PS4 seeks to become the 'home of fighting games' as Capcom's relationship with Sony strengthens.
Smart thing to do. If you dominate a genre then fans of that genre will pick your console up, knowing it's the go to for said genre. Same thing 360 did with the FPS last-gen. This gen it seems to be all about open world.
I feel like alot of japanese devs last gen tried too hard to attract the western crowd and kinda lost alot of fans in the process. Im glad they went back to their roots. The more JRPG's, the better.
Agreed. I think they saw the JP console gaming market was shrinking, but it's the fact that they're JP games that the western audience, buys their games anyway. They're unique and different.
Very true. Even Square seems to have come back home, early this generation. I certainly wasn't expecting their E3 conference to be as good as it was. Never mind FFVII.
Hmm, i guess this is why the Ultra SF4 tournament at Evo 2015 will be played on XBOX 360.
the PS4 version was suppoed to be the definitive edition, instead it was a shambles, that is the only reason. besides this may very well be the last SF4 Evo
Just because Sony has the ambition, doesn't mean Capcom does. At least when it comes to choosing a developer that can port properly, which isn't a problem exclusive to them.
@DragonKnight, @bruce755 Sony produced and published the PS4 version, so it was Sony's fault, they were in charge of the port and they chose the developer. EDIT: http://blog.us.playstation.... First paragraph: "What’s more, [SCEA’s] Third Party Production is producing and publishing both titles for those platforms."
@Artemus: Ultra Street Fighter 4 was ported to PS4 by Other Ocean Interactive and Capcom made assurances that the input lag from the PS3 version would be fixed and they weren't. Sony did not develop the game, nor port it. Production and Publishing doesn't mean they were responsible for the port. It's Capcom's fault for lying about the input lag and choosing a substandard development team to port the game.
@DragonKnight Wtf are you talking about, producing and publishing something does exactly mean that you are responsible for it, period. Yes, Capcom had its share of blame, but lets not pretend Sony didn't have anything to do with it when they were completely in charge of the PS4 port, they were the ones that outsourced the project to Other Ocean.
USFIV and UMvC3 are the only major fighters that have to be ran on 360 because the PS3 versions are inferior. (PS4 version of USFIV is now on par with 360 after the 2nd patch) Majority of competitive fighting games are still ran on Sony hardware. P4AU is ran on PS3, TTT2 is ran on PS3, UNIEL is ran on PS3, MKX is ran on PS4, GGXrd is ran on PS3, and I'm sure the smaller communities such as Skullgirls run on PS3 as well. In short, nothing is changing. Sony has always been home for fighting games.
@Artemus - Sure, the port was a bad choice on Sony's end, but they're only half to blame for it. Capcom take the other half. They didn't bother making the definitive edition of their main fighting franchise in house, like they should have. If Capcom had actually cared enough to do it themselves, we wouldn't have had port issues.
Actually there's a very specific reason it's on the 360, as it has been for years, and it only came down to timing. Please don't be that guy.
That is exactly what they did with JRPGs.
If they want to dominate the genre then they're going to need something like Smash. The difference between these fighters and Smash, is accessibility. Smash gets more sales and more players at tournaments because the game is easy to pick up and play. While Street Fighter and games alike are fantastic titles, it's nice to have more accessible titles like Smash to draw people into the genre.
If this is true, then they should revive Bloody Roar. That fighting game series was great on PS1.
I don't think they will be taken seriously as a true fighting platform until they have a new Clay Fighter and Rise of the Robots commissioned. /s
Pah, they are nothing. I demand a HD remake of the atari jaguar classic Kasumi Ninja. Then and only then is it serious.
Being a fan of fighting games I cannot be happier. Now please give us snk vsg capcom 3. Pleaaaaaase ! I miss a good rival schools as well. That series is fire ! Next is maybe Tekken vs SF. A Tekken announcement is planned for the coming days. *fingers crossed*
Announcement is supposed to be T7 related. Personally, all I want from Namco is TTT2 remaster for current gen. That's the only game I'm using my PS3 for at this moment.
SNK vs Capcom would be cool. I trust SNK wouldn't dumb their game down. Capcom on the other hand tries to appeal to everyone in their fighters as of late. Even in SFV they are doing lame things like removing close normals and taking away "complicated" motions such as 360 and 720 motions. Always slightly worried when it comes to Capcom these days. Not to say CvS3 wouldn't be a good game, I just think a new SvC would align more with what I want from a fighter.
Being honest, PS4 was likely to be the home of fighters regardless of this exclusive deal but ultimately this exclusive deal will benefit SF fans.
How does this deal benefit SF fans? This is the same as Tomb Raider, it neither benefits the game nor the fans. I don't quite understand how this makes PS the home of fighters either.
Everybody who buys SF5 will be able to play together. That benefits fans as it keeps the community together. It just doesn't benefit Xbox fans.
@aiBreeze: cross platform play is not difficult this generation. They could easily allow it.
It's a no brainer than having access to cross play with PC is going to benefits SF fans imo . It's a pity that it's not multi and cross play everywhere , but every concerned parties had a chance to chimes in at some point
@LightofDarkness: Cross-platform by itself is not difficult, cross-platform between Xbox and PS4 is not going to happen. Ever.
Last gen most most matches were played on the 360 due to less input lag etc. With SF going exclusive to sony there will probably be a few pissed of people. I do think the fighting game community will try to stick to one platform. With killer instinct on the xb1 and their proven support of these (fighting) game tournaments I honestly didn't expected SF to be sony exclusive.
I honestly didn't expect SF to be exclusive but Killer Instinct aside, most other fighters preferred platform is the PS. I think MK has a better following on Xbox but even then, PS4 is the platform of choice for offline events.
Pretty much only SF4 had an impact favoring the 360 on the tournament and online scenes . Ultimate Marvel took a long time to switch to 360 for tournaments because again of tech issues . Many fighting games were japanese centric and "anime" styled game that found a bigger home on ps consoles . And then there is Killer Instinct on XB1 , wich is still relatively new , and following by a fanbase , but not that wildly popular .
@aiBreeze I see your point as I do believe that mortal combat will be played on the ps4 on the next evo. However ultra street fighter and marvel vs capcom will still be on the x360 if I remember correctly. edit:Other fighting games at evo 2015 on ps3 are guilty gear x and persona 4. http://evo.shoryuken.com/ad...
Not sure where you get your data, but last generation most fighter games were played on PS3 for competition. EVO was pretty much PS3 centric.
@ cristopher Mostly from watching streams from competitions. To be fair I am not really familiar with fighting games such as guilty gear x and persona 4. But thats what I learned after looking up what gonna be on evo 2015 (see official link in my other comment). If there is information or data available saying otherwise feel free to point me towards always happy to learn new things
This deal doesn't benefit SF fans it only benefits Sony fans. Being a SF fan doesn't mean you own a ps4 so saying it's good for the community is BS cause part of the community that bought a X1 is cut off so how does it benefit the community? And i'm saying this as a ps4 and wii u owner i don't even own an x1 and only have 1 friend and 2 nephews who have one but let's be honest the only who benefits from this is Sony not the fans of the series And ofcourse the fanboys start disagreeing instead of bringing up a valid reason and explain how the community benefits from this
Having everything centred around a single platform is of great benefit to the community, especially seeing how Capcom are pushing the competitive side of things. Just look at MK, official online events are on X1 while offline events are on PS4, for those competing in that game, it has to be an unnecessary headache. Also thinking long term, everyone being able to play each other is going to be great three years down the line instead of having a split userbase like on SF4. This doesn't just benefit Sony fans but the FGC as a whole. I see what you're saying and it kind of does suck for those who just want to own an Xbox One but as someone with no console loyalties but a huge fan of SF and everything FGC related, the benefits of this deal far outweigh the negatives. If cross platform was available between X1 and PS4 and peripherals like fight sticks were compatible with both consoles, then yeah there would be little benefits to this deal however as things stand now, for SF fans, this exclusive deal benefits them.
For one, most fighting game fans buy PlayStation consoles. This is more or less an established fact, based on how sales of every multiplat fighting game are better on PlayStation. For another, being able to play cross-platform benefits the fans; that's happening because of Sony. Indeed, Microsoft has been pretty adamant about NOT allowing cross-platform outside of a few examples. Lastly, it benefits Street Fighter fans because the game is actually being made now, as opposed to being many years down the road. If you can't see how that's good for SF fans...
Everyone seems to forget that Sony is partially funding SF5, in other words: no Sony exclusivity = no SF5. So of course Sony's deal with Capcom benefits SF fans.
the first real next gen fighting gane which will be the first to earn my full $60 just like Bloodborne did. Now I need to see Tekken
Wow, didn't Capcom just state that they wanted to steadily develop games for the PS4? As time goes by it seems like Capcom is hopping on board more and more with Sony just like a lot of the 3rd parties are. I can definitely sense more PS4 exclusives from Capcom in the foreseeable future.
Maybe RE 7 will be a PS4 exclusive?
Maybe. I was actually thinking more along the lines of a new Clock Tower/Haunting Ground game or a new Maximo. I doubt those are coming back but I'd love to see 1 of those franchises revived. 1 can dream right? lol
@triplec Oh man, a new Clock Tower / Haunting Ground / Maximo would be FUCKING awesome. Capcom pls.
Not just that. I tried SFV today, and the is quite solid. I was kind of septic before, but damn, I was definitely wrong to be so.
I'love Street Fighter...
I'll pick up the Definitive Edition on PC.
More like the cheaters infested edition......
That play against PS4 players with cross play
With the way PC ports have been handled lately, I wouldn't be so quick to call it the Definitive Edition. Currently, the definitive edition of Batman Arkham Knight is on PS4.
Yeah cause Sony FUNDING the project totally means the PC version will totally be the definitive edition not the Sony owned platform....Sorry Sony doesn't come along and buy exclusivity 3 quarters of the way through a games development
Wasn't PS1/PS2/PS3 home of fighters too?
No. Sony's dpad ruined fighting games. Dreamcast was the last dedicated fighting game console. Soul Calibur, Street Fighter 3, DOA2, King of Fighters, Power Stones 1&2, Marvel versus Capcom 1&2, Capcom versus SNK, Virtua Fighter 3tb, Ready to Rumble 2, Mortal Kombat Gold, MK4, ... Then the ultimate fighter jrpg SHENMUE. It was a great 3 years with Dreamcast.
"No. Sony's dpad ruined fighting games." https://pbs.twimg.com/profi...
Try playing SF2 on a PSP and see how you like that dpad? It's on all sony's controllers. Sega made the best dpads ever. I wish they'd make 6 button controllers for Xbox/PS4 now. That would be a dream.
So the article is about a console, you bring up a console, then you mention a handheld as an example of how EVERY d pad is bad? I mean, I guess I shouldn't be surprised, but somehow I am, anyway. Really, though. Weren't half those games on PS2, anyway? And weren't there dozens of fighters on PS2 not found on Dreamcast, such as the Arcana Heart series? And didn't the PS2's ability to play all the PS1 fighters make it that much MORE the fighting game console over the Dreamcast?
Am I the only person who mods? PSP was an example because of it's emulation. A lot of people used it for SNES and Genesis games. Until they realized the Dpad was junk. Which is the same craptacular pad they use in all Duel S. named controllers because people have adapted to analog. I can't do analog in fighters. When modding for other people I usually set them up with a USB Genesis/Saturn pad. Sony's are dead last to bother with...well last with those nasty Xbox pads...the newer ones with the turning piece are much better than the original pack ins.
Did you know current SF4 EVO champ Luffy plays on a PS1 pad? I'm not saying Sony's dpad is the best, but certainly is not as bad as you make it sound. Also, the Dreamcast was indeed a great fighting game console, but I'm sorry its dpad was garbage.
Wow, Luffy would destroy way harder with a good pad. It would be like running in water for years and then running out of the water and blasting past everyone. He'd be even better
@Billy, The PSP d-pad was a bit of a mess...that is if the game wasn't made to take heed to its setup. Fighting games that actually used it properly (Blazblue and Tekken for example) actually did very well. Now the PSP D-pad is not at all indicative of what the console or PS Vita D-pads are like. Those are solid for fighters. Let's not forget Nintendo consoles; they make phenomenal d-pads. The Wii remote, classic controller, Wii U Gamepad and Wii U Pro controller all have great D-pads.
I thought the saturn / neo geo were in the earlier days?
sony in good terms with capcom. i just hope monster hunter comes to psvita
What is hard to grasp, Nintendo has a deal with Capcom on Monster Hunter.....They are pretty much exclusive to Nintendo platforms
while this is smart for sony, those who lose out are the fans. To try to dominate an entire genre is basically making a mini monopoly. That said, while street fighter is a staple of the genre, i doubt we'll see most other fighting games follow suite. (Tekken, DOA, SC, etc).
It's not like they can force MS not to release any fighting games, they're simply focussing attention on the genre and going for exclusive deals on certain titles.
SONY....BRING BACK UMVC AND MAKE SURE HSIEN KO IS IN IT........I'LL PAY TRIPLE YOUR ASKING PRICE DAMNIT..........ASSIMILATE!!!! !! Also I'd me more than happy with a darkstalkers reboot...
Capcom's next fighter will most likely be CvS3 or Darkstalkers. Maybe MvC4 in a few years.
A what the hell does Sony have to do with Marvel vs Capcom......Besides nothing... AND B Disney took back ALL of their game rights from EVERY publisher so Capcom can't make anything they don't have a license to use, they also cannot even patch UMvC 3 without getting Disney's permission....
Nope, my PC with both SFV and KI next year will be the ultimate system for fighters.
You enjoy that second class port of SFV, Sony didn't fund development of the game to get a second rate port so PS4 version will be getting all the attention.. And yeah LMAO you enjoy that KI port, done by the same people who did the Arkham Knight port...
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