Are Microsoft over-revving the Forza franchise?

Steve Clist shares his love for the Forza franchise and asks whether Microsoft are mishandling one of their franchise favourites.

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nicksetzer1870d ago (Edited 870d ago )

IMO no, we get a motorsport entry which is a sim every two years and we get a horizon entry which is an open world arcade racer every 2 years.

The quality of the games goes up with every entry and frankly the quality was through the roof to begin with. As long as playground and turn 10 continue to deliver amazing games I see no problem.

I think people just get hung up on the fact that they used the name forza for both franchises, they are different games. Every 2 years is not too often at all, in fact, I look forward to the forza entries every year.

The day the quality takes a hit is the day I complain, so far it has been quite the opposite.

4Sh0w870d ago (Edited 870d ago )

The short answer is No....but if you think theres too much Forza just skip one until the next Forza and let us car racing game nuts enjoy what I consider the best racing franchise in gaming.

Its like showing up to a buffet and complaining theres too much food -NO, as long it tastes great, eat 'til you are full then go home, don't complain 'cause other people are still eating....or sort a like that.

christocolus870d ago (Edited 870d ago )

@Nick and @4show

Well said. We keep seeing these articles but are they really necessary? Horizon and Motorsport are two different type of racing games,fans enjoy the variety provided by both,they are top notch and are always successful, MS should just call Forza Horizon PGR then maybe we will stop seeing these articles.

870d ago
nicksetzer1870d ago (Edited 870d ago )

@xbob "Forza 5 was done half-ass and not a real forza game"

Really? It was a launch game for a new console generation that had a completely new engine, 1080p 60fps, (locked) over 200 cars, drivatars, full car customization (paint and parts) multiplayer with custom game modes, top gear challenges and car descriptions, free tracks and cars after launch, etc.

Name any other game this gen (other than horizon 2 and soon motorsport 6) that has had anywhere near that level of content, even 2 years after launch.

The sad part is, even with all that, at launch, people like you whine and moan about the crowd? What a joke. Then you have those who whine that over 200 cars isn't enough, yet are completely fine with the content of other racers that launch with 50 or less cars...

bouzebbal870d ago

As long as there is demand and quality keep being there then no. Useless article

beans870d ago


"Its like showing up to a buffet and complaining theres too much food -NO, as long it tastes great, eat 'til you are full then go home, don't complain"

That was well said lol.

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Godmars290870d ago

But is a two year gap between releases really a gap when it take 3-4 years at least to make modern AAA game?

moldybread870d ago

does it take 3-4 years to make aaa racing games? there are a lot of people at turn 10 and what they have been able to do since forza 5 seems rather impressive. sports games seem to come out annually so i'm not sure we need 3-4 years for each entry in racing game franchise.

nicksetzer1870d ago (Edited 870d ago )

"But is a two year gap between releases really a gap when it take 3-4 years at least to make modern AAA game?"

Considering they have done it for almost 10 years now, yes. Every forza game since the first was 2 years apart. Every motorsport game was 2 years apart.

Your argument really makes no sense at all when you look at the fact that they ARE doing it and have been since its inception. Not only do they release every 2 years but they always release an excellent game every 2 years.

Forza 5 was a launch game and was criticized for lack of content, but there hasn't been a single racing game that launched with anywhere near that amount of content since other than horizon 2. In fact, not any game has really come close to having over 200 cars at release with 12 tracks each having 4-11 variations, full car customization, top gear challenges, multiplayer modes (from standard races to cat and mouse) and extra 4 tracks for free, extra cars for free, etc.

Even crazier Forza 6 is more than doubling the cars and tracks. I'd say 2 years is plenty if they can do all that in that time. Along with adding weather, (including physics such as lower traction and aquaplaning) day night, split-screen, 1080p 60fps, drivatars are returning, full car customization as always, (parts and paint, to a level no other console game has ever matched) customizable multiplayer modes, etc.

rainslacker870d ago (Edited 870d ago )

I don't think they're remaking the entire game with each iteration, so a two year cycle isn't that far out of the realm of believably.

For the most part, they're updating what is there, and adding new features which make it better.

I mean, there's no reason to remodel every single car with each release,maybe just update certain things.. There's no reason to remodel the entire track each release, maybe just apply better shaders or up the polycount or whatever.. No reason why they can't add in a feature like weather and just apply the proper physics to the assets which already exist. So on and so forth.

Forza is a quality franchise, so seems that every couple years for a substantial update is not that unreasonable.

870d ago

Sooooo....basically you think they should be like Grand Turisimo??? Ummm no, they are putting out top notch racers every two years....i am ready for the next and would rather not have to wait 4 or 5 years for the next racing game.

Godmars290870d ago

I think that they shouldn't be copying from the COD/Battlefield book of game making note for note and being praised for features not only added by their competition 2-3 games ago, like weather and night transitions, but by themselves, like Drivatars.

This is the same brain-dead fan worship, the "Its better than GT" that happens everytime with this game. Nevermind that unless either Forza or GT go multi, it means nothing.

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3-4-5870d ago

* 2 year dev cycle and two studios working on it, one for main series and one for Horizon.

It's fine.

jackwei22870d ago (Edited 870d ago )

Forza has become an established racing franchise like Gran Turismo so the answer is no.

StrayaKNT870d ago

No I spent $1000 for a wheel setup so I can use it, forza 6 can't come soon enough.
Forza horizon 2 was also the best racing game I have ever played so the more forza, the better. Plus motorsport and horizon are like apples and oranges

nicksetzer1870d ago (Edited 870d ago )

"Plus motorsport and horizon are like apples and oranges"

Absolutely correct, and in my case I love the apples (motorsport) and the oranges. (Horizon) As I said some just see the name forza and aren't able to see anything past that.

StrayaKNT870d ago

Well most will know it's different they just won't admit it because it's not on their console so they try to down talk everything but at the end of the day we're the winners because we will be playing the best games :)

Khajiit86870d ago


The winners? lol How old are you? Really, How old are you?

I dont miss Forza 1 bit as I have Project Cars, Driveclub, Asseto Corsa atm

christocolus870d ago

Agreed. well said. bubs up Aussie.

Halo2ODST2870d ago

Disagreed. Not well said. Bubs down...

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RJ92009870d ago (Edited 870d ago )

Nope one of the few racing series I buy each year!! I want a new pgr dam it!! You hear me MS were is pgr on the Xbox one I need my kudos fix!!

QuickdrawMcgraw870d ago

When there are not that many great AAA games to choose from for the Xbox1....Then a constant new Forza is more then welcome....

Elit3Nick870d ago

that salt is burning my nostrils

Spotie870d ago

You shouldn't sniff salt...

WildDonkey870d ago

Not that many great AAA games on either console. Less on PS4 in my opinion and I own both.

StrayaKNT870d ago (Edited 870d ago )

Yeah I own both aswell, libraries can't even be compared right now xbox has heaps more and better AAA games imo forza 6 looks like another masterpiece to add to the library

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