Michael Briers of PlayStation LifeStyle takes a step back from the E3 2015 excitement and asks how Sony can possibly compete with Microsoft this holiday season.
Sony had one heck of an E3 show, but yeah, MS definitely has them beat this year for the holidays.
What I don't understand is people saying that MS won 2015 because they have exclusive games coming this fall. People forget that Sony has had more games through the year, and there are still exclusives coming (but some people htink that, because you are not holding a gun and shooting everything in the screen, those games are not true exclusives)
What multiplayer exclusives that you are still playing?
"Exclusive games" is too general of a term, "big title" exclusive is what everyone is making a "big" deal out of. That's the point your missing and why you waste away trying to disapprove of this fact. Point is after E3 XOne owners WILL be playing the games they bought an XOne for. That's why you buy a console for, ..games! Is it not? Or do you have an excuse why big titles games don't matter anymore.
@Thich No idea what you were trying to ask. Take a deep breath, relax and try again. @Kal0psia I never said that "big titles" don't matter. What I said is that both consoles have exclusive games for the rest of the year, but people dis on Sony exclusives because they are not the typical dudebro games.
Here comes that "holiday season" argument again. Why doesn't the rest of the year matters? Why doesn't anything other than a shooter or racer matters? Ok, they are releasing games from all 3 of their big franchises this year along with Tomb Raider but what will happen after that? People wont be getting Forza 7 and Halo 6 anytime soon. Those titles take years to develop. Phantom dust has no active developer so that leaves just Gears 4, Scalebound and Quantum break for next year. Moreover, Tomb Raider is a timed exclusive and Gears of War is a remaster so they actually have only 2 true exclusives releasing in 2015. On the other hand, Sony will be releasing Star Ocean 5, Uncharted 4, Gran Turismo 7, RAtchet and Clank, The Last Guardian, Horizon: Zero Dawn and many other games in 2016. The 2015 PS4 exclusive list has already been posted above my post which is bigger adn more diverse than the Xbox One exclusive lineup. It is just that some fire their ammo early and run out of it too soon while others hold on to it and make it last longer. Simple as that. The places will be reversed next year and then exclusives will not matter once again or will only matter if they have a metacritic average of 9. :-/ @Kal0psia I agree we buy consoles for games. So is anything other than a shooter or racer not a game? Or one cannot enjoy a game unless it is a "big" AAA title? It is only the Xbox crowd that places such high value on "AAA" shooters and racers. Playstation fans play much more diverse genres of games including puzzlers, platformers, JRPGs, SRPG, hack & slash, fighting, adventure, MMORPG and several others. They do not depend on just shooters and racers for enjoyment.
PlayStation retail exclusives for 2015: Bloodborne The Order 1886 Guilty Gear Xrd MLB 2015 God of War Remaster Until Dawn Tearaway Unfolded Dragon Quest Heroes Uncharted: The Nathan Drake Collection Persona 5 Godzilla Journey: Collectors Edition The Talos Principle Disgaea 5 Hot Shots Golf Xbox retail exclusives for 2015: Screamride Gears of War Ultimate Edition Forza 6 Rare Collection Rise of the Tomb Raider Halo 5 Let me know if I have missed any.
@Heavy Even that term is irrelevant now, Uncharted is a "dudebro game" because I know dudes and bros that play it. ;D There really isn't any dissing, it's just gamers are talking more about what Microsoft is offering in comparison to Sony this year and it's obvious fact when you have titles like Halo 5 and Tomb Raider those are titles that actually drive gamers to buy a console for. If Uncharted was launching this year everyone will be happy and even. Sony has a good year so far it's just they're not going to end as good as they started. My honest opinion gamers should enjoy their consoles and enjoy the games they bought it for. @Griever I really don't care what genre it is, and I wasn't genre specific. Gamers buy the games they enjoy and I wouldn't be surprsied if Halo 5 sells millions in the first few weeks, point is gamers game. It's such an irrelevant point whether one group enjoy diversity while another doesn't, in my honest opinion this is the golden age of gaming and differnt types of games are on all platforms. It's just the mainstay of games for either platform and why gamers choose it is different. That in itself is diversity. So game on buddy.
Not all Xbox gamers just care about shooters. That's just retarded. "What I don't understand is people saying that MS won 2015 because they have exclusive games coming this fall." They say that MS wins FALL 2015, but you Sony fanboys say:"MS couldn't have won 2015, Sony had games earlier this year!" I don't see how anyone (without being a Sony fanboy of course) could say that Sony has a better lineup this fall. Just no. Hmm, Sony won this year too? Hmm I wonder who will win next year, and the year after that, and the year after that again. Sony wins every year because Sony. 2015-2xxx, Sony wins.
What part of Holiday 2015 are you not getting. You guys keep saying you have 2016 and beyond sewed up yet Crackdown, Phantom Dust, Quantum Break, Scalebound, Gears 4, etc all have a chance to impress next yr as well. I think you Sony punies have things mixed up and games wise 2016 is not looking like a runaway for you either!
There is no shortage of games on PS4 and with all the promotional deals they're going to have with third parties it will keep up just fine. I walk into Best Buy and there is Battlefront marketing everywhere, just wait till they put out their COD marketing as well (not praising this game but it will sell Sony's consoles), some need to remember mom's and dad's don't read N4G so they completely miss the wonderful comment sections about how Sony is doomed. Also apparently people missed the articles with a list of 50 or so exclusive's still to come this year. Sony has plenty of AAA third party support (the most). Also, PS4 has been out selling X1 so far this year(ya X1 won a month I think) so I don't know how MS will actually "win anything". It's all just a bunch of die hard Xboys spreading crap, hoping Sony doesn't sell anymore so their boxes will catch up in sales so they can enjoy their system more. Well guys... Just get a PS4 already you know you want too.
It will be almost one full year since Xbox One's last major exclusive when those games release this holiday. That's pathetic and shouldn't be praised. And It's really funny that people would rather MS throw all their exclusive at the holidays flooded quality third party games rather than spread them throughout year all just for a temp sales boost. Meanwhile Sony supports the PS4 throughout the entire year. MS told the media that only the holidays matter, yet they continue to lose 2 to 1 worldwide. Also the title should be changed to "Microsoft is Primed to Trump Sony IN THE US Come Holiday Season Despite E3 2015 Success" because they didn't win last year worldwide and they won't win this year. The only thing they'll likely win is NPD and that's just one of the territories where they're currently losing.
Sony has exclusives this holiday, but they aren't the big budget exclusives that will move systems and sell in the millions. Uncharted: Drakes Collection is really the only game I see selling over 3 million units this holiday. Persona 5 will be 2nd with Until Dawn following a distant 3rd. I don't expect Tear Away to do much. It's more of a niche game. With XB1's lineup games like Halo 5, Tomb Raider, Gears of War UE, Forza 6, Rare Replay and Fable Legends, I expect all of these games will sell over 1 million during the holidays. With Halo 5, Forza 6 and Tomb Raider bundles, systems should fly off the shelves. Not sure what deals Microsoft has with Fallout 4. Could there be a Fallout 4 bundle as well?
most important thing for holiday season is price, MS will take the loss and will make a new big price cut (thinking $299) and flood the market, but things will go back to normal afterwards, same as last year.
Griever + 3h ago "Here comes that "holiday season" argument again. Why doesn't the rest of the year matters?" You say this like xbox owners havent had choices. Neverwinter, ori, nero have been entertaining games, to say the least.Neverwinter, FH2 and MCC alone will devour a gamers time in ways multiple playthroughs of bloodborne and the order cant hope to match. Most xbox gamers are still playing these games because the end is far from insight on those games. especially with multiplayer modes. @Heavy "but people dis on Sony exclusives because they are not the typical dudebro games." I find it hilarious that you would say this at a time when the games sony promotes the most are "dudebro shooters" as you call them. They wanted destiny DLC deals because it was from the makers of halo. they wanted starwars because hey...battlefront is a known online shooter and its starwars. And of course, that most "dudebro" of all shooters is now being marketed front and center by the company you say is not all about "dudebro" shooters. What you are saying and what sony are doing are two different things. PS4 is an X360 in new clothes. No wonder I like it.lol. xbox one is something else altogether. Its been an interesting role reversal this gen.
I don't understand it either. And the exclusives they're showing seem to be mostly extending existing franchises. Sony actually has quite a few new IPs coming out that seems more appealing than yet another halo game.
@1.1.5 Those lists are a prime example of why the "quality over quantity" argument exists. A better/honest list would look like this: PlayStation exclusives for 2015: Bloodborne The Order: 1886 MLB 2015 God of War III - Remaster Uncharted: The Nathan Drake Collection Persona 5 Xbox exclusives for 2015: Gears of War Ultimate Edition Forza Motorsport 6 Rare Collection Rise of the Tomb Raider Halo 5: Guardians To put a different way: PS4: Dark Action (new IP, reviewed wonderful) Cinematic TPS (new IP, reviewed terribly) Yearly Sports Title (MLB licensed) Remaster (blockbuster franchise) Remaster (blockbuster franchise, 3-game collection) JRPG (respected franchise, niche/passionate fanbase) XO: Remaster (blockbuster franchise) Racing Sim (respected franchise, highly anticipated) Remaster (iconic/fan-favorite franchises, 30-game collection) Action Adventure (respected franchise, highly anticipated) FPS (blockbuster franchise, highly anticipated)
Didn't they outsell Sony last Holiday season? Think MS, the Xbox brand, has repeatedly done well during the holidays because of promotions, but they've only lost ground in between.
You can't expect it to take over if the only time it's putting up battle is in the last three months of the year. Plus it's not like Sony slouched the past holidays. The system still sells at an incredible rate regardless of the lack of promotion or "first party content".
@dragonfly, hahaha..yeah all third party games available on xbox one except for uncharted.
No. Sony outsold Microsoft last holiday season. The only place that they won was the states and maybe GB if I'm not mistaken.
@BakPAin, The best third party experience this holiday will be on PS4, both quality and content wise. The only reason to choose X1 this holiday is if you like their exclusives and you can deal with inferior multiplats that struggle to reach 1080p and performs at a lower level than the PS4 versions.
Last holiday in the US only. Sony still sold the most overall during the holidays.
Wasn't it just November and only within the US? Hardly would call that a victory either if they've only outsold one month out of the time the new consoles have existed.
Again, Perspective.... whats a dudebro game though, a COD black ops game, thats really important all of a sudden to PS gamers?? It appears PS gamers hold JRPG's in high regard, so what should we call those gamers? Is it not ok for people to like FPS????
lol on this site and in these articles have yet to see a abundance of PS gamer say they like COD now all of the sudden and actually every time someone like you post that you get a list of people saying they don't care. it's a lie you people continue to perpetuate because you're not required to provide any type of insurmountable proof within the community. It's okay to like those games of course it is but the way i see it happening is it's not okay to like the other games according to xbox faithful and they aren't even counted or acknowledged just like the first 9 months of the year.
Most of my friends are buying xbox one even if they like PS4 more, xbone is just so much cheaper it's 100 euros less than PS4 sometimes even cheaper here where I live, and I can't blame them xbox has some really crazy good deals going on, PS4 is going to have problems if they don't lower the price fast
It's been that way for a while now, and honestly, your friends aren't indicative of general market trends. Same arguments about the holiday line up were made last year, and it didn't make that much of a difference, except for one month in the US.
these holidays will be legendary, although this time Nintendo will be left out completely. OT: I want to play tales of zestiria/persona 5 more than any halo/forza.
Everyone claiming games, but seems like all their time is spent on this website rather than playing all those games released.
I think both companies did a great job but Ill have to give mighty props to MS this time around. Sony did great doing their usual showings of 1st and 3rd party titles but MS took things over the edge with major exclusive announcements and backwards compatibility. Its a great year for gaming on both accounts :)
Too bad everyone can't see it that way. I'm an Xbox dude and I don't care if MS finishes this generation in 2nd aslong as they deliever with the content and make my purchase worth it and the same thing goes for Sony. When I buy my ps4 it better be worth it just like it was when I bought my ps3 to play Infamous, Uncharted, TLoU, and a couple other titles because I plan on doing the same thing this generation.
Maybe video game years only have 3 months, October, November, and December.
I don't even like Halo or Forza?! These "Sony won E3, but Xb will win 2015" are getting really stupid. Personally, I want to play Tearaway Unfolded more than any Halo game or any racing game. The Tomorrow Children looks excellent to, and I just ordered a Fallout 4 PipBoy for my PS4!
And some of us don't care for FF7, Shenmue III or last guardian... what's your point? Your point of view has to be deemed just as stupid as the ones you say are stupid. To be fair. And congrats on being excited for your particular system of choice.
@SmokingMonkey You're right it's stupid, Sony didn't win E3 unless your into vaporware.
And we should care why?
You guys are surprised to find opinions in the posts? Well let me welcome you to the internet. In places like this you can actually post your opinions!.../s Seriously, this is like the 5th or 6th article like this, and just like the "writer" I have on opinion as to why I (emphasis on the 'I') don't believe MS will own fall 2015.
I'll just leave this here... http://www.urbandictionary.... Please notice who they mention IN the definition.
To be fair, we've seen an equal if not greater number of articles on here regarding Sony winning E3 hands down in those particular writer's opinions
@Kingdomcome247 I can agree to that, and IMO MS did a great job at this E3. Cuphead looks so good! I though Gigantic looked good too. BC is nice ,but PERSONALLY, I was more impressed with Sony's new IP's like Horizon and Dreams. Curtis92 mentioned how some of us don't care for FF7r, TLG and Shenmue, and that is totally fair. But I didn't see anything from MS that even came close to Horizon and Dreams, so it seems like FUD to me to see even an equal amount of articles.
Sony bet on releasing Order & Bloodborne early in the yr. We'll find out in a few months who had the better game plan
The better game plan for America or world wide?
Depends on who has the highest sales during the whole year. I'm guessing it's going to be Sony.
Those 3 months sell more game consoles then all of the other 9 months combined. You do realize that right? That's why it's a big deal. Every company wants to have huge sales in these 3 months because it's when millions and millions of casual shoppers spend the most money.
Casuals will buy COD, Star wars BF and MGS which all have more content on the PS4 and will sell PS4's. It's not only 1st party games that sell consoles. Also we heard this last year and yes they won 2 months in the U.S., but, the U.S. doesn't equal worldwide sales.
@Chevalier Don't think I said anything about which consoles. Didn't say anything about worldwide sales either. I said those 3 months make up the biggest sales when selling games consoles and software. Which is true. Also CoD, Star Wars BF and MGS will sell XB1 as well. You really think XB1 owners won't buy those games too? XB1 will also have 3rd party games with bonus content in them too. Rainbow 6 Siege comes with both Rainbow 6 Vegas 1 & 2 games. Fallout 4 will come with Fallout 3 on the XB1 and mod content. So your point is pretty much mute.
Except Sony has proven then can sell year round. Remember last September when they sold over 500,000 units during Destiny launch? I have yet to see any 3rd party game push Xbox One sales. Plus Sony outsells Xbone and Nintendo year round not just during 2 months where Xbone wins in NA.
I think Sony has marketed their 2015 games enough. Until Dawn, Rapture, Tearaway and others are very good alongside Uncharted. I really think Sony will cut the PS4's price, to $299 or $349, either for MGSV on 9/1 or for Paris Games Week on 10/28. That's around Halo 5's release. Imagine Sony announces a PS4 price cut October 9th, the day Uncharted Collection comes out? It will take away thunder from Halo 5. With COD/Battlefront marketing, I don't think Oct/Nov/Dec will be easy commercial wins for Xbox like many think, especially if Sony drop all the way to $299. Plus, PSX could boost sales if they promote early 2016 games right, like an Uncharted 4 release date or Bloodborne DLC, etc and No Man's Sky.
I doubt they will slash $100 off the ps4, $50 is more like it. $349 for 500GB $400 for 1TB
Oh Crystal Ball! Crystal ball.
Cant dispute that MS has the big hitters.
The only real big hit M$ has is Halo 5
Forza 6, Rare Replay, Gears Ultimate, Rise of. Although 2 of them are collection and remaster, they are still big hitlers for MS!
These articles are getting out of hand.
The new forza looks like a cartoon , more halo , trump Sony? Please , Sony didn't even bring all the force at e3 , still loads not seen from very very good production teams.
http://oyster.ignimgs.com/w... http://cdn4.dualshockers.co... http://static.trueachieveme... Cartoon? I'm not sure why I'm responding to you, knowing that you're a troll, but call Forza whatever you want, but I'm pretty sure that you alone would call it, "cartoony", looking.
Lol. Well said.
The back-compatibility is a big deal for converting some 360 hold-outs, but honestly, Playstation probably got thousands of pre-orders from the "Play Final Fantasy VII Remake First on PS4" shout-out alone.
Let's be honest here.ff7 was a good reveal, but this is coming in 2017 at the earliest. Likely to coincide with the 20 yr aniversary. Who would preorder a console that's been out and can be found in stores...two years in advance?
So when xb1 came out ppl didn't buy it anticipating Halo 5 or new gears a couple years down the road?
Maybe some did.But I bet they didn't preorder a X1 for this fall back in 2013.
Surprisingly, the biggest jump in pre-orders was seen in Forza 6 pre-orders. The most pre-ordered game post E3 has ben Rare replay.
Well to be fair, those xbox games have closer release dates. FF7, TLG, Shenmue 3 are 2016-2017, of course you're going to get less pre-orders for games that are releasing later.
Wasn't that UK only? And only amazon?
Interesting observation, and I have to agree. Microsoft has 2015 in the bag. 2016 on the other hand? We'll have to see, but Sony seems to be setting up for some epic stuff.
2015 in the bag which part the first 9 months or the last 3 and how many months does 2015 consist of?
What? Sony already has 2015 in the bag... Are you high? Even if Microsoft outsells Sony every single holiday month, Sony will still have sold more. These topics really aren't debatable. There's numbers to back this stuff up. Sony outsold Microsoft like crazy this year... That can't be changed... It already happened Sony also won e3 easily with its epic announcements However, Microsoft will definitely win this holiday season, as it always does It saves it's exclusives for this time and it is cheaper and easier to buy as a gift You can debate me on the e3 part, but the rest is proven by numbers Sony wins the years Microsoft wins the holidays Been that way for years now
Selling a few more consoles in 1 country for 2 month doesn't compare to selling twice as many console worldwide for the entire year