SegmentNext - The arena was home to the harrowing sounds of cheers and screams of joy when the central screen filled with footage of what is now known as the first trailer for the Final Fantasy VII remake.
Final Fantasy VII is my favorite game ever, but really I don't really care if it is turn based. I've heard some extremist fans say "It needs to be turn based" but really, did you play the game for the turn based gameplay? I sure as heck did not, I played it for the characters, the world the awesome story. Sure I liked the materia system but it could just as easily be in an ARPG. Also, assuming it wil play like XII or XIII is pretty weird, it will more likely play like Versus 13 was going to, you know a toned down KH with awesome character switching with different gameplay styles, and honestly that sounds friggen awesome to me.
Agreed 100% We'll see how it all plays out :)
Taking away the turned base battle system will make it feel like a different final Fantasy game altogether cause if you haven't noticed, every final Fantasy game has a different type of gameplay and battle system, so I can already see that if it plays like ff 15 for example, it's not going to feel anything like ff7,which is turned based and using ALL your characters that are in battle, not relying on AI to do the work for you like ff13 which was the worse ff game.
With summons and how the materia system works. I don't see how they will make it other than turned base.
I played FFVII a lot and what i really liked was the turn based combat. That's why i'd prefer it like it was. But that's just me, i don't know if i would like it action style, maybe yes. Let's say this: i liked the turn based combat, i know i still like it, so i'm going to like FFVII. On the other hand, i don't really know how it would be if it became an ARPG, so there are chances that i'll like it but there are more chances i won't. That's why i'd like it turn based, but i repeat, it's just my opinion. Who knows, maybe changing it will be more gorgeous but that's all in the "unknown".
Crisis core gameplay was also amazing.I would also prefer ff15 battle system. I really liked turn based back in the day but nowdays its about money and an action rpg will be more appealing i guess.
off topic... Ni No Kuni's battle system I think is good.
Crisis core is also ffvii its not off topic
Why in fucks name would it not be turned based? Have you people lost your minds ? This shouldn't even be a discussion. If by some ridiculous off chance that game becomes non-turned based I will lose my mind and never buy a square game again. The original was turn based, remake HAS to be turned based, simple as that.
if it is turned based, it needs to feel faster, more brutal and the AI needs it be turned up to 11. That is my only wish should they stay turned based. Fights/Battles should feel like work, especially boss fights. They also need to counteract against OP materia combos so the game isn't cheesed as heavily as the current incarnation is.
I can see the world map playing like Final Fantasy 15. But the battle system will stay the same. I'd bet on it.
I wouldn't take that bet if I were you. "“We can’t have these upgraded, beautiful 3D models of Cloud and Barrett, still lining up in a row, jumping forward to attack an enemy, then jumping back to wait for their next turn,” Nomura said. “That would be bizarre. Of course there will likely be changes there.”" http://www.vg247.com/2015/0... It's looking like a move from turn based. Not necessarily a bad thing. Just gotta wait and see how they implement it.
That doesn't mean they will change it from being turn based, I could see them changing up the presentation of it all though. I mean the big thing is that they just stand there then jump over to the enemy and then jump back, they don't have to change the core gameplay to fix that.
I don't know how you could take that as anything else than moving from turn based. He says they can't have them lining up and jumping forward to attack. I'm going to put my money on an ff15 style combat altered to be like advent children.
What did they do in final fantasy 13? That was technically still turn based but didn't involve people standing around then jumping back and forth...
They're still just standing there only in a 3d space instead of 2d with some standing animations. https://www.youtube.com/wat... I'm not saying you're wrong because obviously I know as much as you or anyone else. But going by his statement I'm fairly sure they're going to go the real time route.
It will, get used to it.
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Not once it's (the piece) approved. Mine was the vote that okayed this drivel.
That's what final fantasy 7 is.
No, it isn't. I never even thought about whether or not it was turn based when I played it. My focus is on the story and characters, how well-crafted the world is. That's what I play JRPGs for. I couldn't care less about the battle system, so long as it isn't complete garbage. It's not the battle system I care about when playing Kingdom Hearts, or Persona, or Tales, or Star Ocean, or Legend of Dragoon, or Lost Odyssey, or Devil Survivor, or anything else JRPG. I might note them if they're fun, interesting, or unique in some way(Omega Quintet's battle system is pretty fun, even if the story isn't all that great), but they're never the focus of my attention when playing. I think it's fine to prefer turn based, but if that's most of what you're looking forward to in this remake, your priorities are in the wrong place.
let me get this straight, because you personally ignore the core gameplay of most jrpgs the core gameplay doesnt define them at all? Final Fantasy 7 is a turn based jrpg, how can anybody say it isnt? If you completely change the core gameplay then it isnt the same game anymore.
But JRPGs can live without that "core" gameplay. They can even be popular. Many of the games I've listed- and plenty I didn't- prove just that. You know what a JRPG can't have? Crappy stories and characters. Nobody in their right minds will play an rpg with a mediocre story just because it's turn based. People WILL play a game with an average battle system for the story, though. And while you say "most" JRPGs, isn't that a loaded statement, since most JRPGs were made at a time when action wasn't possible? Aren't many- if not most- games in the genre these days being made with an action based battle system? Question: would you give a damn about VII if the characters were all bland and the story didn't even make sense? Would the game stop being good if the battle system were action based and implemented well?
i liked final fantasy 12 quite a bit if that's what you are asking. And if they changed the battle system to an action based system it just wouldn't be the same game anymore, fans want a remake that will be true to the original. Dont get me wrong, final fantasy 15 looks awesome, but i want final fantasy 7 to still play like final fantasy 7...
The best thing they could possibly do is give people options. Turn based for the die hard fans and something a little more up beat for those, like me, who have never played the original.
IMO ALL FF games should be turn based, but thats just me..
It would be cool if they could make it an option to change between the traditional turn based and more action oriented of the newer games. But holy hell dont remove the turn based style from the game - the gameplay made the game for me
Sure it can and i hope it does
Without turn-based it won't feel like I'm playing Final Fantasy 7. The turn-based formula required strategy. I'll never understand why people think just because there are a bunch of action RPGs out there this game HAS to be like it.
Those comments don't connect. For one, more than turn-based battle systems require strategy. For another, I haven't seen anything indicating people want it to be action based because of other games. I've seen it argued- and reasonably so- that it makes more sense for a game of such high visual fidelity to have a more visually engaging battle system. It doesn't have to impact summons or materia or Limit Breaks. It doesn't have to force you into using just one character. I don't even see why the argument is made that these things would be done away with. It's like you're all taking the worst case scenario and assuming that's what'll happen, without giving the changes any chance at all- whatever the changes might be- at getting things right.
A game I kickstarted, Edge of Eternity, is going to have the option to choose turn-based or ATB style systems. Is this not feasible for the FF7 remake? It would be a great way to make everyone happy...hmmm.
There's a big difference between choosing traditional turn-based/ATB, and choosing ATB/action. The first is simply turning off the timers, while the second is coding two entirely different combat systems. I highly doubt they'll spend the money to code two entire genres of gameplay into one game.
Very true. I think they may have already had the coding mapped out for EOE, however now that they have moved it to Unity 5 it might be hard to bring over. Still, it would be pretty cool!
i wonder how it will work when u have 3 parties attck seph from three differ sides...
Sure it can, if they want to ruin it.
It has not been long since the reveal of ff7 remake. Can we not go back to that initial excitement. Whatever the combat system is i'm sure it would be great. Square enix will have to know though that they will have to get the remake right or the backlash would be incredible lol. Personally I'm more exited about the story and scenes with the ps4 graphics. So many iconic scenes in ff7, it's exciting to imagine what they would look like, aeriths death, ultimate weapon, the shinra rocket etc. I hope they don't change the soundtrack to much, it's because of nobuo uematsu that ff7 had such an impact on me even with the limited graphics of the time. You may say whatever about some of square enixs decision making in the last decade but their production values have always been the highest.Look what they did with crisis core, zacks death at the end was an incredible but heart wrenching scene. They already have the story, the history and the fans, new and old, I just hope they do ff7 renake justice.
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