Vicious Cycle's Eric Peterson suspects that high end PCs have more to gain from DirectX 12.
Umm ... is this even news. You don't even need to any education or special knowledge to know this. PC gains will be larger than console. No question, never was.
Less about news more about bait. Smdh
Well Xb one is a console. One would expect its already very well optimized as they code to the metal from get go. DX 12 doing anything much for XB1 is just hype. Just like using MS servers to improve performance was hype. Nothings going to materialize out of this. On the PC yes we should see good improvements. Since PC uses APIs to communicate which should see improvement with DX12.
I guess on to some other fairytale hope of xbox one surpassing the ps4 in performance. Cloud rhetoric failed, DX12 chat is out so what is next? Fanatics are silly
DX 12 is a marketing stunt, nothing less nothing more.
-Even MS themselves said it wont be dramatic on X1. -MS engineers specifically said DX12 is giving what consoles have to PC. They called DX12 "console-level efficiency on PC" http://blogs.msdn.com/b/dir... Forget about closing/reducing any gaps. And lets not make a big deal about minor performance boost that any regular console usually get over its life cycle. We have -Move engine secret sauce -Kinect power unlock secret sauce -Cloud sauce of course. -March SDK some power optimization unlock secret sauce. -Other regular SDK regular-improvement that is somehow super secret sauces. -DX12 secret sauce that MS themselves said wasn't secret sauce. After all the secret sauces, gap isnt closing. Looking at games like Project Cars, it is getting wider.
@Cindy-rella- Funny that you would call out fanaticism in another person whenever 75% of your comments consist of bashing other consoles. The remaining 25% of your comments can be found in sales articles. At least you are consistent. This whole endless cycle is becoming tiresome. I love games. I own all current gen systems aside, from the WiiU, which I want to eventually get. People like you care more about belittling the other systems than you do enjoying your own. It's sad. We all love games here (I think), yet 90% of our energy is wasted arguing. We're nearing two years in on this gen. Believe me when I say that the usual suspects on both sides have already sufficiently made their opinions crystal clear by now. Move on, or you'll look up one day to see that this gen passed you by.
Well the headline Gamingbolt used is a bit stoo-pid but the content is fair hearing this news from another source.
Gaming bolt will report anything and everything... Smh
Why not every single article from gamingbolt gets approved no matter ow shitty it is while other better articles never get to be approved this N4G get over it
Yeah, I'm a little shocked a developer is this late to the game. Phil's been saying this since DX12 was announced.
We are fresh off of e3, where there is so much amazing content to write about, and this is what comes... Interesting...
Hasn't stopped a lot of fans from thinking massive gains are incoming, has it?
The only fans that keep saying massive gains are the ones that don't have an Xbox. Phil has been very clear the gains will not be massive. The problem we are running into is some fans claim not massive and no gain are the same thing. There will be gains, but to what extent we do not know. The only thing we know for sure is they are not massive. The main difference between the PS4 and Xbox is not performance like many want to make it. The difference is in features.
Enough with this site. WTF/no
Thats interesting, i figured it would be a greater gain on the consoles since the hardware is set in stone for consoles. PCs there are tons of different hardware combinations so i'd imagine the gains would be from very little to a lot. Then again im not a software/hardware engineer haha
GamingBolt's MO: -Pick proven clickbait/flamebait topic -Get developer for some indie/obscure studio to agree to interview -Ask developer for input on said clickbait topic, even if it has little bearing on their specific background or games Why hasn't GamingBolt been banned from N4G yet? Why? WHY?! HHG was banned for similar hackery, but he was at least entertaining at times.
Yea wtf. Tired of these effing articles. Can we get back to the GAMES people?!
The sun will probably rise at some point where you live.
Yet you approved the article...
He want a "funny" bubble.
Lol take a lap hennesy. FITgamer got you!!
@akutz, LMAO! Absolutely; "take a lap"! Lol.
Dev repeats same thing that Microsoft has stated....brought to you by Gamingbolt
Wow is this serious? We all know this, it's hardly 'news' smh
ppl should just accept that xbone is a 900p machine, it's never gonna be as powerful as ps4. hey, who actually cares anyway... i'm more interested in GAMING!!
lets admits that 900p resolution difference is minimal or hard to defend when the other system is 50% more powerful. 2nd the PS4 Power wise is closer to a pc. But visually in reality it's closer to a X1. some people can't accept the reality of this. I believe Devs and others alike rinse and repeat this to lower our expectations in-case there is any backlash when games still perform at 900p while performing 1080p on other consoles.
ps4 power wise is closer to a pc? Wtf does that even mean? you do know PCs are not one set spec right? This makes no sense if you trying to say ps4 is a high end PC, it's not.
I doubt the PS4 is 50% more powerful, it's got a better GPU yet weaker CPU. The PS4 main advantage over the XB1 is the high amount of ROPs ;it's GPU has 32 instead of 16. The XB1 CPU 1.75 ghz with 48ops instead of 16 ops running at 1.6ghz. PCs vary in power considerably some are weaker than iPhone 6s others are as powerful as 8+ PS4s put together. The XB1 and PS4 are comparable to most midrange PCs.
@Gamer777 1080p has almost 50% more pixels than 900p so basically one could say PS4 is almost 50% faster/powerful/stronger which ever word suits it better.
gamer777 is citing mrXmedia i assume. The PS4 maximum clock frequency is 2.75ghz... read product specification of link http://www.dualshockers.com...
"gamer777 is citing mrXmedia" "The PS4 maximum clock frequency is 2.75ghz" I think you're closer to that groups mentality than you'd care know... please tell me what is that maximum clock frequency referring to? I mean honestly, why comment if you genuinely have no clue about hardware? I'll give you a hint, it's not the CPU which gamer777 was talking about. The others stating '50% more powerful', do you even realise that's the GPU being referenced? A single component ≠ overall system power. Numbers are thrown out, misinterepreted, and forever regurgitated, misinforming the next generation of readers. PS4 is the more powerful console overall, of that there is no doubt, but these arbitrary numbers are misleading, and used intentionally so... the difference fluctuates from game to game. Still, will get loads of disagrees for stating a simple truth that does not fit into their preconceived notions.
"2nd the PS4 Power wise is closer to a pc. But visually in reality it's closer to a X1. some people can't accept the reality of this. " Absolute nonsense. PS4- 1.84 tflops Xbone- 1.31 tflops GTX 960 ($179)- 2.7 tflops GTX 970 ($299)- 4.2 tflops GTX 980 ($450)- 5.3 tflops GTX 980ti ($599)- 6.5 tflops Add 20% more flops by simple overclocking. And this doesn't even factor in CPU performance. Mobile AMD vs Intel Desktop.... lol. @Gamer- PS4 and Xbone CPU's are closer to Intel's latest entry level Desktop CPU's. You'd have to get an i3 processor to get down to console performance. Don't forget... i5 is mid-range, i7 is high-end, and i7-2011 is "i have more money than i know what to do with" enthusiast-level. And FYI, there are no modern Desktop PC processors weaker than an iPhone 6. Even the outdated Intel Pentium D "smithfield" dual-core 2.8ghz CPU sold at newegg for $16.99 is faster than an iPhone 6 and it's basically a 10 year old chip. @CapraDemon- I'm lost for words. Did you even read that FCC certification document? 2.75ghz is the frequency of the PS4's Wifi chip. /facepalm edit\ And since someone is going to make the stupid retort "PS4 looks just as good as PC...", they clearly haven't seen what a PC only game with AAA funding looks like. This is from an alpha build in crappy resolution (720p Xbone style) and lovely youtube compression, and it still looks better than anything on console. https://youtu.be/Cu0qFoY2zC...
hey didnt Konami announce MGS5 is 1080p 60fps on Xbox One.. oh wait didnt we just see Forza 6 1080p 60fps and everything all the ps fanboys said it lacked and more! so much for just a 900p.. i gotta say out of the fanboys PS are the worse but thats fine they do outnumber everyone, but damn cant gamers just enjoy a good discussion?
That was a rumor, Kojima nor Konami haven't announced/confirmed this.
I think it's fair to say it bad on both sides
Well the only true 1080p 60fps first party AAA exclusive is forza so yeah looks like it's just as powerful dude lol
You're a funny little guy. Don't change.
What about the major downgrade forza 5 got to get 1080p 60fps.
Forza 5 isn't even demamding
Both systems have their merits. Let's all be honest. The best case unicorn-scenario most of us dream about is a collaboration where Sony makes the hardware and Microsoft handles the UI and social aspects.
There isn't a single DX12 game in 2015 which totally sucks.
Fable Legends supposedly will use DX12 if I'm not mistaking and it will release in 2015.
yes but it will be ported not built from the ground up
how does a person that gets his info right from the developers themselves gets a disagree. Anyway great job as always man. XBOX gaming is strong. Great line up this yr and next.
Even spencer stated this not too long ago.
No sh!t Detective Holmes. We're just looking for improvements. Not for it to be on par with a PC.
I'm sure DX12 will make Xbox one better than ps4 in anything
Any improvement is a welcomed improvement
That's the most reasonable comment on this article..
Agreed. There will be improvements. Gotta wait for it to be released on Pc and XB1. Then we have to wait for developers to actually use it for us to see what kind of improvements will happen. I'm interested in how easy it will be to port PC games to XB1 since they both will be using the same O/S and API in the future. Fun times are coming.
Isn't this what most developers told us in the first place? Anyways an improvement is an improvement. However don't expect any miracles for any software update on consoles.
Why is it all these devs , from games like kingdom of Kelflings, or Pac-Man HD remix , are the ones that comment on dx-12 benefits on xbox1? Gimme some high tier devs input.
Microsoft have said it themselves several times now. Is that not high enough for you?
Now gamingbolt's just repeating themselves...
What year is this??
Ok...I am good with not talking about DX12 until its out. Lets table all the talk and speculation until its out.
No shit.. I suspect a faster CPU would increase performance too.. Where's my article? Lol
Even if Phil said something like this in the past Xbox fanboys are making it seem it's going to be a big boost of help to the Xbox.
No it's the PS4 12 year old that keep bringing it up to remind X1 owners it isn't going to be huge. You guys seem awful threatened and are always super defensive about you 1080p box. Actually it will make a huge difference, and that's in the ease to port games which saves money and that helps developers.
Are people that stupid that they need to be told this??
DX12 isn't a 1080p fixer. Face it already fanboys
Gamingbolt sure loves articles about DX12 and Xbox One. Guess it gets the clicks.
"Suspect's"????? ? The article author misspelt "Know's" ;)
Why is it that non xbox fans are more interested in dx12 articles than actually xbox fans lol. Just look at the comments smh. We all know (well some) what dx12 will do can we move on now? I'm sick of the spam articles. It will help whether you haters like it or not but it won't be massive or on PC level, can we move on now?
"We all know (well some) what dx12 will do" Problem is now we don't. Its all smoke and mirrors at present. Once games start to release built from the ground up for dx12, only then will we know what its capable of. So basically all of these articles are a complete waste of time. Slow news day again.
"Suspects" lets just wait and see...