TechDaring: "Let’s face it, Nintendo is a great gaming brand, and definitely one we don’t want to see disappear. Let’s just hope they’ve got something great to reveal, but what a head spinner that could be for the two current leaders of 8th gen."
This Nx is more like a portable or Tablet than desktop hardware. So I think It will not compete with Xone / Ps4.
Because we know what the NX is.
It's Nintendo that have never had the most powerful console since the ps1 days
2pac: N64 had more raw power than PS1. Architectures were totally different and graphical rendering were very distinct but N64 was more powerful. OT: I think NX will be a special console with special features. The reason is that Nintendo don't wanna reveal it too soon so competition doesn't steal their ideas. NX imo will be a more powerful console much more social and open to smartphone market. Maybe a hybrid with VR tech and phones market places compatible and possibility to use any smartphone as second screen instead of gamepad flop.
They've never had a successful console outside of the original Wii either. So honestly I'm not expecting much on this front. Third party publishers just don't support Nintendo's consoles anymore. It's not going to change over night, it will be an incredibly hard sell to get third parties on this new platform when PS4/ONE have an install base closing in on 40 units sold (total). Nintendo's only hopes of seeing third party support is by making a console that's very similar to develop for. No gimmicks like motion controls or the gamepad, as it means extra work to develop for. That's a problem when developing for your platform is already a hard sell. I think Nintendo would benefit by keeping it simple. Make a console that gamers want, stop trying to chase the extremely casual audience. It's a very hard market to capture, but by making a console that focuses on their strengths, while making it a nice platform for third parties, I think they could be successful. Backwards online policies would need to go too though, else third party development just won't be worthwhile for a lot of popular multiplayer titles. The last platform that launched in this postion was the Dreamcast. Not suggesting Nintendo will repeat Sega's mistakes, but I do not feel that mid-generation is a good launch period of a new system.
What we know is, for the 1st time ever, the engineers that gave us Gameboy AND Snes are designing this together! For the 1st time ever, Nintendo devs won't have to split their time working on a handheld and a console (meaning no game droughts from now on) That's all they need to rule
Until it's revealed, the NX is nothing but their next piece of hardware. We can't make any assumptions beyond that.
I think, in general, Android and iOS are bigger competition for Nintendo than Microsoft and Sony. Thing is, Nintendo is the only one among the "Big Three" (or Big Four) that really caters to the ALL AGES demographic. And that's why Nintendo platforms aren't selling well--older gamers want platforms that cater mostly to themselves, and younger gamers have phones.
exactly this. Nintendo scooped up a huge casual market with Wii, but most of them then jumped ship to mobile/facebook gaming.
I think if Nintendo actually feels they have to cater in such a way, they are doing it wrong. Both MS and Sony cater to all generations by releasing games that appeal to a wide range of age groups. They don't try to make games which appeal to everyone, they make different games for different people. MS and Sony also work hard to get support, so they have even more software to appeal to that age range. I love Nintendo games, they're usually a lot of fun, and full of quality, but they look like kids games. Sure they throw an occasional bone to the older crowd, but those bones tend to be things like Bayonetta or Xenoblade, which have limited appeal, and ultimately fall more into the teenage range because of their art style. It's like Nintendo thinks that people think of their work as Pixar...stuff that can be enjoyed by all age groups...and it can be, but the reality of the situation is is that most of their work does not actually appeal to the mass market of older gamers beyond nostalgia. Honestly, I believe that Nintendo tries to focus too much into one way of doing things. They don't really branch out once they have their mind set on what they want to do. Their system seems very limited to many gamers(the mass majority ones who make up a bulk of sales) because they simply focus too much. After their two generations where they didn't seem to have a direction at all, they finally focused in hard on low costs and gimmicky control, which ultimately worked out well for them. This gen...they're focused on trying to be the game company they were in the NES/SNES days by releasing games that seem to harken back to those times(Japanese centric), yet they don't really do anything else. On top of this, when something doesn't work for them, they quickly move onto the next thing(WiiU->NX) or even when it's working, they move onto the next thing(3DS->N3DS). It's like they just want things to happen quickly, and don't bother cultivating their fan base beyond the die-hard Nintendo-ites and those who just consider their consoles OK for their kids to have.
With the disappointment of the Wii U, I'll tone down my expectations for the NX. Hope it's as good or better than PS4 and XBOX ONE, but I have to try to save myself from being disappointed.
Sorry can't hear you over my Splatoon and Smash Bros(arguably the most fun fighting game)
@zeref, wow, two whole games? that puts my xbox one library of 40+ to shame. Who needs games like the Witcher 3 or Batman!?
@zidane1341 which u can finish in a wkd given u'r past how repetitive and boring they become... I'm still playing splat, kart, smash and even Metroid every week, non stop and still having fun
Step away from the crystal ball. Slowly.
You hope, fanboy. It could be more powerful than both xbone and ps4. Nintendo already has the best software, if they have the best hardware to then that's good enough for me.
nintendo need a radical change in its approach for the NX to be respected among gamers. but since their e3 show focused on party games, mini game collections and amiibo, i dont think that will happen. i dont even think the NX is necessary. wwhy dont nintendo just focus on the wiiu- go all the way? the fact nintendo are willing to drop the wiiu on a whim like a hot sack of shxt shows total disregard to fans. i think it would be more beneficial to right the wrongs of the wiiu, then totally abandon it. lose the controller, cut the price. then you have an attractive console. it makes me think nintendo are only going to launch the NX because they know a new console launch will drive massive sales... they just want a big pay day. im anticipating the NX will be more powerful than the wiiu, but not advanced enough to be cutting edge- it will be right on the border of being obsolete tech... just enough to carry it for 3 years before that becomes blindingly obvious. at this point its clear nintendo will never fix its 3rd party relations, so any chance of competing with sony or microsoft is wild fantasy.
Sure, it could happen. But it could also be their worst. At this point we know nothing about the console other than the likelihood that it could launch well before devs have had time to familiarize themselves with the platform. Nintendo has an uphill battle ahead of them, and they can't find success on first party releases alone. They need to win back the trust of third party developers, big publishers and consumers before they have any chance of returning to their former glory as industry front runners.
In fact we don't even know if it's a console. All we know is that it's a gaming device.
All i know is, we've seen the best from a company when they are cornered. The original Xbox was a slow seller, but a crowd pleaser for sure. As soon as the 360 got big they got cocky. The PS3 turn around was another great experience for the industry. The poor selling Saturn also led to the DC, one of the most beloved consoles ever. I anticipate Nintendo's next moves.
The NX will have two GTX 970 Ti. My dad works at Nintendo.
Really? I've heard it actually has 4 titan x's in sli a new 12 cores Intel i7 cpu and 36 gb ultra fast hbm ram and a 5 tb flash hdd o:
All for the low price of $99! Nintendo taking that loss for the TEAM!
Yeah...but it will only release with a controller which you strap to your head like a retainer and control with your tongue.
Well, my grandma said, the NX is a rework of a 970 T, not 970 Ti ... and she would buy one. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Dom...
Well my dad said it will run on angel tears and produce a million tflops and be 4K 120 FPS on every game that comes out on it. It will magicaly upconvert your crappy TVs resolution without the need of buying any extra hardware and all VC games will be free. Ha ha... I like this game.
Someone told me that NX will have Pentium 3 processor and GTX 5200. So yeah
And I'm the pope.
Remember those old Voodoo cards? It's got one.
Can we just freaking wait until it comes out?
No. We have to speculate first and drive the hype through the roof. Of course we can't wait to find out what the heck NX is!!!! :I Anyways your right. Nintendo will announce it soon and when they do then we can start arguing over it. Edit: Just my opinion but I think they announced it a bit to early.
It could be, but will Nintendo themselves evolve?
Call it Nintendo Ascension. I'd buy it
Wii U took 2.5 years just to sell pass 10 million. Nintendo's next console would take even longer to reach that milestone.
My bet is its a new type of portable. We will see though, if its a traditional console and it has less power than the PS4, then Eff Nintendo.
I dont get why everyone is hyping it up They already said it's not the successor to the wii U, but is more like a 3rd pillar for them
Which is why it may fail.
I wouldn't say everyone is hyping it up. What I see more of is people concerned...or pissed...that Nintendo is going to be abandoning at least one console very soon. I also see a lot of questions surrounding exactly what it will be, which makes articles like this useless, since all we really know is the name of it..and I wouldn't doubt that gets changed to WiiX or something come release time.
So Wii U, 3DS and NX? I'm guessing it might be that Nintendo tablet that was rumored a while back.
The DS was originally supposed to be a 3rd pillar but we haven't seen a new Gameboy since.
My biggest fear for them is to pull a Moto Atrix kind of trick and to create a portable that can be plugged into a receptacle that now makes it a home console and like it gains memory by doing so...That'd be stupid, but then again they create that awkward wii u system.
Nintendo will never disappear as a gaming brand, and anyone who suggests otherwise should probably go back to NeoGAF.
Why NeoGaf? :I
If you need to ask that question then you've never visited that site, or don't know it's long established reputation. NeoGAF has less credibility than most of the fanboy and marketing websites you see on the front page of N4G. It used to be a place where certain industry folk would hang out, now even being associated with that place is damaging to your street cred and harmful to your brand. I've been told by industry friends that their employers forbid them from representing themselves or their company / products on the site, as connection to the place is now seen as brand poison. In short, NeoGAF represents everything that is wrong with modern gaming, I guess it really doesn't matter anyway, because now more people visit Reddit and Image Chans when they want to get gaming news or talk about video games. GAF is irrelevant.
Sounds like VGCharts to me. That site is quite problematic especially with the numbers that they fabricate. And yes I do visit Gaf often.
don't count your chickens before they're hatched, well, at this point we dnt even know if theywere chicken or duck
That quacked me up!
It depends on what it is. We won't know anything definite until E3. Just the typical speculation game gamers always play. Why not get on to the PS5 vs. Xbox 2 instead?
What would your thoughts be if they announced at E3 that they're moving Zelda U to the NX?
I'd probably be fine with it if it was the platform that the game demanded – especially if it meant 1080p like I'd hope the NX is packing. Honestly, I'd expect them to probably pull a Twilight Princess on us and release it on both.
Oh Jesus, Nintendo ! What the hell are you doing ? You are going get yourself kill.
If Nintendo makes a console that is on par or more powerful than XB1 and PS4 and they are able to gain 3rd party support back then they have a chance. If both of those arent the case then the NX better be something revolutionary because its going to be in the same position as the Wii U. It will be the joke console that has a few great exclusives a year and not worth the money to own because buying a console for that kind of game lineup is dumb when MS and Sony are putting out a few great exclusives a year as well plus have all the great 3rd party games.
What if they finally called their console the Nintendo Revolution? Do you think it would generate the same amount of name-hype if it was really powerful? Or do you think the name wouldn't matter at all if it's really powerful anyway?
If it isn't more powerful than almost two year old hardware then it'll be pretty pathetic. I won't assume anything, but knowing Nintendo I wouldn't be at all surprised.
It will be a failure thats for sure.
Drop the dunce cap, and step away from the crystal ball. You're surrounded by common sense: further fact-less assumptions will only make things worse for you.
Can you use that crystal ball to help me find a job?
You guys are hilarious. Thanks for the laughs!
Well I wouldn't mind if Nintendo produced a great system like the GameCube or N64 again if you know what I mean. I owned both systems and I adored them. But I have to admit my black GameCube was [email protected]
Do the plebs want a successful console (sales) or one with a quality library of games? The Wii sold in huge numbers, the chavs blasted it. The Wii U is selling poorly in comparison, the plebs blast it. So, numbers of sales clearly aren't key, right? All I can tell is the self-proclaimed 'hardcore' simply want Nintendo to fall in line, become beige, offer simply all the best selling 3rd party franchises. Except not me. Nintendo are for me a breath of fresh air in an industry fast becoming too boring and serious.
Wow, the Nintendo fans must be hella salty today, since posts like ChronoJoe's and rainslacker's are getting so many overwhelming negative votes when they're giving good opinions on the topic. If Nintendo really want fans supporting the NX, then this are the steps they need to take: -The system HAS to be stronger than the PS4 and XB1. If it's not, it is automatically doomed to failure. Being stronger than the Wii-U or equal to the PS4 or XB1 will not be a selling point, since both systems have the advantage of large install bases and wide game libraries. The NX needs to be able to outperform the competition to instantly stand out. -Nintendo has to completely overhaul their online service. They need a much more robust online store and the servers and accessories to facilitate online gaming. It might have worked for Splatoon, but no headsets will not fly with Call Of Duty or Battlefield fans. Also, by extension, the system needs a big HDD. -The system MUST NOT be gimmick based. No touch screens, no motion controls, no cameras. It needs to have a comfortable, multifunctional controller of similar design sensibilities to the XB1 controller or the Dualshock 4. If they wanna add gimmicks thatplayers would like, I dunno, allow keyboard and mouse support and games that support those setups. -The system needs to be multi-functional. Both PS4 and XB1 are media hubs as well as gaming systems. I'm not saying the NX would fail if it were not able to handle multimedia, but it would certainly help. The less a gamer needs to get off his system to do stuff he/she likes, the better. -Nintendo needs to burn the midnight oil and support the system with BIG and PLENTIFUL titles that gamers want. Sure, Mario, Zelda and Yoshi are all nice, but give gamers franchises they've been clamoring for for years, like Earthbound, F-Zero and F*CKING METROID. The Wii-U's worst weakness is that it has been the Nintendo system so far with the most lacking 1st-party support. If Nintendo doesn't support its own system, why should 3rd-parties even bother? The biggest problem the NX has is its timing, above everything else. If it had come out around the time of PS4 and XB1, the consumers' question would have been "Why should I get this over PS4/XB1?" Now, two years into this generation, pretty much everybody own a system, so the question has become "Why should I get this when I already own a PS4/XB1?", which is a MUCH harder question to tackle. Nintendo literally has to shine like a beacon with the NX to impress players. We're talking wowing them like they did when the SNES came out and completely outclassed the Genesis. Back then, merely superior hardware was enough to win that generation, but now, Sony and Microsoft have so many more resources and years of experience with modern gaming consoles to not be easily trounced. Nintendo needs to be progressive and aggressive if they expect the NX to not be a failure. I'm not gonna dismiss the NX as a failure right off the bat, but it's a TALL order to make it succeed, and to pull this off we need to see a Nintendo that we've never seen before, one that takes off the kids gloves and becomes a threat to the big two.
I don't really think you guys are thinking creatively enough when it comes to a company like Nintendo. Most of you are suggesting that they essentially just make a PS4 with their logo on it and there's nothing remotely interesting about that. Also most are failing to remember that the Wii totally started flying off shelves because of 1st party software. There were no major interesting 3rd party games at launch and I would much rather Nintendo make a unique moderately powered systems, versus them charging for online like Sony and Microsoft while just putting PC's in a small form factor.
I agree with you. A lot of people fail to pay attention to the consistency and attitude of what Nintendo's Satoru Iwata and Shigeru Miyamoto have said about their thoughts on Nintendo's future and what interests them as game designers. - Nintendo doesn't care what Sony and Microsoft do. Iwata's said this time and time again. - Miyamoto and Iwata both are interested in continuing to pursue the creation of a different and more unique console experience that isn't based on high-specs, but instead utilizes novel technology to change how we play games and make it affordable to consumers and profitable to Nintendo. - This is a company that still heavily supports local multiplayer and doesn't make photo-realistic games or much in the way of story-driven games for that matter. For better or worse, Nintendo is different kind of platform holder and people need to accept it. Whatever new home console Nintendo makes, it won't be similar to what Sony and Microsoft are doing now or in the future and Nintendo isn't afraid to take risks regardless of Wii U's failure.
Doubtful, based 100% on software, no matter what the hardware actually is. My 2 favorite Wii U games have been W101 and Splatoon, because they are new properties. I am in my 40's and playing Mario and DK over and over is resulting in diminished returns for me.
The NX could still be great but Nintendo needs to make an effort both in terms of hardware, and online infrastructure, and they should get with the times and drop region locking since there's no reason for that to exist in 2015. Perhaps they should swap notes with MS and Sony and learn exactly how a modern system should be designed. If they can do that and still retain their classic Nintendo charm with their first party IPs, then I think they have a shot. But, as long as they don't understand modern gamers they're only going to pull in nostalgics who are longtime Nintendo fans, and parents who like the system's family friendly nature.
How old is the tech in the xb1 and ps4 now 6 years? if its not more powerful than them its doomed from day one and Nintendo must realize this
What makes any of them the "best console"? The most innovative? Sorry Nintendo, but no. The most powerful? Maybe for the moment, but I find the power competition tiring, as I'm sure most developers do as they struggle to pay the bill to develop tripe-A games with the latest and greatest (game companies have a history of folding because the return on investment isn't enough to warrant the cost). What makes the greatest console is the one that developers WANT to develop for and that is able to produce the standard by which gamers appreciate content. Nintendo has an image problem of being kid-oriented and family-oriented, not for the hardcore gamer. It limits their clientele and drives away developers, as does their refusal to keep up with graphical standards. They don't have to be top-shelf but at least competitive in that sense. Their online-services are extremely limited (growing but in need of leaps). Their content is self-reliant (Zelda, Mario, Metroid are the reasons people think to buy their consoles) and worse, they're so-called innovation is becoming a gimick (the Wii-remote didn't live up to the hype due to the limited library of games that employed its capacities), the 3DS (let's be honest, who here uses the 3d function for more than 20 minutes before turning it off), and now the Wii-U's touchscreen (never thought a renowned company could shoot itself in the foot with bad naming). So will the NX be the next "best console"? No - I can say with a sense of assurance that it will not. Why? Because Nintendo's bad image and business practices will not allow it to be. If I had to guess, it's going to be a tablet of some kind to rake in money from their sudden interest in mobile gaming, keeping with Nintendo's "we don't compete" policy. I doubt I'll have any motivation to buy it despite. Nintendo's just losing its appeal to me after a lifetime of loyalty and appreciation.