A long time PC Gamer starts to wonder if PC Gaming is best for him moving forward.
It can be love hate I can vouch for that but I cant be without a PC.
Agreed. But it's mostly a love thing for me. All platforms have issues occasionally, but PC tends to give me a lot more options and ways around the issues when they do occur.
I never doubted that.. PC is the ultimate machine for everything! It gives me many choices and options, with time sadly even on PC my powers are taken away, next gen programmers and designers tend to hide everything away and make it more simple.. its very welcome in consoles since they are made to be simple and fast, mostly for gaming.. gaming was never that simple.. press a button and all updates and everything just pops up automatically, just set up your preferences, controls and go.. best part I like about consoles is that there is less, bugs and crashes and it looks same for everyone.. still PC is what makes games in the end!
the pc offers so much versatility. a lot of games now don't require a keyboard and mouse and steam big picture mode is to attract those gamers who are uncomfortable with pc gaming. people often view the cost of the pc as what holds them back but the pc can do more than just gaming. you can turn it into a complete media machine and a workstation. other than it's plug play advantage on consoles it's mainly the marketing that trumps the pc. they spend a lot of money marketing console games and the hardware.
i prefer consoles but honestly if i had the funds for a more powerful PC i would play on pc more. Even with that said if I had to choose one it would be console because of familiarity, comfortability and all of my friends are on consoles.
I am sure that most people who view this firum have some sort of PC so it would be very difficult to disagree with what you said. @SolidStoner The PC and by that I assume you mean X86 with a Microsoft Windows Operating System maybe the ultimate machine for everything for you but there are other architectures and operating systems out there that are every bit as good and subjectively even better. I personally run on an X86_64 platform with Fedora 22 (Linux) and it does everything I want and if I really want (which I don't) it can play "Games for Windows" as well. If you are into "Games for Windows" then X86 MS Windows is definitely for you. I definitely agree with your statement about consoles since it is rare although it does happen that you have issues with a game and if there are it usually gets patched fairly quickly.
When you get to mod, it's the best thing ever.
yup, PC gaming can be great but when you get driver issues, gfx card issues and sloppy ports, hell even controller issues with a certain game, it makes me regret buying a 970
I love my 970, regardless of the whole 3.5GB/.5GB scandal it runs amazing for its cost.
Man I love my pc but sometimes I have been known to have thoughts about throwing it through a window :-p
I've been gaming on PC for about 19 years and I've never had this thought :)
I am kind of in the same boat. I mean there are certain things I will always play on PC but if there is a legitimate choice between platforms I find myself going for the console version. Must be a getting old thing.
I understand that.. sad for those who dosn't.. time is most precious thing in our lives.. consoles really saves your time, and makes gaming experience less frustrating and simple.. you can simply turn on play and turn off.. yes you have less options, and yes graphics change depending on your system, but I made my point! ;)
turn PC on -> start game -> play I don't think you save any time by using a console (depending on your PC that is, mine boots in 8 seconds and loading times are much faster compared to consoles [when inside a game]). Maybe I just don't get your point but I haven't read the article, so that might be a reason.
@Tiqila i think his point was the various issues you can get with a PC that wastes time, optimizing a game because it had a sloppy port, look at devil may cry 3 for PC for a great example
When your old console dies, and the new-gen console doesn't have backwards compatibility, you lose all your old but lovely games. For PC, your old games will always be there.
@silvacrest Yes, because it's the PC's fault, let's not blame it on the developers who outsource their porting project to third party companies. They're not the reason at all for wasting his time.
I am currently writing this reply on my gaming laptop from my hotel room. Minimize the browser I'm using now and there's my Steam Library with all the 101 games waiting to be clicked. I don't see what's so hard about PC gaming. As for the times wasted due to unoptimized games the answer is simple and easy - Don't pre-order or buy upon launch. Wait a little while longer, play other games in the meantime or buy during Sales. I bought most of my AAA titles during sales not just because of the lower price but due to the fact that they would be heavily patched up by then. If you can't wait then go ahead pre-order away but get ready for any troubles that may crop up.
Yes, I have spent many precious years of my life tweaking graphics settings. Oh wait no I haven't.
'The thrifty accountant inside me is getting louder and louder and as much as my inner tech head wants the latest and greatest I just can’t justify it anymore.' If you're thrifty then a PC is the way to go end of. During the Steam Sale I picked up Sleeping dogs- my GPU is by no means a beast its as middle of the road as the come and yet I'm still running this game at 1080p 60fps oh and I only paid 7 bucks for it. If I wanted this game for the PS4 it would be 25 bucks at 30 fps. This adds up over time 20 bucks saved here 20 there, not paying that yearly fee for PS Plus an XBL. While I do have a PS4 its reserved only for the odd sports game and exclusives. Botched ports come and go (eventually they get fixed though). I'm stealing this quote I saw on the boards on IGN: Low Fps on pc = pull the game from the shelves. Low Fps on console = Cinematic experience.
Consoles is better for the wallet though for the latest and greatest if you know how to deal search. You buy the game and you resell it after you finish. You may end up with more money sometimes too. Now being exactly thrifty and you want to play the older games you can "wheel and deal" also. You play it and resell it too. $25 for Sleep Dogs is probably at Gamestop. If that's one of the only ways you know how to shop for games then you're not gonna be good at reselling.
I'm pretty sure you can deal search for PC games too. I actually found a decent deal for online play- I don't pay its free. Maybe you could do better though =p
It baffles me to see the same old story repeated that 'deals' are a PC thing.
If console gaming is so great for your wallet how come Arkham Knight on PC was being offered for 40% off BEFORE LAUNCH? Regardless of the PC port's issues you can't deny that 40% is WAY better than paying the full $60 day one on console.
@thehobbyist You're so right, and where I live (Canada) developers are charging anywhere from 75-80 dollars now when conversion puts it at UNDER 75! It's a f****** ripoff with tax, I'm not paying 84 dollars for a game, so I decided at launch of this generation to go all digital on console. Found I could actually upgrade to a 2TB for less than the tax, and I still can't let go of my PS3 games so resale value is meaningless to be. Then my buddy got me into PC. I hardly pay over 50 for AAA games.
Pretty sure he was talking about hardware considering he used the words Tech Head...
Okay then. But the commenter above me is talking about how somehow the 'latest and greatest' are cheaper on consoles. If you really believe that okay...
It really is just a horses for courses argument. I am more a console guy but have plenty of friends that are all about the PC. Whatever fits the bill... it is all games man
I can see the author's points but even still PC is my platform of choice. I guess I can just ignore the little problems that pop up now and then.
Happy I made the move most games now support a controller when the keyboard hand goes numb , I have had issues but manage to solve them never thought I would move away from console so much .
Yay, N4G is online again
I was wondering what was going on. I think it's odd they didn't address it on their website. "Down for maintenance" or "we are experiencing technical difficulties."
The Cloudfare Site I get now everytime I visit the site made me think they had a DDOS Problem maybe, but yeah was weird they did not mention the problem anywhere, site was down for almost 2 days for me
I have a Playstation 4 and a PC. I love how simple and easy everything is on my consoles. But after playing a PC game running in smooth 60fps and with graphical effects turned on. It's a little painful to play a PS4 game. I'm thinking about either building a new or re-build my PC to become a livingroom friendly PC. With new Steam controller coming soon we can play all PC games with it. And the new Xbox One Elite controller also looks so sweet. And it don't have the be that expensive to triumph the PS4 and double the framerate. And believe me...the bigger the screen the more pleasant on the eyes it becomes. Personally I have never had less problems gaming on PC. I remember back in the days with all kinds of problems. Today almost every game just works.. And if not it's the developer that have messed up and a patch comes. Just as on consoles. I've actually used more time waiting for things to work on PS4 then on my PC. But that's because Playstation Network is a disaster with slow download speeds. And downtime.
And here I still have a PS3
Nothing to be ashamed of :) I think most gamers (I don't count fanboys as gamers) can agree that one should buy the platform that fits their needs and wants. My friends dad still plays on his ancient brick of a PC and the PS2 he bought for his son a good decade ago. _LarZen_ I'm there with you, getting Steam link for my living room, but do you know if there's any way to upscale the print? I'm finding I have to squint a ton to see it on certain games.
Can any of you guys access the normal site (n4g.com)? I have not been able to for 24 hours. I can access the mobile site (which I am on now).
Pc is where everything start so my choice it's Pc, but I like consoles as well especially with friends in Saturday night, In the end is always about games. Peace.
When I started building and gaming on PC, it was fun and exciting learning all that. But eventually it got to be a chore upgrading and maintaining it and there are other things I'd rather do with my time. Never thought I'd be a console gamer, but now I appreciate the simplicity of consoles.
How much time do you actually spend on "upgrading and maintaining" a PC? My PC is more than 5 years old, the only upgrade I made was the graphics card in the end of last year (to be able to play in 3D with high settings, or else I could've kept my old GPU for even longer).
Too much time. I just had to put a new gpu in. Added an extra hard drive and Had to reinstall Windows twice. Before that upgraded the CPU/ mobo case bc they were old. But its not just my pc its the others in my family I have to maintain. One of them is good at amassing malware. So I spend way more time fixing PC issues than I want
"Too much time"... Did you really just say that and follow up with installing a graphics card and hard drive??? Ummm, those literally slot right in take take maybe 45 seconds to do BOTH at the same time. Upgrading is an option, not a requirement. My PC is more powerful than current consoles, and will be for their entire lifecycle. Therefore, won't upgrade for 7+ years unless I just feel like it. Not too large of a time commitment, certainly less of a time commitment than standing in line for days trying to get a new console day 1 if that's your thing. Malware = too much porn.
I actually upgrade my PC every 7 to 10 months to the latest version of the OS and it normally only takes me about an hour. Personally I don't run a Microsoft Operating System since I only run Fedora (22 is the latest) which has a Linux kernel. I normally update every week and that normally takes less then 5 minutes and while the update is running I can do other things. If I do get an update to the Linux kernel or some critical part of the OS I only need a reboot at my convenience and a reboot on my PC takes approximately 90 seconds (I don't have an SSD) and that includes logging in again and starting the applications I use. Personally I was never a PC gamer even when I had a Microsoft OS (over seven years ago) I have always preferred the simplicity of consoles and IMHO displaying on a large HDTV is much better than a small monitor although to be fair you can get large monitors but if you get them too large (this is subjective) you can find them uncomfortable to use for gaming.
It's kind of like people who like to tinker with cars and turn them into hot rods to show off to their friends. But there are some people who want a pre-built hot rod because they have no interest in tinkering or perhaps the know how. I love tech stuff, so the ability to open up my PC and make it better adds another layer to the fun of gaming. For consoles, it's just gaming, nothing else to do..
I have worked on computers that would make the latest PC look like a hand calculator, however for home use you still can't beat the X86 architecture PC since they are relatively cheap and can easily be built (sort of like Lego) although you do have to have some smarts to do this. Hardware or software present no difficulty to me, however when I want to game for relaxation and enjoyment I still prefer consoles, a game-pad, a large screen HDTV as well as a comfortable sofa and some finger snacks. This is not to say you can't do something similar with a PC, however a console is more living room friendly, although that line is now blurring with the advent of X86_64 consoles.
I think this sums up the Batman PC version debacle.
I love my PC, spent a crazy amount of money on it to be able to play games like Witcher 3, GTA V and Arkham Knight with everything maxed, but I don't consider myself master race at all. I actually feel sorry for those that wont play a game unless its 60+ fps or missing a FOV slider or doesn't have AA because they are just missing out on great games. I love my consoles too and do quite a bit of gaming on them, I wouldn't feel comfortable calling myself a gamer if I wasn't able to form my own opinions about games like Halo, Uncharted, Killzone, Fable, Gears, Bloodborne etc.
I've always had a gaming pc and i've always had many consoles... Lack of time is upon me and it's more restrictive than anything else. So no hate and no pain only love and fun and i hate the master race crap.
With all the sh***ty PC ports they make I think PC gaming is a step backwards...UNFORTUNATELY
You make it sound like crappy ports are the norm. Far from it. If it was the norm, PC gamers wouldn't rise up and demand a better Batman.
Remember, there is a difference between a bad port and a port missing its mark for expectations. Most port complaints by PC gamers are how the devs neglect PC centric features (i.e. resolutions, controls, gfx settings, modability, etc.) Unfortunately, sometimes games get neglected on their optimization, resulting in a bad port. This is NOT exclusive to PC gaming. For an example, just look up the Skyrim release on the PS3. Now, I do believe that consoles see less problems than PC games due to their streamlined technology. But most any PC gamer who has been gaming for 10-20 years can vouge that PC hardware/software conflicts are extremely mild in comparison to the past. I like gaming and I choose the PC as my weapon of choice. But I do understand that I miss out on some awesome exclusives and a relatively "safer" day one purchase of games. Batman will be fixed, just like most all the other bad ports. This does not make PC a step backwards. It's just a tragic mishap by a lazy porting team. No more, no less. :)
Its a money/tech savvy thing.
My PC never makes me angry. Only publishers who don't take the time to make their PC ports work make me angry.
For me, I was a console gamer since the nintendo days, but I decided to become a PC gamer. Turns out that today's PCs have become more user friendly plus playing games on it, is not as difficult as in the past. Yes there are bad third party ports. Yes, the gamer may end up in forums looking how to fix a game. Yes , maintaining a gaming PC is a drain or fiddling with the hardware is complex as hell. The pros it offers trumps any console out there from backwards compatibility, free online, major discounts for games, discounts for dlc also, able to play in front of your tv with gamepad on hand. Is glorious, the fact that nodding extends the life of a game is marvelous. There's console gaming experiences on PC from Enemy Mind, Blue Flamingo, YS franchise, Super Panda Adventures, Cave Story, Monstroum, etc. Almost forgot evoland. My point is shmups, platformers, retro JRPGS, survival horror, and the occasional retro arcade racer can be found on PC renedering consoles useless.
I started gaming on PC long time ago but i did not know what i was doing lol then there was PSOne and Dreamcast its was so simple, easy and it was amazing for that time i totally forgot about my PC, then PC started to ramp up but PS2 happened and i was going in between the two then PC really separated it self more and more and i went to PC again (financial decision, consoles become to damn expensive to have both platforms for me) and never looked back, PC has always been on the rise and i've learned so much from PC not just gaming and PC can be amazing if you know what you want and desire... you have full control yet so little time. I am a gamer and i'm not alone :]
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