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Nintendo Has To Change It's Ways: Or They Will End Up Like SEGA

Nintendo released the Wii U in 2012 before the current generation of consoles, and hoped that it would follow the success of its predecessor the Wii. That didnt happen, in fact the complete opposite. Nintendo must look back at these mistakes if it wants to save the Wii U and succeed with their next console and this is what they must do...

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RPGrinder807d ago

Oh? This blog again? With the inflammatory and false statements?

Like Sega? Last time I checked, Nintendo was in profit, made the best games, had the number 1 handheld and the number 1 product in the toys to life category and were doing pretty ok.

How is that like Sega?

Just because you did not like the E3, you make the false leap like they are like Sega? Most journalists are predicting Nintendo will be the number 1 publisher again this year for making the best games.

Enough with this false Nintendo hate.

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Peace_Love_and_FPS807d ago

While they may be in profit, game quality is subjective. You're right though, author goes way overboard, but if market share is any indicator then Nintendo needs to change. Honestly, I want them to improve, I didn't buy a WiiU because quite frankly it looks like s*** to me (not everyone's opinion).

3DS, which I just got 2 days ago mostly because I missed smash bros, is awesome, and doesn't need to change what it's doing, but their home console game is weak and they know it. 3rd party titles are a necessity.

RPGrinder807d ago

The quality of the games is really not subjective when the review base for each Nintendo game is about 50-60 reviewers. We can draw pretty good conclusions.

As bad as Wii U is selling, it still has the best exclusive games that you can find on any system. What does that tell you about the purchasing base?

Peace_Love_and_FPS807d ago (Edited 807d ago )

You do realize that games are for fun, and different people have different ideas of what fun is right? I'm a huge pokemon and smash bros fan, but lots of their games never really appealed to me. Game quality is subjective, let people draw their own conclusions (because reviewers are always accurate! :) yay sheep /S)

Point is, it's not doing well. Doesn't matter how good you think games are, it's not, nooo way of getting around that fact. That tells me that Nintendo needs to become a little more active in securing market share.

I want NX to beat out the other consoles, because the WiiU can't.

feelforlove807d ago

"As bad as Wii U is selling, it still has the best exclusive games that you can find on any system. What does that tell you about the purchasing base?"

yes, so far Wii U had better exclusives than PS4 and Xbox One. Also Wii U was released 1 year before, or we shouldn't take that into account?

"Pulling numbers out of your ass now? Wii U is the highest selling console in Japan out of all the consoles out right now (other than PS3 which is much higher).

you don't think that has something to do with Wii U being 2,5 years on market in Japan and not even 1,5 years PS4?

Monster_Tard807d ago

"you don't think that has something to do with Wii U being 2,5 years on market in Japan and not even 1,5 years PS4?"

Nope, As it's still currently outselling the PS4 in Japan. Nintendo is just more popular with the Japaneses.

wonderfulmonkeyman807d ago (Edited 807d ago )

You would only have a point if the Wii U, during its first year, sold like the PS4 did during its first year.
When sales drop like a rock mere months after release, you can't count that as a significant advantage.

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REDDURT807d ago

People like you are reassuringly what's wrong with Nintendo.

RPGrinder807d ago (Edited 807d ago )

Why? Because I buy the awesome games they put out?

Not every company is perfect. They all make mistakes and are making mistakes right now. Nintendo gets the brunt of these articles.

Nintendo - No third party suppport, console hardware
Sony - Vita, no first party games of substance right now
Microsoft - First party games, string of broken games like the halo collection

I can go on and on.

How many poorly written blogs do we need? This is not even journalism

-Foxtrot807d ago

@RPGrinder

No because you settle for less which means Nintendo won't go the extra mile to push themselfs.

There is a reason why there games have been top quality over the years...because they have been making the same stuff with the same layouts for years. Once you do something enough you can't mess it up.

Take Animal Crossing for example, New Leaf could have had a shit load of features, some which are in their new game Happy Home Designer but they don't take their time to add them. They'd rather just add one or two new things in each game.

RPGrinder807d ago (Edited 807d ago )

@Foxtrot

"There is a reason why there games have been top quality over the years...because they have been making the same stuff with the same layouts for years. Once you do something enough you can't mess it up."

So is that why Pikmin has been critically acclaimed? Because there are so many of those? How about Pushmo?

Your point is ridiculous

"Take Animal Crossing for example, New Leaf could have had a shit load of features, some which are in their new game Happy Home Designer but they don't take their time to add them. They'd rather just add one or two new things in each game."

Animal Crossing New Leaf sold 5+ million copies, over 85 metacritic. Journalists loved the game. Your nitpicking.

How many new features has each Uncharted added? How many features as each new halo added? You do not have to add 100 features to each new game to be good and make a lot of people happy.

-Foxtrot807d ago

@ROGrinder

Don't bring up other games like Uncharted and Halo. Uncharted has more detail in each new game which Nintendo has just started to add in the entire Mario franchise since the NES. If Nintendo made Uncharted it would still look like Drakes Fortune. Do you think they would add little details such as characters grabbing railings as they make their way up/down stairs or what about the details on someones facial hair....they couldn't be arsed to do that it would take them too much time which is why they don't push themselves.

I couldn't give a crap what journalists think, if they game is good quality then they can't mark it down because they know Nintendo white knights like you will bash them for criticising Nintendo. Remember when someone gave Skyward Sword a 7.5 review score despite the fact that compared to past games SS was lacking and a step back for the franchise.

RPGrinder807d ago (Edited 807d ago )

@Fox

Are you freaking kidding me? Greg Miller of team Kinda Funny and former playstation writer even said how the structure of every uncharted is basically the same. Amazing games with little innovation according to him.

"Do you think they would add little details such as characters grabbing railings as they make their way up/down stairs or what about the details on someones facial hair"

Does this make a game great? Come on. Facial hair?

" http://www.ign.com/articles... These are just a fraction of the extra details Nintendo put in 3D World.

....they couldn't be arsed to do that it would take them too much time which is why they don't push themselves.

You come off as very very angry, with very little reason behind it.

Fire Emblem, Splatoon, Xenoblade X just came out. Too critical acclaim and to high sales. You keep worrying about facial hair, I will worry about gameplay and hoping that is spot on :)

I have a feeling you spend more time complaining about games than playing them.

@Mr.Swank

Sony went from there top selling portable to the last place system globally, even selling worse than the Wii U. Yet they go on. Handheld software was up last year. Not down. PS3 and PS4 are not selling as well as PS2 did not (especially in Japan) but they keep doing great.

-Foxtrot807d ago

RPGrinder

LOL

Oh well if Gregg Miller says so they f*** me it must be true

I give up

Just remember the reason why Nintendo is doing so poorly is because of fans like you.

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MrSwankSinatra807d ago

Nintendo's handheld business shrink year over year due to the rise of mobile and their console bushiness is pretty much a joke at this point. They literally went from their best selling console last generation to their worst selling console this generation. Yet you try to act like everything is just pixie dust and rainbows with Nintendo.

pompombrum807d ago

Sssshh it's all those mushrooms!

3-4-5807d ago

* It's called game shockers...let me guess....they post "shocking news", which is mostly made up BS opinion that resembles only 5% of the truth.

* I remember these articles from my High School news paper back in the day.

About the same quality

PSWiiKing807d ago

Exactly! Enough of bashing Nintendo already. Enough of Nintendoom articles. Just because of one bad E3 performance, doesn't mean Nintendo is gonna go the way of SEGA. The reason why fans bashed Nintendo's E3 Performance is because they were on that Shenmue 3, Final Fantasy 7 HD Remake High. They placed that bar way too high, and expected way too much. I'm sorry, but that's the truth.

ABizzel1807d ago

It has nothing to do with 1 bad E3, the Wii U has been doing awful going on 3 years now.

It's nice to have some great games on it, but there are only a handful of games to choose from unless you like everything Nintendo makes, which realistically the majority of gamers don't.

They have no western 3rd party support which is a group of games that are fan favorites as well, but more importantly help fill the dry months, which Nintendo suffers from more than anyone else.

And the Wii U is still selling for $299, when the PS4 and XBO are literally $50 - $100 more, with none of those issues, much better online networks, much more market share, much better hardware, and much better multimedia uses.

At this point the Wii U is a must buy console for the core Nintendo console gamer, which based on GC sales is less than 25m users, because their true core gamer exist on their handhelds (Pokemon fans = +10m sells).

For most core gamers the Wii U is a secondary console at best, and for the majority of all other gamers +250m people, the Wii U is a non-factor.

Those of us in here offering constructive criticism are trying to stop Nintendo from failing once again with the NX, as they've been doing the last 4 generations (except sales wise for the Wii). Nintendo are lost and they need to listen to the fans who are complaining, not the apologist, and not Nintendo of JP who makes consoles for their JP audience of 10m vs the potential 50+ million western gamers.

HumanatPlay807d ago

The way I see it, Nintendo needs to double down on hardware RnD. WiiU is grosly underpowered to be taken seriously by 3rd party developers and thats a big loss for owners of the system. The less is more approach to Nintendo hardware specs needs to change if the company plans to remain relevant in the gaming arena.

Maybay807d ago

Hey; if you ain't crying, you ain't trying. :P

Honestly speaking, they do need to change a few things (Region locking, Party Chat, software discounts, achievements), but they have their heart in the right place.

For Nintendo to be Sega; they'd have to drop support for the Wii U early (which Iwata stated - they won't), and continue that strategy for future hardware if sales are abysmal, making fans ask a question to themselves; ''why should I buy this when their last platform had no support?''

feelforlove807d ago

ATM on amazon US:

13 PlayStation products in top 20
6 Xbox products in top 20
1 Nintendo product in top 20 - Splatoon

yep, Nintendo is not dead

http://www.amazon.com/best-...

marloc_x807d ago

Only ONE first party title and a bunch of subscription cards is what I see..

benji101807d ago

Hahah you fool. There are only four games in the top 20 and one is a nintendo game. So every one is dead...

diesoft807d ago

You are EXACTLY why people hate fanboys. Your delusional bull**it is why Nintendo can continue the way it is. They're stuck in their ways and you're stuck remembering the old days when Nintendo was king. They make good games but have been behind the technology curve for way too long. SNES was king but sega had charm, too (I had both).

The n64, gamecube, wii, wii u, all took weird gimmicky turns that ultimately did NOT help them and they have been stuck using older technology since then. N64 used lower capacity cartridges (famously being cited as a reason for ff7 moving to playstation), gamecube used small discs rather than the smaller dvd standard for some insane reason, wii used inferior graphics capability in favor of a gimmick and causing an INSANE amount of shovelware because it was geared toward casuals and the wii u was only barely any better than 360 and ps3 and for a new console with at least 2 years head start on a new gaming generstaion that is pretty damaging to only be slightly better than what we've had for a long time. Nintendo needs to stop screwing around with gimmicks. It's tiring.

You are just like religious fanatics when you talk that crap: you've drawn a line in the sand and decided that everyone else who doesn't think like you is not only wrong but need to be spat on for not thinking the way you do.

Grow up and realize they are a company. They're not your salvation. Just because Nintendo does something it doesn't mean it's the best thing ever.

benji101807d ago

Nintendo saved video gaming.. Never forget.

diesoft807d ago

@benji101 Ah. We're supposed to buy everything they ever make, then. Got it.

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Italiano1234567807d ago

Selling good in other things doesn't matter when there talking about gaming consoles.

Realplaya807d ago

Is this article 100 about the same subject SMH people lets move on.

greenmeanie807d ago

I agree! I LOVE Nintendo and am a huge fan. In fact, I actually think the wii u is a GREAT console. That being said, Nintendo is doing it wrong and they are doomed to repeat the same mistakes unfortunately with the new NX. It has already been announced the the NX will not be as powerful as the ps4 or xbox one. Yes, once again Nintendo is going down the "we are doing our own thing" route. Well Nintendo, that hasn't worked very well for you since the N64. Yes, the wii was a hit, but it quickly fizzled out after a large take off. Nintendo could dominate the market easily if they directly competed with the other consoles. They have the BEST franchises. Imagine Nintendo franchises on a ps4 or xbox one. THIS is how they should be making the NX. Play it safe for once Nintendo, don't make it too complicated, and make sure you have 3rd party support. SIMPLE! The console needs to be a smart, full HD, 100% multimedia machine with the ability to run apps, integrate with your home theater system, with SOLID online gameplay. If they do this, they will be on top again, if they don't, they might just end up the way of Sega...

Peace_Love_and_FPS807d ago

It's a rumor that it's not as powerful, from one man. I don't think they're that ridiculously stupid :)

greenmeanie807d ago

Let's hope you are right, but knowing that Nintendo has said this many times in the past, gives this rumor some sort of credibility. I really do hope it is a rumor though and that the console is on par if not MORE powerful than the other current gen systems.

Whitey2k807d ago

All Nintendo has to do is the same cpu as the xbox and ps4 and all they need is a gpu that's equivalent or inbetween ps4 and xbone so it's not that powerful nor it would b weak

RPGrinder807d ago

"All they have to do......." The battle cry of many an internet back seat driver.

Do you have any game experience?

I remember when Nintendo invented rumble, they got crap for not keeping the status quo, when they invented the analog, when they put portable gaming on the map.

Nintendo is innovative. Sometimes things hit, and sometimes they miss. I want them to keep being innovative.

Italiano1234567807d ago

They did not invent analog. It was used years and years before that but the dualshock came out in april of 96 the n64 pad came out in June of 96

superchiller807d ago

Except no, Gimmicks do not = "Innovation", and all Nintendo has been known for, for over a decade, is gimmicks.

-- "Glasses free 3D" = gimmick (which most people just turn off)
-- Wii Waggle motion controls = gimmick (and the Wii died years ago, long before the PS3 and 360 which are still doing well today, when the fad fizzled out)
-- Gamepad for Wii U = gimmick, one that sapped huge resources away from the base console, due to its high cost, leaving the base console unable to compete, this generation

People have had enough of Nintendo's "innovation", its time for the company to actually focus on solid gaming hardware, instead of pushing unappealing gimmicks on the public. That message is more than clear, with the poor sales of the Wii U.

uth11807d ago

No- They need to do more than that.

They need a third party support commitment. You aren't going to win converts if their favorite third party games aren't available.
Their online capabilities also need to be on par.

wonderfulmonkeyman807d ago

Specifically, they need a commitment for more new ports and exclusives from third parties.

Nobody is gonna get an NX for third party if the only games availale are the same games they already own on the PS4 and XBone.

noksucow73807d ago

Not sure that would work Whitey2k. They tried this with the WiiU remember? Make it as powerful as the 360, or PS3, and it can compete again. Then the Xbox 1 and PS4 came out, and it was , or is behind again in terms of hardware power. They really just need to get 3rd party support. Do whatever it takes to get it. Heavy marketing, and spend some of that cash from the handheld division to court some of the big 3rd party publishers/devs.