no doubt be a great game if it delivers all that is promised, yet the game style is completely different to Saints and GTA even though they all fall into the sandbox category.
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