Has mobile gaming ruined chances for a more sophisticated portable experience?
Vita is nextgen compared to phones and the 3DS. Support it people.
I think Sony has to support it before people support it.
I think there are fair share of exclusives out there for the system.. it just needs a tad more third party support i guess.. it had its fair share of bugs but playing borderlands 2 on a portable system with proper controls was a dream come true..
@oasdada It's not that is doesn't have exclusives, its that its no longer receiving them from Sony.
Sony can hardly support PS4, 1 good exclusive every few years!
It's certainly more advance than most of its competition, but it's not the most powerful. Nvidia Shield portable specs are still top of the line when it comes to portables.
My tablet runs circles around the Vita. Paired with a Bluetooth controller its a fantastic mobile console. Playing Geometry Wars 3 is amazing on tablet.
I'm still of the mind that you would be hard pressed to find something that looks and plays as good as KZ:M but the Vita doesn't have enough of these heavy hitter games for it to matter much. It bothers me because the system is still only on its 4th year so even as a failure Sony is likely to be in portable limbo for as long as two or three years while they solely promote the PS4. Even the PS3 is getting more support at this point lol. Could have been great with a few more games, support with longevity, and a few more buyers. Nintendo's monopoly on MH and the mobile market didn't help this outcome, that's for sure.
Spec wise it probably does. However the vita came out ~3years ago, so what do you expect? Game wise theres only a few decent AAA mobile games, while the vita has more.
@zeal: I was responding to a comment that suggested Vita was still next gen. Compared to modern mobile devices no its not.
@LifeInNZ You have to forgive people on here, they are ignorant of mobile gaming, and so they just disagree without having any experience on the subject aka blind fanboyism. Vita is a great handheld, but any current comparatively priced tablet or smartphone has much better hardware than the Vita, and it's nothing against the Vita, it's just a fact. The Vita will be 4 years old this December. Recently mobile technology has leaped a generation every 2 years, that means the Vita is 2 generations behind, and it's 60 GFLOP GPU (at most, it's more likely in the 30's or 40's) can't stand up to standard smartphone and tablet GPU which are edging closer to 200 GFLOP (PS3 / 360), and at the high end they've already surpassed the PS360 and Wii U, with the Tegra X1. Educate yourself people. @Pivotplease The big advantage Vita had, was it has real, dedicated, professional, industry developers working on games for it which is how you get amazing art-style and work like Uncharted Golden Abyss and Killzone on Vita. Mobile doesn't have that unless you get a talented indie developer, but even without devs of that caliber mobile games still go toe to toe with anything on Vita. Half Life 2 http://www.youtube.com/watc... Modern Combat 5 (Knock off Call of Duty) http://www.youtube.com/watc... NOVA 3 (Knock off Halo) http://www.youtube.com/watc... Dark Meadow: The Pact (First Person Horror) http://www.youtube.com/watc... Little Big Planet: Run Sackboy Run http://www.youtube.com/watc... Real Racing 3 (Racing SIM) https://www.youtube.com/wat... Asphalt 8 (Need for Speed / Burnout / Crusin' the World) https://www.youtube.com/wat... Oceanhorn (Zelda Wind Waker clone) http://www.youtube.com/watc... Mobile games have come a loooooooooong way, and while they're still clone games, at least the teams making these games are making clone of good console games now instead of regular side scrolling clones.
@NukaCola Next gen as in what? Because technologically it's been surpassed by smartphones for a long time, and is nowhere near their performance now in every way. The Galaxy S6 is the primary Android phone, and it trounces Vita in every way. Screen S6: 5.1" AMOLED 1440p screen Vita: 5" OLED 960 x 544 CPU S6: 2.1 GHz Quad-core Cortex-A57 + 1.5 GHz Quad-core Cortex-A53 Vita: 2 GHz Quad-core ARM Cortex-A9 GPU S6: Mali-T760MP8 (150 - 160 GFLOPS) Vita: Quad-core PowerVR SGX543MP4+ (30 - 60 GFLOPS) RAM: S6: 3GB System RAM Vita: 512MB System RAM + 128MB VRAM Memory S6: 16GB - 128GB internal / 64GB $20 or 128GB $80 Vita: 1GB internal / 32GB $60 or 64GB $100 external Overall the S6 is over 3x more powerful than a Vita, and it also has better cameras, more feature, more apps, better multimedia, the only thing smartphones are missing are AAA games and a review system that makes finding good games much easier. I love my Vita too, but a smartphone is technologically superior in every way. And smartphone games have come a long way, there are some really good games on there, and there are tons of free pick up and play games which are prefect for a handheld device, and you can easily sync a controller to them and game away, or even use HDMI-out and game on your HDTV. Games like Killzone: Mercenaries and Uncharted Golden Abyss are what would have pushed Vita ahead of a smartphone, but games like those are pretty much done for Vita. Vita is a great little device that has a strong RPG and indie following, with 2 free games each month. It's a worthwhile handheld, but a Smartphone is just as good these days, especially if you start adding emulators.
Naturally a $700 product surpasses a $200 product.
@ninjahunter lol, yeah go with the unlocked priced for argument sake. You people try so hard and for what? But here you go. Oneplus1 $249, Unlocked https://oneplus.net/ Screen: 5.5" 1080p LCD Screen CPU: 2.5 GHz Quad-core Krait 400 GPU: Adreno 330 (130 - 170 GFLOPS, depending on clock speed) RAM: 3GB Memory: 16GB - 64GB internal, 64GB $20 or 128GB $80 external BLU Vivo Air: $199 (they have several models) http://www.amazon.com/BLU-V... Screen: 4.8" Super AMOLED LCD CPU: 1.7GHz Octa-Core Processor (8 cores) GPU: MALI 450 (60 GFLOPS) RAM: 1GB Memory: 16GB internal, 64GB $20 or 128GB $80 external NVIDIA Shield Portable: $199 http://shield.nvidia.com/st... Screen: 5-inch 1280x720 (assume it's LCD) CPU: 1.9 GHz Quad-Core ARM Processor GPU: Tegra 4 (75 GFLOPS) RAM: 2GB Memory: 16GB internal / expandable Yes, how much ??? NVIDIA Shield Tablet: $299 / $399 (4G version) http://shield.nvidia.com/st... Screen: 8-inch 1920x1200 (assume it's LCD) CPU: 2.2 GHz ARM Cortex A15 CPU (Vita CPU successor, 40% better) GPU: Tegra K1 (+300 GFLOPS) RAM: 2GB Memory: 16GB / 32GB internal, 64GB $20 or 128GB $80 external Take your seat please
Specs don't matter when all the games are trash and the only form of input is a touchscreen unless you take away its portability and pair it with a controller. So your basically saying if your willing to commit a crime you can make your smartphone better by using emulators that suck ass with touchscreens while the Vita plays PS1/PSP games perfect and legally.
@drpepperdude "Specs don't matter when all the games are trash and the only form of input is a touchscreen unless you take away its portability and pair it with a controller. So your basically saying if your willing to commit a crime you can make your smartphone better by using emulators that suck ass with touchscreens while the Vita plays PS1/PSP games perfect and legally." First off I listed specs, because @NukaCola claimed the Vita was next-gen compared to phones and 3DS. Secondly every game I listed is above is a good game that can go toe to toe with anything of a similar genre on Vita or 3DS, and there are many more, those games I listed specifically for graphical comparisons since @Pivotplease was unaware that there are mobile games that look and plays as good as Uncharted Golden Abyss and Killzone Mercenaries on Vita. Third the Vita is far from being the most portable device out there, but for argument sake there are tons of controllers that also function as phone cases. Razer Junglecat http://cdn.toucharcade.com/... BladePad http://assets.vr-zone.net/1... Rii Gamepad http://i00.i.aliimg.com/img... Moga Gamepad http://graphicashen.com/wp-... All ranging for $40 - $80. Finally there's nothing illegal about emulation. What's illegal is pirating games to run on emulation and/or using them to make a profit. That's illegal, not the emulation program, nor the downloadable ROM. Plus if you're downloading a specific ROM chances are you've already owned and played it to begin with. Also most roms are of games that are out of print that there's no other way to buy them outside of 3rd party ebay sales. And if you're scared to death of accidentally doing something illegal, then make your own iSO files of disc based games which is as easy as ripping a CD. Once again if you don't know what you're talking about STFU and go sit down somewhere. It amazes me how when someone tries to spread information and enlightenment about anything, you ignorant people come out in full force talking about things you know nothing about. Just because you only know about free games on your phone, and are too simple to look up anything worthwhile, too clueless to google portable controllers for your phone, and flat out ignorant about anything worthwhile when it comes to mobile, doesn't mean every else has to be. You want to be stupid fine, but STFU and keep it moving.
Nope. I think the furore of mobile remains our mobile devices run by IOS and android. The tech is coming, and apps like PS Now will be ready when it does. Mobile Gaming Has Become So Big That I think future mobile devices will begin adding more accessories and marketing it. If Sony, Nintendo or MS are smart, they will build a tablet, partner w Apple or Android and get ahead of this. It makes a ton of sense for Sony actually. Because if you can sell a device that does everything an ipad does but also plays great games, real games...
uhhhh Nintendo is already working on their next handheld and has been for a while. * The day they release a handheld they start doing two things: 1.) Work on refining and making the new handheld even better. 2.) Start working on the handheld after it. They do it with consoles as well and they aren't the only one. There will be two dedicated handhelds next gen because there is a market for two dedicated handhelds. Tapping & swiping does not replace amazing controls and FULL GAMES.
Vita is a prime example of unrealized potential. You can have the hardware, but it's what you do with it that counts. #VitaOnwer -- Console-quality games just don't work on handhelds.. they are usually sub-par experiences for example, COD: declassified. games catered to handheld do better on that platform for example, Tearaway.
Thank You!!! Yes I agree with you, what matters isn't graphics but gameplay. Who cares how pretty the game looks, if the game doesn't fit the hardware it's meant to be played in.
I disagree. Mobile devices can support console style gaming when paired with a controller. Also, some console/pc games work fantastically with a touch screen, Sims, Tower Defense, Walking Dead, etc. The gap is closing and its closing fast.
Also LBP Vita might have been my favourite in the series and I've played every single game in the franchise barring Sackboy's prehistoric moves or whatever. Tearaway is another great example for sure and after seeing PS4 footage I can confidently say the Vita is the best place to play it. Also, PSone classics on the go anybody? The PS4 doesn't yet support these and most people don't have a PSP that works so flawlessly anymore.
Hope not. I really trust Sony when it cames to console gaming. But it does not apply to Sony's portable gaming anymore, unfortunately.
Sadly agree. I feel the same way about Nintendo and home consoles.
At least Nintendo home consoles have fun games
@j The PS4 and the XB1 have fun games as well. Or did you believe that all people did was watch Netflix on them? Too easy. 😂
Of course there will be. Nintendo isn't going to just give up that market when the 3DS is doing to well. The NX is most likely going to be the next gen having 2 screen gaming at home and then you take it on the go, no hassles, no internet, no lag. I kinda doubt Sony will venture back into the mobile market with how bad the Vita is selling and their clear uncaring and non-support for the system. Maybe when the Ps5 comes out they will attempt to doing a mobile/home system since thats the only thing they say when they talk about the Vita is the remote play but that is pretty unlikely.
It would make the most sense for them to attempt to have he systems be a year apart max for power reasons so they can have a really cohesive set of companion systems. While the PS3 and PSP felt somewhat linked and the Vita feels a bit more linked withcrossplay and superior remote play, I think they could do even better in this department by developing both systems concurrently and not having release gaps (2003 and 2006 and now 2011 and 2013).
I can actually see the market shifting to Gaming Tablets. I currently own the Nvidia shield and there are so many possible games I can play on it. Tons of emulators to play old school games and also the ability to stream games from my PC is pretty sweet with virtually no lag. I don't think Nintendo will leave the handheld market though as they obviously still have a very strong presence.
Sony has one.. It's called vita, I think Sony has forgotten about it though..
While I think its unlikely, its possible. Personaly I would like to see Sony take another try at the Xperia Plays concept. Had/have the phone, it was neat but had some troubles. One thing Sony has royally fked up is the support for Vita. I swore that once PS TV came to rest of the world I would buy one as long as its 100€, now its 50-60€ and I still feel hesitant because the support has been piss poor. *and Im saying this while believing we are still going to see at least one traditional home console generation. They really need to up their game to success in handheld market.
To tell you the truth, I think we might be seeing it soon in the form of an iPhone. The specs of these phones today are already amazing and in a few years, I wouldn't be shock if X360 level graphics and gameplay are achieveable on them. The only thing apple really need to do is somehow sell a version with an actual slide or flip joypad, then we are in business.
Before we aim for X360 games how bout we try conquer old 486 games like Theme Park, Alone in the Dark or Magic Carpet. I don't believe phones will ever be able to reach those due to the lack of physical buttons though.
Yea, the emulated touch pad is really a pain to use. I tried to play a few old SNES games on my phone with the virtual joypad and it sucks BIG time. Sony did it right by making the Xperia Play with a slide out joypad and if Apple would do a version of their future iPhones with the same controller scheme, then that may attract some huge console game publishers of making games for it. Touch screen would never work for serious gaming.
Agreed, and just removing all the Pay to play options as well which seems almost standard in every phone game.
Have to also remember battery life. A lot of phones struggle to last all day these days due to all the specs they have, now imagine actually utilizing those specs to run a decent game. Your phone would need to be hooked up to a charger. ^Love my Xperia Play, wish Sony actually supported it. It had less support than the Vita does.
Yeah Apple need to come up with a decent joypad system for iPhone and iPad, this is only thing holding them back atm cause they are quite powerful and have massive userbases.
More than likely from Nintendo, but I doubt Playstation.
What happened with the support that the PSP enjoyed? It had awesome first and second party games, both God of War were top of the line. They never gave up on the PSP, that system was plagued with piracy and I believe it was still a profitable venture, they still have time to turn the boat around but it may be a huge task giving that developing games for the PS4 sure has most of the studios busy.
No, I doubt it as long as it's from Sony. I imagine them sticking with a domestic, Japan-only handheld in the near-future with Nintendo being the only one you'll see making an international handheld system.
The PS VITA is a true next-gen console
It'll need to double as a phone to appeal to a casual audience to be honest. As a Vita owner I'd say Vita is "next generation" but being entirely honest, even Sony doesn't support the thing anymore. Happens a lot with their smaller experiments. Really doesn't make sense considering PSP had tons of support, hell people defend the Vita by using PSP games....
Hey the article said game boy colour, it was the game boy pocket. Anyways vita is the best hand held tech wise, everyone moved to 3ds cause it had a lot a games. There's to many ds imo ds and versions, 3ds, 2ds, new 3ds really.
Mobile gaming is riddled with shovelware, excessive clones and free-to-play that pops ads with every action. Though I feel the author got it right, if you have to ask the question posed in this article then it's clear you're not paying attention.
Ah man now that you mention it, that's exactly right. Freaky ads well at least it's free. Japanese players love mobile cause all those jrpgs. Most the games on mobile could be much better on handheld if done right, but they don't care.
Damn the vita disappointed me so bad...I bought one on launch day thinking I was going to get games like ff crisis core and mgs peacewalker that would take advantage of the vita, even that BioShock vita game sounded great but nothing came to be :(
Definitely from Nintendo but I dont know about Sony
I think Microsoft should shrink 360 hardware into a portable and increase ram. That way I can play my Xbox games on my portable and new games will be available for 360.
Mobile ruined portable definitely. 3ds sold well, but even nintendo and third party aren't supporting it much. Look at the library for 3ds its very small compared to DS library. You can see third party is staying with console or mobile
They are supporting it We got Senran Kagura 2: Deep Crimson Stella Glow The Legend of Legacy Yokai Watch LBX: Little Battlers Experience Pokemon Super Mystery Dungeon Fire Emblem If Project X Zone 2: Brave New World Bravely Second Dragon Ball Z: Extreme Butoden Etrian Odyssey Untold II Animal Crossing: Happy Home Designer Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam Metroid Prime: Federation Force more than enough games coming to the west til Q2 2016.
More Support: Mario! Pokemon! Metroid Federation Force?Sequels! Japan! Excitement? I know is a good lineup Otaku, I'm just joking a little bit but I might pass on most of those games these time around, just Bravely Second for me, thanks.
I don't get it? Suddenly Vita doesn't count?
if we do i don't think it will be a vita follow up probably a new Nintendo handheld sony gave us a great portable but it never got going as well as the 3ds did, kinda sucks but the PS4 lifted Sony out of some money troubles if they try again i expect them to wait a long time they aren't in a rush to throw money into a new handheld only to have a few million sell. The vita is an amazing handheld i love mine i got it launch day in the UK i must admit i barely use it unless i go on holiday or something that means i can't use my consoles/pc but still a great system if you have long train rides everyday or travel a lot you will probably already have one or like the 3DS better if u can get one for an affordable price or borrow one from a friend you will see that it really is a great system especially now there are so many games.
Probably from Nintendo but I doubt we'll see another one from Sony or Microsoft.
I really don't think there's much of a market for another Sony handheld. -PSP sold 37.76 million in 3.5 years -Vita sold 10.61 million in 3.5 years. The next Sony handheld will do so dramatically worse that Sony would be better off not putting in the effort of a follow up,
Nintendo = likely. Sony = unlikely. Maybe better to wait for mobile tech to reach PS4 levels and make a handheld PS4 https://i.imgur.com/5N6Ea0d... PC "handheld" gaming = tablets + accessories = part of future... way in the future.
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