The PlayStation 5 is years away, but does that mean Sony hasn't started working on it? Will it showcase graphic muscules or essentially be a set-top box?
If it's not a box I will not support it, take note Sony. You payed attention to Shenmue 3 and FF7, so now listen too. I will not support a streaming app.
It may not be for you, but Samsung TVs are happy to stream PS3 games with PSNow. Along with other devices that doesn't require the box like my cellphone.
They said before the PS4 even launched that the future of console gaming was all-digital, if not streaming. Considering the strides they have taken in that direction (PSNow), it really wouldn't surprise me at all. If that's the future they foresee, and they're seeing success now as their vision unfolds, I see no reason to expect them to deviate from that path, regardless of whether I think they ought to.
It's an inevitable direction that all media is taking. Doesn't mean it's near enough to be viable by the time the PS5 is ready to come out. In fact, considering how well the PS4 is doing worldwide, and how far behind most of the world is as it pertains to internet- I think I heard it was illegal for private citizens to even HAVE internet in Cuba, for example- I don't know how anyone could come to the conclusion you did.
Sony knows that the broadband infrastructure isn't all that great, to support a streaming only service. PS5 maybe digital.., but it is unlikely that it'll be streaming only. Especially since large parts of North America, Eastern Europe, Asia (India) have poor broadband penetration and bandwidth. If they are talking about 4k on PS5, streaming only - would be extremely bandwidth intensive. Personally, I don't mind digital distribution.., but i prefer to have a physical media option as well.
Pretty sure consoles are not going anywhere. As far as the technology inside the box i think it will be a hybrid.
It will be quite some time before streaming catches up with the tech. Bit when it does, Sony will be primed to do that. You won't have to shell out $500 for a console, just pay monthly for a streaming app that allows you to play anything you want. Also, as phones and tablets catch up, alot will be available on mobile devices to.
Unless the worlds internet gets better in the next five years which I highly doubt, a digital only future would have a big impact on the industry as a whole an send sales potentially crashing. It's one thing downloading or streaming a 13mb song or 600mb film but when it's a 50 gb (maybe even double by next gen), it's a whole different story. Not to mention nether PSN or XBL are still not stable enough to withstand a digital only future yet with the amount of down time and errors and ddosing that happened over the past year resulting in most games not being able to be played.
Watch out Sony, mikeslemonade is going to personally demolish your bottom line by not buying your console if it is a streaming device. He said listen so you better... Also digital only would seriously effect companies like GameStop, Amazon, best buy etc. it wouldn't destroy the latter two by any means but would seriously cripple GameStop. And they know it is coming, that's why legacy consoles are now sold by them. As a sort of buffer to growing digital.
It will be both. It will have ps now on day one and it will probably be a lot more powerful than the ps4.
If it's a streaming box then I'm not buying it.
Yeah, I mean where are they streaming from... what device is playing the actual game? I want that device(probably PC)!
"If it's a streaming box then I'm not buying it" and "If it's not a box I will not support it" and "if it's streaming we are all doomed" and "I don't think the worlds infrastructure will improve enough over" and "Streaming? No" From the sounds of it, it won't be a streaming only box for sooooo many reasons. One powerful reason is based on gamers alone, it can only work if gamers actually want it. Gamers control the market, I don't care what anyone says on here, one can't be as naive as to think one thing will happen, yet not factor in what gamer's think as Gamers made it clear the Wii era was over with Wii U, Gamer's made it clear they would not buy a system that was online only with XONE. Its not up to Sony as it wasn't up to Nintendo, MS etc Its 100% up to gamers. Same with VR. Its like saying "will PS5 be VR only" I don't know...will gamers buy Morpheus in the deep, deep millions ie 60 million? Even so.......does that even mean they will ONLY go VR only? That doesn't prove that, merely that folks are ok with buying VR as an option, soooo would PS Now...an option, be ONLY streaming in terms of the only method on PS5? It sounds like going backwards to me in terms of distribution types as your getting less not more.. http://www.digitaltrends.co... and Sony is currently working on a new media format, they clearly have plans for still using physical media as a distribution method as you don't become a world wide leader in console sales buy having a infrastructure that only a few countries can even use.... It needs to work with the whole WORLD day 1, its that simple. http://microsoft-news.com/s... and "many countries that we saw do not really have robust Internet" Soooo Sony sells well WORLD WIDE, clearly...they need a system that represents that, its why they have the fastest selling console in history right now. The majority can't, the ones that can also don't want it lol. I see no reason to do Streaming only, digital only, physical only etc. We will have all and I see no reason why not to have all methods as it just makes no sense not to. http://www.ign.com/articles... So before we jump and say "But PS Now" or "But PSN digital day 1"....yes sure...but Bluray, but world wide lacking internet, but Sony working on another media format, but Sony selling PS4 faster then PS2, but XBOX ONE'S REVEAL! Gamer's let it be known pretty loud that they didn't want what MS was offering in terms of online only...ironically on the internet, the very thing needed to run an XONE. It speaks volumes for gamers to state ONLINE they don't want an ONLINE only system. That is as solid as it gets to gamer's voicing what they actually want. If someone who has internet all the time, doesn't want that, say hello to the rest of the world. They want to make money, making money means getting money from EVERYONE, not just those with internet, that is to go backwards and makes no sense at all.
It will continue to be a combination of both with more focus on hardware. People still like buying their retail games and until internet speeds and access is vastly improved globally and digital sales overtake retail then there will always be disc based games. They will push for more digital features and content and streaming, but retail games and physical media will still be there. Hardware wise just look at AMDs current top specs and there's your PS5. There will be some adjustments since the PS5 is another 4 - 5 years away but an FX 8320+ is more than likely the CPU (+ better single core performance, lower TDP), a R9 Fury X+ (aka R9 780 / 880 in 2020, lower TDP, more features, improved performance, 9 TFLOPS). Overall a near 10TFLOP console. FX 8350 R9 Fury X 8GB DDR4 8GB
God, if it's streaming we are all doomed. Internet infrastructure still is not anywhere close to what it needs to be to stream games. At least not games that would be higher quality then what's on ps4 right now.
Even if the infrastructure was there I wouldn't want it.
What if future consoles came with a DVD/blu-Ray tray but after you purchased the game digitally you had the option to burn the game to a blank blu-Ray using the ps5?
The possibilities listed here are not mutually exclusive. Why not both?
In this generation I saw Microsoft introduce a TV box and called it the next Xbox. If Sony manages to screw up their focus and lose sight of the games,they will not be prepared for the gen after this
I don't think the worlds infrastructure will improve enough over the next 5-6 years to handle this honestly. Sure some will have no problems but on a worldwide scale it likely wouldn't even be close to 50% of the current gaming population.
Streaming? No.. Hardware behemoth? Compared to today's consoles...yes. As compared to the technology that is available during whatever year they launch it? We'll see.
The main thing is the next system needs to support smooth 4K playback, whether it's locally on media or streamed. The streamed idea has pros and cons. On the upside it would be nice to be able to play my library of games without swapping discs, or worrying about discs scratching. BUT, a streaming box would have all the disadvantages of no offline, no playing if the network is down (cough PSN cough), and no trade-in or reselling of games. There's also the bandwidth requirement, which wouldn't be an issue for everyone but would be a problem for some. I could also see the hybrid idea, so at least some games could be stored locally for offline play. Either way with the 4K requirement, and them not wanting to upset 20M+ customers who relatively recently invested in a PS4, I think we're a good 3+ years away from PS5 at a minimum.
It will b like its predecessor: Full of hype and nothing else.
It wouldn't be a streaming box.... It would just be an app on your tv if there going that route like they've already have. Anytime they can just say "now all new games can be streamed on now". And you guys basically have what everyone thinks. Me bet is they only do that once console sales plundge Or have an option between the app on your already bought TV or forking 500 dollars for a physical console
"I sure hope not" - Everyone in rural america rocking 3Mbps in 2015. Thanks to DSL and no competition.
So People will choose XONE over PS4 just because they can play X360 games?!!!!!!!!!!! What a logic! I really dont understand why some people tend to exaggerate about the backward compatibility I my self do not have enough time for new games let alone the games which I've played years ago and Im damn sure a high percentage of gamers are like me. Its was never the wining factor in console war
Oh god it won't be a solely streaming box. Sony can't rely on consumers to always have connection to the internet at the correct speed just for their console to operate properly. The tradipmal method will always be the most successful method.
Just keep it the way it is with gaming. I want my phisical disc to put in a playstation. No stream or digital only or what ever they want. Just keep it like it is plane and simple. And if it goes digital only then i quit gaming.
Yeah, true. Times change fast though. Remember CDs and all those guys that swore by their walkmans when the first MP3 players came out?
It better be a monster because you know Microsoft is going to be bringing the big guns next gen. Microsoft won't make the same mistake twice I promise you that
Yeah, I think they have had their fill of hard headed mistakes now. and the new CEO means business. He also recognizes the importance of xbox as a vehicle THE platform for W10 in the living room. A PC and tablet cannot quite fill that role. traditionally xboxs have been the more powerful console. The OG Xbox had a bigger power advantage than any console in any generation, and X360s GPU was better than PS3s. These are facts. XB1 was the 'profit from day one' console. They went a little too low with the specs though, for sure. Next time round I expect a powerhouse console fitting of a company that spends more on R&D than the other two. One things for sure, MS have no interset in building a game streaming box, which suggests fixed hardware consoles are still in their future. But expect to see all the investment in the box this time. The days of forcing kinect are over. They may still develop it. Its a great piece of tech that will suppliment AR and VR on both PC and Xbox as a gesture based device. Its PERFECT for that, along with voice commands. I expect the nextbox to be even more of a PC in the living room, with deep windows integration from day one, possibly steam, hololens will probably in its second iteration by then, and matured as a platform. Kinect will probably on V3 and will remain optional.support for Occulus and valve VR, deeper cross play experiences. Cloud compute for physics and AI will be a thing....we all like to rib MS for that stuff now, but everything they are doing on XB1 with it is groundwork for what they do with this kind of tech next gen.
It wont be. Im pretty sure one of those Sony guys (Andrew?) confirmed that at LEAST the next console is still going to be local hardware. I wont bother with digging out the source for that statement but full on stream box would be way too early considering peoples internet speeds and availability. Hell I think even digital only would be too soon for the next gen.
Well it probably won't be the latter given that the ps4 isn't exactly a hardware behemoth and it's the highest spec'd console.
PSNow is the future of playstation. it already has low latency according to those that have used it on, n4g. but visual quality suffers. Im sure as tech improves that will be less of an issue, allowing a streamed game to be playable without a compression in image quality. Its intended for non PS devices like TVs and tablets..and PCs, and puts PS games into more gamers hands, without the need for the cost of a box. Thats a good thing. Its interesting seeing how this gen sets up things for the next one...sony going the streaming route, and MS unifying windows and making an xbox, that will eventually be the xbox, the steam box, and a TV/media hub that hosts windows 10 in the living room. Two very different futures lie ahead for these companies. One is OS lead(W10)...the other is streaming lead(PSNow).
I dont think next gen will be streaming, that mean it will work great in some countries and believe me their sales will suck think how the witcher 3 will preform if the game being streamed it will need a huge amount of data that need to be transferring from the server to the player and it will suck really bad what will happen if many people are playing the same game how servers will deal with them WE ARE NOT READY TO GO FULL STREAMING
I dunno, maybe we are. I have heard people on here say PSNow latency is descent considering they themselves dont have a good connection, so, obviously it works right now. When sony puts PS4 games on PSNow they will probably sell more PSNow accounts than they do PSN accounts. Which will have HUGE ramifications what the PS5 will be. It might not be a physical console.
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