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Will We Ever See A Next-Gen Portable Console?

Has mobile gaming ruined chances for a more sophisticated portable experience?

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NukaCola807d ago

Vita is nextgen compared to phones and the 3DS. Support it people.

Rimeskeem807d ago

I think Sony has to support it before people support it.

oasdada807d ago

I think there are fair share of exclusives out there for the system.. it just needs a tad more third party support i guess.. it had its fair share of bugs but playing borderlands 2 on a portable system with proper controls was a dream come true..

Vegamyster807d ago

@oasdada

It's not that is doesn't have exclusives, its that its no longer receiving them from Sony.

Madock806d ago (Edited 806d ago )

Sony can hardly support PS4, 1 good exclusive every few years!

Nonscpo807d ago

It's certainly more advance than most of its competition, but it's not the most powerful. Nvidia Shield portable specs are still top of the line when it comes to portables.

LifeInNZ807d ago

My tablet runs circles around the Vita. Paired with a Bluetooth controller its a fantastic mobile console. Playing Geometry Wars 3 is amazing on tablet.

pivotplease807d ago

I'm still of the mind that you would be hard pressed to find something that looks and plays as good as KZ:M but the Vita doesn't have enough of these heavy hitter games for it to matter much. It bothers me because the system is still only on its 4th year so even as a failure Sony is likely to be in portable limbo for as long as two or three years while they solely promote the PS4. Even the PS3 is getting more support at this point lol. Could have been great with a few more games, support with longevity, and a few more buyers. Nintendo's monopoly on MH and the mobile market didn't help this outcome, that's for sure.

zeal0us807d ago

Spec wise it probably does. However the vita came out ~3years ago, so what do you expect?

Game wise theres only a few decent AAA mobile games, while the vita has more.

LifeInNZ807d ago

@zeal:

I was responding to a comment that suggested Vita was still next gen. Compared to modern mobile devices no its not.

ABizzel1807d ago

@LifeInNZ

You have to forgive people on here, they are ignorant of mobile gaming, and so they just disagree without having any experience on the subject aka blind fanboyism.

Vita is a great handheld, but any current comparatively priced tablet or smartphone has much better hardware than the Vita, and it's nothing against the Vita, it's just a fact. The Vita will be 4 years old this December. Recently mobile technology has leaped a generation every 2 years, that means the Vita is 2 generations behind, and it's 60 GFLOP GPU (at most, it's more likely in the 30's or 40's) can't stand up to standard smartphone and tablet GPU which are edging closer to 200 GFLOP (PS3 / 360), and at the high end they've already surpassed the PS360 and Wii U, with the Tegra X1.

Educate yourself people.

@Pivotplease

The big advantage Vita had, was it has real, dedicated, professional, industry developers working on games for it which is how you get amazing art-style and work like Uncharted Golden Abyss and Killzone on Vita.

Mobile doesn't have that unless you get a talented indie developer, but even without devs of that caliber mobile games still go toe to toe with anything on Vita.

Half Life 2
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Modern Combat 5 (Knock off Call of Duty)
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

NOVA 3 (Knock off Halo)
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Dark Meadow: The Pact (First Person Horror)
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Little Big Planet: Run Sackboy Run
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Real Racing 3 (Racing SIM)
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Asphalt 8 (Need for Speed / Burnout / Crusin' the World)
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Oceanhorn (Zelda Wind Waker clone)
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Mobile games have come a loooooooooong way, and while they're still clone games, at least the teams making these games are making clone of good console games now instead of regular side scrolling clones.

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ABizzel1807d ago (Edited 807d ago )

@NukaCola

Next gen as in what?

Because technologically it's been surpassed by smartphones for a long time, and is nowhere near their performance now in every way.

The Galaxy S6 is the primary Android phone, and it trounces Vita in every way.

Screen
S6: 5.1" AMOLED 1440p screen
Vita: 5" OLED 960 x 544

CPU
S6: 2.1 GHz Quad-core Cortex-A57 + 1.5 GHz Quad-core Cortex-A53
Vita: 2 GHz Quad-core ARM Cortex-A9

GPU
S6: Mali-T760MP8 (150 - 160 GFLOPS)
Vita: Quad-core PowerVR SGX543MP4+ (30 - 60 GFLOPS)

RAM:
S6: 3GB System RAM
Vita: 512MB System RAM + 128MB VRAM

Memory
S6: 16GB - 128GB internal / 64GB $20 or 128GB $80
Vita: 1GB internal / 32GB $60 or 64GB $100 external

Overall the S6 is over 3x more powerful than a Vita, and it also has better cameras, more feature, more apps, better multimedia, the only thing smartphones are missing are AAA games and a review system that makes finding good games much easier.

I love my Vita too, but a smartphone is technologically superior in every way. And smartphone games have come a long way, there are some really good games on there, and there are tons of free pick up and play games which are prefect for a handheld device, and you can easily sync a controller to them and game away, or even use HDMI-out and game on your HDTV.

Games like Killzone: Mercenaries and Uncharted Golden Abyss are what would have pushed Vita ahead of a smartphone, but games like those are pretty much done for Vita. Vita is a great little device that has a strong RPG and indie following, with 2 free games each month. It's a worthwhile handheld, but a Smartphone is just as good these days, especially if you start adding emulators.

ninjahunter806d ago

Naturally a $700 product surpasses a $200 product.

ABizzel1806d ago

@ninjahunter

lol, yeah go with the unlocked priced for argument sake. You people try so hard and for what?

But here you go.

Oneplus1 $249, Unlocked
https://oneplus.net/

Screen: 5.5" 1080p LCD Screen
CPU: 2.5 GHz Quad-core Krait 400
GPU: Adreno 330 (130 - 170 GFLOPS, depending on clock speed)
RAM: 3GB
Memory: 16GB - 64GB internal, 64GB $20 or 128GB $80 external

BLU Vivo Air: $199 (they have several models)
http://www.amazon.com/BLU-V...

Screen: 4.8" Super AMOLED LCD
CPU: 1.7GHz Octa-Core Processor (8 cores)
GPU: MALI 450 (60 GFLOPS)
RAM: 1GB
Memory: 16GB internal, 64GB $20 or 128GB $80 external

NVIDIA Shield Portable: $199
http://shield.nvidia.com/st...

Screen: 5-inch 1280x720 (assume it's LCD)
CPU: 1.9 GHz Quad-Core ARM Processor
GPU: Tegra 4 (75 GFLOPS)
RAM: 2GB
Memory: 16GB internal / expandable Yes, how much ???

NVIDIA Shield Tablet: $299 / $399 (4G version)
http://shield.nvidia.com/st...

Screen: 8-inch 1920x1200 (assume it's LCD)
CPU: 2.2 GHz ARM Cortex A15 CPU (Vita CPU successor, 40% better)
GPU: Tegra K1 (+300 GFLOPS)
RAM: 2GB
Memory: 16GB / 32GB internal, 64GB $20 or 128GB $80 external

Take your seat please

DragoonsScaleLegends806d ago

Specs don't matter when all the games are trash and the only form of input is a touchscreen unless you take away its portability and pair it with a controller. So your basically saying if your willing to commit a crime you can make your smartphone better by using emulators that suck ass with touchscreens while the Vita plays PS1/PSP games perfect and legally.

ABizzel1806d ago

@drpepperdude

"Specs don't matter when all the games are trash and the only form of input is a touchscreen unless you take away its portability and pair it with a controller. So your basically saying if your willing to commit a crime you can make your smartphone better by using emulators that suck ass with touchscreens while the Vita plays PS1/PSP games perfect and legally."

First off I listed specs, because @NukaCola claimed the Vita was next-gen compared to phones and 3DS.

Secondly every game I listed is above is a good game that can go toe to toe with anything of a similar genre on Vita or 3DS, and there are many more, those games I listed specifically for graphical comparisons since @Pivotplease was unaware that there are mobile games that look and plays as good as Uncharted Golden Abyss and Killzone Mercenaries on Vita.

Third the Vita is far from being the most portable device out there, but for argument sake there are tons of controllers that also function as phone cases.

Razer Junglecat
http://cdn.toucharcade.com/...

BladePad
http://assets.vr-zone.net/1...

Rii Gamepad
http://i00.i.aliimg.com/img...

Moga Gamepad
http://graphicashen.com/wp-...

All ranging for $40 - $80.

Finally there's nothing illegal about emulation. What's illegal is pirating games to run on emulation and/or using them to make a profit. That's illegal, not the emulation program, nor the downloadable ROM. Plus if you're downloading a specific ROM chances are you've already owned and played it to begin with. Also most roms are of games that are out of print that there's no other way to buy them outside of 3rd party ebay sales. And if you're scared to death of accidentally doing something illegal, then make your own iSO files of disc based games which is as easy as ripping a CD.

Once again if you don't know what you're talking about STFU and go sit down somewhere.

It amazes me how when someone tries to spread information and enlightenment about anything, you ignorant people come out in full force talking about things you know nothing about.

Just because you only know about free games on your phone, and are too simple to look up anything worthwhile, too clueless to google portable controllers for your phone, and flat out ignorant about anything worthwhile when it comes to mobile, doesn't mean every else has to be. You want to be stupid fine, but STFU and keep it moving.

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joab777807d ago

Nope. I think the furore of mobile remains our mobile devices run by IOS and android. The tech is coming, and apps like PS Now will be ready when it does. Mobile Gaming Has Become So Big That I think future mobile devices will begin adding more accessories and marketing it.

If Sony, Nintendo or MS are smart, they will build a tablet, partner w Apple or Android and get ahead of this. It makes a ton of sense for Sony actually. Because if you can sell a device that does everything an ipad does but also plays great games, real games...

3-4-5806d ago

uhhhh Nintendo is already working on their next handheld and has been for a while.

* The day they release a handheld they start doing two things:

1.) Work on refining and making the new handheld even better.

2.) Start working on the handheld after it.

They do it with consoles as well and they aren't the only one.

There will be two dedicated handhelds next gen because there is a market for two dedicated handhelds.

Tapping & swiping does not replace amazing controls and FULL GAMES.

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Fro_xoxo807d ago

Vita is a prime example of unrealized potential.

You can have the hardware, but it's what you do with it that counts.

#VitaOnwer

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Console-quality games just don't work on handhelds.. they are usually sub-par experiences for example, COD: declassified.

games catered to handheld do better on that platform for example, Tearaway.

Nonscpo807d ago

Thank You!!! Yes I agree with you, what matters isn't graphics but gameplay. Who cares how pretty the game looks, if the game doesn't fit the hardware it's meant to be played in.

LifeInNZ807d ago

I disagree. Mobile devices can support console style gaming when paired with a controller. Also, some console/pc games work fantastically with a touch screen, Sims, Tower Defense, Walking Dead, etc.

The gap is closing and its closing fast.

pivotplease807d ago (Edited 807d ago )

Also LBP Vita might have been my favourite in the series and I've played every single game in the franchise barring Sackboy's prehistoric moves or whatever. Tearaway is another great example for sure and after seeing PS4 footage I can confidently say the Vita is the best place to play it. Also, PSone classics on the go anybody? The PS4 doesn't yet support these and most people don't have a PSP that works so flawlessly anymore.

luis_spartano807d ago

Hope not.

I really trust Sony when it cames to console gaming. But it does not apply to Sony's portable gaming anymore, unfortunately.

pivotplease807d ago

Sadly agree. I feel the same way about Nintendo and home consoles.

jholden3249807d ago

At least Nintendo home consoles have fun games

MasterCornholio806d ago (Edited 806d ago )

@j

The PS4 and the XB1 have fun games as well.

Or did you believe that all people did was watch Netflix on them?

Too easy.

😂

Summons75807d ago

Of course there will be. Nintendo isn't going to just give up that market when the 3DS is doing to well. The NX is most likely going to be the next gen having 2 screen gaming at home and then you take it on the go, no hassles, no internet, no lag. I kinda doubt Sony will venture back into the mobile market with how bad the Vita is selling and their clear uncaring and non-support for the system. Maybe when the Ps5 comes out they will attempt to doing a mobile/home system since thats the only thing they say when they talk about the Vita is the remote play but that is pretty unlikely.

pivotplease807d ago

It would make the most sense for them to attempt to have he systems be a year apart max for power reasons so they can have a really cohesive set of companion systems. While the PS3 and PSP felt somewhat linked and the Vita feels a bit more linked withcrossplay and superior remote play, I think they could do even better in this department by developing both systems concurrently and not having release gaps (2003 and 2006 and now 2011 and 2013).

TXIDarkAvenger807d ago (Edited 807d ago )

I can actually see the market shifting to Gaming Tablets.

I currently own the Nvidia shield and there are so many possible games I can play on it. Tons of emulators to play old school games and also the ability to stream games from my PC is pretty sweet with virtually no lag.

I don't think Nintendo will leave the handheld market though as they obviously still have a very strong presence.

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