In light of new lows for the Xbox One in Japan, GGG asks whether Microsoft should keep trying to win Japanese fans over or just pull out of the region.
I really don't know why they bother but hey, kudos to them for trying...or appearing to try. I dunno. I just want some good jrpgs on x1.
I hope we get some good rpgs from mistwalker. Sakaguchi confirmed in an interview with Siliconera that he is open to working with MS again on a sequel...according to him it's all up to MS. http://www.siliconera.com/2...
Then MS better open their wallets!
They should just give up there or do ship-to-order.
Japan, Asia and Middle East are some of the reasons why Xbox will NEVER be World Champion.
Its all about presence, and forget about profit.
That's it. B/c they will buy a console just for a game. PS4 isn't doing great either, though that will change with Persona 5, FF15, and FF7 remake.
No console is doing great in Japan, at least not by 2000s standards thanks to mobile hitting them like a giant tsunami sweeping everything with it. As for the Xbox there its now all about presence (as Magicite above already mentioned)and not giving up. If anyone can compromise like that i.e. bleed money its MS.
Its good for them to try and the longer they are an option over there the more relevant they will become and will eventually become more popular and will build a fan base.
* If XB1 had Dragon Quest, it would sell.
I dunno, maybe cause competition is good for the industry?
MS has lost Japan. There is no competition there.
The Wii U competes more with the PS4 than the X1 does on Japan.
They sold 100 consoles in the past week compared to the thousands for everything else. That's not competition, that's a curb-stomping.
Ms should just pull out they don't need japan anyway.
Disagree 100%, a lot of great games come out of Japan. MS should invest a lot more time in getting studios from japan to make games for their system.
Unless they intend to buy sega and rebrand the xbox as a sega, in japan, I dont see the point. They only need japanese games to sell to the west, not japanese games to sell to japan. Its a HUGE waste of tehir money. They could be killing it in the west if they didnt waste so much time there. And given that japanese AAA dev success hinges on western audiences these days, you'd think they would play their hand better. But I think scalebound and recore are the right steps in the direction I was thinking about. Just hire famous Japanese devs to make exclusive IP for you, to sell in the west. If the japanese gamers want it let em import it. Not like there will ever be enough of them to make it worthwhile selling there to begin with.
They already tried that with the 360. They made very little headway.
because those games came late to the party . Only the ps2 was truly successful in japan without anything good to play in its first months , and that was because it was the first cheap DVD player .
Agreed, Xbox needs Japanese games not Japanese costumers,
Because you never know what will hapepen. Th Xbox one could have sold like crazy there, you just never know
"The Xbox one could have sold like crazy there, you just never know" I'm sure everyone knew before it launched there that it wouldn't sell like crazy.
You just won the "most delusional comment ever" award.
It would help if they had more exclusive games geared towards that audience, but kudos to them for not withdrawing as of yet. It's a tough crowd for consoles, even for PS4 at this point. I think it would be a strong move to invest into a large-scale RPG. They could easily hire the talent and join the ranks of Sony and Square Enix in their noble efforts to revive the JRPG on consoles. Mistwalker, anyone? Does anyone know if MS is attending TGS this year?
Seems strange for any company to just pull out of a region? "We don't support That country." < probably not a good way to do business.
@ DigitalRaptor . They did exactly that with 360 and it did nothing but provide jobs for those studios . Cause even if one product does not fair well, they're still a big corporation who sale other products.dissing them due to one product not being successful is no reason to hurt the sale of the others .
Brand Presence is better than none at all. All it takes is for one generation of Xbox to really hit with the consumer. It wasn't that long ago Japanese cars were barely a thing in the USA.
I said it from the get go...Japanese will never support an American company. They need to pull the Xbox One off the shelves in Japan its a waste of time an effort.
@Spid3r6 "Japanese will never support an American company." Now that's just racist. http://cdn1.tnwcdn.com/wp-c... https://9to5mac.files.wordp... http://www.globosapiens.net... Seems like there are plenty of American firms that do just fine in Japan. Just because they don't like Xbox doesn't mean they hate America. http://i.kinja-img.com/gawk...
Support is strong because of national pride...Does not mean I am racist. I don't choose because of brands because of country origin but I have hunch that Japan does!! Oh and BTW do you know how they really hate more then the american products, South Korean! http://www.phonearena.com/n... http://www.digitaltrends.co...
@MasterCornholio Apple, McDonalds and coca cola are american pop culture items. Apples are popular with celebs all over the world, which makes them cool to consumers. this includes japanese celebs. Japanese teens like alot of western pop culture things and seeing ipods and iphones in the hands of your fave celebs is going to sell that product. They have a huge sneaker culture over there too..inspired by stateside sneaker culture, often getting their own special edition air jordans...these things are part of pop culture in a way videogame consoles are not. So bringing up apple, and mcDonalds doesnt really tell the whole picture. Generally this is how japanese see americans. And their products that dont get endorsed by japanese celebs. or very popular wester celebs: https://www.youtube.com/wat... If you ever been there...trust me you would know this type of perception is quite popular. Its kind of ironic though aint it? here on N4G, people are so quick to label others "dudebro" but in japan...we are all dudebros and gaijins anyway. I personally dont feel like kissing the ass of people who think like that, or even defending their reasons for not buying xbox. You would have to go to japan to understand certain things im saying here. Their proud patriotism, leads unitentionally to prejudice. Just look at the uproar when miss japan was announced...they didnt think she was "pure" enough because she is mixed race, even though she has lived in japan her whole life. YOU are about as welcome, there as the xbox. You are a gaijin! lol... and they dont mind telling you about it. NOTHING MS could do would win them over. they could buy square, capcom and sega (and lets face it they can afford to buy all three..rebrand the xbox as a DC2..and japan would just hate them even more. Only in japan would that happen. Meanwhile, we westerners openly welcome japanese games, consoles and devs..yet japanese gamers...they think western games are just dumb shooters and soulless RPGs. They think western gamers are wannabes that pree and beg after their culture. Big-finger + 0m ago "What's your excuse that it is selling bad in Germany and Spain then? Are the Germans and Spanish xenophobic as well?" There is no excuse there. MS just needs to step things up in those regions. But japan is unique. What is popular in europe is popular in europe, whether we are talking germany, spain or the uk..or any other EU country.The charts look familiar and are even comparable to the US charts interms of what is popular You are sidestepping the issue of a culture and how that shapes ones taste and perceptions of other cultures. You simply dont get it.
@Flex "YOU are about as welcome, there as the xbox." Nope I loved 18 years in Asia and I never had a problem with them. Your the only one whose being racist here. Funny because I can pull up a ton of examples of people being racist here against all sorts of cultures.
"Your the only one whose being racist here. Funny because I can pull up a ton of examples of people being racist here against all sorts of cultures." What? dude I KNOW what REAL racism is first hand so dont insult me. Have you ever seen BNP members swing it out with muslims because they think every one of them is a terrorist, on your doorstep? ever seen somalis and turks swinging at eachother with knives because, northern africans tend to look down on "sub saharans? Ever been called the N word because of the colour of your skin? turned down for a job interview because your name doesnt sound european? I doubt it, so dont get on your high horse with me. Calling out a nation for its nationalistic pride that drives it to the point of coming up with tags for outsiders is...pretty damn racist I am not racist for pointing that out. Shows how much you know about real world issues. stick to gaming culture. its more your speed. You just proved you dont know what racism is.
National pride is a thing , but when you're a challenger in the frickin' birth place of most home consoles , you dont launch with fps and western games ... No amount of exclusive novels and jrpgs released a year later is going to change the tides afterward
Double Post. Sorry :(
They have too. Japan is a huge gaming industry. Even if your low on the list, or lower than low. To leave the region, skyrocket Sony around the world. Why, because everything effects the stock market. Plus one your old, you may never be able to get it back.
Because good luck getting some japanese studios to release their titles , if you dont have a local presence , however small it might be
I think MS is smart enough to know they won't do well in Japan...hell, console gaming in general is dead in Japan...but I think MS putting X1 in Japan is more a hand out to Japanese Devs, to try and help persuade Japanese Devs to make games for X1...so I get it...but I'm also conviced MS doesn't have ANY expectation to "win" in Japan.
As for convincing Japanease devs to release games on the system. Well Microsoft isnt doing a very good job. Japanease developers won't make games for the system unless Microsoft funds them. If people want Japanease games the Wii U and PS4 are you best options. Heck I'll add handhelds as well.
No matter how small of a market Xbox One has in Japan, it's still a vote of no confidence that'd alienate Japanese developers like Platinum if Microsoft pulled the plug on Japanese Xbox sales entirely. More PR relations than actual cash flow now, but it's sad nonetheless.
Making Japanese exclusive games for Xbox 360 last gem was a financial issue last gen for many publishers. They had to release these games on the more successful PS3 to break even and make more profit. I doubt they'd be willing to go through that again for Microsoft's sakes for a platform that's doing even worse than its predecessor.
Yeah I agree, they should just focus on acquiring Japanese talents. Invest in some new Japanese studios..
People will accept the fact that Tupac is dead before the Xbox does well in Japan. They need to move on. The Japanese have practically made it clear that they would rather die than touch an Xbox controller.
Xbox has always been a very niche system in Japan. The X360 has some hardcore cred amongst some gamers, but nowhere near enough to be commercially successful. Coupled with the console market bottoming out in favour of mobile gaming, MS are probably right to ignore the region and let a die-hard few import if they really want one.
Why bother? Population: 127 million GDP per capita: $36 899 (2014, USD) Because of the huge amount of potential customers. That's why.
Given the downswing in the JP console market, I'm not sure that's entirely true.
everyone should have the chance to play gears thats why
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