Microsoft won’t be at this year’s Tokyo Game Show, which runs from September 17 to 20 at the Makuhari Messe in Chiba, the company announced - Gematsu
Bye Bye Japan, they say.
Phil Spencer: why would I live there?
Nothing to say bye bye to, xbox has never beenn relevant in Japan yet X1 sales are ahead of 360. So if its about commercial success microsoft needs to take back the US(which is very possible) and just do better #'s in Europe (which is possible) and they will no doubt end this generation significantly better #'s than last gen...may be a 10-20mil or more gap from ps4 but so what increased success bodes well fir the brand. Im not surprised, Japan doesnt support the console and microsoft isnt waisting too much effort to develop jrpg's and niche Japanese games (thankfully) for a country who only embraces homegrown gaming consoles anyway....just stick to getting good Japanese dev talent to make games like ReCore that will do well abroad.
They already have a 10 million gap, so those are lofty dreams that they will end that close. Europe is dominated by Sony, and has been in the past. That is why ps3 numbers were what they were. But yes, MS should just give up Japan. They should focus on actually supporting the xbox one for the entire life cycle, not half of it like with both previous consoles. That is how they can post solid numbers in the end. Regardless though, even if they lose by twice as much, I think they will be just fine.
pfft last gen microsoft tied with sony at 80mil while winning in the US/Canada and having either even sales or slightly better sales in the UK= 2 biggest markets. Sony dominated places like Spain, France, Germany and a massacre of course in Japan...the good news(for microsoft) is those areas are small by comparison, monthly sales in the US already arent far behind ps4 now with of course X1 usually doing better during the holidays so YES its simple math= better sales for X1 in the US alone could close the sales gap over these consoles lifetime to smoewhere reasonably at about 10-20mil, lol think about it outside of North America X1 essentially can't do much worst. The worst is over both consoles have launched and sure new games will spike sales here and there but its really only X1 that has no place to go but up. Thus I think logic suggests that even though X1 is behind ps4 in the US where they led last gen and the FACT that X1 is still a marginally ahead of 360 past success within the same timframe= YES that means doing better in Euro as a whole and *IF* X1 can take back the US then yeah only a 10-20mil lead lifetime for ps4 is a reasonable estimate. Even if this happens 10-20mil lead is amazing performance by ps4 so its nothing but great news for sony either way.... however my original point remains that although its not pretty to lose big in places like Spain, mathematically and historically speaking the most important factor to X1's commercial success is winning the US market.
@4Sh0w Increasing xb1 sales isn't enough to close the gap, the sales have to be higher than the PS4. And not just for the last 2 months of the year, it has to average higher sales than the PS4, otherwise the gap will just continue to grow, albeit at a slower pace.
Why would he want to live there? He doesn't look Japanese to me.
Microsoft will be throwing all their weight into China! j/k
Haha what a shame. Makes no sense this is the worst xbox console ever. Sony will be absolute king this gen in Japan. TGS is gonna be hot this year Every market has to be treated with respect, no matter how bad the console is performing. They should just have skipped Japan this gen.
@kneon Yes no agruement there but the gap now depending on what estimate you go with is somewhere in the area of 8-12mil right so why couldn't winning big in the US/Canada and close in UK mostly slow the pace of the gap between ps4 and X1 sales to end up at about 2Omil in the next 3-4 years which will be the normal 5-6yr life cycle. I get we are talking hypothetically so I understand if you disagree with the idea of X1 situation improving but otherwise the logic of X1 sales improving and thus the gap from month to month being minimal does correlate to sonys margin over the first 2 years growing much smaller or flat over the next 3-4. Simple math **IF** of course X1 does much better as I suggested. Anyway enough with sales its just my 2 cents on the subject.
lets see if this turns into the dame as sony got he other day when the news broke they wouldnt be at comicon or whatever it was.
At comicon or whatever it was. Lol...yeah Gamescom.
haha thats the one Gamescom. had to many shandys when i wrote it.
@Pedro They are going to ChinaJoy conference
"Microsoft to skip Tokyo Game Show 2015" Understandably. "it appears Microsoft might be preparing its own event for Japan" If so, then they're just throwing money away. ... Well... if they would presented exclusive JRPG's like Lost Odyssey 2, then their event would be worthwile.
They could bring back the XO events. Some of the best xbox announcements in the past were made at the XO events. I hope it makes a come back.
Lost Odyssey 2 would make my heart so happy.
mine too :'(
bummer, was really hoping they would be there for the simple fact a slim chance Lost Odyssey sequel would be announced. Of well, hoping to play Lost Odyssey 1 on XB1 again via BC this Fall. At least make that happen, MS.
Lost Odyssey will most likely come to Xbox one via BC,MS has stated that their 1st party titles will be brought over and im also hoping for sequels to Lost Odyssey& Blue Dragon. I hope MS gets Sakaguchi to start work on those and from the article it seems they might be planning an Xbox specific event in Japan or maybe a return of the XO event.
If there was a LO sequel then it would do better on the PS4 to be honest.
Not possible as MS owns the IP. Even when you are most likely correct.
How so? considering there are a so many JRPG's on the PS4 i cant see Lost Odyssey getting a lot of attention.
It would do better. Only problem is PS is never getting it.
@LCEvans, so a jrpg made by Sakaguchi San will get no love on PS4. Lost Odyssey would easily be one of the best jrpgs on the PS4 console. And would sell well. Thats what I believe anyway.
That's never going to happen. If Microsoft wants to compete they'll need a lot more then just Lost Odyssey. They need a lot more JRPGs. Right now they don't have many. I would love to see another Tales game SEGA's Valkyria Chronicle series on the XB1 as a remastered trilogy. Right now the only JRPG's we're waiting for are FF XV and Kingdom Hearts 3.
I honestly don't believe that Microsoft will set up an entire conference in Japan just for one game. Once they have several Japanese titles to announce they will have a conference at TGS. However this is assuming that those developers don't use Sony or Nintendo to announce their games.
Or u could play it on your 360 as the bc version will be virtually identical...
Not virtually identical, as I can do Snap, Screenshot, DVR, broadcasting and any other newly added features for XB1 when I play it on my XB1 that I can't do on my X360 as with all my other X360 games that will be BC. :) Besides, I don't have enough space and HDMI ports for all my systems in the entertainment unit.
Lost Odyssey was really good, and that is coming from a guy that basically got sick of and quit playing JRPG's 15 years ago. I'm not even sure what made me try that one, but it turned out to be amazing.
Well, damn. That's not good.
because after gamescom they have nothing to announce anymore so why bother
How do you know they have nothing else to announce after Gamescom? Did MS tell you that?
Did you say samething when Sony said they wouldnt have a conference at Gamescom? What, did they show all their games at E3?
They will be at the Paris conference show with Sony. So maybe the DO have something else to show.
Sony skips Gamescom, Microsoft skips Tokyo Game Show ...2015 has been a pretty interesting year for Gaming. I have interests in both Camps, so both shows are important for me /
MS has skipped TGS before and its not exactly surprising considering how abysmal the sales of the console are there. Sony skipping Gamescom was more surprising for me though. But they have their own event in Paris I guess.
ms has also skipped gamescom and Tokyo the same year before . but sony got a lot of slack for doing it , even though paris is still in Europe . http://www.engadget.com/201...
aceitman are you suggesting that Microsoft didnt get the same criticism for not going to Gamescom/TGS= yes they did, I mean basically it was the media reporting the same info quite a few times, not much bashing and then of course fanboys on forums saying "lol no games" type rubbish just as we've seen for sony. I think criticism for missing a important gaming event is fair for all 3 big companies who have a huge stake in the gaming market but being completely honest I think it makes strategic business sense for micro to focus more on markets they can have commercial success in. Years ago I read an extensive survey about gaming preferences in Japan and about 90% of the public said they take pride in only owning a Japanese made console. Japan doesnt like foreign consoles, X1 could have every jrpg and niche title ps4 has and it would barely matter because Japanese gamers are extremely loyal when it comes to gaming= its like trying to sell American cigars to Cubans, why?
Sony is going to gamescom. They just aren't having a conference.
I didn't do the PR for these companies friend, it's how it has been termed. 'Skipping'. I'm sure Sony Reps. will be at Gamescom. Likewise, MS Reps. will be at TGS, but in 'traditional' terms they're still 'Skipping' the event. Fancy a game of Chess? ;)
sony is not skipping gamescom...they just won't have a press conference.
I wonder why... :v
I agree with this, Phil knows what he is doing. I would not waste my time and money on a place that no longer in braces the console culture. Great move by Microsoft!!
Yeah but no it's not a great move.
Phil Spencer goes to TGS to network. He doesn't go their to show off games but to network projects. He met with Kamiya in 2013 TGS about Scalebound. Same is probably true about Keiji Inafune. Phil is playing the best move. Not wasting resources in a territory they've already given their best fight. Now it's all about networking to bring some amazing Japanese games Worldwide. That's why X1 won't stop getting support in Japan but the public is turned off by it, when Japanese publishers aren't as strong as they once were so plenty of teams looking for funding where they can get it.
Its agreat move, japan is irrelevant everyone knows it
That's one way to look at it,i don't want them to give up totally in Japan but at the same time i think its wise that they're focusing more on Gamescom and Europe than TGS& Japan. They stand a better chance in Europe and they've acknowledged the need to do better in that region. This will be Phil Spencers first conference at Gamescom and i think we will see some big announcements for that region at the show.
By all accounts they don't stand a chance in Europe either. Just the UK maybe.
@Minato, when did the UK secede from Europe? I agree with you tho Europe is PS stronghold.
In braces? Anyways why should they if they don't have any games for japanese.
Xbox got hit by a truck. Now it's in braces. I kid I kid. Lol.
I guess they've abandoned the Japanese market entirely. They never really embraced Japanese style games or the Japanese market on xbox so it's understandable, but if ur a jrpg fan don't expect much from the spencer green Army. Xbox needs to perform better in Europe, the PS4 is utterly dominating in Europe atm. PS4 is regularly selling more units in Europe than xbone is in NA. The last recorded week PS4 won in NA, Europe, and Japan outselling xbone by nearly 3x in worldwide sales. The spencer bros need to do something. I know vgchartz isn't entirely legit but it gives an idea, scroll down a bit and look at weekly hardware sales, it's staggering. http://www.vgchartz.com/
Wow! PS4 is about to touch 24 million. X1 is not bad either, but...eh.
not surprised, but disappointed cause I'm gonna be there this year
id skip too as x1 aint doing good over there they need some jap games for x1 only and show the games next year and start selling more over there.
Not surprised. The Japanese don't like Xbox.
Japan is a lost cause anyway and so is EU. But it's Ms fault in the first place, focusing on its strongholds and neglecting the rest...What did they expect? You can't come up with an american centric console and hope for it to succeed WW...It won't happen unless you pour in it softs for all regions and services that work out of the box worldwide; plus making deals for all not a unique region namely US/UK...No wonder people felt like tier 2 or 3 folks!!! Just from the sales figures you can guess people reaction, though i know it's not the only reason; Ps is a much more established brand WW anyway.
It only needs to suceed in the united states.....last gen the xbox one 60 million in the u.s alone. Microsoft is dumb for focusing on its strongholds? That's not logical at all
Because here and now, the Xbone doesn't have the year ahead start, the snow ball effect and the better multiplats... But if you think that the xbone is going to have the x360 success in NA/UK, i'm ok with that...I highly doubt it because of the above. For this Ms need to think WW, but this does not seem to be the case and this IS not logical!!!
Yes ms is dumb bc there is an entire world out there that they choose to ignore, as a result the PS4 is outselling xbone roughly 2 to 1 with over 50% market share. This is what happens when your no longer winning NA, u get blown out. All this with the PS4 selling well under expectations in Japan. It's all about Europe now, Europe is a hotbed for gaming in terms of development and sales. The narrow minded thinking of ms is burying them by comparison.
What you're not seeing is xbox will be ahead in the states after this holiday. Americans are not interested the last guardian, and shenmue especially when they aren't coming anytime soon. Yes some Americans want these games but it's like call off duty in Japan,yah it sells decent but nothing too brag about. The funny thing is Sony has ignored gamers as whole and it's only beginning apparent lately and will become very obvious this holiday. Call of duty and battlefront will not have an impact when people see it's not exclusive. When there's a sticker o.k. the xbox one that says "now compatible with xbox 360 games!" Only one place this fall you can get uncharted collection,tear away (may be on vita idc enough to check) Or Halo 5,foza 6,tomb raider along with your cod, battlefront ,fallout 3/4 and a place to play your 360 games as well,xbox is going to destroy this holiday even this site won't be able to down play it.
I guess it's time to give up on Japan for MS. Throughout the XBOX and Xbox 360 years they've tried their hardest to give Japanese gamers tons of the reasons to buy their consoles. It became a birthplace of many great titles like Otogi, Ninja Gaiden, Lost Odyssey, DOA 3 & 4, Dead Rising, Breakdown, Ace Combat 6, Ninja Blade, Jet Set Radio Future, Panzer Dragoon Orta, Eternal Sonata, Infinite Undiscovery, Blue Dragon, Tales of Vesperia... I guess they're just loyal to Sony and Nintendo and portable devices in general. It would be great to see MS's last effort, but i suppose it would be a waste with many Japanese developers supporting PS4 lately.
Say what you want about Peter Moore, but under his tenure at least Xbox had put a great deal of effort in to courting Japanese developers. Phil Spencer has done reasonably well to secure a few 'Stand Out' Japanese games for (Notably Scalebound & ReCore) X1. Especially considering how poor of a presence X1 has in the region. The home console space has dwindled in Japan. Xbox 360 may just be the pinnacle of the brand as far as Xbox Japan goes.
We've yet to see gameplay for either of those titles and it is too early to tell if either of them will be a hit.
That is why the jrpg and Japanese games are drying up. They will not be hits,they will review well and sell okay. Thats why these games sit as ideas until Microsoft goes over there and throws money at them making it worth there wild to make the game a go. Microsoft should just open a japan studio that focuses on those type of games and port them stateside instead inking deals once a year...which is probably cheaper on second though,phil knows best.
Given the xbox track record there and the current landscape of Japanese gaming in terms of consoles....its definitely understandable.
Just throwing this out there, but the PS4 is doing poor in Japan too. The X1 is just doing piss poor compared to the PS4 in Japan. I think its a good decision not to have a huge press event there, but, they will still have a presence. Sony is skipping EU show and MS is skipping TGS..not a big deal really.
PS4 (avg. 90k per month) and Wii U (avg 83k per month) are both actually doing okay in JP, just nowhere near what console gaming once did. PS4 constantly ranks in the top 3 for hardware sells with a rare slip to 4th in sales. It's just pass 1.5m in sales last month which puts it in the same bracket as PS3 / GameCube / and Wii U global sales in the same timeframe. The Bad news: GameCube struggled to reach 5m sold after that, and JP as a whole is diminishing in console sales. The Good news: PS3 had a healthy life cycles for years and went on to sell over 10m units after. The best news: It's managed to achieve this without any of JP's biggest games hitting the console yet like Final Fantasy 15, MGSV, SFV, Resident Evil 7 (Biohazard 7), Dragon Quest RPG, Monster Hunter, Yokai Watch, etc... JP has a following Sony and Nintendo just need to get these franchises on their consoles.