Eric Hirshberg discusses decision to move timed-exclusivity away from Microsoft - Gamespot
So basically because the ps4 is selling so well
The #1 franchise in terms of revenue aligns itself with the #1 console. Shocking.
Doesn't always work that way. Wii was by far the best selling system last gen and CoD didn't have exclusive deals. I honestly don't think MS are chasing these games anymore. They don't really need them since they have there own games such Halo 5 counters COD and KI counters SF5 etc.
I don't know Azzanation, to me it feels like MS is FINALLY starting to run XBOX like a business. How many billions have fallen into the hole marked "xbox"? Seems to me that refusing to keep paying Activision for something they aren't going to get (competition for PS4) in return. AKA the return on investment just isn't there. It WAS there in the early PS3/360 days. It was a way to show gamers that xbox was the place to play. They're just about selling HALF as many units so far as PS4. Throwing money at Activision isn't going to change that. I think xbox's console division is done when this gen is done. Xbox will live on as a windows 10/11/12 whatever service, and thats OK. It is the one thing that MIGHT give Steam a run for its money. PC is a space that could use more competition.
@Reallynow "PC is a space that could use more competition." That's a pretty strange thing to say. PC is already a completely open platform, with multiple games distribution services. As consumers we already reap the benefits of that quite handsomely. On-topic, it will be interesting to see who has the inevitable marketing deal for Titanfall 2. Would be lovely if the answer was "nobody", but we all know that's not gonna happen.
That's it in a nutshell. Can you blame them? Tbh though, it's good for MS. They've been paying a ton without a return for awhile. It became almost the status quo, and ppl expected it. In the meantime, it had 0 effect on whether ppl played on PS3, as it caught up, and no effect on ppl buying a PS4. I know like 5 ppl that play nothing but CoD and they all switched to the PS4 regardless of dlc exclusivity. This is simply a bonus.
"... it's good for MS. They've been paying a ton without a return for awhile." Dem you Sony for being so successful! with your PS4. Blame Microsoft for not doing an adequate job ...
Pretty much yeah.
@Azzanation The wii doesn't seem right for someone to play shooters it mainly for family/friend type of games not competitive like battlefield or cod. And how could halo compete with cod if it doesn't release annually.
Yeah pretty much its that simple. I'll be playing other things besides COD this year personally. Games are too ridiculous at this point.
The "right decision" would be that all buyers of any Call of Duty game would be that all of them have access to the DLC at the same time. Oh, but they don't mean the "right decision for gamers, just us suits". Doesn't affect me as I don't play Call of Duty multiplayer, but it's a sleazy practice if you ask me. Not just in regards to CoD, but any series, and regardless if it's Sony or MS. Yet another terrible practice that is unfriendly to gamers as a whole and needs to stop.
i dont play multiplay but i do play Zombies and thats why im loving it as i have a PS4. and last gen i had a PS3 so i had my fair share of waitng for the DLC.. but than i got a 360 and solved that. but i only do Zombies.. RB6 will be my goto for online shooter
Microsoft started this, and now they are getting a dose of their own medicine. It's business, and bussines tend to be unfriendly towars customers most of the times in all areas. Besides, it's just some early content not lifetime. We as gamers want everything to be at our feets, but it is not that simple with these corporations.
Don't kid yourself, MS didn't start this at all. It existed before MS even had a console.
I see your point, but its fine. There's no problem with companies offering incentives to play on 1 system or another. It had a huge effect early on in the 360's life, but it wasn't exclusivity alone. It was Live, their controller, MS'S message, their gamer friendly attitude. It WAS the place to play CoD. But eventually, that changed as the PS3 caught up. Ppl didn't care if they waited 30 days for dlc. I'm actually surprised Sony paid them at all. I'm not surprised MS is done with it.
Depends on your perspective I guess. If you own a PS4 it might be fine, if you don't own a PS4 then you get mildly shafted. Think we can all agree we'd rather Sony/MS concentrated in investing the money in games, rather than slimey deals. Unfortunately the slimey deals are effective, so they won't stop any time soon. Sony have scored some big ones for the mainstream too, with COD and Star Wars. Really pushing hard for that next tier of the console market.
more $$$$$$ was the right decision. Don't kid yourself otherwise, Activision
Ppl down voted you? Must be Activision employees on this site!
I don't get the whining of early access to DLC. It comes to everyone eventually. What's the turn around time? A week?
The exclusivity will last a month. But I think most XB1 players will be occupied by the free Halo 5 maps so I don't think it is such a big concern to xb1 players at this point. Edit @ bnwfanatic, Like for real? Most of the buyers will consist of repeat buyers of the series for years. I am pretty sure they know it is a multiplatform game. During the entire MS COD period, I am sure PS3 and PS4 sold a few COD as well as it it is still the most sold series on a PS platform as well. You Tell Me There most of those buyers for COD on PS3 are not casual? You guys are looking way too much into this "ps/xbox logo" at the end of the commercial. Destiny, which Sony tried their hardest to make it seems like a PS4 exclusive..but somehow on NPD report in th e USA of all the months that the game was on the chart from Sep, Oct, Sec, Jan, the XB1 is always the most sold retail unit of the bunch.
The dlc stuff isnt the big part. Its that all the cod commercials will say PlayStation instead of xbox. That is huge for the casual people who dont visit gaming sites and think its only on PlayStation. Also the cod tournaments will be played on PlayStation. @ rookie I am sure Activision and sony know better than you how well the Sony branding of cod works. Most people in the industry know how big a deal it is. Or maybe they should hire you huh? Im sure you could run a billion dollar company.
CoD will no doubt help push consoles for PS4 just because people will want to stay on top because of the tournament scene, I don't like CoD at all, much rather play Rainbow, Halo and Gears. It's a good deal for Sony though overall.
@bmw it is a big deal... just like its a big deal for PC gamers to have better graphics in their version of a game.. and 4k, better fps, mods... if these things werent a big deal companies wouldnt bother. ppl will buy PS4 to get DLC first..
@bmwfanatic, "rookie I am sure Activision and sony know better than you" Wait, so are saying other companies like EA are not as competence as Sony and Activision when they granted the Fifa marketing deal to MS when the PS was the preferred platform for all these years? Yup, I don't think $$$ got anything to do with it!. :/
I doubt most Xbox users will be to busy with Halo, go look at how fast Halo 4's playerbase dropped when a CoD game released a week or so after, it never really recovered from it either. Also NPD doesn't include bundles, which the PS4 version sold a lot of. For the lazy. http://i.imgur.com/PmG3gKo....
Yeah, keep deluding yourself...Destiny sold more on the PS4 even in North America and overall the game has nearly twice as many gamers on the PS4 version, and this is according to VG Chartz which is no fan of Sony. If you think the COD DLC exclusivity is no big deal, that's fine, you are entitled to an opinion but please don't make up stats.
Destiny sold more on Xbox One? lol We know that you are a troll and a really desperate one, always trolling on a PS4 article, and i mean every article. Now here is a real fact for you, Call of Duty sells even more than Halo on a Xbox platform, just check the number of players of both games.
@IIFloodyII True. it's just some people still don't realize that Halo isn't that much of a big francise anymore, it's still big but way smaller than it used to be
Most people are whining because now if they want to compete in mlg they have to play on ps4 and they can't afford to buy a ps4.
Sounds like an issue with MLG's side than DLC times. MLG should make it so that only non DLC maps are eligible until it's released platform wide.
@GreenUp That's actually hilarious . Using DLC maps day 1 is fine as long as they land on Xbox first, but if Sony gets the DLC first then the maps should be banned until Xbox has them too. ROFLMFAO
Where did he say it was fine if it was the other way around? I can't speak for him, but I think it's kinda bullcrap either way.
Turn around time on Destiny was a year (if ever). COD was usually something like a month on the Xbox side and probably will be again, but I don't think it has been specified. Can't say I've ever bought a COD map pack or Destiny expansion myself though. Activision DLC is always hilariously overpriced anyway lol
Same with BF. I never buy the second half of these games. Not contributing to the greedy ways of these companies. The sheep have no problem buying though. Then crying about it if one platform gets it a month ahead. Bahhhh
CoD is just getting worse and worse, its shameful how little innovation there is considering the money they make off it. I do think the zombies is the best thing about it, but that wouldn't interest me if we got another Left 4 dead game.
But you can wall run in this one. I've never seen that before so that's innovative(!)
N4G predicted this since the ps4 launch when it was dominating 2:1 I gotta give it to you guys, i wasnt expecting MS to let go of it that easy but i guess they did
Pretty sure the roi wasn't there to invest in exclusive content. Hey are focusing on their 1st party which they should of done from the start. It's a good change for ms
Microsoft had no choice, every company want's to go with Sony this gen because they're console is 2 times more popular and thus they sell more software on PS4
I just hope this new relationship between sony and activision leads to a new crash game eventually sony are securing more and more third party exclusives from big publishers so why not one from activision
Basically because one company payed more for it..Nothing else
Let's say, for the sake of example, the deal cost 20 million; do you think it would have cost MS the same amount given their sales and market share deficit compared to Sony? Of course not. Sony would have paid far less than it would have been necessary for MS to pay to secure the DLC and marketing rights. This surely makes it a better deal for Sony than for MS, right now, but don't be fooled into thinking Sony paid more than MS were willing to pay, as contracts just don't work that way. If they were competing on even bids, it might have been a different story. I'm sure MS would love to have this deal as well as Halo this year, but Sony had the upper hand in this negotiation and it's a massive win for them, in terms of prospective console sales and especially in the eyes of the average consumer. This could be perceived as a notable power shift in the US...
I dont know if you have noticed but MS has of lately passed on multiple deals like this..It seems that their focus is on applying their budget to creating new ip instead of relying on 3rd party dlc content...Also,im sure they have looked at the numbers and seen that call of duty is in decline in terms of sales..So maybe giving them millions for dlc content was a waste of money to them..
The PS4 has console exclusivity with Street Fighter 5. That will sell a few million PS4s. The COD timed exclusive DLC could push sales of PS4 depending if Call Of Duty remains as popular as it was last gen. Also Destiny sold Twice as much on PS4 as Xbox One so the commercials having PS4 logos do have a large effect on the casual shooter fan.
It took street fighter 4 6 years, 4 iterations and release on every major platform available including 3ds PC and Mobile (IOS version) to sell 8 million copies. And you expect it to sell millions of PS4s like its nothing lol. It's also out on PC, where people can use what ever controls they want to play it. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/...
I assume the PS3 version will obviously be included in the timed exclusivity even though the bigwigs haven't mentioned it. Funny how the people who stated Xbox console being the alleged dudebro shooter feat platform like it was a bad thing are now excited for PlayStation to adopt the same marketing scheme aggressively
Did you witness the script in Gears, for example? Did you see the post-match celebrations during the Halo 5 beta? There's your answer. Regarding COD, the point is there are people that ONLY play that game. The 'Xbox only' guys out there in this camp, whether they've made the next gen leap or not, will likely buy a PS4 for this - certainly competition/tournament players will and they always used to be held on Xbox. I'm not sure anyone's "excited" by the deal/marketing, but to fail to see the relevance and potential impact within the market is just crazy, not to mention the public perception this shift might bring.
What do those things have to do with anything? I doubt that people ONLY play CoD. But that same dudebro mentality should be transfered to the PlayStation brand
This was the right decision for everyone...even MS. It would have been a waste of money for MS to spend the money on this esp with Halo 5 coming out around the same time....every indication is that they didn't even try to get the DLC rights this time....which de facto makes it the right choice for PS/Activision. Not to mention COD sales don't favor PS4 that heavily anyway...despite the difference in console sales (although with Halo 5 this year, PS4 may have a much more significant lead in COD sales this time). MS had games they wanted to invest in, PS4 has a shallow Holiday season as far as exclusives....it was a win win for both sides. I still think it'd be funny if MS just turned around and said that all COD MP games would be supported 100% by dedicated servers...
Activision would never allow dedicated servers in one and not the other. They didn't allow it with ghosts , they didnt for advanced warfare and they certainly won't cancel the check Sony paid for the partnership to do it now. Seems like the only woes will be from those MLG players who don't like the PS controllers. They will get used to it I guess. They are going to have to.
I can see that being true...but then again, if MS footed the bill with their own servers....what really could Activision say? Would they publicly come out and say "No don't make our game better....we took money from PS and you're not allowed to do that"
@pistols They pretty much already said that on advanced warfare. They are using the old much more latent method now. Through matchmaking and listen servers.
I have bought every call of duty since I bought an Xbox 360 (launch) mostly for split screen multiplayer. Out of that I have bought call of duty DLC 3 times. Every time I have bought the DLC I have felt alienated from far too many people on Xbox live as it's not a very large percentage that buys DLC. I will prolly still buy call of duty games, prolly not this year since there are a tonne of other games coming this year, but who gets DLC first in this case won't sway me either way, as I typically don't buy it anyways, so for me, it's not a big deal.
More likely Microsoft weren't really interested in renewing the deal. The exclusivity with xbox last time didn't harm sales of the playstation version so Activision would have been quite willing to take Microsoft moneys if they offered it. The fact is the COD is losing it's appeal so Microsoft didn't make any effort to get the deal. If they did they could have quite easily outbid Sony. They actually probably see it as a competitor to Halo 5 and with both games coming out around the same time they chose to back Halo 5.
This CoD deal was a good deal.........for MS to let go of. They can take that Money at put it into exclusives. I look forward to playing CoD on my xbox and am willing to wait a month for DLC. Funny how this CoD marketing deal was bad for gaming when MS had it and CoD was a casual dudebro game but now the Sony has it CoD is the best game ever. Lol.
More money. That's all this article needed to say lol.
The right decision would've been to stop the Cod series about three or four games ago.
Not really, the franchises pumped lots of money for them, stop making CoD is the last thing they'll do. They got 3 studios working on CoD. The right decision is to let the guys create their own unique CoD like how Turn 10 and Playground Games both work on the Forza franshises. A historical CoD all about the story and the war A present-day CoD heavily emphasize on tactical gameplay And A Futuristic CoD with all the crazy sh!t they can think of.
"The partnership with Sony was the right decision at this time," he said. "They've been a great partner on Destiny, and they have a ton of momentum with the PS4 and really got behind this thing. They wanted to see that deal on their platform. We're going to make it work." Pretty much Sonys support and the way the system is selling. Makes sense to me. Reading between the lines it appears that for some reason Microsoft didn't really want the deal. And no "because they got Halo" isn't the reason because Halo and CODs came out before in the past with a marketing deal favoring Xbox. Edit: Halo 4 and Black Ops 2 came out at the end of 2013.
Yes reading between the lines that's what happened. I have both consoles and know that the previous deal with Microsoft didn't harm sales of the playstation version as I had Ghosts on both consoles and the online population was at least 50% higher on ps4. It makes no difference to activision which console has the deal because it doesn't really effect sales. The fact is Activision are a business and Sony offered them more money for the deal. MS obviously weren't that interested because if they were they could quite easily have outbid Sony. If sales of the xbox version go down it won't be because of the deal with Sony it will be due to there being more multiplayer competition on xbox. I actually cancelled my pre-order for COD to order halo 5 instead due to both game being released a couple of weeks apart.
All nice talk about great partnerships and falling in love with the game, but we all know that, as normal in business, the driving force was one thing and one thing only: https://youtu.be/Za3G8aLSF0...
Money makes anything the right decision
MS dropped cod.
Its Activision. They wont give nothing away for free. If Nintendo gave them the money. Nintendo would have got the deal. The conversation went like this. https://www.youtube.com/wat...
Lol... I can wait 30 days.... No sweat off my nuts Activision haha
looking forward to this on the ps4
Sony is definitely throwing money at timed exclusives, exclusive DLC and other similar practices that they once said they would never do. It is funny to see people support this when not so long ago it was considered bad for the industry and a lot were saying that this kind of practices are only designed to keep the games out of gamers hands. Now all I'm reading is how much "sense" it makes or people who were vocal in the past not say anything at all now that the roles have been reversed. Interesting.
A #1 franchise coming FIRST to the #1 console seems like a no brainer to me. The PS4 version is going to bury the Xbone's in sales.
Of course it is money. However, people say CoD is dieing, but preorder levels are way above Ghost and AW levels, just not BO2 yet. Some can argue it is to play the Beta for a week and then cancel, but whatever. This and SFV will sell millions of units. Money well spent.