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Iwata's Sad Passing Puts Spiteful Devs And Demanding Gamers Into Perspective

WOW247: "It’s easy to forget that the people behind games (and movies, TV, books and all media in fact) are just that – real people.

"When we complain about not getting the Metroid game we wanted, or not getting Zelda U by the end of the year, these problems are petty compared to the personal struggles the people in the industry may be having."

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-Foxtrot887d ago

Is this guy really using Iwatas death to defend Nintendo and their decisions of late while trying to play down competitors.

"problems that are a lot more serious that Samus not being in the new Metroid"

"I could draw two conclusions from Mr. Iwata’s passing, the first is that Nintendo really are among ‘the good guys"

"hearts are certainly in the right place (i.e. not in their wallets"

"When we complain about not getting the Metroid game we wanted, or not getting Zelda U by the end of the year, these problems are petty compared to the personal struggles the people in the industry may be having, and his battle with cancer proves just how petty"

Jesus man. ¬¬

shodan74887d ago

No. He's using it to point out that though we may well have valid criticisms of developers, publishers and major companies, gamers' passion and enthusiasm can sometimes lead to a situation where we continually berate the people behind our favourite games in a way slightly out of scale with the issues at hand.

Iwata spent some of his last months on this earth dealing with widespread consternation and apologising for things that, when you think about it, probably aren't quite as big a deal as were made out.

I think most of us are guilty of over-reacting at times, without thinking about the effect that may have. I know I am.

ShugaCane887d ago (Edited 887d ago )

I think that, whatever the subject is, there is nothing to debate over one man's death. All we have to do is send our prayers to his family. And may he rest in peace.

-Foxtrot887d ago

" He's using it to point out that though we may well have valid criticisms of developers, publishers and major companies, gamers' passion and enthusiasm can sometimes lead to a situation where we continually berate the people behind our favourite games in a way slightly out of scale with the issues at hand"

And for that he needed to bring up a man who's JUST died to somehow prove his point. I'm pretty sure he could have done the article without doing that

It just comes across as someone who is using the guys death as a way of defending Nintendo and their decisions of late...which in my opinion is highly disrespectful. I mean their recent E3 comes into play quite a bit in the article and despite apparently being a look into the ENTIRE INDUSTRY he only seems to focus on Nintendo.

So I'm sorry but that's what it's come across like and it's in pretty bad taste in my opinion when the poor guy has just died.

Like ShugaCane has said above whatever the subject is you shouldn't debate in an article about a guys death...or for that matter use it as a way to create an article over Nintendo's struggles and how we shouldn't "overreact".

Not cool man.

donthate887d ago

I think Iwata's death has nothing to do with fans complaining and yes, it can go overboard.

These are two separate things, keep em separate!

BenRage3887d ago

You are 100% correct shodan74. Foxtrot I have no idea where you are coming from.

I ask quite humbly that N4G users read the article before judging this writer too harshly.

Baka-akaB887d ago

Shame on the author ... before lecturing on entitlements or bad behaviors (wich is mostly a load of crap anyway) , he should look in the mirror and witness a douche using someone's death to make a widly unrelated point

4Sh0w887d ago (Edited 887d ago )

Nah, Ben_Rage_3 I read it and I agree with Foxtrots first post.

Baka-akaB I agree. I didn't see what one has to do with the other....things like disagreeing with Nintendo's direction & not liking what they are doing with Metroid are valid concerns to fire at him and Nintendo, but that should be separate from his death. We all should show respect for ANY human when they've just passed, doesn't mean we agree with all their decisions, but that debate is for another place and time.

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NintendoSonyfan887d ago

No he is basically saying "Hey a-holes who think that Samus not being in a Metroid game is the end of the world, remember that this mans world literally ended." Are you really that much of a d-bag as to think that everyone is trying to spin his death into anything other than a tragic loss for gaming?

tigertron887d ago

You can't use Iwata's death to defend his poor decisions.

Let's keep things separate here.

Neonridr887d ago

he also had some really great decisions too. Let's not solely remember him with Nintendo as of late, let's not forget his many accomplishments and accolades too.

mcstorm887d ago

I have found that this is a problem with people nowadays they judge on the small things. People forgot he made the Wii and ds a but success plus he gave us some of the best Nintendo IP's too.

For me this is not a day to this man did this wrong and that wrong or for people to say who cares about Nintendo because they are x y z.

Its a day to remember a man who has given the industry some amazing Memory's and also stood side by side with his words on games should be pure fun.

I'm not a fan boy of any one console I am a fan of gaming and this news is bad news in the gaming world no matter what console you own.

RIP and I hope Nintendo can carry on the good work you have done in your time at Nintendo.

Neonridr887d ago

@mcstorm - very well said.

BenRage3887d ago (Edited 887d ago )

I do not see it that way and here's why. The headline sucks, let's get that out of the way. But the article said this and I quote, "When the Wii U failed meet expectations for both shareholders and players he took a 50% pay-cut and apologised profusely to fans."

No where in the article does he defend Nintendo's decisions. All the author is saying is that when a company fails, you've never seen a more apologetic, & humble CEO. There isn't a single word in the article that defends Nintendo's decisions beyond that. He's defending Iwata if anything, which is noble, relevant, and appropriate because Iwata just passed.

"Iwata’s passing has brought together all sides of the gaming community, putting into perspective our often fickle, dismissive, and hostile criticisms." He is not saying the company cannot be criticised. He is talking about hostility, which is a very different thing.

What if one of your fathers (speaking to anyone on this forum) failed at running a business? Criticism would be valid, but not outright hostility and meanness. Do you see the difference? That is all this writer said, and I challenge anyone to offer up a quote from the article that says otherwise.

BenRage3887d ago

I really liked this article. It was humble, and a kind gesture toward an icon. For those who disagree, you are entitled to your opinion. Sometimes articles like these are subjective and are bound to be interpreted differently.

I think the writer's heart was in the write place, and I didn't find any of the content inappropriate.

I think shodan74 said it best, "He's using it to point out that though we may well have valid criticisms of developers, publishers and major companies, gamers' passion and enthusiasm can sometimes lead to a situation where we continually berate the people behind our favourite games in a way slightly out of scale with the issues at hand."

Baka-akaB887d ago (Edited 887d ago )

Wich got nothing to do with Iwata's passing , was too soon , and a sensational use of it . So nope i dont think the author's heart is in the write place , nor the argument expressed there even working .

This is Fox news level of guilt trip attempts instead of a true hommage

BenRage3887d ago

I don't want to argue with you. But using Fox news as a counter argument is pretty lame. Fox news has really good ratings for a reason. Juan Williams for example is a democrat who is on Fox news every day, because Fox news is much more balanced than the other networks.

I get it, you do not like Republicans, neither do I, but Fox news gets the news right more often the wrong. And they cite their arguments using facts. And the know how to spell the word "right."

Baka-akaB887d ago (Edited 887d ago )

I'm not even american nor live in USA , nor invested in any side between the dems and reps , so your whole "you don't like republicans" schtick and assumptions are ridiculous , especially for one that claim he doesnt want to argue .

Let's just not start over this precisely like you said . i'll stick with my fox example , precisely when they've been caught redhanded using tragedies to promote their beliefs and opinions instead of "simple" news reporting .

So i agree to wholly disagree here . Bye

Gohadouken887d ago (Edited 887d ago )

Nope, sorry , i disagree ...

It's basically trying to correlate his health issues with the WiiU's woes , and even the anger people directed toward Nintendo for their décisions , except the article doesnt "have the balls" to outright say so .

And all of that wrapped in a nice "see , Metroid becoming crap isnt such a big problems after all" bow . If not done with malicious intent , it's full of weird and flawed rethorics and amalgams and done in very poor taste and no sense of timing

BenRage3887d ago

Look, I don't want to argue with you either. It is subjective. You are entitled to your opinion. But I do not think anyone would agree that it was done with malicious intent. That is a very bizarre thing to say.

Gohadouken887d ago

Which part of the post wasnt my "subjective opinion" ? Why would you need to precise that ?

And it's funny and bizzarre how you essentially missed "IF" from the sentence and wanna get stuck on "malicious intent".

shodan74887d ago (Edited 887d ago )

Seems like we're in the minority here.

A lot of people seem to think this article is somehow attempting to inappropriately use a tragedy to justify Nintendo's policies. Nowhere in the blog do I see that line of argument.

On the contrary, I think it's mostly a warm tribute to one of the industry's greats ("he was a gamer first and a company director second...he was eager to please Nintendo’s fans, to entertain, and passionately believed in his company’s vision...Iwata’s passion for video games was unheard of for a CEO"), that happens to reflect on the sometimes excessive reactions we can voice when games companies don't quite get things right.

I think moments like this DO put some of our pettier grievances into perspective.

Gohadouken887d ago

Even if done in good faith , the timing is simply bad ... and the way things were argued and worded arent really tasteful and a good idea overall here .

Gwiz887d ago

Dafuq is this article?

TheEnigma313887d ago

It's quite disgusting to use this man's death to make Nintendo's recent decisions right. His death and Nintendo's decisions aren't mutually exclusive.

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